Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

[Marv]

Thanks - yes, I thought I would keep and use the smaller installation
partition for recovery and future :) upgrades. It's not in the way of
anything.

I'll look into EtherDFS today. My main computer runs on Windows 10, which
is always a challenge with sharing/permission rights due to builtin
security. The others all run some type of Linux, which is easy to network.

Marv


On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:

>
>
> On Nov 12, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Marv  wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>
>
> I copied everything on the FreeDos 1.3 Live CD over to the 1GB partition
> using Windows 2000. Then I disconnected the new drive with Windows 2000 and
> made the old 4.3GB drive the master.
>
>
>
> Next, I rebooted to the Windows Live CD without installing anything. At
> that point, I removed the CD and changed over to the 1GB partition [D:]
> with the copy of the Live CD and executed setup.bat, which installed
> FreeDos in the empty 3.3GB partition [C:].
>
>
>
> The installation completed and rebooted to the new installation of FreeDos
> without any complaints. Needless to say, FreeDos doesn’t recognize the CD
> drive or the USB port, but that was no surprise, since I couldn’t use them
> for the installation, either.
>
>
> That is very similar to the dual disk and OEM style install I demonstrated
> for 1.2.
>
> Basically, the OEM style version had a complete copy sitting on a
> partition. That booted and installed 1.2 to a new partition. The installer
> activated that new partition during installation. Subsequent boots went
> straight to the users installed partition. However, this also has two
> interesting effects. First, it leaves the CD contents on the other
> partition and the user can easily install or remove packages. Also,
> provides a recovery partition to reinstall the OS.
>
>
> [..]
>
>
> If your networking driver is working, consider trying EtherDFS. It’s works
> pretty good for transferring files to/from DOS and a Linux server.
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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Marv  wrote:
> [...]
>  
> I copied everything on the FreeDos 1.3 Live CD over to the 1GB partition 
> using Windows 2000. Then I disconnected the new drive with Windows 2000 and 
> made the old 4.3GB drive the master.
>  
> Next, I rebooted to the Windows Live CD without installing anything. At that 
> point, I removed the CD and changed over to the 1GB partition [D:] with the 
> copy of the Live CD and executed setup.bat, which installed FreeDos in the 
> empty 3.3GB partition [C:].
>  
> The installation completed and rebooted to the new installation of FreeDos 
> without any complaints. Needless to say, FreeDos doesn’t recognize the CD 
> drive or the USB port, but that was no surprise, since I couldn’t use them 
> for the installation, either.

That is very similar to the dual disk and OEM style install I demonstrated for 
1.2.

Basically, the OEM style version had a complete copy sitting on a partition. 
That booted and installed 1.2 to a new partition. The installer activated that 
new partition during installation. Subsequent boots went straight to the users 
installed partition. However, this also has two interesting effects. First, it 
leaves the CD contents on the other partition and the user can easily install 
or remove packages. Also, provides a recovery partition to reinstall the OS.


>> [..] 

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 07:01:07PM -0500, Marv wrote:

> I did order an external USB floppy to make it easier to trade small files
> with my other computers.
> 
> And the best news is my LAN came up first try!

So won't it be more comfortable to share these files using network?
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Thought I'd share my experience getting FreeDos working on my "new"
machine. None of the official FreeDos installation methods liked its CD
drive, and its USB port wasn’t bootable, so I had to find another way to
install FreeDos. This is what worked for me. I’m sure there are other and
possibly better ways.



The Pentium II machine I had bought had a nice installation of Windows 2000
Pro that I didn’t want to lose, but it only had a 4.3GB drive.  I bought
another larger IDE drive and moved Windows 2000 over to the new drive. Then
I repartitioned the original drive into (2) FAT32 partitions, a 1GB and a
3.3GB.



I copied everything on the FreeDos 1.3 Live CD over to the 1GB partition
using Windows 2000. Then I disconnected the new drive with Windows 2000 and
made the old 4.3GB drive the master.



Next, I rebooted to the Windows Live CD without installing anything. At
that point, I removed the CD and changed over to the 1GB partition [D:]
with the copy of the Live CD and executed setup.bat, which installed
FreeDos in the empty 3.3GB partition [C:].



The installation completed and rebooted to the new installation of FreeDos
without any complaints. Needless to say, FreeDos doesn’t recognize the CD
drive or the USB port, but that was no surprise, since I couldn’t use them
for the installation, either.



For now, I have to boot into Windows 2000 to get files in and out of my
FreeDos partition. It has a floppy, but none of my other computers have
one. At present, I’m going into the BIOS and changing my boot drive, which
is a bit of a hassle.



In my long-ago experience, these computers were prone to corrupting the
BIOS with too many changes. Eventually, I’ll setup some type of MBR menu. I
did order an external USB floppy to make it easier to trade small files
with my other computers.



And the best news is my LAN came up first try!



On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 12:59 PM Ralf Quint  wrote:

> On 11/11/2020 9:10 AM, Marv wrote:
>
> Ralf - I gave up on that motherboard with the onboard PCIe Realtek network
> adapter and picked up a circa 1999 Intel Pentium II machine with (2)
> Adaptec ANA-6911 PCI network adapter boards. I'm pretty sure I found the
> right NDIS drivers for them. It also has a spare ISA slot, so I have that
> option, too. I'm hoping to install FreeDos on it later today.
>
> Well, that sounds a bit like "from fire into the pan"... ;-)
>
> Would have to take a look at what those cards actually are to see what
> kind of driver they would use.
>
> One thing that should generally be kept in mind is that DOS (any DOS)
> predates the widespread use of (TCP)IP networking. In it's "networking
> heydays", DOS machines were usually networking using other protocols (and
> hardware infrastructure!) like IPX, SPX and a lot more proprietary
> protocols. IP networking didn't really become a thing until the early '90s,
> and by that time, Windows had take over and pretty much all hardware
> manufacturers saw DOS driver support (not only for NICs!) just as an after
> thought.
>
> So usually pre 2000 NICs are fairly well supported and should be the first
> choice when using both real iron or a VM. NE2000, 3C905, RTL8129, RTL8139,
> those are commonly among the well supported cards.
>
> Anything pretty much made past 2000, it becomes a real hit and miss, first
> because manufacture tried to take advantage of the much higher CPU power to
> offload some of the workload from their hardware and implement at least
> some functionality in software (the infamous "WinModems", but also NICs,
> disk controllers,...), while much newer products try to utilize
> technologies that in general not "real mode DOS" friendly anymore, like
> PCIe and other fluff. Even USB is basically a royal pain in the posterior...
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

[Ralf Quint]

On 11/11/2020 9:10 AM, Marv wrote:
Ralf - I gave up on that motherboard with the onboard PCIe Realtek 
network adapter and picked up a circa 1999 Intel Pentium II machine 
with (2) Adaptec ANA-6911 PCI network adapter boards. I'm pretty sure 
I found the right NDIS drivers for them. It also has a spare ISA slot, 
so I have that option, too. I'm hoping to install FreeDos on it later 
today.

Well, that sounds a bit like "from fire into the pan"... ;-)

Would have to take a look at what those cards actually are to see what 
kind of driver they would use.


One thing that should generally be kept in mind is that DOS (any DOS) 
predates the widespread use of (TCP)IP networking. In it's "networking 
heydays", DOS machines were usually networking using other protocols 
(and hardware infrastructure!) like IPX, SPX and a lot more proprietary 
protocols. IP networking didn't really become a thing until the early 
'90s, and by that time, Windows had take over and pretty much all 
hardware manufacturers saw DOS driver support (not only for NICs!) just 
as an after thought.


So usually pre 2000 NICs are fairly well supported and should be the 
first choice when using both real iron or a VM. NE2000, 3C905, RTL8129, 
RTL8139, those are commonly among the well supported cards.


Anything pretty much made past 2000, it becomes a real hit and miss, 
first because manufacture tried to take advantage of the much higher CPU 
power to offload some of the workload from their hardware and implement 
at least some functionality in software (the infamous "WinModems", but 
also NICs, disk controllers,...), while much newer products try to 
utilize technologies that in general not "real mode DOS" friendly 
anymore, like PCIe and other fluff. Even USB is basically a royal pain 
in the posterior...


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[ZB]

Maybe "generic" NE2000 packet driver will do (I mean FreeDOS)?

Something like this:

 
https://dos.retro.software/downloads/download/300-ne2000-compatible-nic-drivers/1470-ne2000-packet-driver

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Ralf - I gave up on that motherboard with the onboard PCIe Realtek network
adapter and picked up a circa 1999 Intel Pentium II machine with (2)
Adaptec ANA-6911 PCI network adapter boards. I'm pretty sure I found the
right NDIS drivers for them. It also has a spare ISA slot, so I have that
option, too. I'm hoping to install FreeDos on it later today.


On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 11:50 AM Ralf Quint  wrote:

> On 11/9/2020 7:35 AM, Marv wrote:
>
>
> I assume rtl8139 is a generic virtual driver and is the only choice for a
> virtual Realtek adapter. My actual network adapter identifies as a
> rtl8111/8168B. but says 8111GR on the chip. I realize my virtual
> installation isn't going to use my physical network board.
>
> Can anyone give me some direction on this?
>
> Well, at this point in time, unfortunately not really.
>
> Just one note, a RTL8139 is a real hardware based 100MBit NIC chip, while
> the RTL8111 is one of those "hybrid" hardware/software chips. So a 8139
> driver certainly will NOT work on an 8111. Don't recall right now what
> exactly a 8168, my guess is that if it is mentioned together with the 8111
> in that driver that you tried, it is a dumbified RTL8169, which is a
> hardware based chip.
>
> Realtek unfortunately seemed to have "cleaned up" their download sections
> and removed anything pre-Windows 7. They are also only the (fab-less)
> manufacturer of the actual NIC chips, they do not make any actual NIC
> boards (or any motherboards for that matter). So a chance trying to find
> any Realtek driver for DOS might be better done by roaming the actual board
> manufacturers sites, as they might still have access to Realtek's
> "internal/OEM" software library.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

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On 11/9/2020 7:35 AM, Marv wrote:


I assume rtl8139 is a generic virtual driver and is the only choice 
for a virtual Realtek adapter. My actual network adapter identifies as 
a rtl8111/8168B. but says 8111GR on the chip. I realize my virtual 
installation isn't going to use my physical network board.


Can anyone give me some direction on this?


Well, at this point in time, unfortunately not really.

Just one note, a RTL8139 is a real hardware based 100MBit NIC chip, 
while the RTL8111 is one of those "hybrid" hardware/software chips. So a 
8139 driver certainly will NOT work on an 8111. Don't recall right now 
what exactly a 8168, my guess is that if it is mentioned together with 
the 8111 in that driver that you tried, it is a dumbified RTL8169, which 
is a hardware based chip.


Realtek unfortunately seemed to have "cleaned up" their download 
sections and removed anything pre-Windows 7. They are also only the 
(fab-less) manufacturer of the actual NIC chips, they do not make any 
actual NIC boards (or any motherboards for that matter). So a chance 
trying to find any Realtek driver for DOS might be better done by 
roaming the actual board manufacturers sites, as they might still have 
access to Realtek's "internal/OEM" software library.


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My ongoing saga of trying to get networking up on FreeDos - I decided to
install Linux Mint and QEMU on the machine. Then I did a virtual
installation of FreeDos under QEMU. All went ok, and I can run FreeDos
virtual just fine. Next, I tried to set up networking on my virtual FreeDos
using the same NDIS setup and files that loaded ok under a freestanding
installation of FreeDos. That was the NDIS setup that loaded ok without any
errors but wouldn't communicate with my network.

I expected it to at least load ok using my virtual installation of FreeDos,
but the network section of the boot gets an error saying it can't find my
network adapter. I'm not very familiar with QEMU or running any virtual
machine for that matter, but it didn't take too long to realize I needed to
create a network card. My full command to boot my virtual FreeDos under
Qemu is:

qemu-system-i386 -fda a.fd -hda c.hd -drive file=fat:rw:dos_folder -net
nic,model=rtl8139

I don't get any complaints from QEMU about the -net part of the command.

But it still gets the same error during boot "No Ethernet PCI Adapter
Found", "Ethernet Adapter driver (V1.54) [2019/05/15] installation failed",
"Serious internal error", "Hit any key to continue..."

It does go ahead and boot the rest of the way up. It installed PROTMAN,
RTGND, AND DIS_PKT9 modules, but of course, Netbind was unable to bind.

I assume rtl8139 is a generic virtual driver and is the only choice for a
virtual Realtek adapter. My actual network adapter identifies as a
rtl8111/8168B. but says 8111GR on the chip. I realize my virtual
installation isn't going to use my physical network board.

Can anyone give me some direction on this?




On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 4:26 AM Thomas Mueller  wrote:

> > > Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
> > > can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
> > > doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to get the
> onboard network adapter to work.
>
> > Realtek 8139 has NDIS drivers, E1000 both packet and NDIS
>
> > there are a couple of other cards with NDIS drivers
>
> If the motherboard supports PXE boot, might it be possible to boot by PXE
> and use (Free)DOS partition as root?  Would the BIOS (or UEFI?) then enable
> FreeDOS to recognize the Ethernet connection?
>
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Looking at my BIOS settings, it looks like this board does support PXE
boot. I'm not familiar with PXE, so I'll have to read up on it. I had also
thought about installing Linux and FreeDos in separate partitions with a
dual boot and seeing if that might solve my network issue under FreeDos.


On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 4:26 AM Thomas Mueller  wrote:

> > > Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
> > > can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
> > > doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to get the
> onboard network adapter to work.
>
> > Realtek 8139 has NDIS drivers, E1000 both packet and NDIS
>
> > there are a couple of other cards with NDIS drivers
>
> If the motherboard supports PXE boot, might it be possible to boot by PXE
> and use (Free)DOS partition as root?  Would the BIOS (or UEFI?) then enable
> FreeDOS to recognize the Ethernet connection?
>
> Tom
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[Thomas Mueller]

> > Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
> > can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
> > doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to get the onboard 
> > network adapter to work.

> Realtek 8139 has NDIS drivers, E1000 both packet and NDIS

> there are a couple of other cards with NDIS drivers

If the motherboard supports PXE boot, might it be possible to boot by PXE and 
use (Free)DOS partition as root?  Would the BIOS (or UEFI?) then enable FreeDOS 
to recognize the Ethernet connection?

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[Marv]

Just an update to my network adapter issue. I gave up on it and moved on to
serial communications. I simply needed to be able to transfer files back
and forth between my Windows 10 laptop and my FreeDos machine. I am
successfully doing that using Kermit 3.14 on FreeDos and Kermit 95 on
Windows 10. Not as fast as I would like, but it works.


On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:29 AM tom ehlert  wrote:

>
> > Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
> > can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
> > doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to get the
> onboard network adapter to work.
>
> while it's MSDOS based, this https://www.netbootdisk.com/cards.htm
> has NDIS drivers for 98 cards.
>
> unfortunately FreeDOS is mostly ignoring network stuff.
>
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On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 11:23:49AM -0500, Marv wrote:

> You have a good point. I'm ready to give up on this motherboard and find an
> older (and cheap) desktop with appropriate card slots. Too bad - this board
> has some things I wanted like serial, parallel, PS2, VGA, plus HDMI,
> USB2/USB3, and SATA3.

But did you check it, for example, with "mem /c/p"? I bet that modern mobo
won't leave you all of "conventional" 640 KB and most probably no free
"upper memory" (for drivers etc.) at all.

The "golden rule" is: "select motherboard that has at least one ISA slot" -
and you can be 100% sure it will work under DOS control with no problem
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[Marv]

Thanks - yes, I did try ODI, but had the same results. Drivers install and
load ok, but no communication. It's time for me to move on, I think.



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> Have you tried any of the drivers from
> http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm ?
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[Marv]

You have a good point. I'm ready to give up on this motherboard and find an
older (and cheap) desktop with appropriate card slots. Too bad - this board
has some things I wanted like serial, parallel, PS2, VGA, plus HDMI,
USB2/USB3, and SATA3.




On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 11:05 AM ZB  wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 10:45:31AM -0500, Jerome Shidel wrote:
>
> > Have you tried any of the drivers from
> http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm ?
>
> If I may suggest something: maybe instead of trying to "rape" obviously
> DOS-incompatible hardware it would be better idea to run FreeDOS on
> hardware
> that is compatible? It's no longer that expensive nowadays.
>
> So the other way around: rather "what I need to run FreeDOS with no
> problems" - instead of: "I bought PCI-express mobo - no ISA, not even PCI -
> now what?".
>
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On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 10:45:31AM -0500, Jerome Shidel wrote:

> Have you tried any of the drivers from 
> http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm ?

If I may suggest something: maybe instead of trying to "rape" obviously
DOS-incompatible hardware it would be better idea to run FreeDOS on hardware
that is compatible? It's no longer that expensive nowadays.

So the other way around: rather "what I need to run FreeDOS with no
problems" - instead of: "I bought PCI-express mobo - no ISA, not even PCI -
now what?".

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[Roderick Klein]

I have seen this happen on OS/2 with porting Linux and FreeBSD NIC 
drivers. The issue is that a small chip next to the main chips seems to 
be wired up differently or different chip. You get NO DHCP lease on LAN. 
Or when you set it to static no data traffic comes in out and out. The 
realtek cards have a lot revisions of the harware and still the same 
vendor and chipset ID. I have seen this happen more often.


So if the DOS binary is older then the Windows drivers that might 
explain what is happen.


Roderick

On  7-11-20 14:12, Marv wrote:

Thanks, Tom - unfortunately, the motherboard I have available only has a
PCI Express slot (no PCI slots). I know Startech has a PCIe to PCI
adapter for $40, but then I would still need to buy a suitable PCI
network card. I don't really want to invest that much in this project.
I've looked at a lot of PCIe network cards, but haven't found one that
supports DOS type drivers.

At present, I'm still fooling around with the onboard Realtek 8111/8168B
network adapter. It has me baffled. The NDIS driver and associated files
load ok on boot with no errors, but every network program I try to run
times out with no connection. I know the hardware is ok, because I
booted to Linux on a USB stick and the network works just fine.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:29 AM tom ehlert mailto:t...@drivesnapshot.de>> wrote:


 > Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
 > can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
 > doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to getve
the onboard network adapter to work.

while it's MSDOS based, this https://www.netbootdisk.com/cards.htm
has NDIS drivers for 98 cards.

unfortunately FreeDOS is mostly ignoring network stuff.

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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

[Marv]

Thanks, Tom - unfortunately, the motherboard I have available only has a
PCI Express slot (no PCI slots). I know Startech has a PCIe to PCI adapter
for $40, but then I would still need to buy a suitable PCI network card. I
don't really want to invest that much in this project. I've looked at a lot
of PCIe network cards, but haven't found one that supports DOS type
drivers.

At present, I'm still fooling around with the onboard Realtek 8111/8168B
network adapter. It has me baffled. The NDIS driver and associated files
load ok on boot with no errors, but every network program I try to run
times out with no connection. I know the hardware is ok, because I booted
to Linux on a USB stick and the network works just fine.


On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:29 AM tom ehlert  wrote:

>
> > Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
> > can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
> > doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to get the
> onboard network adapter to work.
>
> while it's MSDOS based, this https://www.netbootdisk.com/cards.htm
> has NDIS drivers for 98 cards.
>
> unfortunately FreeDOS is mostly ignoring network stuff.
>
> Tom
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

[tom ehlert]

> Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
> can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
> doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to get the onboard 
> network adapter to work.

while it's MSDOS based, this https://www.netbootdisk.com/cards.htm
has NDIS drivers for 98 cards.

unfortunately FreeDOS is mostly ignoring network stuff.

Tom



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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

[Felix Miata]

Marv composed on 2020-11-05 17:39 (UTC-0500):

> Thanks Tom - I see the Realtek 8139 is fairly popular with DOS users and I
> can find PCI cards with that chip. But so far no luck finding a PCIe card
> that uses the 8139. Will keep looking.

If you don't mind spending money, there are adapters:



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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

[Marv]

Thanks Tom - I see the Realtek 8139 is fairly popular with DOS users and I
can find PCI cards with that chip. But so far no luck finding a PCIe card
that uses the 8139. Will keep looking.


On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:19 AM tom ehlert  wrote:

>
> > Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
> > can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
> > doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to get the
> onboard network adapter to work.
>
> Realtek 8139 has NDIS drivers, E1000 both packet and NDIS
>
> there are a couple of other cards with NDIS drivers
>
>
> Tom
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

[tom ehlert]

> Can anyone suggest a PCIe network adapter for FreeDos? One that I
> can get a packet driver or NDIS driver for. My FreeDos computer
> doesn't have a regular PCI slot and I've given up trying to get the onboard 
> network adapter to work.

Realtek 8139 has NDIS drivers, E1000 both packet and NDIS

there are a couple of other cards with NDIS drivers


Tom



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