Re: [Freedos-user] FDCONFIG.SYS
Hi Daniel, > On May 17, 2022, at 5:45 AM, Daniel wrote: > > This may be a crazy or even insane thing to ask, nevermind do, but is it > possible to create a new config file and use that. For instance rename > fdconfig.sys to the MSDOS config.sys? You can use either FDCONFIG.SYS or CONFIG.SYS with FreeDOS. Nothing special is needed. You can just rename FDCONFIG.SYS so the kernel will then look for CONFIG.SYS. However, there is an advantage to using FDCONFIG instead. Older commercial programs that have their own installers and modify the config file, were generally bad at making good changes to the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files. Often duplicating or creating conflicting settings. Sometimes even reducing things like FILES=80 to FILES=40. This was even an issue sometimes when installing programs created circa MS-DOS 3 onto later versions of MS-DOS like 6.2 or installing into PC-DOS. Also, there are also some differences when it comes to what drivers and their settings get used by FreeDOS. Using FDCONFIG and FDAUTO provides an relatively easy way to use those old installers and not break your system configuration. Then afterwards, you can manually include any needed changes. :-) Jerome ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FDCONFIG.SYS
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Re: [Freedos-user] FDCONFIG.SYS
On Tue, May 17, 2022, 4:47 AM Daniel wrote: > This may be a crazy or even insane thing to ask, nevermind do, but is it > possible to create a new config file and use that. For instance rename > fdconfig.sys to the MSDOS config.sys? > Hi Daniel Yes you can. FreeDOS will look for FDCONFIG.SYS first by default. If the FreeDOS kernel cannot find FDCONFIG.SYS, it then looks for CONFIG.SYS. So you can rename your FDCONFIG.SYS file to CONFIG.SYS and that will be fine. We look for FDCONFIG.SYS first because that makes it easier for folks to dual boot a computer with FreeDOS and MS-DOS. Since MS-DOS only looks for CONFIG.SYS, users can effectively have one config file for FreeDOS and another config file for MS-DOS, on the same disk. I'll add that you can also rename FDAUTO.BAT to AUTOEXEC.BAT *but you'll need to change all the references in your FDCONFIG.SYS/CONFIG.SYS file. You'll find the references on the SHELL lines.* Jim ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FDCONFIG.SYS
This may be a crazy or even insane thing to ask, nevermind do, but is it possible to create a new config file and use that. For instance rename fdconfig.sys to the MSDOS config.sys? On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 21:20 wrote: > Send Freedos-user mailing list submissions to > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freedos-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freedos-user-ow...@lists.sourceforge.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Freedos-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option" (Jim Hall) >2. Re: "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS option" > (richardkolacz...@hotmail.com) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 12:07:48 -0500 > From: Jim Hall > To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." > > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS > option" > Message-ID: > < > cahvad3b34vftw7titkv9pnd4d5cixq_o_ozgt58_c9htuh4...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:09 AM Liam Proven wrote: > > > > I thought that this blog post might interest folks here. > > > > > https://blog.tmm.cx/2022/05/15/the-very-weird-hewlett-packard-freedos-option/ > > > > Various models of HP computer can be bought with FreeDOS as their > > operating system, and it is the cheapest option -- or Ubuntu Linux for > > some models. > > > > But it's not just a computer with a formatted hard disk and FreeDOS on > > it. It's considerably more complicated than that... > > > > > Summary for those who don't want to click on the article: > > HP is selling new laptops, like the HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8, with > FreeDOS pre-installed. But it's UEFI only (no BIOS) and any DOS > requires a BIOS. Here's how HP pre-installed FreeDOS on this system: > (quoted from article) > > > 1 The laptops is set to UEFI boot, which boots a pretty standard GRUB > > 2 Debian gets booted with KMS disabled, as well as all DRM drivers. > > 3 Once the system is booted Gnome Display Manager starts > > 4 GDM will automatically login the root user and start the > /root/.xsession > > 5 The XSession will start an XFCE terminal and executes Qemu on an > image file in /home/aos/qemu > > > So basically, HP has installed Linux, which starts QEMU, and they boot > FreeDOS inside QEMU. When you shut down FreeDOS (exit QEMU) the system > shuts down too. > > > *I'll note that I don't see the same pre-installed OS options when I > click on the "HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8" in the article. I only see > "Windows 11 Pro," "Windows 10 Pro," "Windows 11 Home," and "Ubuntu > Linux 20.04." So either HP has changed it, or the "FreeDOS" option is > not available in the US (the article's screenshots show purchase > prices in Euro). > > > Jim > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 01:20:30 + > From: "richardkolacz...@hotmail.com" > To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. > > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] "The very weird Hewlett Packard FreeDOS > option" > Message-ID: > < > sy4p282mb39381787bbaacb5c2bbba69488...@sy4p282mb3938.ausp282.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Jim Hall wrote > > > > *I'll note that I don't see the same pre-installed OS options when I > click on the "HP Zbook Fury 17.8 G8" in the article. I only see > "Windows 11 Pro," "Windows 10 Pro," "Windows 11 Home," and "Ubuntu > Linux 20.04." So either HP has changed it, or the "FreeDOS" option is > not available in the US (the article's screenshots show purchase > prices in Euro). > > > NO NEW INFORMATION here (below) from me, but ... > > IF I am allowed to quote myself (from a now "dead" topic) > > [Freedos-user] Question about FreeDOS 3.0 > > > For anyone curious, the following link is how to custom configure (at > purchase time) the HP laptop > > > https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?urlLangId==10051=-1=10151=3074457345620032820=1 > > >From the options at start of page, using Ubuntu (which is free) as a > guide - one can determine the "cost" of Windows (Pro) to being about > US$215. Depending which (of many) links to configure HP zBook G8 you go > to, the option of FreeDOS 3.0 is not always available - however with the > previous model (about 1-2 years ago), the G7 version always had FreeDOS 2.0 > or Ubuntu at no charge (and roughly Windows Pro being at the same price). > > > > NOTE - HP has just announced the next model - HP zBOOK Fury G9 > > > Richard > > > > From: Jim Hall > Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2022
[Freedos-user] fdconfig.sys syntax
When I found http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/cnfigsys/fdconfig.htm I expected some way to discover its syntax, but the syntax link directs to look up individual commands. This seems a poor way do discover what I see in the initial fdconfig.sys file created by the FreeDOS installer, which is very broken and useless: [FDCONFIG.SYS] !COUNTRY=001,858,C:\DOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS !SET DOSDIR=C:\DOS 1?DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG 2?DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE 2?DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG 3?DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\XMGR.SYS 3?SHELL=C:\DOS\bin\4dos.com C:\DOS\bin /E:1024 /P:C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT 4?SHELL=C:\DOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\DOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT When I boot, after the copyright notice is the following: C: HD1, Pri[ 2], CHS=5-0-1, start=39 MB, size= 243 MB D: HD1, Ext[ 2], CHS= 160-0-1, start= 1255 MB, size= 7 MB E: HD1, Ext[ 4], CHS= 161-0-1, start= 1262 MB, size= 250 MB F: HD1, Ext[ 5], CHS= 4797-0-1, start= 37628 MB, size= 509 MB Select from Menu [01234], or press [ENTER - Singlestepping (F8) is: OFF If I strike 0, I get: FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00] File not found. C:\ If I strike 1, I get: JemmEx v5.75 [05/21/11] System memory found at e000-efff, region might be in use JemmEx loaded FreeCom version 0.84-pre2 XMS_Swap [Aug 28 2006 00:29:00] File not found. C:\ Obviously the FDCONFIG.SYS options can be selected via [01234], but it would be nice to be able to see the boot menu and not have to blindly select from a hidden list of options instead of unhelpful partitioning info at boot time. Can someone suggest a URL that explains what I see and how to fix it? http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Dfsee/big41L01.txt has system's partitioning and Grub boot info. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- How fast is your code? 3 out of 4 devs don\\\'t know how their code performs in production. Find out how slow your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219672;13503038;z? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] fdconfig.sys syntax
This seems a poor way do discover what I see in the initial fdconfig.sys file created by the FreeDOS installer, which is very broken and useless I think the FreeDOS 1.0 installer wrote a menu for these choices, which was more useful. If the new installer left you with no menu display by default, that's an error in it. Obviously the FDCONFIG.SYS options can be selected via [01234], but it would be nice to be able to see the boot menu and not have to blindly select from a hidden list of options Right. The config file should use menu to display a menu, and optionally menudefault. Note that what is displayed using menu doesn't actually create the menu; as you see the config handling already asks you for a menu using your current (default installed?) configuration. The menu command is more like the echo command but intended for displaying the config menu. menu: http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/cnfigsys/menu.htm menudefault: http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/cnfigsys/menudef.htm instead of unhelpful partitioning info at boot time. If you prefer, that can additionally be turned off: sys config c:\kernel.sys showdriveassignment=0 The file name here must specify the kernel that you use to boot, typically found in c:\kernel.sys. If the file name is kernel.sys and the path (typically c:\) equals the current directory then you need not specify the file name at all. The command syntax is described at http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/sys.htm The following file (kernel's sys.txt) describes these kernel settings: http://freedos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/freedos/kernel/trunk/docs/sys.txt Regards, Chris -- How fast is your code? 3 out of 4 devs don\\\'t know how their code performs in production. Find out how slow your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219672;13503038;z? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FDCONFIG.SYS
The next problem, I get an error when writing to FDCONFIG.SYS, even if FDOS not running? I tried to copy some part from the CONFIG.SYS from the NTFS4DOS Floppy to FDCONFIG.SYS. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
