Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
well..this was an adventure I hope not to encounter again. First, the t command, which I was told would test integrity failed all together. so did, unlike with pk branded zip items, running p7zip on an archive in a different directory, even with the DPMI file right beside the thing. What finally worked was putting the p7zip executable file, and the cwsdpmi executable actually in the directory along side the .7z archive in question. extracted it with the x option as I had been told would work. messy business speaking personally, but if the thing expects a package manager, that may be the reason. Thanks for all the help everyone! Kare ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
On 11/1/2023 12:32 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: I am sorry if this question is very very silly. My goal is to extract, not to create a 7zip file. The file referenced by Eric, seems to have archiving tools, but not extracting ones. Unless I am missing something profoundly obvious? Well, there is one executable to do it all. You just give it a different command, "a" to create/add to a ZIP/7Z file, "t" to list the files inside, and "x" to "eXtract". Just check the readme.txt Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Sorry, I have a retraction. links20f works fine, not giving me the dpmi error. p7zip does however. going to try a small trick, especially as I will only need this once. everything crossed. On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Thanks again Eric! I was likewise confused by some of what is here. your wisdom about what to run has presented another challenge. now, this is the first time in a while a machine has been built for me, without my being present for the dos installation itself. when I run the p7zip command I get a load error no DPMI as an aside, I get this when I now run links20f as well. such did not happen previously, leading me to guess something is not loading as it should, or loading that should not. How do I correct the DPMI error, and where, autoexec.bat or config.sys? Thanks again, Karen On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi! > I did download Eric's file, as I do not use freedos. While you get extra package management features by opening our zipped app packages with a package manager, unzipping them with any UNZIP style tool will usually be sufficient. So you should be fine. > The information indicates that it might be a port of a windows package. > My search suggested that I should fine an executable called 7za, > or even just 7z, but it is not?? there. > the p7z file does not work at all. There are two EXE files in the download: 624292 bx defX 09-Mar-05 00:00 ARCHIVER/P7ZIP/P7ZIP.EXE 542956 bx defX 09-Mar-04 23:48 ARCHIVER/P7ZIP/P7ZIPR.EXE When you run p7zip -h or p7zipr -h they will show the help text which makes me assume that they are two different compiles of a standard 7-zip binary. I have no idea why they got renamed to p7zip here? The directory also contains various text documents and a subdirectory with a HTML manual. In addition, there are APPINFO, LINKS and SOURCE directories. The former contains metadata about the package, the latter contains a zip with the source code and the LINKS directory contains a batch file which seems to be meant as a wrapper to be put in your path to call p7zip.exe without having to add the archiver p7zip directory to your path. It does not pass the command line arguments, though, which confuses me. In short, you should be able to just copy the exe and maybe the .1 documentation files from the ARCHIVER/P7ZIP directory into a directory in your path and keep everything else around at a place of your choice for some extra documentation. You do not need to use a package manager then. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
You should be alright if you grab a copy of CWSDPMI and add it either to: - one of the directories in your %PATH% - or you put it in your current working directory - or you put it alongside P7ZIP.EXE CWSDPMI is also packaged by FreeDOS: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/1.3/util/cwsdpmi.zip If you download this zip file, you will find the relevant file under BIN\CWSDPMI.EXE inside the archive. I'm not sure if the other files are going to be needed, but I would copy them over for good measure. Keep in mind this is speculation on my part, about these extra files. W dniu 01.11.2023 o 22:59, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: Thanks again Eric! I was likewise confused by some of what is here. your wisdom about what to run has presented another challenge. now, this is the first time in a while a machine has been built for me, without my being present for the dos installation itself. when I run the p7zip command I get a load error no DPMI as an aside, I get this when I now run links20f as well. such did not happen previously, leading me to guess something is not loading as it should, or loading that should not. How do I correct the DPMI error, and where, autoexec.bat or config.sys? Thanks again, Karen On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi! I did download Eric's file, as I do not use freedos. While you get extra package management features by opening our zipped app packages with a package manager, unzipping them with any UNZIP style tool will usually be sufficient. So you should be fine. The information indicates that it might be a port of a windows package. My search suggested that I should fine an executable called 7za, or even just 7z, but it is not there. the p7z file does not work at all. There are two EXE files in the download: 624292 bx defX 09-Mar-05 00:00 ARCHIVER/P7ZIP/P7ZIP.EXE 542956 bx defX 09-Mar-04 23:48 ARCHIVER/P7ZIP/P7ZIPR.EXE When you run p7zip -h or p7zipr -h they will show the help text which makes me assume that they are two different compiles of a standard 7-zip binary. I have no idea why they got renamed to p7zip here? The directory also contains various text documents and a subdirectory with a HTML manual. In addition, there are APPINFO, LINKS and SOURCE directories. The former contains metadata about the package, the latter contains a zip with the source code and the LINKS directory contains a batch file which seems to be meant as a wrapper to be put in your path to call p7zip.exe without having to add the archiver p7zip directory to your path. It does not pass the command line arguments, though, which confuses me. In short, you should be able to just copy the exe and maybe the .1 documentation files from the ARCHIVER/P7ZIP directory into a directory in your path and keep everything else around at a place of your choice for some extra documentation. You do not need to use a package manager then. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Thanks again Eric! I was likewise confused by some of what is here. your wisdom about what to run has presented another challenge. now, this is the first time in a while a machine has been built for me, without my being present for the dos installation itself. when I run the p7zip command I get a load error no DPMI as an aside, I get this when I now run links20f as well. such did not happen previously, leading me to guess something is not loading as it should, or loading that should not. How do I correct the DPMI error, and where, autoexec.bat or config.sys? Thanks again, Karen On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi! I did download Eric's file, as I do not use freedos. While you get extra package management features by opening our zipped app packages with a package manager, unzipping them with any UNZIP style tool will usually be sufficient. So you should be fine. The information indicates that it might be a port of a windows package. My search suggested that I should fine an executable called 7za, or even just 7z, but it is not there. the p7z file does not work at all. There are two EXE files in the download: 624292 bx defX 09-Mar-05 00:00 ARCHIVER/P7ZIP/P7ZIP.EXE 542956 bx defX 09-Mar-04 23:48 ARCHIVER/P7ZIP/P7ZIPR.EXE When you run p7zip -h or p7zipr -h they will show the help text which makes me assume that they are two different compiles of a standard 7-zip binary. I have no idea why they got renamed to p7zip here? The directory also contains various text documents and a subdirectory with a HTML manual. In addition, there are APPINFO, LINKS and SOURCE directories. The former contains metadata about the package, the latter contains a zip with the source code and the LINKS directory contains a batch file which seems to be meant as a wrapper to be put in your path to call p7zip.exe without having to add the archiver p7zip directory to your path. It does not pass the command line arguments, though, which confuses me. In short, you should be able to just copy the exe and maybe the .1 documentation files from the ARCHIVER/P7ZIP directory into a directory in your path and keep everything else around at a place of your choice for some extra documentation. You do not need to use a package manager then. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Hi! I did download Eric's file, as I do not use freedos. While you get extra package management features by opening our zipped app packages with a package manager, unzipping them with any UNZIP style tool will usually be sufficient. So you should be fine. The information indicates that it might be a port of a windows package. My search suggested that I should fine an executable called 7za, or even just 7z, but it is not there. the p7z file does not work at all. There are two EXE files in the download: 624292 bx defX 09-Mar-05 00:00 ARCHIVER/P7ZIP/P7ZIP.EXE 542956 bx defX 09-Mar-04 23:48 ARCHIVER/P7ZIP/P7ZIPR.EXE When you run p7zip -h or p7zipr -h they will show the help text which makes me assume that they are two different compiles of a standard 7-zip binary. I have no idea why they got renamed to p7zip here? The directory also contains various text documents and a subdirectory with a HTML manual. In addition, there are APPINFO, LINKS and SOURCE directories. The former contains metadata about the package, the latter contains a zip with the source code and the LINKS directory contains a batch file which seems to be meant as a wrapper to be put in your path to call p7zip.exe without having to add the archiver p7zip directory to your path. It does not pass the command line arguments, though, which confuses me. In short, you should be able to just copy the exe and maybe the .1 documentation files from the ARCHIVER/P7ZIP directory into a directory in your path and keep everything else around at a place of your choice for some extra documentation. You do not need to use a package manager then. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
If you download p7zip from http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/archiver/p7zip.zip, you can use the file ARCHIVER\P7ZIP\P7ZIP.EXE Optimally, you should extract the entire directory ARCHIVER\P7ZIP somewhere and write a P7ZIP.BAT file in your %PATH% that calls wherever you put P7ZIP.EXE, because, the ARCHIVER\P7ZIP directory contains 7ZCON.SFX and P7ZIPR.EXE, which are part of the package. W dniu 01.11.2023 o 21:44, Karen Lewellen pisze: I did download Eric's file, as I do not use freedos. The information indicates that it might be a port of a windows package. My search suggested that I should fine an executable called 7za, or even just 7z, but it is not there. the p7z file does not work at all. On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Micha�~B Dec wrote: Hello Karen, As I've stated in my previous email: * unzip is for decompressing zip files * zip is for creating zip files * p7zip is for BOTH creating and extracting 7z files (and many more actually) With p7zip, this is not an Alcohol 68% and Alcohol 52% situation, like it is with zip and unzip ;) You can install all 3 from fdimples, which is the package manager for FreeDOS. fdimples should be able to use a CDROM, a USB pendrive, or a network connection to reach a repository and let you install whatever packages are available within. If you do not want to use fdimples, I'm afraid you'll have to download those files that Eric specified on Ibiblio and extract them into your FreeDOS partition. The disadvantage here is that you'll have to serve yourself to have these tools available in %PATH%, or, put up with having to use absolute paths to the executables of these programs. Hope it helps! Best regards, Michał Dec W dniu 01.11.2023 o 20:32, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: The file referenced by Eric, seems to have archiving tools, but not extracting ones. Unless I am missing something profoundly obvious? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
I did download Eric's file, as I do not use freedos. The information indicates that it might be a port of a windows package. My search suggested that I should fine an executable called 7za, or even just 7z, but it is not there. the p7z file does not work at all. On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Micha?~B Dec wrote: Hello Karen, As I've stated in my previous email: * unzip is for decompressing zip files * zip is for creating zip files * p7zip is for BOTH creating and extracting 7z files (and many more actually) With p7zip, this is not an Alcohol 68% and Alcohol 52% situation, like it is with zip and unzip ;) You can install all 3 from fdimples, which is the package manager for FreeDOS. fdimples should be able to use a CDROM, a USB pendrive, or a network connection to reach a repository and let you install whatever packages are available within. If you do not want to use fdimples, I'm afraid you'll have to download those files that Eric specified on Ibiblio and extract them into your FreeDOS partition. The disadvantage here is that you'll have to serve yourself to have these tools available in %PATH%, or, put up with having to use absolute paths to the executables of these programs. Hope it helps! Best regards, Micha?? Dec W dniu 01.11.2023 o??20:32, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: The file referenced by Eric, seems to have archiving tools, but not extracting ones. Unless I am missing something profoundly obvious?___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Hello Karen, As I've stated in my previous email: * unzip is for decompressing zip files * zip is for creating zip files * p7zip is for BOTH creating and extracting 7z files (and many more actually) With p7zip, this is not an Alcohol 68% and Alcohol 52% situation, like it is with zip and unzip ;) You can install all 3 from fdimples, which is the package manager for FreeDOS. fdimples should be able to use a CDROM, a USB pendrive, or a network connection to reach a repository and let you install whatever packages are available within. If you do not want to use fdimples, I'm afraid you'll have to download those files that Eric specified on Ibiblio and extract them into your FreeDOS partition. The disadvantage here is that you'll have to serve yourself to have these tools available in %PATH%, or, put up with having to use absolute paths to the executables of these programs. Hope it helps! Best regards, Michał Dec W dniu 01.11.2023 o 20:32, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: The file referenced by Eric, seems to have archiving tools, but not extracting ones. Unless I am missing something profoundly obvious? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
I am sorry if this question is very very silly. My goal is to extract, not to create a 7zip file. The file referenced by Eric, seems to have archiving tools, but not extracting ones. Unless I am missing something profoundly obvious? Thanks profoundly, On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: I do not have a freedos install cd. I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am seeking it somewhere. are such files given names like file.7zip? the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why I am likewise asking. Karen The common file extension for 7Zip files is .7z Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Thanks Eric, you are a prince. Karen On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi! According to https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/report.html you can download http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/archiver/p7zip.zip for 7zip. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Hi Ralf, Thanks for the correct extension. Will download the file again saving it properly. I do not personally run freedos yet for many reasons, so my thanks to others for doors to the software as well. Kare On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: I do not have a freedos install cd. I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am seeking it somewhere. are such files given names like file.7zip? the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why I am likewise asking. Karen The common file extension for 7Zip files is .7z Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Hi! According to https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/report.html you can download http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/archiver/p7zip.zip for 7zip. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
That and there's also, well, guessing which ~# file is the correct one. Also if you don't have the install CD, you can try your luck with connecting your FreeDOS instance to the Internet. fdimples has no problem downloading stuff that's online if you don't have a CD at hand. But, luck is the keyword here. Michał W dniu 31.10.2023 o 21:30, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user pisze: On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: I do not have a freedos install cd. I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am seeking it somewhere. are such files given names like file.7zip? the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why I am likewise asking. Karen The common file extension for 7Zip files is .7z Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
On 10/31/2023 1:27 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: I do not have a freedos install cd. I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am seeking it somewhere. are such files given names like file.7zip? the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why I am likewise asking. Karen The common file extension for 7Zip files is .7z Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
I do not have a freedos install cd. I understand that 7 zip files require the 7zip program...which is why I am seeking it somewhere. are such files given names like file.7zip? the latter does not keep the three character extension rule, which is why I am likewise asking. Karen On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Micha�~B Dec wrote: Regular zip files can be decompressed with unzip. For compression, use zip. 7z files can be decompressed with 7zip. They're all on the full FreeDOS install CD. Best regards, Michał Dec W dniu 31.10.2023 o 21:20, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: Hi All, and a reminder how to set them apart from say .zip files? have such an archive, needed to get a machine built, and one program I am restoring is available as a 7zip file. Is there a DOS equal to the pk zip package? And should such files be named differently than just .zip? Thanks so much. With appreciation, Karen ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Regular zip files can be decompressed with unzip. For compression, use zip. 7z files can be decompressed with 7zip. They're all on the full FreeDOS install CD. Best regards, Michał Dec W dniu 31.10.2023 o 21:20, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user pisze: Hi All, and a reminder how to set them apart from say .zip files? have such an archive, needed to get a machine built, and one program I am restoring is available as a 7zip file. Is there a DOS equal to the pk zip package? And should such files be named differently than just .zip? Thanks so much. With appreciation, Karen ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] 7zip for dOS?
Hi All, and a reminder how to set them apart from say .zip files? have such an archive, needed to get a machine built, and one program I am restoring is available as a 7zip file. Is there a DOS equal to the pk zip package? And should such files be named differently than just .zip? Thanks so much. With appreciation, Karen ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
