Re: [Freedos-user] Ynt: Y

2017-05-06 Thread TOM EHLERT
From: Tom Ehlert 


as usual.

urgent problem.
even 'Solver of this problem will be rewarded with 500$.'

a lot of more or less helpful messages exchanged.

then all of sudden the original poster vanishes, without any feedback
if all the given advice helped, or not, and how he solved his problem
(or not).

after wasting our time this is not nice behaviour.

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] Ynt: Y

2017-05-06 Thread ERIC AUER
From: Eric Auer 


Hi Salih!

Do you boot virtualbox with PXE and MEMDISK? Or do you configure
virtualbox to use the img file as "normal floppy drive A: content"?

As mentioned earlier using, PXE and MEMDISK can have side effects,
for example less RAM free for HIMEM and EMM386. Also, try if things
work better without EMM386. You can use F8 during boot to skip some
config items once, without having to make a new img file. This can
help with testing...

Another idea is to install MEM on your img! Then you can use MEM
with different options to learn more about your available memory.
You can see differences which explain why KEYB fails to load.

Eric

> We run virtualbox in another windows machine to test if the
> img file is working or not. Keyb.exe is actually loaded without
> generating any errors on both
>
> physical machine and virtualbox enviroment.
>
>
> On physical machine any of keyboard layouts not work.
> In Virtualbox every keyboard layout is working.
>
> We think real machine memory side has a problem with loading keyb.exe.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Ynt: Y

2017-05-06 Thread TOM EHLERT
From: Tom Ehlert 

Hello Salih,

did you try to boot your image on real, but different hardware, like a
standard PC?

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] Ynt: Y

2017-05-06 Thread TOM EHLERT
From: Tom Ehlert 

> On physical machine any of keyboard layouts not work. In Virtualbox every
keyboard layout is working.
>
> We think real machine memory side has a problem with loading keyb.exe.

there is a tool called MEM.EXE where you can detect if KEYB is loaded
or not.

it may be as well that MEM gets loaded, but your BIOS or hardware does not
behave
as KEYB is expecting it.

to debug your problem:

reduce FDCONFIG.SYS to

  !SHELL=A:\COMMAND.COM A:\ /E:2048 /F /MSG /P=A:\FREEDOS\FDAUTO.BAT

and FDAUTO.BAT to

DISPLAY con=(EGA,857,1)
mode con codepage prepare=((857) A:\FREEDOS\EGA.CPX)
mode con codepage select=857
NLSFUNC /Y A:\DRIVER\COUNTRY.SYS
KEYB.exe tr,857,A:\FREEDOS\keybrd2.sys /id:179


or possibly even

  KEYB.exe tr,857,A:\FREEDOS\keybrd2.sys /id:179

are you able to produce turkish characters?

if not, you are runnning interesting hardware.

no way to debug this over the internet, you have a real problem.


you may try if MKEYB behaves differently.

   MKEYB GR

should swap 'Y' and 'Z'.

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] Ynt: Y

2017-05-06 Thread RALF QUINT
From: Ralf Quint 

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On 9/10/2016 1:57 PM, Salih Yuhnis wrote:
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> Hi Eric,
>
>
> We will try your config as you specified and return to you if it will
> solve the problem.
>
>
> Again for the problem is no error in loading img file with keyb.exe as
> it shows everything is ok with keyb.exe load same in virtualbox but
> keyboard layout is always bios default 457 in real machine.
>
Well, one question you have so far avoided to answer is how the actual
setup of real machine and VirtualBox machine differ. Do you run the VB
image on the same physical hardware as the FreeDOS image you are booting
over PXE?

Also, in another post, you mentioned that keyb.exe "doesn't load"? Have
you verified that with MEM that it isn't in fact loaded?

Ralf


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On 9/10/2016 1:57 PM, Salih Yuhnis
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  Hi Eric,

  


  We will try your config as you specified and return to you if
  it will solve the problem.



  


  Again for the problemais no error in loading img file with
  keyb.exe as it shows everything is ok with keyb.exe load same
  in virtualbox but keyboard layout is always bios default 457
  in real machine.a
  

Well, one question you have so far avoided to answer is how the
actual setup of real machine and VirtualBox machine differ. Do you
run the VB image on the same physical hardware as the FreeDOS image
you are booting over PXE?

Also, in another post, you mentioned that keyb.exe "doesn't load"?
Have you verified that with MEM that it isn't in fact loaded? 

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