Re: [Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?
Hi! a few years back, before the Pandemic, we had a serious Shellworld crash. At the time I sought to contact them, did not reach a person, however. Likewise at the time, I believe? they did not allow mail to be sent. it has been a few years. If you use a Linux mail client to access your gmail from a shell, then the mail itself will still be stored and sent by google, not directly from your shell account. Note that this only works with mail providers which support imap and smtp and with clients which support the security protocols required by the providers. For some mail providers, one first had to enable imap etc. access using a menu item on their webmail portals. GMX & web.de are two mail providers having that issue as far as I remember. Regards, Eric PS: The older POP3 only allowed access to the inbox, while IMAP also allows access to your other mail folders, so I expect most mail providers to support IMAP now. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?
Hi, a few years back, before the Pandemic, we had a serious Shellworld crash. At the time I sought to contact them, did not reach a person, however. Likewise at the time, I believe? they did not allow mail to be sent. it has been a few years. Will try to contact them once more, even if all they do is give me a place for my gmail content, one to use for forwarding, and a replacement for those communications, it will be worth the extra anything. With appreciation, Karen L On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Michael Brutman via Freedos-user wrote: It's difficult to follow all of the details of the discussion. Have you ever looked at getting a shell account on sdf.org? It still supports plain old Telnet I think it comes with an email address. They support POP3 and IMAP access to the email too. Links and Lynx are available there when using Telnet, but it doesn't look like either have Javascript enabled. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?
It's difficult to follow all of the details of the discussion. Have you ever looked at getting a shell account on sdf.org? It still supports plain old Telnet I think it comes with an email address. They support POP3 and IMAP access to the email too. Links and Lynx are available there when using Telnet, but it doesn't look like either have Javascript enabled. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?
Hi, When the individual setting up my test actually checked the send button, he documented that it is not coded correctly likely why it appears three different ways in different browsers. I am not using the editor provided by roundcube to compose, instead my editor is set as a part of each browser in their own configuration files, pico in all three cases. Therefore when i reached the edit box say to compose a message, I simply used the command to start my own editor. Speaking personally, what roundcube does does not mean other webmail programs will create the send button the same. JavaScript is a Language, and as I shared normally even Lynx can submit such buttons using a keystroke that is part of the more current editions, 2021 or later. So, it can certainly be fixed, if a human can be reached. Forum uses image captcha to register though. On Fri, 24 Nov 2023, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote: Hi! Thanks for your roundcube webmail tests! Both interesting and annoying that most features work with most text based browsers - except sending mail, due to JS in the send button! Anyone at all know if roundcube has a support team? This tool could be amazing with some slight JavaScript fixes. https://roundcube.net/support/ lists a community forum, bug tracker, several mailing lists (probably not what you need) and an IRC chat. The bug tracker, forum and chat should help you. A quick search in the forum suggests that roundcube used an editor called tinymce to compose mails, I wonder if it would be possible to switch off the editor to be able to write mails with less javascript usage? It may help to switch to text-only instead of HTML mail composition, if there is an option which lets you choose. There is an interactive drop down menu to edit either in HTML or plain text, but I guess that uses a script, too? User preferences or configuration should have an option compose HTML messages, choices always / never or similar. Related keywords may include HTML editor or rich text. https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/5937 "Send a reply and archive in one action button" is vaguely related because whoever addresses that feature request will also know how send buttons are to be processed. Trying to find an answer on roundcubeforum.net I got the impression that people did not get answers at all when their questions were not specific/detailed enough. Sometimes people report that send mail button does not do anything and got the reply that the roundcube server was misconfigured. I guess this can be excluded in your case and you have tested that sending DOES work okay if a fully javascript enabled web browser is used? Some skins (graphical look and feel choices) appear to have send buttons arranged in different ways. Sometimes there is more than one send button visible at the same time, with the extra buttons using javascript to "press" the main button, if I read correctly between the lines. There also seems to be the issue that TAB switches to the next form field or button (for example send) which annoys people who want to type TAB as part of a mail. If roundcube manipulates this, it may affect usability. https://www.roundcubeforum.net/index.php/topic,29737.msg75552.html has somebody find out that their browser plugins interfere with whether the send button works. Not helpful for your problem, but suggests that this button indeed contains more complexity than necessary in some way. I am probably not very good in navigating advanced search in forum or bug list. Maybe asking on IRC works better? Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?
Hi! Thanks for your roundcube webmail tests! Both interesting and annoying that most features work with most text based browsers - except sending mail, due to JS in the send button! Anyone at all know if roundcube has a support team? This tool could be amazing with some slight JavaScript fixes. https://roundcube.net/support/ lists a community forum, bug tracker, several mailing lists (probably not what you need) and an IRC chat. The bug tracker, forum and chat should help you. A quick search in the forum suggests that roundcube used an editor called tinymce to compose mails, I wonder if it would be possible to switch off the editor to be able to write mails with less javascript usage? It may help to switch to text-only instead of HTML mail composition, if there is an option which lets you choose. There is an interactive drop down menu to edit either in HTML or plain text, but I guess that uses a script, too? User preferences or configuration should have an option compose HTML messages, choices always / never or similar. Related keywords may include HTML editor or rich text. https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/5937 "Send a reply and archive in one action button" is vaguely related because whoever addresses that feature request will also know how send buttons are to be processed. Trying to find an answer on roundcubeforum.net I got the impression that people did not get answers at all when their questions were not specific/detailed enough. Sometimes people report that send mail button does not do anything and got the reply that the roundcube server was misconfigured. I guess this can be excluded in your case and you have tested that sending DOES work okay if a fully javascript enabled web browser is used? Some skins (graphical look and feel choices) appear to have send buttons arranged in different ways. Sometimes there is more than one send button visible at the same time, with the extra buttons using javascript to "press" the main button, if I read correctly between the lines. There also seems to be the issue that TAB switches to the next form field or button (for example send) which annoys people who want to type TAB as part of a mail. If roundcube manipulates this, it may affect usability. https://www.roundcubeforum.net/index.php/topic,29737.msg75552.html has somebody find out that their browser plugins interfere with whether the send button works. Not helpful for your problem, but suggests that this button indeed contains more complexity than necessary in some way. I am probably not very good in navigating advanced search in forum or bug list. Maybe asking on IRC works better? Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] roundcube, is freedos, or dos based mail clients?
Hi folks, reporting back as a member of the greater Toronto Linux users group likes playing..allot, with mailbox configuration, hosting his own. As he uses roundcube, he created a way for me to text, creating an account and so forth. because the link was simple I could test in lynx, in links, and in elinks, as compiled here at shellworld. almost everything worked..perfectly. The thing that does not, is frankly a sloppy crying shame. I could log in, reach my inbox area, choose to check my inbox and get correct information, compose an email, including editing the email body..everything but actually send the email itself. That is because the send button has been JavaScript coded to be disabled from the keyboard. Lynx has a keystroke that allows you to submit these buttons anyway, if coded correctly. led me to a 510 server error. As I upped the JavaScript friendliness, links and elinks can be compiled for it, I discovered the problem. the send button is actually java script coded to be harmless..I am serious. There is a rule in the web content access guidelines for this, stating that all JavaScript must work from the keyboard. Basic reason? those who cannot lift or point a mouse, including those embodying paraplegia. even voice browsers draw upon a form of html, simulate that submit button using enter key infrastructure. Anyone at all know if roundcube has a support team? This tool could be amazing with some slight JavaScript fixes. Thanks, Karen ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user