Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread Marv
Thanks Robert - I read through the bootmgr.txt file and then gave bootmgr a
try. The first hard disk is a 250GB SSD with (3) 32GB FAT32 partitions. The
rest of the drive is unallocated because I thought I would install a Linux
partition there later on.

Windows 2000 is in the first partition, FreeDOS is in the second partition.
The third partition is empty. I was planning on using it for data
files.FreeDOS was installed after Windows 2000.

I do have a second drive but have not set up bootmgr in it. The second
drive does have a working FreeDOS installation that I can access if I go
into my BIOS and swap drives, which is what I'm trying to avoid. That
second drive doesn't have any other operating system in it.

I included a link to a screenshot of my bootmgr setup. I think I have it
right but maybe not? I setup 3 choices: FreeDOS, Windows 2000, and the
floppy drive. FreeeDOS gets an error. Windows 2000 and the floppy boot ok.

I'm getting basically the same kind of error I was getting with other
multi-boot methods. When I try to boot FreeDOS, I get a message saying"
NTLDR is missing" which tells me bootmgr is probably going to the right
partition because FreeDOS doesn't have a NTLDR file, which of course
Windows 2000 does have.

http://allenthings.com/bootmgr1.jpg

Marvin Allen


On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 1:20 PM Robert Riebisch  wrote:

> Hi Marv,
>
> > I spent the last 3 days fooling around with several ways to set my
> > Windows 2000/FreeDOS machine set up with a multi-boot menu. I tried GAG,
> > Grub4Dos, and the boot.ini file that Windows 2000 uses.
>
> Many years ago I had the DOS/Win2000 combo working on a single drive
> using our: https://www.bttr-software.de/products/bootmgr/
> The key is to hide unneeded partitions from the other OS.
> See screenshot #2.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert
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Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread Ralf Quint

On 11/14/2020 7:46 AM, tom ehlert wrote:

Hallo Herr Marv,

the windows 2000 boot.ini should work

however it's complicated to advise when you keep this to yourself,
including the resulting error.


+1

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Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread tom ehlert

> Hey Tom - do you think Windows 2000 boot.ini is the best way to go
> for my particular setup? If you do, I'll give it another try and report my 
> errors/messages. 

multibooting Windows NT/2000/XP with DOS was a 'no problem' problem in
~1995-2005, using any of multiple (boot.ini, GRUB, bootmgr, ...) ways.

while this (dark age) knowledge has vanished over the years, it should
still work it's magic even today.

and it's completely ignored by the FreeDOS installer :-<<

I have no idea if it's the BEST way to do things.
it's what I use.

Tom






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Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread ZB
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 04:40:00PM +0100, Tomas By wrote:

> Installing Linux last has always worked for me. I'm sure there is some
> way to use only the boot loader (or whatever it is).

Indeed - on one of my machines I use multi-boot
DOS/OpenBSD/ForthOS/Windows/Kolibri - and I copied Grub 0.97 (for Linux) to
OpenBSD partition. It can be copied anywhere provided it can recognize the
partition where it'll be installed
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Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread Marv
Hey Tom - do you think Windows 2000 boot.ini is the best way to go for my
particular setup? If you do, I'll give it another try and report my
errors/messages.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Marv,

> I spent the last 3 days fooling around with several ways to set my
> Windows 2000/FreeDOS machine set up with a multi-boot menu. I tried GAG,
> Grub4Dos, and the boot.ini file that Windows 2000 uses.

Many years ago I had the DOS/Win2000 combo working on a single drive
using our: https://www.bttr-software.de/products/bootmgr/
The key is to hide unneeded partitions from the other OS.
See screenshot #2.

Cheers,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread tom ehlert
Hallo Herr Marv,

the windows 2000 boot.ini should work

however it's complicated to advise when you keep this to yourself,
including the resulting error.

Tom



am Samstag, 14. November 2020 um 16:27 schrieben Sie:

> I spent the last 3 days fooling around with several ways to set my
> Windows 2000/FreeDOS machine set up with a multi-boot menu. I tried
> GAG, Grub4Dos, and the boot.ini file that Windows 2000 uses.

>  

> Windows 2000 is installed on the 1st hard drive, 1st partition and is my 
> primary/default system.

> FreeDOS is installed on the 2nd hard drive, 1st partition.

> Both operating systems boot and run ok if I swap drives in my BIOS, but 
> that’s a hassle.

>  

> GAG actually boots to FreeDOS ok one time each time I install it.
> Every time thereafter it boots to Windows 2000, instead of FreeDOS.
> I suspect the TSR program GAG uses to swap hard drives gets confused by 
> Windows 2000.

>  

> I did try installing  FreeDOS to a partition on the 1st drive to
> avoid the TSR swap program, but then I ended up with Windows NT
> issues trying to boot to FreeDOS. I don’t have any NT issues with
> GAG if FreeDOS is on my 2nd drive.

>  

> I don’t see much hope of getting Grub4Dos or Windows 2000’s
> boot.ini working with my configuration. Both methods keep getting tangled up 
> in Windows NT issues.

>  

> Does anyone have any thoughts or advice on setting up a multi-boot
> menu with my FreeDOS setup? At this point, I feel lucky that both
> operating systems still boot and run ok by swapping drives in my BIOS!








Hallo Herr FreeDOS.,




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Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread Tomas By
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:27:28 +0100, Marv wrote:
> Does anyone have any thoughts or advice on setting up a multi-boot menu with 
> my FreeDOS setup? At
> this point, I feel lucky that both operating systems still boot and run ok by 
> swapping drives in my BIOS!
 

Installing Linux last has always worked for me. I'm sure there is some
way to use only the boot loader (or whatever it is).

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[Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread Marv
I spent the last 3 days fooling around with several ways to set my Windows
2000/FreeDOS machine set up with a multi-boot menu. I tried GAG, Grub4Dos,
and the boot.ini file that Windows 2000 uses.



Windows 2000 is installed on the 1st hard drive, 1st partition and is my
primary/default system.

FreeDOS is installed on the 2nd hard drive, 1st partition.

Both operating systems boot and run ok if I swap drives in my BIOS, but
that’s a hassle.



GAG actually boots to FreeDOS ok one time each time I install it. Every
time thereafter it boots to Windows 2000, instead of FreeDOS. I suspect the
TSR program GAG uses to swap hard drives gets confused by Windows 2000.



I did try installing  FreeDOS to a partition on the 1st drive to avoid the
TSR swap program, but then I ended up with Windows NT issues trying to boot
to FreeDOS. I don’t have any NT issues with GAG if FreeDOS is on my 2nd
 drive.



I don’t see much hope of getting Grub4Dos or Windows 2000’s boot.ini
working with my configuration. Both methods keep getting tangled up in
Windows NT issues.



Does anyone have any thoughts or advice on setting up a multi-boot menu
with my FreeDOS setup? At this point, I feel lucky that both operating
systems still boot and run ok by swapping drives in my BIOS!



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