Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control

2020-02-16 Thread William Dudley 
There were one or more version control systems, at least one on DOS, and
I'll try to dig up a name. I do remember using RCS and SCCS, but they might
have been on later Unix based jobs. RCS was revision control system and
SCCS stood for source code control system.

Bill Dudley


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On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 1:27 PM Andy Stamp  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've starting working on a game and some small dual monitor (VGA + MDA)
> utilities but have run into issues where the code used to work and now it
> doesn't.  We use subversion, cvs, and git at work and I was wondering what
> options are available for dos-based systems besides dated zip files.
>
> Svn and git likely never had even a 386+ DOS version but I suspect that
> CVS must have.  What other DOS options were used prior to the source safe
> era?
>
> Thanks,
> --Andy
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Re: [Freedos-user] Arduino Port of FreeDOS

2018-01-12 Thread William Dudley 
The Uno wouldn't seem to have enough memory (flash OR RAM) to make this
worth while.

The Mega2560 has enough flash (ROM) for the OS and BIOS, but only 8K
of RAM, so I don't think it would be terribly useful either.

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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Ercan Ersoy 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm Ercan Ersoy (creator of DOS Coreutils and FreeDOS TUI Shell) and this
> e-mail address that I use general purpose.
>
> I have an idea.
>
> FreeDOS is a operating system that has some advantages. But, FreeDOS only
> runs PC platform. I think, FreeDOS can be ported other hardware such like
> Arduino.
>
> Arduino is a microcontroller development platform and it is a
> microcontroller. Arduino has some models. People usually use Arduino Uno
> and Arduino Mega2560. Also, Arduino is a open source. Arduino models uses
> AVR microcontroller or ARM microcontroller.
>
> I use orginal Arduino Uno, Arduino Uno clone and Arduino Mega2560 clone.
> These are good platforms.
>
> As we all know FreeDOS is written C language. FreeDOS can be ported 8 bit
> AVR microcontrollers and 32 bit ARM microcontrollers.
>
> For BIOS interrupts, we can write BIOS like bootloader for FreeDOS
>
>
> Thanks for interesting,
>
> Ercan
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

2017-05-06 Thread William Dudley 
From: William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com>

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Karen,

If you know how to get ssh2d386 to connect to a modern openssh, as on
Ubuntu 16.04,
please share the recipe with us!

Thanks,
Bill Dudley


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On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>
wrote:

> Well, if you have given up no point in my sharing.
> We use the same edition of Ubuntu, both with dreamhost who has my office,
> and here at shellworld.
> While the latter requires me to make use of a few ssh2021b options, the -g
> option  for example, I encounter no issues.
> I am going to guess that  things like machine speed, mine is a p3 with
> allot of memory, impacts your situation.
> nor, I would hope, your  location in the world.
> Sorry I did not notice your post before you abandoned  the effort.
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
>
>
>> Am 26.01.2017 um 18:19 schrieb Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>:
>>>
>>> As I am presently writing this e-mail using ssh2d386 from the ssh2dos
>>> package ssh2021b,  perhaps I can help you troubleshoot.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Karen!
>>
>> I am using the exact same program and version.
>>
>> for the record, I am not using freedos, but  the ms dos 7.10 package
>>> mentioned on this list.
>>> Still every day several times a day I connect  to two different servers
>>> using  this package.
>>>
>>
>> I guess your servers still run OpenSSH in versions earlier than 6.9.
>>
>> may I ask again what your issue is presently?
>>>
>>
>> Actually I have given up on it. I spent another day trying to get it to
>> work, but without success.
>>
>> The problem is that I canrCOt connect to an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server with
>> OpenSSH 7.2.
>>
>> SSH2D386 gives the message:
>>
>> Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
>> DH key exchange failed
>>
>> The server logs:
>> Jan 27 00:02:22 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[2651]: error: kex protocol
>> error: type 30 seq 1 [preauth]
>> Jan 27 00:02:22 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[2651]: error: Received
>> disconnect from 192.168.1.110 port 645:3: Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GRO
>>
>> As I wrote I already had problems connecting to a Debian 8 server with
>> OpenSSH 6.7.
>> But there I could fix it with these lines in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the
>> server.
>>
>> Ciphers aes128-cbc
>> KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1
>> MACs hmac-sha1
>> HostKeyAlgorithms ssh-css
>>
>> But in OpenSSH 7.2 this didnrCOt work.
>>
>> What else did I try?
>>
>> I tried to set MTU=576 in C:\FDOS\WATTCP.CFG.
>>
>> I tried to recompile OpenSSH.
>> The first time with adding this line in in compat.c:
>> { "SSHDOS*",SSH_OLD_DHGEX },
>> The second time with this one:
>> { "SSHDOS*",SSH_BUG_NOREKEY|SSH_BUG_FIRSTKEX },
>>
>> Both were not able to let SSH2D386 connect. It worked great with other
>> SSH clients.
>>
>> The idea was that SSH2DOS uses code from PuTTY and there were already
>> several exceptions in combat.c for old PuTTY versions. The reason seems to
>> be that OpenSSH implemented RFC4419 and old PuTTY versions and SSH2DOS did
>> not. See [1], [2].
>>
>> I even looked at the SSH2DOS source code. But I have no experience with
>> OpenWatcom. I installed it but gave up, when I saw I also had to compile
>> the WATT32 TCP/IP stack.
>>
>> SSH2DOS uses PuTTY code, which is also Free Software. So in theory it
>> should be possible to replace the old PuTTY code with a more recent one.
>>
>> cheers
>> Ulrich
>>
>>
>> [1] https://forums.red-gate.com/viewtopic.php?f=198=78958
>> [2] http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/wishlist/
>> rfc4419.html
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple

2017-05-06 Thread WILLIAM DUDLEY 
From: William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com>

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Jerome,

Thanks, that was useful.  It would be better if it also discussed the
settings
needed in VirtualBox.  I figured it out eventually but it took me a bit of
googling
to figure out.

Bill Dudley

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Jerome Shidel <jer...@shidel.net> wrote:

> Made a quick YouTube video of doing a VirtualBox install and how to add
> networking support.
>
> https://youtu.be/k0sP1VAo0D8
>
>

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Jerome,Thanks, that was useful.-a It would
be better if it also discussed the settingsneeded in VirtualBox.-a I
figured it out eventually but it took me a bit of googlingto figure
out.Bill DudleyThis email is free of malware because I run
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Jerome Shidel
mailto:jer...@shidel.net;
target="_blank">jer...@shidel.net wrote:Made a quick YouTube video of doing a VirtualBox
install and how to add networking support.

https://youtu.be/k0sP1VAo0D8; rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">https://youtu.be/k0sP1VAo0D8


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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple

2017-05-06 Thread WILLIAM DUDLEY 
From: William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com>

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Jerome,

When I try this, I see this on screen after selecting "OK":

install d:\net\fdnet.zip  (white text on blue)
Aborted.
C:\>

If I type "install", I get 'bad command or filename - "install".'

>From where does the "install" program come?

dir /s install.exe returns "File not found."  Ditto for "install.com".

Thanks,
Bill Dudley

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Jerome Shidel <jer...@shidel.net> wrote:

>
> > On Dec 25, 2016, at 4:57 PM, William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?
>
> No guide needed under VirtualBox
>
> Install the FDNET package and reboot.
>
> If you downloaded a CD version and did a FULL (not BASE) install, just:
>
> 1) boot the VM
> 2) attach the FreeDOS 1.2 CD
> 3) run FDIMPLES
> 4) Select FDNET under the networking group and pick OK.
> 5) reboot.
>
> Done.
>
>

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Jerome,When I try this, I see this on
screen after selecting OK:install
d:\net\fdnet.zip -a(white text on
blue)Aborted.C:\If I type
install, I get bad command or filename -
install.From where does the
install program come?dir /s install.exe
returns File not found. -aDitto for http://install.com;>install.com.Thanks
Bill DudleyThis email is free of malware because I run
Linux.
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Jerome Shidel
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target="_blank">jer...@shidel.net wrote:
 On Dec 25, 2016, at 4:57 PM, William Dudley mailto:wfdud...@gmail.com;>wfdud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM
?

No guide needed under VirtualBox

Install the FDNET package and reboot.

If you downloaded a CD version and did a FULL (not BASE) install, just:

1) boot the VM
2) attach the FreeDOS 1.2 CD
3) run FDIMPLES
4) Select FDNET under the networking group and pick OK.
5) reboot.

Done.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple

2017-05-06 Thread WILLIAM DUDLEY 
From: William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com>

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Ah-hah.  Nothing works if you have switchar='-'.

NOW, fresh boot, FDIMPLE manages to install FDNET package.

Bill Dudley


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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Jerome Shidel <jer...@shidel.net> wrote:

>
> > On Dec 25, 2016, at 4:57 PM, William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?
>
> No guide needed under VirtualBox
>
> Install the FDNET package and reboot.
>
> If you downloaded a CD version and did a FULL (not BASE) install, just:
>
> 1) boot the VM
> 2) attach the FreeDOS 1.2 CD
> 3) run FDIMPLES
> 4) Select FDNET under the networking group and pick OK.
> 5) reboot.
>
> Done.
>
>

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Ah-hah.-a Nothing works if you have
switchar=-.NOW, fresh boot, FDIMPLE manages to
install FDNET package.Bill DudleyThis email is free of malware because I run
Linux.
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Jerome Shidel
mailto:jer...@shidel.net;
target="_blank">jer...@shidel.net wrote:
 On Dec 25, 2016, at 4:57 PM, William Dudley mailto:wfdud...@gmail.com;>wfdud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM
?

No guide needed under VirtualBox

Install the FDNET package and reboot.

If you downloaded a CD version and did a FULL (not BASE) install, just:

1) boot the VM
2) attach the FreeDOS 1.2 CD
3) run FDIMPLES
4) Select FDNET under the networking group and pick OK.
5) reboot.

Done.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple

2017-05-06 Thread WILLIAM DUDLEY 
From: William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com>

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Abe,

Running Linux, so Windows ability to mount VHD is not useful.

Thanks,
Bill Dudley

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Abe Mishler <a...@mishlerlabs.com> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Earlier this summer, one of the many helpful people here pointed out
> that the VHD format can be mounted directly by Windows. You can probably
> find a guide for doing something similar on Linux with whatever format
> you have chosen. The VM of course needs to be off while mounted by the
> host so this method may not be as convenient as networking. But I
> thought I would mention it as a possibility.
>
> Best,
> Abe
>
>

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Abe,Running Linux, so Windows ability to
mount VHD is not useful.Thanks,Bill
DudleyThis email is free of
malware because I run Linux.
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Abe Mishler
mailto:a...@mishlerlabs.com;
target="_blank">a...@mishlerlabs.com wrote:Bill,

Earlier this summer, one of the many helpful people here pointed out
that the VHD format can be mounted directly by Windows. You can probably
find a guide for doing something similar on Linux with whatever format
you have chosen. The VM of course needs to be off while mounted by the
host so this method may not be as convenient as networking. But I
thought I would mention it as a possibility.

Best,
Abe


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[Freedos-user] Simple gui

2017-05-06 Thread WILLIAM DUDLEY 
From: William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com>

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Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

1.2 is too new for there to be anything in the mailing list archives on
this.

I never got networking going in the previous FreeDOS release.  Getting files
in and out (especially out) of the VM is like pulling teeth.

Thanks,
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Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a
VirtualBox VM ?1.2 is too new for there to be anything in
the mailing list archives on this.I never got
networking going in the previous FreeDOS release.-a Getting filesin
and out (especially out) of the VM is like pulling
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Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

2017-01-26 Thread William Dudley 
Karen,

If you know how to get ssh2d386 to connect to a modern openssh, as on
Ubuntu 16.04,
please share the recipe with us!

Thanks,
Bill Dudley


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On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> Well, if you have given up no point in my sharing.
> We use the same edition of Ubuntu, both with dreamhost who has my office,
> and here at shellworld.
> While the latter requires me to make use of a few ssh2021b options, the -g
> option  for example, I encounter no issues.
> I am going to guess that  things like machine speed, mine is a p3 with
> allot of memory, impacts your situation.
> nor, I would hope, your  location in the world.
> Sorry I did not notice your post before you abandoned  the effort.
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
>
>
>> Am 26.01.2017 um 18:19 schrieb Karen Lewellen :
>>>
>>> As I am presently writing this e-mail using ssh2d386 from the ssh2dos
>>> package ssh2021b,  perhaps I can help you troubleshoot.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Karen!
>>
>> I am using the exact same program and version.
>>
>> for the record, I am not using freedos, but  the ms dos 7.10 package
>>> mentioned on this list.
>>> Still every day several times a day I connect  to two different servers
>>> using  this package.
>>>
>>
>> I guess your servers still run OpenSSH in versions earlier than 6.9.
>>
>> may I ask again what your issue is presently?
>>>
>>
>> Actually I have given up on it. I spent another day trying to get it to
>> work, but without success.
>>
>> The problem is that I can’t connect to an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server with
>> OpenSSH 7.2.
>>
>> SSH2D386 gives the message:
>>
>> Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
>> DH key exchange failed
>>
>> The server logs:
>> Jan 27 00:02:22 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[2651]: error: kex protocol
>> error: type 30 seq 1 [preauth]
>> Jan 27 00:02:22 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[2651]: error: Received
>> disconnect from 192.168.1.110 port 645:3: Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GRO
>>
>> As I wrote I already had problems connecting to a Debian 8 server with
>> OpenSSH 6.7.
>> But there I could fix it with these lines in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the
>> server.
>>
>> Ciphers aes128-cbc
>> KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1
>> MACs hmac-sha1
>> HostKeyAlgorithms ssh-css
>>
>> But in OpenSSH 7.2 this didn’t work.
>>
>> What else did I try?
>>
>> I tried to set MTU=576 in C:\FDOS\WATTCP.CFG.
>>
>> I tried to recompile OpenSSH.
>> The first time with adding this line in in compat.c:
>> { "SSHDOS*",SSH_OLD_DHGEX },
>> The second time with this one:
>> { "SSHDOS*",SSH_BUG_NOREKEY|SSH_BUG_FIRSTKEX },
>>
>> Both were not able to let SSH2D386 connect. It worked great with other
>> SSH clients.
>>
>> The idea was that SSH2DOS uses code from PuTTY and there were already
>> several exceptions in combat.c for old PuTTY versions. The reason seems to
>> be that OpenSSH implemented RFC4419 and old PuTTY versions and SSH2DOS did
>> not. See [1], [2].
>>
>> I even looked at the SSH2DOS source code. But I have no experience with
>> OpenWatcom. I installed it but gave up, when I saw I also had to compile
>> the WATT32 TCP/IP stack.
>>
>> SSH2DOS uses PuTTY code, which is also Free Software. So in theory it
>> should be possible to replace the old PuTTY code with a more recent one.
>>
>> cheers
>> Ulrich
>>
>>
>> [1] https://forums.red-gate.com/viewtopic.php?f=198=78958
>> [2] http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/wishlist/
>> rfc4419.html
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread William Dudley 
Ah-hah.  Nothing works if you have switchar='-'.

NOW, fresh boot, FDIMPLE manages to install FDNET package.

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Jerome Shidel <jer...@shidel.net> wrote:

>
> > On Dec 25, 2016, at 4:57 PM, William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?
>
> No guide needed under VirtualBox
>
> Install the FDNET package and reboot.
>
> If you downloaded a CD version and did a FULL (not BASE) install, just:
>
> 1) boot the VM
> 2) attach the FreeDOS 1.2 CD
> 3) run FDIMPLES
> 4) Select FDNET under the networking group and pick OK.
> 5) reboot.
>
> Done.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread William Dudley 
Regan,

Where is the "fdinstall" program?  I cannot find one on my FreeDOS install.

When I do "dir /s fdinstall.exe" I get "File not found.".  Ditto for "
fdinstall.com".

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:45 PM, regan  wrote:

> Hello Bill,
>
> Using Freedos 1.2 and Virtual box Version 5.1.10 r112026 (Qt5.6.2)
>
> When I installed Freedos, I installed the standard CD image, I got a second
> disk path D:
> I did this:
> cd C:\fdos\bin
> dir D:\net
> C:
> rem foreach package in the directory listing I did (each package) becomes
> each zip file.
> fdinstall install d:\net\(each package).zip
> fdinstall install d:\net\(each package).zip
> fdinstall install d:\net\(each package).zip
> 
> fdinstall install d:\net\(each package).zip
> reboot
>
> To test this I did the following..
>
> I did a wget mySAN\filepath
> eg:
> wget 192.168.0.171:/unix/algol.txt
>
> ... and it just worked.
>
> I have the entire turbo gameworks, turbo pascal, turbo this-or-that toolbox
> on 5.25" floppies somewhere.. ;-) ... BTW, I won a Xeon Phi as a university
> prize but I have nothing to put it in, so it sits in the packaging, whats
> the deal with the Phi thing in your signature?
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread William Dudley 
Jerome,

When I try this, I see this on screen after selecting "OK":

install d:\net\fdnet.zip  (white text on blue)
Aborted.
C:\>

If I type "install", I get 'bad command or filename - "install".'

>From where does the "install" program come?

dir /s install.exe returns "File not found."  Ditto for "install.com".

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Jerome Shidel <jer...@shidel.net> wrote:

>
> > On Dec 25, 2016, at 4:57 PM, William Dudley <wfdud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?
>
> No guide needed under VirtualBox
>
> Install the FDNET package and reboot.
>
> If you downloaded a CD version and did a FULL (not BASE) install, just:
>
> 1) boot the VM
> 2) attach the FreeDOS 1.2 CD
> 3) run FDIMPLES
> 4) Select FDNET under the networking group and pick OK.
> 5) reboot.
>
> Done.
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread William Dudley 
Abe,

Running Linux, so Windows ability to mount VHD is not useful.

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Abe Mishler  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Earlier this summer, one of the many helpful people here pointed out
> that the VHD format can be mounted directly by Windows. You can probably
> find a guide for doing something similar on Linux with whatever format
> you have chosen. The VM of course needs to be off while mounted by the
> host so this method may not be as convenient as networking. But I
> thought I would mention it as a possibility.
>
> Best,
> Abe
>
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[Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-25 Thread William Dudley 
Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

1.2 is too new for there to be anything in the mailing list archives on
this.

I never got networking going in the previous FreeDOS release.  Getting files
in and out (especially out) of the VM is like pulling teeth.

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