Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk

2017-05-06 Thread Ira Minor 
From: Ira Minor <ira.mi...@gmail.com>

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If you already have Windows 98 SE, you have DOS 7.1. I prefer it to FreeDOS
because of better documentation.

Ira

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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Dennis Fenton <dwf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Eric.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
>   Original Message
> From: Eric Auer
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 7:21 PM
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Reply To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
>
>
> A backup on the same disk but different partitions
> does not really help you if things go really wrong,
> but as you say, data loss would be no real problem
> for you... You should probably backup at least the
> DOS SCSI drivers though ;-) Jerome also mentioned
> the drivers as being the most backup worthy files.
>
> As Jerome wrote, you can simply install to C:\FDOS
> and leave most of the rest of C: and D: unharmed.
> Outside the FDOS directory, only the config files
> (autoexec / config / fdconfig / similar) and boot
> files (kernel, maybe command) in the root directory
> of C:\ and the boot sector should get overwritten,
> not much else to worry about UNLESS you format or
> fdisk... In which case everything would be gone.
>
> As you already have some DOS (here: MS DOS) on the
> PC, I agree with Jerome that "not booted update" is
> worth a trying for a "smoother" change to FreeDOS.
>
> I disagree about FreeDOS being "not ready yet" or
> "no advantage to MS DOS". Examples of advantages:
>
> Several drivers are smaller in RAM compared to MS
> DOS versions, FreeDOS supports FAT32 and LBA :-)
>
> In particular, this means that you can (if your
> BIOS is not too old) harddisks up to 2 TB size
> and partitions of many GB size without problems.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
> > My internal hard drive is partitioned into C and D drives. The entire
> > contents of the C:\DOS directory is backed up on drive D. I also have
> > an MS-DOS boot disk that includes my current autoexec.bat and
> > config.sys files.
>
>
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If
you already have Windows 98 SE, you have DOS 7.1. I prefer it to FreeDOS
because of better documentation.Iramailto:irami...@gmail.com; target="_blank">irami...@gmail.com
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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Dennis Fenton
mailto:dwf...@gmail.com;
target="_blank">dwf...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks Eric.

Sent-afrom-amy-aBlackBerry-a10-asmartphone-aon-athe-aBell-anetwork.
-a Original Message -a
From: Eric Auer
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 7:21 PM
To: mailto:freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net;>freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Reply To: Discussion and general questions about
FreeDOS.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk


A backup on the same disk but
different partitions
does not really help you if things go really wrong,
but as you say, data loss would be no real problem
for you... You should probably backup at least the
DOS SCSI drivers though ;-) Jerome also mentioned
the drivers as being the most backup worthy files.

As Jerome wrote, you can simply install to C:\FDOS
and leave most of the rest of C: and D: unharmed.
Outside the FDOS directory, only the config files
(autoexec / config / fdconfig / similar) and boot
files (kernel, maybe command) in the root directory
of C:\ and the boot sector should get overwritten,
not much else to worry about UNLESS you format or
fdisk... In which case everything would be gone.

As you already have some DOS (here: MS DOS) on the
PC, I agree with Jerome that not booted update is
worth a trying for a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and Turbo C 2.01

2017-05-06 Thread Ira Minor 
From: Ira Minor <ira.mi...@gmail.com>

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I run Turbo C 2.01 on FreeDOS 1.2 and MS-DOS 7.1 with no problems of any
kind.

Ira

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On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Abe Mishler <a...@mishlerlabs.com> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I would like to run Borland's Turbo C 2.01 (freely available now from [0])
> under FreeDOS. I can only get the IDE (TC.EXE) to run under MS-DOS (I have
> 6.22) which is somewhat disappointing given my goal of using FreeDOS.
>
> I did some searching regarding this issue and found this thread [1] and
> after attempting to replace the KERNEL.SYS with multiple others, none have
> fixed the problem.
>
> Anyways, I would expect FreeDOS 1.2 to come with an updated kernel that
> could do this kind of memory allocation out of the box. Perhaps that's not
> the issue.
>
> Is anybody else running the Turbo C 2.01 IDE under FreeDOS? I appreciate
> any help towards this end.
>
> [0] http://edn.embarcadero.com/article/20841
> [1] http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/HELP-Turbo-C-3-0-
> won-t-run-td6716.html
>
> Best,
> Abe
>
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I
run Turbo C 2.01 on FreeDOS 1.2 and MS-DOS 7.1 with no problems of any
kind.Iramailto:irami...@gmail.com; target="_blank">irami...@gmail.com
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On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Abe Mishler
mailto:a...@mishlerlabs.com;
target="_blank">a...@mishlerlabs.com wrote:Hey
everyone,I would like to run Borlands Turbo
C 2.01 (freely available now from [0]) under FreeDOS. I can only get the IDE
(TC.EXE) to run under MS-DOS (I have 6.22) which is somewhat disappointing
given my goal of using FreeDOS.-aI did some searching
regarding this issue and found this thread [1] and after attempting to replace
the KERNEL.SYS with multiple others, none have fixed the
problem.Anyways, I would expect FreeDOS 1.2 to come
with an updated kernel that could do this kind of memory allocation out of the
box. Perhaps thats not the issue.Is anybody else
running the Turbo C 2.01 IDE under FreeDOS? I appreciate any help towards this
end.[0]-ahttp://edn.embarcadero.com/article/20841; 
target="_blank">http://edn.embarcadero.com/article/20841[1]-ahttp://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/HELP-Turbo-C-3-0-won-t-run-td6716.html;
 
target="_blank">http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/HELP-Turbo-C-3-0-won-t-run-td6716.htmlBest,Abe--
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Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk

2017-03-24 Thread Ira Minor 
If you already have Windows 98 SE, you have DOS 7.1. I prefer it to FreeDOS
because of better documentation.

Ira

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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Dennis Fenton  wrote:

> Thanks Eric.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
>   Original Message
> From: Eric Auer
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 7:21 PM
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Reply To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
>
>
> A backup on the same disk but different partitions
> does not really help you if things go really wrong,
> but as you say, data loss would be no real problem
> for you... You should probably backup at least the
> DOS SCSI drivers though ;-) Jerome also mentioned
> the drivers as being the most backup worthy files.
>
> As Jerome wrote, you can simply install to C:\FDOS
> and leave most of the rest of C: and D: unharmed.
> Outside the FDOS directory, only the config files
> (autoexec / config / fdconfig / similar) and boot
> files (kernel, maybe command) in the root directory
> of C:\ and the boot sector should get overwritten,
> not much else to worry about UNLESS you format or
> fdisk... In which case everything would be gone.
>
> As you already have some DOS (here: MS DOS) on the
> PC, I agree with Jerome that "not booted update" is
> worth a trying for a "smoother" change to FreeDOS.
>
> I disagree about FreeDOS being "not ready yet" or
> "no advantage to MS DOS". Examples of advantages:
>
> Several drivers are smaller in RAM compared to MS
> DOS versions, FreeDOS supports FAT32 and LBA :-)
>
> In particular, this means that you can (if your
> BIOS is not too old) harddisks up to 2 TB size
> and partitions of many GB size without problems.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
> > My internal hard drive is partitioned into C and D drives. The entire
> > contents of the C:\DOS directory is backed up on drive D. I also have
> > an MS-DOS boot disk that includes my current autoexec.bat and
> > config.sys files.
>
>
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and Turbo C 2.01

2017-03-19 Thread Ira Minor 
I run Turbo C 2.01 on FreeDOS 1.2 and MS-DOS 7.1 with no problems of any
kind.

Ira

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On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Abe Mishler  wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I would like to run Borland's Turbo C 2.01 (freely available now from [0])
> under FreeDOS. I can only get the IDE (TC.EXE) to run under MS-DOS (I have
> 6.22) which is somewhat disappointing given my goal of using FreeDOS.
>
> I did some searching regarding this issue and found this thread [1] and
> after attempting to replace the KERNEL.SYS with multiple others, none have
> fixed the problem.
>
> Anyways, I would expect FreeDOS 1.2 to come with an updated kernel that
> could do this kind of memory allocation out of the box. Perhaps that's not
> the issue.
>
> Is anybody else running the Turbo C 2.01 IDE under FreeDOS? I appreciate
> any help towards this end.
>
> [0] http://edn.embarcadero.com/article/20841
> [1] http://freedos.10956.n7.nabble.com/HELP-Turbo-C-3-0-
> won-t-run-td6716.html
>
> Best,
> Abe
>
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1,2 runs very slow

2017-01-20 Thread Ira Minor 
The version of FDAPM is dated 11 Sep 2009 and does not have an ADV option.
I installed using the legacy CD.

Ira

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On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Eric Auer  wrote:

>
> Hi Ira,
>
> if FDAPM APMDOS slows down your FreeDOS (on which hardware?
> or in which environment, if not on bare physical hardware?)
> then you can try FDAPM ADV:REG instead, as APMDOS defaults
> to ADV:MAX which might be "overdoing" the energy savings in
> certain situations.
>
> Note that the SPEED settings (for ACPI throttling to N/8 of
> the normal speed) default to full speed, so unless you used
> them to explicitly reduce speed, there will be no throttle.
>
> As said, it would be interesting to know which hardware and
> which drivers you are using, to gather information about the
> situations in which APMDOS causes reduced performance.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
> PS: ADV options are used instead, not in addition to, APMDOS.
>
>
>
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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Speed

2017-01-20 Thread Ira Minor 
Thanks. I was using the fdconfig.sys and autoexec.bat that were generated
when I installed FreeDOS. At bootup I use the first choice. I am running
natively on a 486.
once I commented out LH FDAPM APMDOS in autoexec.bat and rebooted my
compiles run at full speed. FDAPM has a SPEED subcommand that changes the
speed in 1/8 steps. 8/8 is full speed, 4/8 is half speed. Games need to
slow the system down weather running natively or in a virtual machine.

Ira

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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1,2 runs very slow

2017-01-20 Thread Ira Minor 
I recently installed FreeDOS 1.2 in order to develop DOS apps using Turbo C
2.01. Small apps that compile almost instantly on DOS 7.1 take a very long
time using FreeDOS. I REMed out LH FDAPM APMDOS in autoexec.bat and my
compiles sped up and are now as fast as DOS 7.1. My guess is that the
default in FreeDOS is to run slow so games will run correctly. I think the
command to run full speed is FDAPM SPEED 8/8. Half speed is 4/8, the
slowest is 1/8 one eighth speed.

Ira

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Install

2017-01-10 Thread Ira Minor 
Try using the Legacy Installer CD rather than the Standard one.

Ira

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On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Lawrence Dionne 
wrote:

> I have an old Dell computer: Intel Celeron processor 700Mhz CPU 320MB RAM
>
> I thought it would make a nice machine for installin and runnin FreeDOS,
> but here is the issue:
>
> "freedos invalid opcode at 0FAE 1068 0046 0001 0002  0200  
> 0183  4200 0001"
>
> I boot the CD, choose "Install to hard drive" and after some text I get a
> constantly scrollin message.
>
> I was able to get it to install, at least partially by the following
> procedure:
>
> Start the CD then after choosing install to hard drive, I press F8 to
> choose the config.sys settings.
>
> Once I skip the "himemx.sys" item, it will install, at least partially.  I
> stops at the 4DOS packages.
>
> Does anyone know of a fix for this?  Is the computer too 'Old' for FreeDOS?
>
>
>
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