Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
Hi, On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 1:44 PM Matej Horvat wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 21:39:55 +0100, C. Masloch wrote: > > I'd be interested in this. I'm using Mercurial for my own projects. > > I have put the instructions here: > http://matejhorvat.si/en/dos/hg/ I don't know either Python nor Mercurial. But thanks for your efforts on this. Hope it helps somebody. (A patch might've been simpler, no offense. I should probably mirror this for us since I did mirror PythonD. Or should the tires be kicked a bit more?) BTW, just a simple remark on your notes: >> If you use a batch file to start Mercurial, you will be unable to redirect >> or pipe its output, which makes >> certain commands (such as hg log) hard to use. You can use an alias if your >> command interpreter >> supports it or pipe Mercurial's output to TEE inside the batch file as a >> workaround. 4DOS supports .BAT redirection automatically (same as XP's CMD), but normal COMMAND.COM needs a separate shell invocation to do it: "%COMSPEC% /c my.bat >file.out" Is that what you meant? Does that help? Or is it more complicated? (DJGPP would probably use its own REDIR.EXE utility, but I don't recall if that's included in PythonD or not.) ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 21:39:55 +0100, C. Masloch wrote: I'd be interested in this. I'm using Mercurial for my own projects. I have put the instructions here: http://matejhorvat.si/en/dos/hg/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
My reply is at the bottom. Please put your reply there too. On Sun, 16 Feb 2020, Andy Stamp wrote: Hello, I've starting working on a game and some small dual monitor (VGA + MDA) utilities but have run into issues where the code used to work and now it doesn't. We use subversion, cvs, and git at work and I was wondering what options are available for dos-based systems besides dated zip files. Svn and git likely never had even a 386+ DOS version but I suspect that CVS must have. What other DOS options were used prior to the source safe era? Check this out: https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/6588/source-code-control-on-an-ms-dos-system -- David Griffith d...@661.org A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 2:23 PM tom ehlert wrote: > > > On 16/02/2020 22:54, tom ehlert wrote: > >> doing programming *on* DOS in 2020 is just stupid. > > > Why would that be more stupid than programming *for* DOS in 2020? > > A hobby is a hobby. > > ok. replace 'stupid' by 'inefficient' in the sense that there are > easier ways to get useful DOS programs then programming on DOS itself. > this is called cross-development. I know a few folks who are Old Skool, and deliberately programming *on* old DOS PCs. It's a question of "How much performance can I manage to coax out of ancient hardware?" Obviously, they are hacking in Assembler and playing with undocumented DOS functions. Speaking personally, were I to develop for DOS, I'd *do* development on a Windows or Linux machine, simply because of the toolchains available on those platforms. VCS's are a cse in point. Most development these days uses git as the VCS, but you will never see a git client for DOS. I'm not sure one is possible, and even it it is, who would build one? And since you can develop under Windows or Linux and cross-compile to produce a DOS executable, why would you need one? You won't keep your repository on the DOS PC... But yes, we all have hobbies, and there are folks who will accept the trade offs and live with the limitations imposed by the hardware and OS. More power to them, but that's not where I'd invest my time. > Tom __ Dennis ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, tom ehlert wrote: On 16/02/2020 22:54, tom ehlert wrote: doing programming *on* DOS in 2020 is just stupid. Why would that be more stupid than programming *for* DOS in 2020? A hobby is a hobby. ok. replace 'stupid' by 'inefficient' in the sense that there are easier ways to get useful DOS programs then programming on DOS itself. this is called cross-development. I would suspect that if folks are writing new software for DOS, they're also after the experience. Any idiot can cross-develop. ;) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
> On 16/02/2020 22:54, tom ehlert wrote: >> doing programming *on* DOS in 2020 is just stupid. > Why would that be more stupid than programming *for* DOS in 2020? > A hobby is a hobby. ok. replace 'stupid' by 'inefficient' in the sense that there are easier ways to get useful DOS programs then programming on DOS itself. this is called cross-development. Tom ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
On 16/02/2020 22:54, tom ehlert wrote: doing programming *on* DOS in 2020 is just stupid. Why would that be more stupid than programming *for* DOS in 2020? A hobby is a hobby. Mateusz ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
> I've starting working on a game and some small dual monitor (VGA + > MDA) utilities but have run into issues where the code used to work > and now it doesn't. We use subversion, cvs, and git at work and I > was wondering what options are available for dos-based systems besides dated > zip files. just because you want to program *for* DOS this doesn't mean you have to program *on* DOS. develop on your preferred platform (I did and do everything on Windows XP, but Linux or Mac is probably fine as well) with multiple huge monitors, your favorite editor and other programming tools, google/git/cvs/whatever all time around in the next window. *test* on DOS, that's ok. doing programming *on* DOS in 2020 is just stupid. Tom ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
On at 2020-02-18 18:25 +0100, Matej Horvat wrote: > I have managed to get Mercurial 3.4.2 running on DOS semi-reliably (at > least for local use) with some modifications. I can try to reconstruct > the steps needed if you want. I'd be interested in this. I'm using Mercurial for my own projects. Shameless plug: https://hg.ulukai.org/ecm/ Though I do still depend on things like bash, perl, grep, and sed, for actually running my build scripts. But Mercurial running on a DOS would still be good. Regards, ecm ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
I have managed to get Mercurial 3.4.2 running on DOS semi-reliably (at least for local use) with some modifications. I can try to reconstruct the steps needed if you want. There is also Prism, which was written with the explicit goal of running on DOS (in real mode, even), but is not complete: https://github.com/ArmstrongJ/prism (I solved this problem by writing a primitive VCS myself, but it is currently unfinished, not publicly available, and might not ever be.) ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
Hi, CVS and RCS (at least) are available in DJGPP: http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/ /Tomas On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 19:26:03 +0100, Andy Stamp wrote: > Hello, > > I've starting working on a game and some small dual monitor (VGA + > MDA) utilities but have run into issues where the code used to work > and now it doesn't. We use subversion, cvs, and git at work and I > was wondering what options are available for dos-based systems > besides dated zip files. > Svn and git likely never had even a 386+ DOS version but I suspect > that CVS must have. What other DOS options were used prior to the > source safe era? > > Thanks, > --Andy ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control
There were one or more version control systems, at least one on DOS, and I'll try to dig up a name. I do remember using RCS and SCCS, but they might have been on later Unix based jobs. RCS was revision control system and SCCS stood for source code control system. Bill Dudley sent from my Linux phone On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 1:27 PM Andy Stamp wrote: > Hello, > > I've starting working on a game and some small dual monitor (VGA + MDA) > utilities but have run into issues where the code used to work and now it > doesn't. We use subversion, cvs, and git at work and I was wondering what > options are available for dos-based systems besides dated zip files. > > Svn and git likely never had even a 386+ DOS version but I suspect that > CVS must have. What other DOS options were used prior to the source safe > era? > > Thanks, > --Andy > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] DOS version control
Hello, I've starting working on a game and some small dual monitor (VGA + MDA) utilities but have run into issues where the code used to work and now it doesn't. We use subversion, cvs, and git at work and I was wondering what options are available for dos-based systems besides dated zip files. Svn and git likely never had even a 386+ DOS version but I suspect that CVS must have. What other DOS options were used prior to the source safe era? Thanks, --Andy ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
