Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 3:54 PM Eric Auer  wrote:
>
> > Hi Eric I have partition magic for dos this can create partition for
> > freedos?
>
> I guess it can, given that it is a partition editor :-)
>
> I do not know whether the DOS version can create LBA
> partitions or FAT32 partitions, so if this is an old
> DOS software, it may be better to use modern tools
> such as GPARTED for Linux or something similar for
> Windows or maybe even a tool shipping with FreeDOS?

Just FYI, there's also SPfdisk that may behave differently ("better"??):

* https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/fdisk/spfdisk/

But I never used it much and don't remember the details. (I think it
had better access to SATA disks?? And at least a quick format
built-in. IIRC, sources were mostly in C.)


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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-14 Thread usul
I think I have managed to get both MSDos and Freedos though currently I
cannot boot into freedos

Trying to find a version of Linux that I like, I will probably pick Manjaro
XFCE, that seems to run the best on that laptop and have access to the
stuff I need/want
which is mostly Virtual Box, and Visual Studio Code

It still boots into MS Dos and Linux can see all the partitions
I plan to create a swap dir at the end of the free space and then install
linux into what is remaining.

I am hoping that it will see the other distros and install grub properly,
to boot into any of the goodness.

At the least I expect that it will do a dual boot with MSDos and Linux, and
I think I can massage grub to do the rest for me once I learn how.

Adam

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 3:54 PM Eric Auer  wrote:

> Hi Gabriele,
>
> > Hi Eric I have partition magic for dos this can create partition for
> > freedos?
>
> I guess it can, given that it is a partition editor :-)
>
> I do not know whether the DOS version can create LBA
> partitions or FAT32 partitions, so if this is an old
> DOS software, it may be better to use modern tools
> such as GPARTED for Linux or something similar for
> Windows or maybe even a tool shipping with FreeDOS?
>
> In any case, it should not make much difference for
> the multiboot question. For that, the trick will be
> to sort partitions in a way that each OS calls their
> own partition C: because the partitions of the other
> OS either are in formats not supported by the OS,
> for example FAT32 will be invisible to MS DOS 6.22,
> or are after the own partition of the OS. And you
> should make sure that installing one OS does not
> format or otherwise damage the partition of another.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-14 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Gabriele,


Hi Eric I have partition magic for dos this can create partition for
freedos?


I guess it can, given that it is a partition editor :-)

I do not know whether the DOS version can create LBA
partitions or FAT32 partitions, so if this is an old
DOS software, it may be better to use modern tools
such as GPARTED for Linux or something similar for
Windows or maybe even a tool shipping with FreeDOS?

In any case, it should not make much difference for
the multiboot question. For that, the trick will be
to sort partitions in a way that each OS calls their
own partition C: because the partitions of the other
OS either are in formats not supported by the OS,
for example FAT32 will be invisible to MS DOS 6.22,
or are after the own partition of the OS. And you
should make sure that installing one OS does not
format or otherwise damage the partition of another.

Regards, Eric




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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-14 Thread Gabriele Barbone
Hi Eric I have partition magic for dos this can create partition for
freedos?

Il gio 9 mar 2023, 23:08 Eric Auer  ha scritto:

>
> Hi!
>
> You could try metakern: FreeDOS SYS has command line options to write
> the boot sector to a file instead of to the boot sector. You can use
> either DEBUG or Linux or simple or fancy DOS tools of your choice to
> harvest the boot sectors of MS DOS and XP. If FreeDOS finds the file
> fdconfig.sys, it will use that and ignore config.sys, so you can tell
> FreeDOS to use a different command.com than MS DOS in the SHELL line,
> which you can also use to tell our freecom shell to use a different
> file instead of autoexec.bat :-)
>
> In short, you can use metakern as a boot menu to install FreeDOS and
> MS DOS on the SAME C: drive, both visible to each other. Of course
> it will take a bit of copying files around and making backups before
> one installer overwrites files of the other DOS, but as experienced
> DOS user, you can do it :-)
>
> You can also add XP to the equation if you manage to keep config
> files separate, but it is probably easier to install XP to a NTFS
> partition which both DOS versions will simply ignore. You can use
> for example your Linux boot manager to boot either Linux or XP or
> the DOS partition and then use metakern to boot either FreeDOS or
> MS DOS.
>
> Or even easier: Copy the harvested boot sectors of both MS DOS and
> FreeDOS to your Linux boot manager directory and manually add boot
> menu items for the two DOS versions directly to your Linux boot menu
> without using metakern.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
>
> > I and trying to get a multiboot setup
> >
> > 1. MSDOS 6.22 + Win 3.11
> > 2. FreeDos 1.3
> > 3. I was going to do XP but annoying so no...
> > 4. And a Older laptop friendly Linux that runs on XFCE...
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-13 Thread usul
I was looking at that.


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:55 PM Louis Santillan  wrote:

> Might I suggest you try Microwindows/Nano-X on DOS and Linux?
>
> http://www.microwindows.org/
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:41 AM usul  wrote:
>
>> I probably am that guy.  I couldn't post in groups on FB for a couple of
>> days.   and I am itching to do something. LOL.
>>
>> Thanks for the links...
>> As soon as I find a linux distro that I like that works on the laptop I
>> will start looking at them in more detail.
>>
>> I think it would be fun to write something that looks like Windows 3.11
>> maybe even be able to run apps written for it. DESQview/X  could run both
>> if I could get something going that
>>
>> I have always thought that if xserver and a wm/desktop could be ported
>> from linux to freedos that were small enough,
>> then perhaps others would port apps as well. beyond the standard
>> minefield, wordpad etc clones the other "desktops" like seal, opengem. etc.
>> with those they never seemed to catch on, and most of them barely
>> function when I run them.
>>
>> xvesa, wxwidgets, nano-x / microxwindows etc
>> I don't really know how all of the linux windowing system works yet.  And
>> really the last time I messed with linux, it was zipslack on jaz drives was
>> the thing.
>> I even have a copy of dragonlinux (the linux that installed on a dos
>> partition not a different partition)
>>
>> I still have a bunch of books in the closet for programming windows 3.11
>> and dos.
>> Never did much win 95 came out shortly (like a couple of years) after I
>> got started.
>>
>> I'll find something simpler freedos related to cut my dos programmer
>> teeth on.
>> Probably... :)
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:24 AM Liam Proven  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 15:18, usul  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Why? cause I always get asked...
>>>
>>> Ah, you are the same person who asked on the Facebook FreeDOS group?
>>>
>>> > Because I want to code some stuff for windows 3.11 last time I did I
>>> was working in VB 3 lol,
>>> > run XAppeal and DESQview/X 2.1 and cause if they can do it see If I
>>> can port a minimal xserver to FreeDos for fun. And I really don't want to
>>> do any of that in a VM.
>>>
>>> DESQview/X _is_ a minimal X server.
>>>
>>> There were other X servers for DOS, e.g.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/freedos-user/thread/4f0b8ad3.7050...@gmail.com/
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxmisc.com/4-linux/54d11736a319f7ae.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ms_dos_x_server_releases_from_hummingbird
>>>
>>> The DEC PATHWORKS client for DOS also included an X server.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/decnet/pathworks_DOS/AA-PAF5C-TK_Pathworks_for_DOS_Overview_V4.1_Aug91.pdf
>>>
>>>  You might be able to find a download of that out there somewhere. I
>>> think it was free if you owned the PATHWORKS server.
>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-13 Thread Louis Santillan
Might I suggest you try Microwindows/Nano-X on DOS and Linux?

http://www.microwindows.org/


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:41 AM usul  wrote:

> I probably am that guy.  I couldn't post in groups on FB for a couple of
> days.   and I am itching to do something. LOL.
>
> Thanks for the links...
> As soon as I find a linux distro that I like that works on the laptop I
> will start looking at them in more detail.
>
> I think it would be fun to write something that looks like Windows 3.11
> maybe even be able to run apps written for it. DESQview/X  could run both
> if I could get something going that
>
> I have always thought that if xserver and a wm/desktop could be ported
> from linux to freedos that were small enough,
> then perhaps others would port apps as well. beyond the standard
> minefield, wordpad etc clones the other "desktops" like seal, opengem. etc.
> with those they never seemed to catch on, and most of them barely
> function when I run them.
>
> xvesa, wxwidgets, nano-x / microxwindows etc
> I don't really know how all of the linux windowing system works yet.  And
> really the last time I messed with linux, it was zipslack on jaz drives was
> the thing.
> I even have a copy of dragonlinux (the linux that installed on a dos
> partition not a different partition)
>
> I still have a bunch of books in the closet for programming windows 3.11
> and dos.
> Never did much win 95 came out shortly (like a couple of years) after I
> got started.
>
> I'll find something simpler freedos related to cut my dos programmer teeth
> on.
> Probably... :)
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:24 AM Liam Proven  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 15:18, usul  wrote:
>> >
>> > Why? cause I always get asked...
>>
>> Ah, you are the same person who asked on the Facebook FreeDOS group?
>>
>> > Because I want to code some stuff for windows 3.11 last time I did I
>> was working in VB 3 lol,
>> > run XAppeal and DESQview/X 2.1 and cause if they can do it see If I can
>> port a minimal xserver to FreeDos for fun. And I really don't want to do
>> any of that in a VM.
>>
>> DESQview/X _is_ a minimal X server.
>>
>> There were other X servers for DOS, e.g.
>>
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/freedos-user/thread/4f0b8ad3.7050...@gmail.com/
>>
>> http://www.linuxmisc.com/4-linux/54d11736a319f7ae.htm
>>
>>
>> https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ms_dos_x_server_releases_from_hummingbird
>>
>> The DEC PATHWORKS client for DOS also included an X server.
>>
>>
>> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/decnet/pathworks_DOS/AA-PAF5C-TK_Pathworks_for_DOS_Overview_V4.1_Aug91.pdf
>>
>>  You might be able to find a download of that out there somewhere. I
>> think it was free if you owned the PATHWORKS server.
>>
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>> Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com
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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-13 Thread usul
I probably am that guy.  I couldn't post in groups on FB for a couple of
days.   and I am itching to do something. LOL.

Thanks for the links...
As soon as I find a linux distro that I like that works on the laptop I
will start looking at them in more detail.

I think it would be fun to write something that looks like Windows 3.11
maybe even be able to run apps written for it. DESQview/X  could run both
if I could get something going that

I have always thought that if xserver and a wm/desktop could be ported from
linux to freedos that were small enough,
then perhaps others would port apps as well. beyond the standard minefield,
wordpad etc clones the other "desktops" like seal, opengem. etc.
with those they never seemed to catch on, and most of them barely
function when I run them.

xvesa, wxwidgets, nano-x / microxwindows etc
I don't really know how all of the linux windowing system works yet.  And
really the last time I messed with linux, it was zipslack on jaz drives was
the thing.
I even have a copy of dragonlinux (the linux that installed on a dos
partition not a different partition)

I still have a bunch of books in the closet for programming windows 3.11
and dos.
Never did much win 95 came out shortly (like a couple of years) after I got
started.

I'll find something simpler freedos related to cut my dos programmer teeth
on.
Probably... :)

Adam










On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:24 AM Liam Proven  wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 15:18, usul  wrote:
> >
> > Why? cause I always get asked...
>
> Ah, you are the same person who asked on the Facebook FreeDOS group?
>
> > Because I want to code some stuff for windows 3.11 last time I did I was
> working in VB 3 lol,
> > run XAppeal and DESQview/X 2.1 and cause if they can do it see If I can
> port a minimal xserver to FreeDos for fun. And I really don't want to do
> any of that in a VM.
>
> DESQview/X _is_ a minimal X server.
>
> There were other X servers for DOS, e.g.
>
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/freedos-user/thread/4f0b8ad3.7050...@gmail.com/
>
> http://www.linuxmisc.com/4-linux/54d11736a319f7ae.htm
>
> https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ms_dos_x_server_releases_from_hummingbird
>
> The DEC PATHWORKS client for DOS also included an X server.
>
>
> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/decnet/pathworks_DOS/AA-PAF5C-TK_Pathworks_for_DOS_Overview_V4.1_Aug91.pdf
>
>  You might be able to find a download of that out there somewhere. I
> think it was free if you owned the PATHWORKS server.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-13 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 15:18, usul  wrote:
>
> Why? cause I always get asked...

Ah, you are the same person who asked on the Facebook FreeDOS group?

> Because I want to code some stuff for windows 3.11 last time I did I was 
> working in VB 3 lol,
> run XAppeal and DESQview/X 2.1 and cause if they can do it see If I can port 
> a minimal xserver to FreeDos for fun. And I really don't want to do any of 
> that in a VM.

DESQview/X _is_ a minimal X server.

There were other X servers for DOS, e.g.

https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/freedos-user/thread/4f0b8ad3.7050...@gmail.com/

http://www.linuxmisc.com/4-linux/54d11736a319f7ae.htm

https://techmonitor.ai/technology/ms_dos_x_server_releases_from_hummingbird

The DEC PATHWORKS client for DOS also included an X server.

http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/decnet/pathworks_DOS/AA-PAF5C-TK_Pathworks_for_DOS_Overview_V4.1_Aug91.pdf

 You might be able to find a download of that out there somewhere. I
think it was free if you owned the PATHWORKS server.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-09 Thread Eric Auer



Hi!

Let me get a bit more verbose in my installation thoughts.

If you want to hide FreeDOS and MS DOS from each other,
at least a bit, you could use filesystem choice for that:

Install Linux on a Linux filesystem.
Install XP on some NTFS filesystem.
Install FreeDOS on a FAT32 filesystem.
Install MS DOS on a FAT16 filesystem.

By putting them in an appropriate order, XP can be C: while
it sees the other 2 DOS versions as D: and E: and FreeDOS
can be C: while seeing MS DOS as D: and last but not least
MS DOS can be C: while not using any other partitions.

Be aware that MS DOS can only use CHS partitions within
the first 8 GB of the drive.

Regarding the boot menu question, you can manually edit
the GRUB menu.lst file after letting whatever automatic
menu.lst generation offered by your Linux distro create
entries for Linux, XP and MS DOS. This would let you
add a FreeDOS entry when MS DOS and FreeDOS share the
same partition. For that, you would manually run the
FreeDOS SYS, after booting MS DOS, in the special style

SYS C: freedos.bin bootonly

this will create a freedos.bin boot sector file. You
then copy the menu.lst section about MS DOS, but edit
the "chainloader +1" line and make that something like
"chainloader (hd0,1)/freedos.bin" if (hd0,1) would be
your MS DOS partition.

But given that you want 4 separate partitions for your
4 operating systems anyway, you can let the automatic
menu.lst generation of GRUB do EVERYTHING, without the
need for special SYS commands or manual menu.lst edits
if you make sure that the 4 partitions all use different
filesystem types :-)

I recommend that you start by installing XP, because it
is more likely to damage existing installs of other OS.

Next, install Linux. Depending on the distro, it will
provide a wizard to install a dual-boot which keeps XP
working and gives you a boot menu.

Add one FAT32 and one FAT16 primary partition either
during this step or later, using a graphical Linux
partitioning and formatting tool such as GPARTED.

Boot MS DOS from a floppy or similar and install it
manually to the FAT16 partition, without formatting
or partitioning anything. Maybe you just use a boot
disk and run SYS and copy some files, instead of
running some automated installer at that point.

Take similar steps for FreeDOS. I am not sure whether
it will automatically skip formatting and partitioning,
but do make sure to skip those. Also, make sure that
your FAT32 partition is before the FAT16 one. That way
the FAT32 partition will be C: and the MS DOS FAT16
partition will be D: for FreeDOS, while MS DOS will
only see the FAT16 partition and call it C: :-)

Boot Linux and let the GRUB menu.lst generator tool do
magic to add menu entries for the two DOS partitions.

I expect all DOS systems to require extra tricks if
their boot partition is not a primary partition, but
you can only have 4 primary partitions in total, or 3
if you also need additional non-primary partitions.

In the latter case, I think you can boot at least
Linux from non-primary partitions. Not sure about
XP. You may have to tell Linux to install GRUB in
the MBR, not in the boot sector of your Linux boot
partition, for this to work.

Regards, Eric




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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-09 Thread usul
I am no longer an experienced DOS user. I am relearning. And only
understood half of what you said. Guess I have gotten old and lazy.
and even back in the day I just went right to windows, to work in VB 3. I
think 95 came out a year after I really got my start.

 Plus I really want them to be separate.

I wish I knew how to do grub better but that xFDisk seems like it would do
the trick.
I have GParted and could use that to do all the Partitioning and hiding but
I don't see that it has a way to install
and setup grub,

Unless someone says there are issues with xFDisk I'll try that. Worst thing
that could happen is that I have to start over again.

Adam


On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 4:07 PM Eric Auer  wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> You could try metakern: FreeDOS SYS has command line options to write
> the boot sector to a file instead of to the boot sector. You can use
> either DEBUG or Linux or simple or fancy DOS tools of your choice to
> harvest the boot sectors of MS DOS and XP. If FreeDOS finds the file
> fdconfig.sys, it will use that and ignore config.sys, so you can tell
> FreeDOS to use a different command.com than MS DOS in the SHELL line,
> which you can also use to tell our freecom shell to use a different
> file instead of autoexec.bat :-)
>
> In short, you can use metakern as a boot menu to install FreeDOS and
> MS DOS on the SAME C: drive, both visible to each other. Of course
> it will take a bit of copying files around and making backups before
> one installer overwrites files of the other DOS, but as experienced
> DOS user, you can do it :-)
>
> You can also add XP to the equation if you manage to keep config
> files separate, but it is probably easier to install XP to a NTFS
> partition which both DOS versions will simply ignore. You can use
> for example your Linux boot manager to boot either Linux or XP or
> the DOS partition and then use metakern to boot either FreeDOS or
> MS DOS.
>
> Or even easier: Copy the harvested boot sectors of both MS DOS and
> FreeDOS to your Linux boot manager directory and manually add boot
> menu items for the two DOS versions directly to your Linux boot menu
> without using metakern.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
>
> > I and trying to get a multiboot setup
> >
> > 1. MSDOS 6.22 + Win 3.11
> > 2. FreeDos 1.3
> > 3. I was going to do XP but annoying so no...
> > 4. And a Older laptop friendly Linux that runs on XFCE...
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-09 Thread Eric Auer



Hi!

You could try metakern: FreeDOS SYS has command line options to write
the boot sector to a file instead of to the boot sector. You can use
either DEBUG or Linux or simple or fancy DOS tools of your choice to
harvest the boot sectors of MS DOS and XP. If FreeDOS finds the file
fdconfig.sys, it will use that and ignore config.sys, so you can tell
FreeDOS to use a different command.com than MS DOS in the SHELL line,
which you can also use to tell our freecom shell to use a different
file instead of autoexec.bat :-)

In short, you can use metakern as a boot menu to install FreeDOS and
MS DOS on the SAME C: drive, both visible to each other. Of course
it will take a bit of copying files around and making backups before
one installer overwrites files of the other DOS, but as experienced
DOS user, you can do it :-)

You can also add XP to the equation if you manage to keep config
files separate, but it is probably easier to install XP to a NTFS
partition which both DOS versions will simply ignore. You can use
for example your Linux boot manager to boot either Linux or XP or
the DOS partition and then use metakern to boot either FreeDOS or
MS DOS.

Or even easier: Copy the harvested boot sectors of both MS DOS and
FreeDOS to your Linux boot manager directory and manually add boot
menu items for the two DOS versions directly to your Linux boot menu
without using metakern.

Regards, Eric




I and trying to get a multiboot setup

1. MSDOS 6.22 + Win 3.11
2. FreeDos 1.3
3. I was going to do XP but annoying so no...
4. And a Older laptop friendly Linux that runs on XFCE...






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[Freedos-user] Question about xFDisk and a multiboot setup

2023-03-09 Thread usul
Was there a reason this doesn't seem to be included on the usb installer
(if it is I can't find it)

I and trying to get a multiboot setup


   1. MSDOS 6.22 + Win 3.11
   2. FreeDos 1.3
   3. I was going to do XP but annoying so no. (it dumped on drive "E",
   getting networking and drivers was a damn pain so bleh I won't be using it
   much anyway.
   4. And a Older laptop friendly Linux that runs on XFCE and
   https://b00merang.weebly.com/windows-311.html

This is going on a Dell Latitude D520
And when I go to install  FreeDos on a partition from the USB Installer iso.
It really, really  wants to overwrite the MSDOS

So I was thinking that I could..

Install MSDOS
Boot with FreeDos, run xFdisk , mark the msdos drive as hidden, and install
a bootloader
like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvI8Q0uaihI=7s_channel=i80386sx

But if it wasn't added I am wondering if it is bad, or just not maintained.
I might be able to do this with the live gparted CD, but I have never
installed grub manually before.

So maybe I do the
MSDOS install
Create and format a partition for FreeDos
Install Linux
and fix the grub to then do freedos

Why? cause I always get asked...

Because I want to code some stuff for windows 3.11 last time I did I
was working in VB 3 lol,
run XAppeal and DESQview/X 2.1 and cause if they can do it see If I can
port a minimal xserver to FreeDos for fun. And I really don't want to do
any of that in a VM.

Adam
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