Re: [Freedos-user] Which DOS is "better/best" as the underlying DOS oper. sys. for Win FW 3.1.1. in a mult-boot PC ?
I’m not nearly as knowledgeable as the others who have responds but from what I’ve heard and experienced, Windows 3.11 for Workgroups works quite well with MS-DOS 6.22. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 1, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi there, > Interesting question. > Is there a reason why, if you intend running windows 3.11, that you do not > want to use the MS dos closely associated with that windows at the time? 5.0 > 6.0, or 6.22? > My guess about ms dos 7.1 is that it draws from a much later infrastructure. > I run that edition of DOS, but I do not use windows in any form. > Just starting the conversation, > Karen > > > >> On Sun, 1 Nov 2020, TheBigBlue Guard wrote: >> >> Hello FreeDOSers, >> >> How was your Halloween ? Mine was okay... No tricks yet ! >> >> My Q and Problem : >> >> I understand you need a DOS oper sys underlying Win For Workgroups 3.1.1 OS >> in a mult-boot native environment (no boxes / no emulators).Which DOS >> OS do you strongly recommend ? and why ? I have MS-DOS 7.1 install CD and >> was told NOT to rely on it for Win FW 3.1.1. - is this accurate and correct >> ? Can you use FreeDOS as the underlying OS ? >> >> Big Blue >> > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Which DOS is "better/best" as the underlying DOS oper. sys. for Win FW 3.1.1. in a mult-boot PC ?
Hi there, Interesting question. Is there a reason why, if you intend running windows 3.11, that you do not want to use the MS dos closely associated with that windows at the time? 5.0 6.0, or 6.22? My guess about ms dos 7.1 is that it draws from a much later infrastructure. I run that edition of DOS, but I do not use windows in any form. Just starting the conversation, Karen On Sun, 1 Nov 2020, TheBigBlue Guard wrote: Hello FreeDOSers, How was your Halloween ? Mine was okay... No tricks yet ! My Q and Problem : I understand you need a DOS oper sys underlying Win For Workgroups 3.1.1 OS in a mult-boot native environment (no boxes / no emulators).Which DOS OS do you strongly recommend ? and why ? I have MS-DOS 7.1 install CD and was told NOT to rely on it for Win FW 3.1.1. - is this accurate and correct ? Can you use FreeDOS as the underlying OS ? Big Blue ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Which DOS is "better/best" as the underlying DOS oper. sys. for Win FW 3.1.1. in a mult-boot PC ?
Hey! Windows for Workgroups always runs in 386enhanced mode, unless you run it in what Win95/Win98 called safe mode and which has limited features. This mode is VERY picky about interactions with DOS, as it moves the running DOS into a virtual task and even is able to clone it when you open multiple DOS windows. If you can run your apps in classic Windows 3.0 or 3.1, without 386enh mode, you can do that with FreeDOS. But if you want to run WfW 3.11, you will have to spend a LOT of effort to convince DOS and Windows to cooperate. You could find verbose discussions of the issue online, but http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Windows is unfortunately not what you need. By "a lot of effort" I mean "brave people have been able to run it for them at some time in the past". This is not the type of feature which works with a fixed howto, alas. What you call MS DOS 7.1 is the built-in DOS of Windows 95 or Windows 98. So if you have that, simply use your Windows 9x without bothering to replace the DOS. But if you want exactly WfW 3.11, you should use older versions of MS DOS or PC DOS or similar, those without FAT32 and without long file names, because WfW does not understand those and you would have to explicitly tell it to only access files through DOS and not directly. You could probably also use DR DOS. In any case, it will be necessary to make careful driver choices - maybe even use those shipped with WfW, which in turn leads to the problem that old MS HIMEM or EMM386 know very little about modern hardware. An obvious way to avoid the whole mess completely would be to run your Windows apps in Wine in Linux. Both Wine and Linux are free and you can tell Wine to pretend to be ANY Windows version from Windows 2.0 to Windows 10 :-) Note that dosemu2, also available for Linux (but planned to be available for Windows, too) makes it easier to use Windows and FreeDOS together even in advanced situations, because dosemu2 already does some of the protected mode work, which makes Windows relax and be a bit less picky. I hope this helps :-) And I am curious what your Wfw 3.11 apps and context are at the moment. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Which DOS is "better/best" as the underlying DOS oper. sys. for Win FW 3.1.1. in a mult-boot PC ?
A simple google search gives you an answer. Search for windows 3.1 freedos in Google. Presto: http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Windows On 2-11-20 00:28, TheBigBlue Guard wrote: Hello FreeDOSers, How was your Halloween ? Mine was okay... No tricks yet ! My Q and Problem : I understand you need a DOS oper sys underlying Win For Workgroups 3.1.1 OS in a mult-boot native environment (no boxes / no emulators).Which DOS OS do you strongly recommend ? and why ? I have MS-DOS 7.1 install CD and was told NOT to rely on it for Win FW 3.1.1. - is this accurate and correct ? Can you use FreeDOS as the underlying OS ? Big Blue ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Which DOS is "better/best" as the underlying DOS oper. sys. for Win FW 3.1.1. in a mult-boot PC ?
Hello FreeDOSers, How was your Halloween ? Mine was okay... No tricks yet ! My Q and Problem : I understand you need a DOS oper sys underlying Win For Workgroups 3.1.1 OS in a mult-boot native environment (no boxes / no emulators).Which DOS OS do you strongly recommend ? and why ? I have MS-DOS 7.1 install CD and was told NOT to rely on it for Win FW 3.1.1. - is this accurate and correct ? Can you use FreeDOS as the underlying OS ? Big Blue ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
