Re: [Freedos-user] [anounce] move 3.2

2004-07-28 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Ok, so MOVE goes back to READY in the TODO list...
Aitor
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Hi,
I am hereby releasing a new version of move.
This version fixes the bug concerning the '..'  problem from the move side.
This version should work fine.
 


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Re: [Freedos-user] [anounce] move 3.2

2004-07-28 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

27-Июл-2004 23:52 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to
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BB> I have no idea if Arkady's development-kernel fixes the kernel-side of
BB> the bug Imre talks about.

 Not yet. I suggest, I know _how_ to fix this, but this touches fatfs.c,
which I not proceed yet. May be, Bart?




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Re: [Freedos-user] Please remove my message in Sourceforge

2004-07-28 Thread Nicholas Basso
Simple.  Name at address dot com.
How most of the people I know do it, in such way my address is represented:

gedrean at yahoo dot com
Any human looking at it is intelligent enough to grab it and if you can't
type it for yourself, well, I'm afraid that irritates me to massive degrees.
:)  I like intelligent users.
- Original Message -
From: "Johnson Lam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 23:09
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Please remove my message in Sourceforge


> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:09:02 -0500, you wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> >I see that you've edited the html files you linked to ... they are now
> >completely broken for email addresses.
>
> At the very beginning, say 8 years before the Internet still quiet
> healthy and no need to mask the email address, but now things going to
> the worse direction and never return.
>
> I know US made a law to fight SPAM and someone arrested already, but
> too bad this WON'T happen in other countries such as CHINA.
>
> >I personally _hate_ that method of "hiding" email addresses.  If you
> >want to hide the email address, don't include a "mailto:"; link.  You've
> >made these "mailto:"; links, but replaced "@" with "(^^)" in the same
> >Eric Auer style - so they are broken now.  That's stupid, IMO.
>
> I don't like this. But I've to let the other know how to contact me,
> and those crazy ripping engine is working as good as they want.
>
> You think that's stupid, so do I. But we become a victim that keep
> receiving SPAM and junk mail, most of them even meaningless!
>
> >If you don't want the email addresses visible, you should turn them into
> >plain text.  For example, not:
>
> I think your way is better, no "mailto:";, just plain text.
> Not convenient but at least work.
>
> >You could additionally replace the "@" with the ascii code for it, as
> >Eric sometimes does.  A spam email harvester cannot distinguish the
> >above email address(es) from any other html text on the page.  Yet a
> >user will know they are email addresses, and can copy/paste the address
> >into their email.
>
> We have to discuss and finalize a "informal standard" way of email.
> It's better than everyone decide their own way and creating multiple
> standards, bringing up more trouble.
>
>
> Rgds,
> Johnson.
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Please remove my message in Sourceforge

2004-07-28 Thread Frederick Thomas
The problem with standards, is that they become standard. Then they
get incorporated into email ripping engines as standards.


On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:09:42 +0800, Johnson Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:09:02 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> >I see that you've edited the html files you linked to ... they are now
> >completely broken for email addresses.
> 
> At the very beginning, say 8 years before the Internet still quiet
> healthy and no need to mask the email address, but now things going to
> the worse direction and never return.
> 
> I know US made a law to fight SPAM and someone arrested already, but
> too bad this WON'T happen in other countries such as CHINA.
> 
> >I personally _hate_ that method of "hiding" email addresses.  If you
> >want to hide the email address, don't include a "mailto:"; link.  You've
> >made these "mailto:"; links, but replaced "@" with "(^^)" in the same
> >Eric Auer style - so they are broken now.  That's stupid, IMO.
> 
> I don't like this. But I've to let the other know how to contact me,
> and those crazy ripping engine is working as good as they want.
> 
> You think that's stupid, so do I. But we become a victim that keep
> receiving SPAM and junk mail, most of them even meaningless!
> 
> >If you don't want the email addresses visible, you should turn them into
> >plain text.  For example, not:
> 
> I think your way is better, no "mailto:";, just plain text.
> Not convenient but at least work.
> 
> >You could additionally replace the "@" with the ascii code for it, as
> >Eric sometimes does.  A spam email harvester cannot distinguish the
> >above email address(es) from any other html text on the page.  Yet a
> >user will know they are email addresses, and can copy/paste the address
> >into their email.
> 
> We have to discuss and finalize a "informal standard" way of email.
> It's better than everyone decide their own way and creating multiple
> standards, bringing up more trouble.
> 
> Rgds,
> Johnson.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Please remove my message in Sourceforge

2004-07-28 Thread Johnson Lam
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:47:43 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Nicholas,

>Simple.  Name at address dot com.
>How most of the people I know do it, in such way my address is represented:

Some of the ripping engine can did this (variable at host dot domain),
because this become a fixed pattern, quite easy.

Also don't estimate the stupidity of human. I know quite a large
population in my city still don't know the "format" of HTTP and EMAIL,
though some of them are MX and BT expert.


Rgds,
Johnson.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Please remove my message in Sourceforge

2004-07-28 Thread Steffen Kaiser
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Frederick Thomas wrote:
The problem with standards, is that they become standard. Then they
get incorporated into email ripping engines as standards.
Exactly. And to obscure email addresses is only a tip of a programmer's 
finger to get into a ripping machine (actually, I cannot believe that all 
the various @ -> at|(at)|-at-|ad| etc.pp. mappings are obscure enough).

Actually, I suggest you set up a specific mailbox for a specific purpose 
and protect it by a whitelist-only filter that bounces failed message with 
a descriptive message. Spamware of these days does not spam one individual 
personally, hence, they don't care about such errors and try to figure out 
how to bypass such filters.

Bye,
--
Steffen Kaiser
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