Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

[Alain M.]

Arkady V.Belousov escreveu:
>  For applications, RTL usually is inherent part, so comparing RTLs
> (which also compiled by compilers) together _is_ relevant. On the other
> side, given examples make bias point - you may now enough to bias executable
> size and compare resulting sizes, not instructions versus instructions.

What about Blair's RTL? and it also has LFN...

Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] Wireless Networking via PCMCIA?

[Alain M.]

PCMCIA ethernet cards I have used many, in both MS-DOSand FreeDOS.
Does you card have any driver PKT or PACKET?

Alain

Jeffrey D. Shaffer escreveu:
> Hello all, Sorry if this has been answered before. I have been trying
> to search the FAQs and the Archives, but with little luck (perhaps I'm
> not searching in the right way), but has anyone been able to run a
> PCMCIA Wireless Networking card in their DOS machine?
> 
> I can't seem to find any decent information online to either confirm
> or deny the possibility / success of such a venture.
> 
> Hopefully someone here has some experience with wireless networking in DOS.
> 
> Thank you very much and have a great day!
> 
> Cheers,
> Jeffrey
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Re: [Freedos-user] Wireless Networking via PCMCIA?

[Alain M.]

I have one "ZEN1200" which has a Realtec-8139 chip

All PCMCIA need an "enabler". Irecomend that you either buy one that 
explicitely say "for DOS" or go phisicaly to the store and hava a look 
at the drivers.

Alain

Jeffrey D. Shaffer escreveu:
> Hi there, Alain. Thank you for your reply.
> 
> My card (a wireless D-link card) doesn't have very good non-windows
> support. I was considering buying a used PCMCIA card to use in MS-DOS.
> 
> Do you have any suggestions for a decent (but not expensive) card with
> DOS drivers?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft C/C++

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Blair Campbell escreveu:
>> What about Blair's RTL? and it also has LFN...
> And symlinks :-)

What are symlinks in DOS? I know of them in Linux, and as part of the OS 
not the RTL...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Down-arrow key doesn't work

[Alain M.]

Hi Joel,

Could you explain what is rxvt ?? it could be usefull...

thanks,
Alain

> Solved! Turns out to be a locales problem.
> I'd been doing some work with the UTF8 character set. 
> The following command does the trick for me.
> 
> LC_ALL=C rxvt -e dosemu


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Re: [Freedos-user] Down-arrow key doesn't work

[Alain M.]

Thanks, I didn't find the rxvt.

The LC_ALL=C is getting a bit complicated lately. It dosn't work 
universally on my Mandriva 2007, notably with simple things like DATE :(

Alain

Jim Hall escreveu:
> rxvt is a colour vt102 terminal emulator intended as an xterm
> replacement for users who do not require features such as Tektronix 4014
> emulation and toolkit-style configurability. As a result, rxvt uses much
> less swap space.
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/rxvt
> 
> 
> The '-e dosemu' tells rxvt (or xterm, or gnome-terminal ... same option)
> to execute DOSemu immediately (and, conveniently, exit when DOSemu
> exits.)
> 
> UNIX/Linux trivia: you can set an environment variable to exist only for
> the execution of a program.  In this example..
> 
>   LC_ALL=C rxvt -e dosemu
> 
> ..Joel has set the environment variable "LC_ALL" to the value "C" (the
> default locale.)  LC_ALL will hold this value for the program rxvt and
> its children ... specifically, the "dosemu" program.  That's why the fix
> works.
> 
> You could also get the same effect by doing this:
> 
>   LC_ALL=C
>   export LC_ALL
>   rxvt -e dosemu
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 11:37 -0200, Alain M. wrote:
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> Could you explain what is rxvt ?? it could be usefull...
>>
>> thanks,
>> Alain
>>
>>> Solved! Turns out to be a locales problem.
>>> I'd been doing some work with the UTF8 character set. 
>>> The following command does the trick for me.
>>>
>>>
> 
> 
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[Freedos-user] Partition Resizer

[Alain M.]

I just found about: Partition Resizer v1.3.4, www.zeleps.com

It is a free DOS program, has anyone information about it?
It could be included as a link in the FreeDOS page...

Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] About the VMWARE suggestion.

[Alain M.]

VMware is very good and works with FreeDOS, any windows and Any Linux.

You will not need support, it easy and it does what you expect it to do, 
Qemu is good too, but diffuclt to install and setup.

VMware is fast, nearly 90% of host machine. Graphics for DOS are very 
slow (Qemu is a little better and DosEmu is much better)

Host has to be a very advanced OS, xp is OK, but Linux is better :)

I am using VMware, it has no hidden catch! I cannot figure where they 
will get their money from.

Alain

Giorgos escreveu:
>> DON"T USE MICROSOFT'S VIRTUAL PC.  Go to http://www.vmware.com and
>> switch ASAP.  A suggestion is that dosemu, which is free, might be
>> better at supporting freedos than even vmware.  Virtual PC is an
>> inferior product compared to vmware.  You can use an evaluation copy of
>> workstation and then use player for free to run the virtual machine you
>> created with workstation indefinitely.  Windows 98SE, has Dos 7
>> underneath which is the last real version of MS-DOS, works very well
>> in vmware-player and vmware-workstation.  If you are interested in free
>> software, WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU TRUSTING MICROSOFT CONTROLLED PRODUCTS
>> TO TEST IT.  Microsoft is a monopoly, Microsoft wants everyone to need
>> Windows, need I say more?
>>
>> --  Michael C. Robinson
>>
> 
> Hi Michael! :-)
> 
> Since you are more experienced than me in emulation, I have a question for 
> you. (I have FreeDOS installed at my HD, I don't know much for emulators).
> 
> Which version of VMWARE do you recomend? Seems like there is a VMWARE server 
> available for free (free registration required). (Only support is $ware, but 
> there are user forums available also). There is also a beta page, for all 
> products, I don't know details.
> 
> * So, do you have tested (or will you?) FreeDOS at the free server edition?
> Is it better or worse (memory management and performance) than player only 
> edition?
> 
> BTW, I show at VMWARE site many OS distributions for downloading. Is there a 
> FreeDOS one?
> 
> Thanks!!!
> Giorgos. :-) 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] About the VMWARE suggestion.

[Alain M.]

Hi Robert,

> Don't forget http://www.virtualbox.org/ from the VirtualPC makers.
> 
I didn't know it :) :) it looks very nice...

How is using it? I have a few questions:
1) is it fast for *graphics in DOS*? this is not very good in either 
VMware or Qemu (it is good in Dosemu)
2) does it use accelerator like Kqemu?
3) does anyone have info aboit it's emulated hardware?

thanks,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Is there any way I can stop getting these messages?

[Alain M.]

I agree with Jim:

VMware is better for some things: it is more compatible and AFAIK 
*everything* works, but:
1) graphic screen in DOS is slow
2) C: is an image
3) other drives can only be networked

Dosemu has advantages:
1) Graphics are very fast in DOS (it ises a different approach to the 
problem)
2) C: is a normal directory (I can edit autoexec.bat in kwrite and reboot)
3) any letter can be attributed to any directory and will be transparent
4) network with packet driver is native and very efficient, 5) keyboard 
and mouse integration is better (IMHO)
5) it boots fast (just a small program to run, not noticeable)

Alain

Jim Hall escreveu:
> Wow.  I'm always amazed at how people can get so worked up over their
> favorite this-or-that, and call people a "fool" for using something
> else that they prefer.  But you are not foolish if you prefer Virtual
> PC - it's a tool, not a religion.  I use VMWare for some things,
> DOSEmu for others.  I use what does the job best, for whatever job I'm
> doing.
> 
> And may I also remind others on this list that if I had gotten emails
> in 1994 telling me what I fool I was "for daring to dream of building
> my own operating system", that FreeDOS would probably not have gotten
> off the ground.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/19/07, BrentMartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [...]  I've been reluctant to post since getting several private emails
>> berating me for using Microsoft Virtual PC, telling me what a fool I am for
>> daring to dream of building my own operating system, telling me my chances
>> of success are vitually nill, that it will take me years to learn a language
>> like C++, and that most operating systems end up requiring the use of more
>> than one language.
> [...]


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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on vmware

[Alain M.]

Some of these can be done...

Russell Button escreveu:
> I'm running vmware server under Ubuntu Linux 6.06 (Dapper Drake).

Nice :)

> 1.  Get IP networking running on the freedos VM.

What can be doen is install Windows client for dos (It is free), you 
will have to find the driver for the board emulated by VMware. I know it 
can be done, but didn't have time to do it...

> 2.  Be able to transfer data in and out of it to my Linux environment - 
> ftp?  scp?

With the network above, using Samba. Or: there is a ftp for DOS, you can 
use it a packet driver (if you don find it, I can send you one)

> 3.  Be able to telnet in from an xterm of arbitrary size and run the 
> apps from a window larger than 640x480

probably NO! this is standard DOS limitation

> 4.  It would be great if I could print to a networked HP Laserjet from 
> the VM as well.

This probably can be done :) but it is not easy. I do it in Dosemu using 
  GhostPcl: http://www.artifex.com/downloads/ it takes a Laserjet fila 
as input and outputs it to any Linux printer. What I am not sure is if 
you can make VMware sent printer output to a file or Linux program.

You should try dosemu with FreeDOS, some things are simpler there ;-) 
only one thing I know that cannot work: network file locking has problems...

Alain


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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on vmware

[Alain M.]

Hi Bernd,

> [...] HTTP/FTP downloads through packet driver (Wget), 

What version do you use? does it work ok?

On the net I found
   wget182b-1.zip
   wput031.zip

I was in need tof developing them!!!


What would I use for sending emails (with attachement file)

Thanks,
Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos under paralles on x86 mac

[Alain M.]

Yes, I used the same trick, it's exactly like a REAL machine ;-)

Alain

Jim Hall escreveu:
> I don't have Parallels anymore, but to debug this I tried to install
> FreeDOS 1.0 using VMWare.  I hit the same problem you found: after
> using XFDisk to partition the drive, reboot, and then you see "invalid
> operating system".
> 
> The reason is that the BIOS presented by VMWare (or in your case,
> Parallels) tries to boot from the hard drive first, then CD-ROM.  If
> the hard drive is uninitialized (i.e. no partitions, before you run
> XFDisk) then it boots correctly from the FreeDOS 1.0 install CD.
> 
> Once you partition the drive, there is a C: drive there, so the
> virtual machine tries to boot from the C: drive.  But there isn't an
> operating system there yet, so the virtual machine aborts with
> "invalid operating system".
> 
> The solution is to edit the BIOS settings using the BIOS Setup
> program.  You'll see this when you boot your virtual machine - under
> VMWare, you press F2 when you see the VMWare "BIOS" logo.  Under the
> "Boot" menu, you'll be able to change the boot selection order.  On
> VMWare, you move the cursor to "CD-ROM" then use "+" to move it up in
> the list (above "Hard Drive".)
> 
> Once you've done that, the virtual machine should be able to boot the
> FreeDOS 1.0 install CD to do the actuall installation.  On my VMWare
> instance, it took about 10 minutes.  :-)
> 
> -jh
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/28/07, Bonnie Dalzell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK I took notes this time.
>>
>> Try to install real freedos (not run it inside linux inside parallels)
>>
>> Parallels has you pick options
>>
>> Picked DOS
>> and then under that Other DOS
>>
>> Gave it 192 MB of memory and a gig for its harddrive.
>>
>> All this is happening in the paralles window on the mac desktop.
>> Used the FreeDos 1.0 Full CD I downloaded and burned Feb 27 2007
>>
>> Installed boot manager.
>>
>> Restart and get the startup screen with the boot manager and Freedos
>> as the choice in boot manager
>>
>> However when I try and boot freedos i get the following:
>>
>> freedos is booting please be patient
>>
>> Invalid Operating System
>>
>>
>> hmm.
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Re: [Freedos-user] intall window98 on freedos

[Alain M.]

But... just maybe... it could work.

The reason is that Win98 replaces ALL the former OS, so it *could* work 
and in then FreeDOS would be removed.

This can be usefull if you just need something to boot from and start 
the CD...

Alain

Geraldo Netto escreveu:
> hi Tonny,
> 
> while i could not test by my self i think you can't do this because
> freedos does not support
> all dos interruptions(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrupt) also
> afaik windows uses some undocumented interruptions...
> 
> Geraldo
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/04/07, Tonny Sapri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> after i booting from freedos,can i install windows
>> 98SE on freedos platform?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change

[Alain M.]

Does it change using regular dos commands?
mode co80,50
mode co80,43
test without NDN loaded, because it has an option to restore it's own 
display configuration.

Alain

Johnson Lam escreveu:
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:28:00 +0200 (MEST), you wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> In what way? There are TSRs to provide the 8x14
>> font which is misssing in some modern VGA BIOSes
>> (to save space). You can do a lot with VESA VBE 2
>> already (VBE 1: no framebuffer, slow), so even in
>> DOS, not many people will notice problems if no
>> VBE 3 support is there.
> 
> My NVIDIA 7800GT fail to change mode under NDN (other than 80x25), I
> have no idea and don't know how to make it work.
> 
> I don't think that kind of high-end card can't do this kind of simple
> task, just don't know how to enable it.
> 
> 
> Rgds,
> Johnson.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change

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Yes, there is active development in NDN...

As for impouving it's display functions I can help, but only if somone 
can make a detailed howto of how to set up it's compile environment. 
Usualy this can take days which I don't have to spare, but I have some 
experience with PC's video. Specially on the compatibility issue.

Alain

Florian Xaver escreveu:
> Have you contact the developer of Necromancer DOS Navigator?
> 
> Bye
>  Flo
> 
> On 4/17/07, Johnson Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:32:58 +0800, you wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For the NDN display mode problem, finally I found that after press SHIFT-F10
>> (NextVid) the 6th times, screen will have garbage characters on the right
>> pane, continue to the 9th time will hang up whole PC, need to press
>> ALT-CTRL-DEL.
>>
>> IBM NetVista Desktop
>> 
>> CPU: Intel Pentium 4 -1.7GHz
>> Chipset: Intel 845G
>> Video: Intel 845G(L) Integrated / 320KB
>>
>> Appreciate Eric or anyone to improve Necromancer DOS Navigator.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Rgds,
>> Johnson.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change

[Alain M.]

Hi,

The problem with the display is that on *any* (dosemu included) vga 
system there is a standard way to have 25,43 and 50 lines that is fast 
and relyable and BIOS compatible. It works very well in Windows 98 and 
XT dos boxes too.

NDN has many video modes beyond those. I believe that there should be a 
version or an option for compatibility that stick to the basics...

Alain

Johnson Lam escreveu:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:28:17 -0300, you wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Yes, there is active development in NDN...
> 
> That's good, it's a fine software.
> 
>> As for impouving it's display functions I can help, but only if somone 
>> can make a detailed howto of how to set up it's compile environment. 
>> Usualy this can take days which I don't have to spare, but I have some 
>> experience with PC's video. Specially on the compatibility issue.
> 
> I need to try it on other PC, but I need some time, and I think mode detection
> should be carry out by an external utilities and write the result in a
> "vmode.ini" to let the main program use it without crashing anything.
> 
>>> Have you contact the developer of Necromancer DOS Navigator?
> 
> I want to test on other similar model PC, to make sure this is really a
> "problem", rushing to report may not help.
> 
> 
> Rgds,
> Johnson.
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Re: [Freedos-user] ONLINE BIBLE (OLB - DOS VERSION) SOLVED ! (Frank Finley)

[Alain M.]

frank finley escreveu:
> Just to let the Freedos user world know that the Online Bible (Dos version) 
> load error is now solved, thanks to user-list member Eric Auer.

Thanks,
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Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...

[Alain M.]

Ho Florian,

That looks like a new DISTRO, not version 2.0

I believe that we should then have more than one "DISTRO", like Linux, 
this could be BigFreeDOS, while a basic FreeDOS distro should remain 
basicaly the same.

I believe that some "Distro" should come as close to the original MS-DOS 
as possible.

Alain


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> Hi Jim, I all!
> 
> What should change with FreeDOS 2.0? Some ideas, I think, they have to
> be a must :-)


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Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...

[Alain M.]

Geraldo Netto escreveu:
> IMHO, we should list small and simple things to do first,
> Specially because it is faster and we have not enough manpower :(

Agreed. Im not 100% sure if FreeDOS 1 is final. There should soon be a 
1.1 or something, I see many interestings things on the way!

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Re: [Freedos-user] Internet Extender

[Alain M.]

Hi Bernd,

I couldn't undertand what you want, if:

1) you want automated packed driver installer, I can help,

2) you want a ram disk from command line, I use "DEVLOAD TDSK.EXE"

Alain

Bernd Blaauw escreveu:
> tom ehlert schreef:
>> I'm missing an *auto-installed* network driver (packet or NDIS), where
>> you could load email/Arachne/... on top
>>   
> auto-installation scripts for this is quite horrible. I know Eric had 
> some PCI tool, but that couldn't be automated and required a tempfile to 
> be written and parsed with FIND, and a lot of 'if' commands in a 
> batchfile. Btw is there any 8086-compatible ramdisk program that uses 
> conventional memory and can be loaded on the fly (commandline) ?.
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Re: [Freedos-user] On to FreeDOS 2.0...

[Alain M.]

I would personaly use a small Linux Distro and many instances of DOSEMU.

That way you have everything stable and well tested with a very good 
performance.

IIRC there was such a thing: http://www.magma.com.ni/~jorge/lios/

It would be nice to have a modern port of that :)

Alain

Nick Warren escreveu:
> You know what would be really awesome in FreeDOS? multitasking. There 
> are no open source multitaskers for DOS. They used to have some programs 
> that did that a long time ago, but they were all proprietary. When I say 
> "multitasking", I don't mean "task switching" like in MS DOSShell. Can 
> this be done?
> 
> On 5/12/07, *Florian Xaver* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim, I all!
> 
> What should change with FreeDOS 2.0? Some ideas, I think, they have to
> be a must :-)
> 
> *Using 4DOS as standard command tool, and Bash or freecom as choice.
> *Using JEMM as memory manager
> *Using HX Extender & Co to support Windows programs in DOS
> *PythonD as modern script language
> *Using an Editor which supports large files (like FED or SETEDIT)
> *One standard file manager (my choice would be FW or NDN)
> *No more 386- support
> 
> I also think, that it shouldn't be a BIG collection of all free DOS
> programs.
> The distribution should contain less, but powerful programs. (Download
> via WGET for additional tools could be possible.) If there are more
> than one (like file managers) we could make a poll at freedos.org
> 
> where user and developer can choose them.
> 
> Network: Latest Arachne (a much more advanced version should be
> distributed soon) is a ''must", also tools like WGET. And one big
> problem still exists: a driver. So there should be a note at the
> installer, which points to FreeDOS Wiki or another site, where a good
> documentation exists ( about installing such a driver).
> 
> And the GUI? I would say OZONE :-))
> Even with the drag'n'drop-bug it has many features and developing of
> programs isn't difficult.
> 
> Bye
> Flo
> --
> It is true that no one can essentially cultivate exact science
> without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not
> to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians
> find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but
> a part of mathematics.
> (James Clerk Maxwell)
> 
> Using Arachne, the GPL Web Browser/Suite
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Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: Nansi 4.0d with smaller memory footprint, please try

[Alain M.]

:)

Larry Alkoff escreveu:
> Eric I just started using nansi40d.sys and its a great improvement over
> 40a.  Nansi40a did not give 4dos directory colors but 40d does.  Finally 
> I can get rid of the proprietary ansi.sys.
> 
> Thanks for the updates.
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] MS LANMAN

[Alain M.]

Do you have wget and wput working in FreeDOS (usng packet drivers)? I 
would be very interested in that.

The best I fot until now is FTP from WatTcp which is small and works 
very nicely.

There is a small bug in some free ftp servers for Windows, and I will 
make some fixes in WatTcp's ftp client to get allong better with it. If 
somone is interested, please send me a note.

Alain

Mikiya Matsuzaka escreveu:
> I finally gave up using MS LanMan nor MS Client.
> 
> I launched an httpd on my WinXP and the files are easily gotten
> from FreeDOS with wget command.
> 
> Just reported (and recommended).
> 
> ---
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Re: [Freedos-user] MS LANMAN

[Alain M.]

wput functionality (sent a file to an ftp server) can be achieved by 
ftp.exe from WatTcp. I was just hopeing that something more like wput 
that do exist for Linux and Windows...

Alain

Eric Auer escreveu:
> Hi Mikiya,
> 
>>> Do you have wget and wput working in FreeDOS (using packet drivers)?
>> There's no wput, just a free http server on WINDOWS, and
>> "C:\FDOS\BIN\WGET.EXE" with packet driver.
> 
> Right - wget is a generic HTTP and FTP client,
> not a counterpart to something called WPUT :-).
> 
> But there is EZNOS, which is a free HTTP and FTP
> server for DOS. You use it with the same packet
> driver as WGET... Of course WGET only runs at the
> moment when you get a file while EZNOS is left
> running all the time because it is a server...
> 
> Eric
> 
> PS: If you want a WPUT, maybe you can find a DOS
> version of NETCAT. It can send and receive data.


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Re: [Freedos-user] bootable DOS on HDD

[Alain M.]

>> 2. Bad or missing Command interpreter: C:\FDOS\bin\command.com C:\FDOS\bin
>> /E:1/P=C:\auotexec.bat
> 
> That should mean exactly that. The command.com file is not
> found, maybe because the install did not fully complete.

it could also be that you boot from CD boot area, which becomes A: so 
you need to have the paths configured accondingly

Note also the typo: /E:1/P=C:\auotexec.bat

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

[Alain M.]

>>  Install Freedos on the second primary
>>  partition.
> 
> Yep, that's what I should have done.  The HOWTO sure gave the
> imporession that it would automagically share a parition.  I'll
> probably jsut shrink the FreeDOS FAT partition and dual-boot
> Linux.

It's easy on Linux, specially with grub.

The trick is: have two primary partitions, one of them active, none 
hidden. There is a command in GRUB to change tha active partition "on 
the fly" prior to boot.

The advantage is that nothing needs to be special, each run in C: and 
the other is still available (at the last letter)

Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

[Alain M.]

> Did 98SE and ME come out about the same time?

No

>  I don't think 
> that Windows ME has support for real mode dos.

Yes it has. but there is a patch for 98 like boot.

Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

[Alain M.]

Grant Edwards escreveu:
> (now all I have to do is figure out how to fix that damned
> caps-lock key...).

What do you want to do?

Alain


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Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.

[Alain M.]

Florian Xaver escreveu:
> Why does most people like GRUB? I don't like it. :-) I think, there are  
> many better boot-managers.

I can answer for myself: I don't like it, I just have in in my machine ;-)

Let me explain: I use Mandrive Linux which just give me 2 choices: Lilo 
or Grub. Unless I were willing to spend a lot of time learning to 
install something else and never use the crash recover capabilities, I 
am stuck with it.

I just could not find in LILO how to change active partition at boot 
time (for Fdos/win98 boot) and swap partitions (needed for WinXP).

So I am stuck with GRUB, which BTW works just fine and the later version 
has a better look :)

Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] networking problem

[Alain M.]

There is a tutorial *somewhere* about how to install a new driver in the 
ms-client floppy so that instalation can be automatic!!!

The sad thing is that I lost that link, if anyone has it, please send it 
here :) :)

Alain

Mikiya Matsuzaka escreveu:
>> i try to use ssh2dos and work perfectly!!! the net is working, now i
>> need to mount in FreeDOS a samba shared folder, and i don't know how
>> to do that, i googled and i can get a answer, where i can find this
>> info?¿
>>
>>   
> Here,
> 
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/ftp.gcfl.net/pub/freedos/ms-clients/
> 
> and this.
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/124175/en-us
> 
> You also need NDIS driver.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 or 2.0...

[Alain M.]

someone escreveu:
>  -- Michael C. Robinson
> 
> Replace memmaker anyone???

INHO memmaker is not very inportant for new hardware (newer then 386!).

It was very important when UMB was complex and tricky made of many small 
memory areas. For some time now, it has become a contimous block of 
memory and so, a simple standard emm386 setup works for 99% of the 
machines...

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Re: [Freedos-user] runtime tool needs new translations

[Alain M.]

Geraldo Netto escreveu:
> Hi Guys,
> 
> In portuguese we have:
> 1 - segundos
Ok

> 2 - passados
2 - decorridos

> 3 - "RUNTIME é um software livre de domínio público por Eric Auer 2007"
> "Uso: RUNTIME seu_programa [suas_opções]"
> "Mostra quanto tempo o seu programa executou, max 1 dia (23":59:59.99)"
3 - "RUNTIME é um software livre, de domínio público por Eric Auer 2007"
 "Uso: RUNTIME seu_programa [opções]"
 "Mostra quanto tempo durou a execução do seu programa, max 1 dia 
(23":59:59.99)"

> 5 - "COMSPEC não encontrado"
Ok

My suggestion: message 5 should be somethin like:
"COMMAND.COM not found"

Alain


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Re: [Freedos-user] How to make a cd which can boot from the cdrom with freedos and ghost

[Alain M.]

This one works: http://www.netbootdisk.com/ FWIK, it's the new version, 
(correct me if I am wrong)

I believe that the link bellow is offline or obsolete :(

Alain

John Heim escreveu:
> From: "勇顺张" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
>> Thanks  mark ,eric responded mail so soon.
>> I mean,I think  make a cd with some software(like ghost,only run in dos
>> mode),the cd can boot from cdrom,after the freedos have started up,We can
>> run ghost with the 'ghost' command.
> 
> I think you're asking about how to make an iso image from which you can 
> create a bootable CD. A lot of what  you need to know is explained on this 
> page:
> http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/
> 
> That is a good page to look at if you want to build a bootable CD even if 
> you don't use the tools offered for download on that page. I have 
> successfully created a bootable freedos diskette and then used Bart's 
> utility program on the page above to create a bootable CD.  I'm blind so the 
> first thing I have  DOS do after it boots from the CD is run the installer 
> for a speech program. Instead of installing speech, you  could have it run 
> ghost.  All you do to have it run something when you boot is put it in the 
> autoexec.bat file.
> 
> I'm still just getting started with this and one thing I don't know how to 
> do is get past the 1.44 Mb size limit on a diskette. But even that is 
> explained on Bart's page (URL above). I just haven't gotten that far yet.
> As somebody said, you have to build your diskette image with CDROM drivers.
> 
> 
> Note to the rest of the list:
> As I mentioned, I'm trying to make a CD that comes up talking. Having it run 
> the installer right after boot is no good because I can't see to run the 
> installer. This is where I am currently stuck. I thought what I'd do is try 
> to install the screen reader on a bootable freedos diskette and then build a 
> bootable CD.
> 
> 
> 
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[Freedos-user] Tesxt mode Screen-grabber

[Alain M.]

Hi all,

Please, I need a simple *text mode with collor* screen grabber for dos. 
Not a super vga or vesa... just text ;-)

So that I can insert the screen later into other documentations.

Thanks,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Question about Virtual Box performance.

[Alain M.]

I never used Virtual Box, but I can say this:

VMware is very good, *except* for DOS graphics programs. graphics screen 
is very slow. With Win98 and a special drivers it is good. Network 
is ok, I could only share folders as network disks.

Qemu is faster for graphics in DOS. It has some limitations and is 
harder to setup. Network ok too.

DOSEMU is fast i graphics too. Network is packet driver only but you can 
map any letter to any Linus folder, so in fact this is better than 
shared folders or netwoked drivers.

Alain


Giorgos escreveu:
> Hi!!! :-)
> 
> I read yesterday, a mail from chieffy (from FSM) to FSM subscribers, that 
> points at these pages:
> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/using_virtualbox_to_run_ubuntu
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Using_VirtualBox_to_run_Ubuntu_and_any_other_operating_system
> 
> It refers to http://virtualbox.org/ (that comes with freeware binaries and 
> open source sources).
> Since I heard about it at chieffy's mail for the first time, I want to ask 
> you:
> Is someone here, familiar with it? Can he compare it with VMWARE Server? Is 
> it better or worse? Is it faster or slower? Is it emulating FreeDOS 
> properly? What about (free) support options?
> If someone is familiar with it, please share his experience - opinion, with 
> us.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Running FreeDOS on a HP Model nx7400 Vista Business.

[Alain M.]

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
> I sell an expensive DOS based engineering program

I also sell (rent) programs that run in DOS :) :) moving to FreeDOS...

You should first try VMware. It has everything that you need, even the 
dongle should work. The only problem that I foresee is screen speed.

It has even another advantage: zero install/setup. As it runs in a 
Virtual machine, you send a full image and VMware just runs it :)

Send feedback,
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Re: [Freedos-user] collision between freedos emm386 and memdisk

[Alain M.]

Hi all,


Eric Auer wrote:
> If HIMEMX is "FreeDOS HIMEM plus some bugfixes by Japheth": Yes.
> 
> OTHERWISE I recommend to use JEMM386 (also on www.japheth.de)
> which is an optimized and improved version of FreeDOS emm386.

I also have doubts about this.

We (many people in this list) espent months testing himem and emm386 
from Michael Devore. Are those two just a bugfix from *that* well tested 
version or is it descendent from somewhere else?

Alain


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Re: [Freedos-user] collision between freedos emm386 and memdisk

[Alain M.]

Hi Eric,

I am still in doubt: did he start from Michael's last and well tested 
version or is it possible that it has bugs already fixed in Michael's 
version?

Alain

Eric Auer escreveu:
> Hi Alain,
> 
>>> If HIMEMX is "FreeDOS HIMEM plus some bugfixes by Japheth": Yes.
>>>
>>> OTHERWISE I recommend to use JEMM386 (also on www.japheth.de)
>>> which is an optimized and improved version of FreeDOS emm386.
> 
>> We (many people in this list) espent months testing himem and emm386
>> from Michael Devore. Are those two just a bugfix from *that* well
>> tested version or is it descendent from somewhere else?
> 
> 
> Japheth did indeed improve himem yet more. He also modified defaults,
> so it is more Win9x style than MS DOS style now - no problem if you
> read the docs to know which options you want for your old games ;-).
> 
> You are right that the "public relations" are not as good as with
> Michael Devore. Japheth keeps updating things, and his readme files
> will tell you about the changes, but I cannot find an archive of old
> versions (if you want to test which version introduced a problem)
> and there are usually no mails to the freedos mailing lists when an
> update is released, so I can only say "try if an update today helps
> if you have any problem". I cannot say "this was fixed at time X"
> or anything. His programming is certainly nice :-).
> 
> 
> Another problem is that Japheth likes jemmex much better than the
> himem plus jemm386 combination, I believe. Good point is that it
> is one combined package (saves some overhead and is always compat-
> ible to itself), bad point is that you cannot test the two parts
> separately and cannot use classic configuration style. Users who
> are used to MS DOS will have to learn more for jemmex than for a
> classic himem plus jemm386 combination.
> 
> Maybe a small extra problem with jemmex: You cannot ask people to
> try what happens if they keep himem but skip emm386 (for debugging
> purposes), as using himem and using jemmex will mean that you use
> two completely separate implementations of what himem does. No big
> problem - as long as any good himem stays available :-).
> 
> 
> I myself sometimes load jemm386 and sometimes do not, but I almost
> always load himem :-).
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] collision between freedos emm386 and memdisk

[Alain M.]

Hi Japheth,

Japheth escreveu:
> Btw, in the name of how many people are you speaking exactly? And what do you 
> regard as "well tested". Because, as for me, I seriously doubt that a program 
> is "well tested" just because some dozens (or some hundreds? I have no idea 
> how big the FD user base is.) people boot FD with Himem, running their 
> favorite handfull of apps occationally and then switch back to windows/linux.

Lots of tests were done by lots of people here in the list. I understand 
your point that lots of people can mean nothing... but those test were 
of many programs running in many platforms.

Just to name one: there was one bug-for-bug fix that enabled BC31 to 
work, it was something about a register being 00h on exist of a certain 
call. The bug was by Borland, but the result is that now we can use one 
more impotant program that didn't work ;-)

I am not woried about parts that you fixed or rewrote, on the contrary, 
you have a reputaion of very good code quality. What I am woried is that 
some "compatibility fixes" could get lost.

I am planning to make a FreeDOS distro as of my own ideas. I personaly 
never had problems with emm386 since Michael's last version but I would 
like to know which is more appropriate for a "general" distribution.

Thanks for the feedback,
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Re: [Freedos-user] collision between freedos emm386 and memdisk

[Alain M.]

Japheth escreveu:
> AFAIR this was a DPMI issue, using int 31h, ax=0300h with register CX != ZERO 
> because the FD kernel returned CX > 0 in a DOS version call and MS-DOS 
> returned cx == 0. This issue is unrelated to Himem or Emm386. You should 
> provide a better example. :)

Sorry, I got a little confused in this case because it was reported as 
an EMM bug (looked very much like that) and it was fixed by Michael at 
that same time as other emm bugs...

> All I have to say is said already in the readme/history files. If you have 
> worries, and FD Emm386 works fine for you, then there is no reason to care 
> about Jemm.

I am not woried at all. I just wonder which should be used in a wider 
distribution... According to this current discussion, it looks like JEMM 
should ;-)

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Re: [Freedos-user] My first crack at FreeDOS

[Alain M.]

Hi Chris,

I use FreeDOS in read world applications and it runs well and stable.

If you have enough knowledge in DOS, I recomend that you just ignore the 
install CD and pick each program that you need and place it where you 
believe it belongs. That way it works great! The install CD is over 
complicated and dos not repepresent FreeDOS as a whole: FreeDOS is 
*much* better than the instalation may let you believe...

Sorry guys, that is what I think... I am a use of DOS since PC-DOS 1.1 
and I was not able to use that install CD...

Alain

Chris Ruhl escreveu:
> Hello everyone and greetings from Southeastern PA!
> 
> I discovered your project when looking for newer alternatives to 
> MS-DOS.  I have a process control program written in DOS that is used 
> for a critical commercial application and will need to support it for at 
> least five more years.  My personal experiences go back to MS-DOS 2.11 
> and the IBM-XT.  I have several years of formal schooling in programming 
> but nothing on the level of operating system coding.  I wish I could 
> help but haven't coded in a decade or more.
> 
> I hope this project succeeds and grows.  The latest version did give me 
> some grief when trying to install it to brand new computers with "clean" 
> as in no partitioned hard drives.  At least the install tried and did so 
> better than some Linux distributions that I've tried.
> 
> The pro:  FreeDOS runs my application fine. Even EMM386.EXE behaves 
> itself!  I like the little added touches from old MS-DOS, like the 
> ability to easily skip or line-load configuration files at boot without 
> pressing F5 or F8 and hoping that you didn't press too late!  That's a 
> big help for me!
> 
> The con:  I simply don't have the time to fudge, compile, download files 
> from various places to make it all work.  I can load my licensed copies 
> of MS-DOS 6.0 and the application software in 20 minutes.  I spent two 
> hours trying to figure out how to make the FreeDOS install work right on 
> both FAT32 and FAT16 file systems after experimenting and reading FAQ's 
> and HOWTO's and saw weird problems with some of the external commands 
> like "chkdsk" under FAT16 which kept insisting that certain application 
> files were more than one hundred times their actual size.  "Edit" won't 
> allow you to choose out of saving a text file that you've accidentally 
> altered while reading it and you're forced to save the "oopses." The 
> installer wouldn't let me stop loading packages in a graceful manner, I 
> had to force my way out. 
> 
> Otherwise, great job!!!  Polish up the rough edges and this is a high 
> flier!  I can imagine how hard it can be when many are working on 
> different parts of the same project and I'm sure many are doing this out 
> of a labor of love and the cost of their free time.
> 
> Unfortunately, it was just too dangerous and quirky to trust to what I 
> need it to do so I'm going to patiently wait for a while and try back 
> later.  I can understand that those having an interest in DOS but not 
> too technically oriented will have much trouble with release 1.0.  This 
> is a work in progress and requires some reading and understanding.  For 
> really good kudos, include a utility that will make easy writes to CD-RW 
> drives... "CDRoast" is way too far out of date and "CDRecord' pretty 
> much the same with newer CD-RW drives like the LG drives in my new systems.
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Re: [Freedos-user] SATA drive problem now??

[Alain M.]

Chris Ruhl escreveu:
> 
> I'll post more as I find it but I cannot run FreeDOS until I can work 
> out a functional file system check and repair utility.

That will be dosfsck. in fact it is the same as used by linux (recognize 
the name?)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Looking for a lightweight TCP/IP stack

[Alain M.]

There is a project that is *almost* what you need: www.netbootdisk.com, 
it fits into one flopy, has drivers for *ALL* NICs (including new 1Gb) 
and it loads both MS-Client (which is free), has a DHCP preconfigured 
and packet driver.

It works just fine with ftp from the WatTcp project! or you can access 
any samba share!

In fact he has made that disk specially for support and mantainance

Alain

Bernd Blaauw escreveu:
> Steffen Grunewald schreef:
>> Hi,
>>
>> we're looking for a very lightweight TCP/IP stack on top of FreeDOS.
>> We only need basic DHCP functionality (to tell the client its own IP,
>> and the one of the server) and TFTP to transfer a single file in both
>> directions. The goal is to enhance BIOS flash floppy images ...
>> Any recommendations/recipes/pointers at pre-built software? we *are*
>> aware of wattcp/watt32 but think it's already too big - at least the
>> stuff should fit onto a 2.88MB ED floppy, with the BIOS stuff that's
>> already 1.44MB.
>>   
> Hm, looks difficult. I'd suggest using PXE booting, with universal 
> packet driver
> [ http://www.emboot.com/products_UniversalPacketDriver.htm ],
> no idea how big your Wattcp TFTP client program is, and if it supports 
> uploading files.
> I've never tried uploading files with DOS as OS, just used packet driver 
> + WGET (400KB)
> combined with a RAMDISK for temporary storage.
> 
> Strange that your BIOS stuff is already 1.44MB, my latest motherboard 
> has a 8Mbit chip, which is 1MB, but that's about it,
> all other motherboards have lower BIOS disksize capacity.
> On the other hand, I could assume you let users write the current BIOS 
> to disk before writing latest BIOS file to the chip.
>> Cheers,
>>  Steffen
>>   
> Bernd

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Re: [Freedos-user] Clarifications.

[Alain M.]

Johnson Lam escreveu:
> 
> If anyone can help Jack to find S-ATA native control, he may consider
> implement it, but all the resources seems need to pay ...

Where? how much? please send a link if you have...

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Re: [Freedos-user] My sugestions after few days of use

[Alain M.]

This is the successor of NC: http://ndn.muxe.com/

you can use the latest beta, it usialy is stable...

Alain

Vytautas Rakeviius escreveu:
> I used FreeDOS for few days. And the thing I lacked
> the most was some kind of program or at least textfile
> about which program do what. And at all it is quite 
> hard to find programs in full distribution. Maybe one
> big and good *.bat skript can do all this job. Like
> "start.bat".
> 
> And I do not want to hurt developers fealings, but
> OpenGEM is useless. I found my old Norton commander
> ant installed it in my FreeDOS. But norton comander is
> not GNU. So it would be nice to see "GNU Midnight
> Commander" ported to FreeDOS. 
> 
> 
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] OS selectors

[Alain M.]

There is an added trick, it made the difference for me:

with GRUB,you can
1) change the active partition before starting it. That is that I use to 
select hda1=FreeDOS and hda2=Win98
2) you can swap whole partitions around, this is usefull when you have a 
WinXT that was instaled as hda1 and now has moved fo hdb (and some hda 
partition is visible to it, making it !=C: )

This helps putting everithing in the right place just befor booting ;-)

Alain

Eric Auer escreveu:
> Hi, to have a boot menu between os2, win2k and dos,
> you can use the built-in boot menu of win2k. edit
> the boot.ini or similar file, you will find howtos
> on the internet. You can add a second layer of
> selection to select between all oses which share
> your fat partition, by adding metakern. It is a
> bit complicated to install, so read the docs
> carefully...
> 
> To access the hpfs partition should be possible
> with the win2k boot menu. From within os2, save
> the boot sector (no idea with which tool) into
> a file and copy that to a place where win2k can
> reach it. Then you can add it to the boot menu.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Necromancer DOS Navigator (NDN) and Freedos

[Alain M.]

Bonnie Dalzell escreveu:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Florian Xaver wrote:
> FX >
> FX >Much better than Midnight Commander is Necromancer DOS Navigator (NDN). 
> It  
> FX >has many many features ;-)
> FX >You should have installed it.
> 
> when I went to the home pages for this application 
> http://ndn.muxe.com
> they discuss a linux version and a windows version but not a dos version.

Click on beta version, the 4th line is DOS :)

That is the one I use (32 bit). There is a historical 16 bit version...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Necromancer DOS Navigator (NDN) and Freedos

[Alain M.]

Marti van Lin escreveu:
> Yup, I tested it and it worked flawlessly, no need to invoke CWSDPMI 
> manually.

:)

> I've only had some problems extracting the RAR file, UNRAR gave a 
> message "unknown method"

There was a Dos (non win-box) version od free-unrar some time ago here 
on the list. NDN can be configure to use it

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Re: [Freedos-user] "PRINT" command

[Alain M.]

I was used to printq because it was far better then print, you should 
give it a try. I found it at ibiblio (in Freedos, he he...) 


Alain

Chris Ruhl escreveu:
> I will certainly give the NEWDOS a whirl when I can.  I've downloaded 
> it, just need to get time to play!
> 
> I will, no doubt, enjoy comparing the ms print with freedos print!!  You 
> guys are great at fixing things up right and I seem to have the perfect 
> difficult hardware and applications for testing it!
> 
> Eric Auer wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I agree that MS PRINT is no long term option. Did you also
>> try the shareware NEWDOS PRINT? Newdos is a German shareware
>> collection of replacements for MS DOS commands, trying to
>> be both user friendly and modern. See: www.newdos.de
>>
>> Another useful point in running MS PRINT in FreeDOS is that
>> you can compare various settings and can compare how the
>> various PRINTs behave. Maybe we can just fix some internal
>> settings in FreeDOS PRINT or PRINTQ to get you going :-).
>>
>> Eric
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Partition layout

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Ray Davison escreveu:
> The labels include the drive letters, if they boot to their physical 
> position.  And that is the challenge.  Booting FreeDOS 1.0, the W2K-D 
> primary picks up the letter after any extended partitions.  With DRDOS 
> 7.01 Fat32, they hold their physical position.

Extra (more than one) primary partition get a letter after all extended 
partitions. *That*is*the*rule*. If you boot Win98 or MS-DOS or FreeDOS 
from the second (physical order) primary partition, the other primary 
will also get the last letter.

FWIK, if there is an extended partition between 2 primaries, it makes no 
differece. But I am only 90% sure of that.

Some DR-DOS version have an extra bug, it has to boot from the first 
primary partition, that one will allways be called C:

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Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: DESTROY version 2.3 file wiper for DOS

[Alain M.]

MegaBrutal escreveu:
> Hi all!
> 
> It's my very first post to the list, so greetings for all.

Please, be welcomme!

> I've finished the 2.3 version of Destroy.

Just a reminder: A much more simple wipe-before-delete can be 
acconplished with my version of XDEL, which is compatible with DrDOS's.

> I'd like to ask your opinion about the software. Do you think it's
> useful? Should it be included in the next FreeDOS distribution, or it
> isn't worth that much? :)

Thanks, I would like very much to have a progrmam like that that wipes a 
little more:
1) all unused area of the disk
2) the whole disk, something to use after a) booting freedos b) running 
format. That would ba a 100% secure way to wipe a disk befor giving it away

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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos qemu

[Alain M.]

I use it regularly, it works just fine. The networking problem is that 
you have to find the appropriate driver for the virtual NIC. Probably 
www.netbootdisk.com will help, it also installs a MS client

Alain

usul escreveu:
> hello,
> has anyone done this and got filesharing and networking to work?
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Printing to a network printer....

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Mateusz Viste escreveu:
> On Monday 01 October 2007 10:37, Robert Riebisch wrote:
>> Look for Microsoft Network Client 3.0.
>> Or visit .
> 
> I already saw those resources, but couldn't find anything about direct 
> printing to network printers... MS Network Client is a memory hog, and as far 
> as I understand, it's designed to print to shared printers on a MS network 
> rather than printing directly to a network printer (I don't have a MS 
> network, just a plain TCP/IP with Linux computers)...

If you have Samba in you Linux box, you can share a printer through 
Samba, that is the way to go...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Printing to a network printer....

[Alain M.]

What you fount are good news...

By the way, are you printing from a plain dos machine, dosemu... ???

Alain

Mateusz Viste escreveu:
> On Monday 01 October 2007 13:30, Robert Riebisch wrote:
>> I'm not aware of such an application. Start with WATTCP and distribute
>> your result. :-)
> 
> Until now I got it working the following way:
> 
> To begins, there must be some software installed in the PATH:
> 1. WatTCP (http://www.bgnett.no/~giva/)
> 2. LPT2FILE (http://sac-ftp.externet.hu/utiltext15.html)
> 3. JD.EXE from PPRD 2.0 (http://www.smashco.com/wattcp/pprd200.zip)
> 4. A packet driver for the network card
> 
> I made a simple batch file, which calls the application I want to print with, 
> catch all the LPT stuff to a file, and finally send the LPT file to the 
> network printer:
> -- [netprint.bat] --
> LPT2FILE
> %1
> LPT2FILE %TEMP%\PRINTME.PRN
> JD %TEMP%\PRINTME.PRN
> DEL %TEMP%\PRINTME.PRN
> -
> 
> Now, I have just to invoke the program I want with "netprint program.exe", 
> and 
> all printing stuff will be done at the program's end. Of course, wattcp.cfg 
> have to be configured according to the given LAN, and those lines have to be 
> added:
> PRINTERHOST = 192.168.xxx.xxx
> PORTBASE = 9100
> PRINTERNUM = 0
> 
> It's maybe not the most "elegant" way, but it works :-)
> I tested that solution with the following printing software: WordPerfect 6.0, 
> MS EDIT 2.0.026, PrintPartner 3.5, BannerMania 1.00, EnVision Pro 2.04, and I 
> hadn't any troubles.
> 
> Regards,
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Re: [Freedos-user] Multiboot using GRUB and FreeDOS plus several other operating systems

[Alain M.]

Hi Hugo and Bonnie,

Bonnie Dalzell escreveu:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Hugo Delchini wrote:
> 
> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux
> OS
> # on /dev/hda1
> title   FreeDOS
> root(hd0,0)
> savedefault
> makeactive 
> chainloader +1

Complement for HUGO: I understand that "makeactive" is to set the 
partition as Active, needed only in case that you have more than one 
primary partition that you want to boot. Remember that any dos will only 
boot from a primary partition, usualy hda1, hda2 or hda3, extended 
partitions will not work

Bonnie: what is "savedefault" ?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Install problem

[Alain M.]

A very short while ago I found GPARTED, it is a *complete* partition 
solution, and it can move ext3 and RaiserFS partitions too.

It has also a live CD (50Mb) so that using is painless. For most 
operations, it uses the regular Linux programs like "dosfsck" and 
"reiserfsck", etc...

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

Alain

Bonnie Dalzell escreveu:
> ranish partition manager is an excellent partition tool 
> (http://www.ranish.com/part/) which you can run from a floppy if you 
> have a dos floppy.
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~
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> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Install problem

[Alain M.]

Same place on the top right corner: 
<http://download.tuxfamily.org/gpartedlive/>

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
> /
> Alain
> Thank you for the response.
> Where may I get the CD?
> Dick.
> \
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> From: "Alain M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Install problem
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:26:53 -0200
> 
> A very short while ago I found GPARTED, it is a *complete* partition 
> solution, and it can move ext3 and RaiserFS partitions too.
> 
> It has also a live CD (50Mb) so that using is painless. For most 
> operations, it uses the regular Linux programs like "dosfsck" and 
> "reiserfsck", etc...
> 
> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Alain
> 
> Bonnie Dalzell escreveu:
>> ranish partition manager is an excellent partition tool 
>> (http://www.ranish.com/part/) which you can run from a floppy if you 
>> have a dos floppy.
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~
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>> mail:5100 Hydes Rd  Hydes MD USA 21082-EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> freelance anatomist, vertebrate paleontologist, writer, illustrator, dog
>> breeder, computer nerd & iconoclast... Borzoi info at www.borzois.com.
>>
>> Editor Net.Pet Online Animal Magazine  - http://www.netpetmagazine.com
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Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB

[Alain M.]

If i understand correctly, "root (hd0,5)" is because it is in an 
extended partition. No DOS can boot from extende partitions.

I recomend that you use GPARTED and move it to a primary partition.

Alain

Enbor . escreveu:
> Hi, I had installed FreeDOS and now I'm trying to to boot it using
> Grub, but I can't get it.
> 
> The partition in which I have installed FreeDOS is a logical partition
> (maybe that is the problem), called hda6 on linux. So I have been
> trying to boot by adding this entries to my Grub's menu.lst (a
> different one each try):
> 
> # FreeDOS
> title FreeDOS
> root (hd0,5)
> 
> # FreeDOS
> title FreeDOS+
> root (hd0,5)
> chainloader +1
> 
> # FreeDOS
> title FreeDOS+
> root (hd0,5)
> chainloader   /freedos.bin # After doing "sys e: freedos.bin both" from
> the FreeDOS liveCD (E: is the partition where I've installed FreeDOS)
> 
> When I select the FreeDOS entry from the Grub menu, appears a message
> saying "Starting FreeDOS" or something similar, but the PC freezes
> with a very loud Hard Disk sound and nothing happens.
> 
> I have also tried those entries above with the "makeactive" option,
> but in that case an error message appears.
> 
> Does anybody know what do I have to add to my Grub menu to be able to
> boot FreeDOS?
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB

[Alain M.]

Enbor . escreveu:
>> If i understand correctly, "root (hd0,5)" is because it is in an
>> extended partition. No DOS can boot from extended partitions.
> Yes, is a logical/extended partition, but I've read that it's possible
> to boot from there using Grub, maybe that's no true?

I have never seen it done, nither DOS or Windows up to 98 ;-)

>> I recomend that you use GPARTED and move it to a primary partition.
> It's no so easy, I have 3 primary partitions and one logical with two
> extended, so it would by hard to fix it...

Can't your other partitions be moved to extended partitions?

Apart from the very annoying Linux problem of reconfiguring all your 
partitions?

> I've just found this, from Grub's manual:
> Command: makeactive
> Set the active partition on the root disk to GRUB's root device. This
> command is limited to primary PC partitions on a hard disk.
> So it has no sense to use that option.

The "active" atribute is only defined for primary partitions...

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Re: [Freedos-user] Unable to boot using GRUB

[Alain M.]

Ok, you moved from one impossible thing to another. DOS can only boot 
from the first disk...

BUT maybe a trick that I found some time ago can help: Grub can remap 
disks, I used it to move Windows XP, so it may work for DOS:

# Windows XP SP2
 title Windows XP
 rootnoverify (hd1,0)
 map (hd0) (hd1)
 map (hd1) (hd0)
 chainloader +1

The maps commands switch disks (I really don't know how) in a way that 
the OS is fooled just right. Try it!

I hope this help :)
Alain

Enbor . escreveu:
> Well, seems that booting FreeDOS from a extended partition is
> impossible or at least very har, so I have make a primary partition of
> 1GB on my secondary disk. It's called "hdb2" by Linux.
> 
> Know the problem is that when I try to install FreeDOS, xfdisk says
> that my new partition is hidden. I don't know what this means. Also it
> has not drive letter.
> 
> Anyway, I have tried to install the OS, because the FreeDOS
> installation disk finds 3 HD, and as I have 3 FAT partitions, I have
> thought that the third one must be the one in which I want to install
> FreeDOS (despite of the letters soon by xfdisk said that my partition
> isn't one of those 3).
> 
> Voi·là, E: partition was the new created one, and FreeDOS has been
> installed successfully. But when I've tried to boot on it, after the
> screen to select the FreeDOS mode, several errors appears, saying that
> the system can't find command.com and autoexec.bat. Both files are in
> the root of the partition.
> 
> I don't understand this, does anybody know how to fix this?
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Speed boost with xdma32/xcdrom32 in virtualizers

[Alain M.]

Hi Japheth,

I am (nicely) surprised with this release!!

Why I am surprised: running on virtual machines I would have immagined 
that these would be useless. Not the least that I doubt, but I am 
*curious*, having a reasonable hardware knowledge. Could you please give 
a (short) explanation of what happens in this situation?

Thanks,
Alain

Japheth escreveu:
> I made tests running xdma32/xcdrom32 in Qemu, VirtualBox and VirtualPC. There 
> are significant speed increases to achieve, but they require to set 
> additional 
> parameters. For details see:
> 
> Qemu: http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=2463
> VBox & VPC: http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=2482
> 
> Please use these versions in virtualized environments only, they are 
> preliminary!
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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking Freedos

[Alain M.]

Hi,

very interesting stuff. Thanks for compiling it.

I believe that you should add a refernce to www.netbootdisk.com because 
it is a very prectical way of putting it all toghether, including brand 
new MotherBoards !

Alain

Ulrich Hansen escreveu:
> Today I finished writing a long guide called "Networking FreeDOS".
> Maybe you like to take a look at it?
> 
> http://www.lazybrowndog.net/freedos
> 
> I would be happy to receive your feedback.
> 
> Thanks! Have a nice chrismas time!
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Re: [Freedos-user] Watt-32 + MS network client together

[Alain M.]

To load both ndis ms-client and packet driver for the same card, the 
easiest way is to install netbootdisk and copy whatever config file it 
generates.

It's a kind of black magic, really not for the novice... I consider 
myself experinced (started with PC-DOS 1.1) and never really mastered that.

Alain

Eric Twose escreveu:
> Hi,
>  
> I'm not sure if this is "off-topic" for the freedos-user list. If so, 
> let me know or ignore this message. My apologies if this is the case.
>  
> I have an XP machine and am booting into real dos from a floppy, a usb 
> flash card becoming my c drive.
>  
> I'm running the MS tcp/ip network client/server, as the djgpp project 
> I'm working on needs network access and I also want internet access from 
> real dos so I'm running tests with the htget watt-32 application prior 
> to incorporating watt-32 in the project [libSocket works fine from a 
> windos box only].
>  
> On its own, the network client works fine; minus the network client, 
> htget works fine: I can grab a page from another machine on the LAN 
> running an Apache web server.
>  
> However, when I run the network client and watt-32 app together, htget 
> reports "no arp reply", "cannot get connected."
>  
> The card I'm using is a Realtek 8139 fast ethernet card and the network 
> client loads the ndis card driver rtssnd.dos. If I don't load anything 
> else, watt-32 reports "no packet driver found", so in a bat run at 
> bootup, I'm loading rtspkt.com (on 0x61). I'm too much of a novice to 
> know if it's right to load both the card driver and the packet driver.
>  
> Any ideas, folks? Thanks in advance. If this subject is on-topic then I 
> can send the relevant config. details.
>  
> With good wishes,
> EricT.
>  
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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking Freedos

[Alain M.]

Hi Ulrich,

Thanks for the nice explanation, 2nd version. I would like to make a few 
comments.

> 3. To activate the hardware driver and the DIS_PKT converter we need 
> other parts from the NDIS 2 universe: The Protocol Manager driver 
> (PROTMAN.DOS, PROTMAN.EXE) and the Bind utility (NETBIND.COM). This is 
> unfree software, the files are included in MS Client, LAN Manager and Co.

Here I disagree. MS-Client is free software, even if not GPL or 
distributable. But it can be used along with free software: include a 
small batch-or-script that 1) downloads the original files with wget, 2) 
extract what is neeed, 3) once there, anyone can "intenaly distribute" 
his copies. This is legaly within the licence limits.

I have already done this for Kqenu (the accelerator for Qemu) which is 
also non-distributable. I can send information to anyone that is 
interested in making a package of it.

> Yes, sorry, bad idea. WatTCP and Watt-32 are free and widely used 
> TCP/IP stacks that work great against the packet driver interface.

We (Andreas and I) have losta a lot of time with Watt-32, I recommend 
WatTcp which is small and fast. Unfornunatly WatTcp is 16 bits, I don't 
know if it is feasible to por it to WatcomC compiler.

Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] ctmouse v2.1b problem in Qemu 0.90

[Alain M.]

Hi Japheth,

I have been incolved with cutemouse, and I remember this: version 1.9x 
uses BIOS to access PS/2 mouse, version 2.x uses direct hardware access. 
Both version are suposed to be identical in all other matters.

I think that this is the main cause of you problem. Also I could never 
talk Arkady into making it all in one version, which would make it 
easier to everyone ;-)

Alain

Japheth escreveu:
> Hello,
> 
> when I run ctmouse v2.1beta in Qemu, it says "Installed at COM1 (...) in 
> Mouse 
> Systems mode" and the mouse does NOT work inside the emulator.
> 
> If I try "ctmouse /P", it displays "Error: device not found"
> 
> The old ctmouse v1.91a does not have such a problem, it detects a PS/2 mouse 
> and works in Qemu.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Networking Freedos

[Alain M.]

No, I made a distributable cd with qemu for XP. Now it is not needed any 
more. I just found this:

version 1.3.0pre10:
- Changed license to GPL version 2

It will certainly make my life easier.

Alain

Robert Riebisch escreveu:
> Alain M. wrote:
> 
>> I have already done this for Kqenu (the accelerator for Qemu) which is
>> also non-distributable.
> 
> a. As of version 1.3.0pre10 KQEMU is released under GNU GPL v2.
> b. Do you mean, that you made a KQEMU port for use in plain DOS?
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] LiveCD could not find Kernel

[Alain M.]

Hi,

I googled a lot on this subject: it seems that it is not possible to 
boot from a CD when you are in grub. I have successfully booted floppy, 
changed active partition from grub and even swap disks in such a way 
that WinXP boots from the second disk...

I have already tested that using the tab key in grub ignores the CD, so 
if you only get hd0,0 it is because there is only on disk with only one 
partition.

Alain

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
> My Isolinux "buildcd" folder is 7/13/2006.  My "Data" folder is 9/5/2006.  I 
> examined the "index of files" on the ftp site and the latest file was 
> 9/5/2006.  
> When I use grub from my various cd booting attempts I have been putting in  
> "root  (hd" followed by the tab key.  It only completes with (hd0,0).  I 
> think 
> that is my computer and not the cd.  Since you don't seem to be getting this 
> error again after you changed the isolinux could it be something peculiar 
> about 
> my computer?
> 
> I downloaded again from the ftp site and even did a md5sum check.  It still 
> hung up at the same point
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> **
> This message might be generated by ISOLINUX: We use this boot loader
> to load "memdisk" which is loaded as if it were a Linux kernel, and
> which gets a (in our case compressed) diskette image as "initrd".
> The memdisk is a bootable ramdisk from which we boot FreeDOS and load
> cdrom drivers to access the rest of the LiveCD... The menu item for
> DOS in our isolinux.cfg file is "fdos", the disk image is fdboot.img.
> When you boot the image, you would get messages about kernel sys
> (or maybe metakern) but not about a file called "fdos", which is why
> I guess that you have a problem with the isolinux step...
> 
> Did you make sure to use the "remastered" 1.0 ISO of FreeDOS?
> Unfortunately, we had an ISO with bad ISOLINUX configuration
> online for months. It just failed to boot on many BIOSes...
> 
> Eric
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Re: [Freedos-user] JEMM troubles - with VESA LFB

[Alain M.]

Remember that there is a parameter in HIMEM to set apart a little memory 
for int15.. Did you try that?

Alain

Japheth escreveu:
>> - the program uses dos4gw but using dos32a instead does not help
>> - the program crashes with fd emm386 and with jemm386...
>> - the program works okay if only himem but no emm is loaded :-)
> 
> this is no proof at all that the error is in the EMM! :))
> 
>> So maybe it uses the int 15 memory copy function for framebuffer
>> access at some point (the crash happens during initial graphics
>> compatibility testing, might differ from animation display later)?
> 
> if you didn't set NOCHECK a crash in Jemm's int 15h is not very likely.
> 
>> It might also be using XMS memory copy, no idea.
> 
> XMS will not copy to/from regions not covered by a handle.
> 
>> A third idea is
>> that it might access the framebuffer at a moment when the page
>> tables of (J)EMM386 are active for some reason, maybe a TLB flush
>> problem?
> 
> "impossible"! :))
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] JEMM troubles - with VESA LFB

[Alain M.]

Sorry, I was thinking that you both were a third person ;-)

So my comment was directed to that 3rd non-existing person :(

Alain

Japheth escreveu:
>> Remember that there is a parameter in HIMEM to set apart a little memory 
>> for int15.. Did you try that?
> 
> I tried nothing because it is Eric who has a crashing program. :)
> 
> And from the error descriptions I got so far the problem is inside the 
> DOS-extended application, not in the EMM.
> 
> What might convince me that there is something to do is if the program runs 
> with MS Emm386, but fails with Jemm. :)


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Re: [Freedos-user] JEMM troubles - with VESA LFB

[Alain M.]

Sometimes I don't get answers, so... I cannot be really sure.

I hope not ;-)

Alain

Ron Spruell escreveu:
> OK I have to say this, Talking to someone that's not there. Well at least
> it's not talking to yourself or are you? 
> 
> Ron Spruell Sr
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain M.
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:48 PM
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] JEMM troubles - with VESA LFB
> 
> Sorry, I was thinking that you both were a third person ;-)
> 
> So my comment was directed to that 3rd non-existing person :(
> 
> Alain
> 
> Japheth escreveu:
>>> Remember that there is a parameter in HIMEM to set apart a little memory 
>>> for int15.. Did you try that?
>> I tried nothing because it is Eric who has a crashing program. :)
>>
>> And from the error descriptions I got so far the problem is inside the 
>> DOS-extended application, not in the EMM.
>>
>> What might convince me that there is something to do is if the program
> runs 
>> with MS Emm386, but fails with Jemm. :)
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] LiveCD could not find Kernel

[Alain M.]

Hi Ed,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
> Alain you stated:
> *
> I googled a lot on this subject: it seems that it is not possible to 
> boot from a CD when you are in grub. I have successfully booted floppy, 
> changed active partition from grub and even swap disks in such a way 
> that WinXP boots from the second disk...
> 
> I have already tested that using the tab key in grub ignores the CD, so 
> if you only get hd0,0 it is because there is only on disk with only one 
> partition.
> ***
> Your interpretation of what I was observing makes tons of sense.  I have 
> knocked my head against the wall on this and have to say you must be right on 
> this one.  The live CD's are not just using the grub with an initrd and a 
> kernel.  They have to have a big work around on this one.  Thanks so much for 
> your posting.  I have been trying to do what can't be done the way I was 
> doing it.  I just have to find some other way of accomplishing my CD Boot.  
> In SUSE Linux in their administrative documentation they talk about using 
> grub and the CD boot.  I think that their documentation has a serious problem 
> because they say to label the cd as root.  As you distinctly stated and my 
> working with grub demonstrated the CD isn't recognized even thought that is 
> where the grub is.

Well, are using a really old machine? Otherwise, what I do is to 
configure the BIOS for boot from CD first and then HD. So the whenever I 
insert a bootable CD it just ... boots!

I know of another solution the I never tested: you can have a boot 
floppy that starts the boot from the CD. It was used a lot on old 
machines that did not have BIOS option to boot from CD. That floppy 
could be selected from Grub.

There must be a way to use something equivalent to the second option but 
using a program somewhere...

Alain
> 
> Thanks so much for your interpretaton.
> 
> Ed
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Re: [Freedos-user] File Access denied

[Alain M.]

What has been said here, a few months back, is that Samba server and 
CIFS clent is working ok with file locks.

Also you should check wich version of FreeDOS you are using. It couls be 
helpfull do test with MS-DOS to make sure where the problem is.

Of course, I assume that your works ok, with se same configuration on a 
non-dosemu setup ;-)

Alain

Keith Williams escreveu:
> Hi Eric,
> 
> I did load share. Sorry I should have mentioned that. For testing
> purposes, linux permissions are open on 777 recursively, but still the
> same problem. I have been struggling with this for 2 months allready.
> Even tried putting the shared files on a CIFS server. Same results.
> 
> Keith
> 
> On Jan 17, 2008 4:33 PM, Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi! (please use plain text mail without html)
>>
>>
>>> Is there anybody that runs Foxbase+ V.2.0 for DOS on FreeDOS?
>>> What I am trying to achieve is run a foxbase application on Linux
>>> with DOSEMU and freedos. Right.
>> Maybe you get better results if you load SHARE... Please also
>> compare diskimage (can be diskette or special DOSEMU FAT16 as
>> generated by dosemu tools) drives to "Linux directory used as
>> drive" drives.
>>
>> Problems when several users access the same file sound like
>> shared file access problems :-).


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Re: [Freedos-user] Network sharing

[Alain M.]

Fabien Meghazi escreveu:
> 
> 2) SMB :
> I tried the msclient with no luck.
> Besides, I heard it uses a lot of memory and I guess it could be a
> nightmare to setup
> with the different smb versions out there. So I dropped this option.

You should try www.netbootdisk.com it is easy and it works with packet 
driver and Samba client. Than you just copy the config files and run 
them them fron freedos.

This is taking you so much time for nothing...


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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS/EGA TrueType font

[Alain M.]

Thanks Mateusz,

Do you have an image of all the gliphs that you draw? it could be 
usefull to check if we are getting what should be.= and if there is what 
we need ;-)

Alain

Mateusz Viste escreveu:
> Hello,
> 
> Sorry for being a bit offtopic, as this news isn't really FreeDOS-related...
> 
> I made a TTF font which is exactly the same as the standard DOS/FreeDOS font. 
> I redrawn each glyph using FontForge (a nice Linux font tool), and took the 
> FreeDOS *.cpi files as models. I named the font "DOS/EGA".
> 
> It's a vectorised TrueType font, therefore it may be used in any 
> size/resolution, in any TTF-enabled operating system. Personally, I am using 
> it when I want to print some source code, and have it set as default in my 
> notepad :-)
> 
> The TTF is in Unicode-BMP encoding, and I included as much glyphs as I could. 
> It supports the following languages: english, polish, french, german, and 
> maybe czech, spanish and some others too (I do not checked what glyphs are 
> needed for other languages).
> 
> Anyway, the download is here: http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/dos/dosega.zip (11 
> kb)
> 
> bye!
> Mateusz Viste

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Re: [Freedos-user] Slow Packet Driver (e100bpkt - Crynwr)

[Alain M.]

Blair Campbell escreveu:
>>
>>  I've tried downloading the file 1 time on each OS, both hit same speed!
>>  *i did same file because servers farther away are  bit slower*
>>
>>  I don't know what's Wrong.
> 
> My guess is that since FreeDOS is single-tasking, it is naturally
> going to download things from the internet more slowly than
> multitasking operating systems.

Not nescessarily, using Erik Engelke (WatTcp author) FTP.exe, I can 
transfer files at 3Mbytes/s in pure FreeDOS, I don't remember if I timed 
it in dosemu, but it is reasonably fast...

The big problem is to setup tap+bridge+... I found no clear tutorial or 
script.

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Re: [Freedos-user] New Freedos and Linux user. Trouble with PPPoE. Please help !

[Alain M.]

Michael Reichenbach escreveu:
> 
> It`s quite problematic to run FreeDOS on modern hardware.

Amazingly it is not. Runs very well in on any machine, I use it 
professionaly!

Alain


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Re: [Freedos-user] New Freedos and Linux user. Trouble with PPPoE. Please help !

[Alain M.]

I may add a few commentes:

Video allways work with vesa, never had a problem

Network qorks 90% of the time. There is a disk NETBOOTDISK that installs 
a PacketDriver that works on most machines (using NDIS2). I just had to 
write a small batch file to copy the configured files do C: so that they 
can called later.

SATA are fine allways, only a bit slow because we don't have a DMA 
driver. SATA usialy are 5MB/s, IDE are 6MB/s and IDE+UDMA are 36MB/s

I don't use sound...

Alain

Eric Auer escreveu:
> Hi Michael,
> 
>> It`s quite problematic to run FreeDOS on modern hardware.
>> (lack hardware and driver support)
> 
> I disagree... For example somebody recently asked me how
> he could remove a preinstalled FreeDOS from his PC, as he
> wanted to install Windows. It turned out that his SATA
> harddisk was supported by BIOS (and DOS) but not by the
> default install of Windows, so he had to use some driver
> disk to be able to install Windows on that computer.
> 
> Keyboard, mouse and harddisk are almost always DOS compatible.
> If you can boot from it, it is DOS compatible. And USB mouse
> and keyboard are often supported via some "legacy" BIOS option
> which makes them look like PS2 mouse and keyboard for DOS.
> 
> Next aspects are graphics and network: Graphics almost always
> supports VGA or even VESA VBE BIOS functions, and often has
> hardware VGA compatibility, so DOS text mode and DOS games
> should work just fine. Sometimes new functions take too much
> space and old functions are dropped: A typical aspect is the
> 8x14 EGA font. Luckily you can load a TSR which contains such
> a font, so EGA games will work even if your BIOS has no 8x14.
> 
> Network can be more tricky. Either you get a network card with
> a classic chip, like Realtek rtl8139, and use a DOS packet
> driver from crynwr or similar sources for that. Or you check
> if there is an ODI or NDIS driver for your network card and
> then you use a wrapper from ODI/NDIS to packet. You should
> find HOWTOs about this online. Even my current nForce board
> uses a GBit LAN chip for which official nVidia ODI/NDIS DOS
> drivers exist. I believe this is because GHOST with network
> drives is still a popular DOS app and this somehow likes the
> "network drive" related ODI/NDIS drivers?
> 
> The CPU and RAM of a modern PC are still trivially supported
> by DOS. Of course my dual core AMD Athlon64EE (energy efficient,
> now also available as BE which uses even less energy) is quite
> under-used in DOS: there are no 64bit calculations in DOS, you
> cannot use more than 4 GB RAM in DOS, and you can only use one
> of the cores. But still DOS is happy to run on this hardware.
> 
>> In the long run emulation will be the way to keep DOS alive.
> 
> I only agree for one aspect: an emulated soundblaster so old
> DOS games can play sound while you really have AC97 or HDA :-).
> 
> There were some discussions about this on the BTTR forum recently:
> you could use AC97 drivers from MPXPLAY (a DOS media player) or
> from Linux Alsa-Project and the emulated soundblaster of DOSEMU
> (or Bochs, Qemu, similar...) to create a DOS "driver" which uses
> virtualization functions from, for example JEMM386 to trap all
> access from games to soundblaster, simulate a soundblaster, get
> all the audio data, and play it using the real AC97 hardware.
> A similar project already exists from somebody in Russia:
> 
>> Virtual Sound Blaster is here:
>>> zap.eltrast.ru/en/dldos.html
>> VSB sources are here, Assembly:
>>> cs.ozerki.net/zap/pub/vsb/
> (found by Spiro, thanks :-))
> 
> www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=3174&page=0&order=time&category=all
> (this also discusses whether there can be a bounty - we can collect
> some funds to motivate volunteers to write a JLM sound driver module)
> 
> Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Good soundcard?

[Alain M.]

What is audio quality as good as something from this year?

Can you really tell the difference betwen anything better than a sound 
blaster? At least you will need very expensive speakers, in that case 
you can afford two sound cards :)


Michael Reichenbach escreveu:
> Florian Xaver schrieb:
>> I am using SBLive here, if you only want to use Mpxplay or QV it works
>> very good. If you  want to use the driver for emulating SB16, I think
>> that I heard, that an old mainboard has to be used.
>>
> 
> One more question. Does SBLive work in Windows XP or Vista or Linux? Or 
> is it incompatible?
> 
> How is the sound quality in new operating systems? Is it bad/outdated or 
> is it excellent (competing with any soundcard from this year)?
> 
> If you have XP/Vista and/or Linux... Does it interferer with onboard 
> sound? I mean, if soundqualty is worse with SBLive then with onboard 
> sound... Can in Windows still onboard sound used?
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Re: [Freedos-user] computer restarting without error message

[Alain M.]

I believe that you will have a hard time making that work, but I may 
suggest an alternative:

Make a different partition for all your dada and make it encrypted. You 
can manage to have your data available from both both XT and FreeDOS.

I use a similar setup where my data is allways D: and C: is many things: 
FreeDOS on HW, Dosemu, Win98, XT, VMware and many permutations of those. 
After a time you can have a working environment with all of them.

ALain

Michael Reichenbach escreveu:
> Hi!
> 
> I made a little 'experiment'.
> (1) created a virtual machine
> (2) formated the virtual harddisk with fat32 with Windows XP setup
> (3) installed Windows XP
> (4) copied all files (gldr and such) from the directory 
> grub4dos-0.4.3-2008-05-02 to C:\
> (5) added in C:\boot.ini
> C:\grldr="Start GRUB4DOS"
> (6) copied FreeDOS files (kernel.sys and command.com) to C:\
> (7) tested if I could dual boot XP and FreeDOS - worked
> 
> (8) installed TrueCrypt 5.1a
> (9) selected to encrypt system disk with TrueCrypt (whole drive)
> (10) made pretest
> (11) not started to encrypt, only the 'bootguard' was installed
> 
> (12) restarted and selected grub4dos at nt bootloader
> (13) attempted to start FreeDOS (kernel.sys) - did not work - computer 
> restarted very fast automatically. I could read "FreeDOS Kernel" before 
> but the computer restarts so fast I can not press pause and read any 
> other output.
> 
> Any idea?
> 
> You can see it as a 'bug report'. Because I could read 'FreeDOS Kernel' 
> (the kernel started) but then the system rebooted without any error 
> message or error handling.
> 
> Maybe you are interested in what I wanted to test So some lines about.
> I *suspect* TrueCrypt hooks the BIOS interrupt with the encryption 
> driver in stage one (stage two would be hooking the windows 32 bit 
> controller driver). So I thought if FreeDOS would use the (hooked) BIOS 
> interrupt also it could access the same encrypted disk.
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] put drivers in XMS

[Alain M.]

Eric Auer escreveu:
> 
> [...] and that you can use Jack's UIDE driver with UDMA
> and SATA harddisk and cdrom support and [...]

Does this mean anything about fast SATA drivers?

Alain

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[Freedos-user] UDMA drivers, please report usage...

[Alain M.]

That is a prety impressive driver...

I would like to know who is using it and in what situations, specially
real-world cases (as oposed to simulations, not fantasy :) )

thanks to all,
Alain

Eric Auer escreveu:
> Hi!
> 
>>> [...] and that you can use Jack's UIDE driver with UDMA
>>> and SATA harddisk and cdrom support and [...]
>> Does this mean anything about fast SATA drivers?
> 
> No idea, please find out...
> 
> www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/system/udma+drivers/
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] How to invoke dosemu when screen less than 25 lines high

[Alain M.]

IMHO, if this works, you will have problems with most dos programs...

Couldn't you find a font that is just a bit smaller? you would get less 
problems.

OTOH, you could use that same font in dosemu configuration.

Please keep us informed, I am particularly interested in this topic :)
Alain

Larry escreveu:
> You could make a command that launches an xterm then
> runs dosemu. To start an xterm with some specific
> number of columns and lines, use the -geometry option.
> 
> For example: xterm -geometry 80x20 -e dosemu
> 
> launches dosemu in an 80 column by 20 line display.
> 
> I don't know if this is adequate for your application,
> but you might try it.
> 
> --- Larry Alkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I'm using Kubuntu Hardy Heron on a Dell laptop which
>> has a wide screen.
>> I always use dosemu with the large vga12x30.pcf font
>> which my old eyes 
>> can see.
>>
>> When I invoke dosemu, the bottom 2 or 3 lines are
>> chopped off.
>>
>> Apparently dosemu is trying to use an 80x25 screen
>> that won't fit.
>>
>> I know there is a way to change the screen
>> parameters with
>> stty cols 80 rows 25.
>>
>> How could I use stty to specify an 80x23 screen?
>> Or should I change something else like /etc/dosemu
>> or ~/.dosemurc?
>>
>> Larry
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Re: [Freedos-user] VirtualBox troubles

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Larry escreveu:
> I run freedos in vmware.

I use it sometimes. The only problem is that graphics mode is 
vry slow.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1

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> Why do you ask for "broader network card support" then? ;-)

This exists :) :)

www.netbootdisk.com works like magic. I only had to make a small batch 
file to save the configuration to C:\NET and that is it!

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Re: [Freedos-user] put drivers in XMS

[Alain M.]

just fo fun, try using this, you will need tuntap and others :)
--
#? Habilita conexões
# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

# Libera acesso ao tuntap
chmod 666 /dev/net/tun

# Cria um Bridge
brctl addbr br0
# Re-conecta eth0 no Bridge
ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 promisc up
brctl addif br0 eth0
# Agora quem tem o IP é o Bridge
ifconfig br0 $SYS_IP netmask 255.255.255.0 up
# cria 3 devices tap0 tap1 tap2
tunctl -u $DOS_USER -t tap0
tunctl -u $DOS_USER -t tap1
tunctl -u $DOS_USER -t tap2
# Ativa cada um
ifconfig tap0 0.0.0.0 promisc up
ifconfig tap1 0.0.0.0 promisc up
ifconfig tap2 0.0.0.0 promisc up
# conecta com Bridge
brctl addif br0 tap0
brctl addif br0 tap1
brctl addif br0 tap2

# dispositivo do VMware
brctl addif br0 vmnet1

# Recria Rota para o Gateway
route add -net 0.0.0.0 gw $SYS_GW

# mostra o Bridge e rotas (demora na primeira vez)
brctl show
route -n

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Larry escreveu:
> I'm trying, just for fun, to get arachne to run in Freedos in dosemu on my 
> Linux machine. No luck so far. 
> 
> I'm trying to use the tap thing. Use the lunctl command to make a lun0 and 
> set it up with ifconfig.
> 
> But when I try to run xdos, first I get a "cannot allocate TAP device, and 
> arachne doesn't see a network.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Aitor Santamaría <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> From: Aitor Santamaría <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] put drivers in XMS
>> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 5:33 PM
>> Hello,
>>
>> 2008/6/3 Michael Reichenbach
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> iw2evk schrieb:
 It's possible under freedos 1.0 put the
>> drivers in XMS insted UMB?
 Can be used cloaking.exe , and in wich modality?

 many thanks in advance.

 Roberto iw2evk
>>> Hey!
>>>
>>> I had some time ago a similar suggestion. Loading into
>> EMS/XMS would be
>>> a bad idea because more outdated applications use
>> EMS/XMS.
>>
>> Well, in fact it gave me idea that EMS could actually be
>> suitable for
>> DISPLAY: you book a couple of contiguous pages, then upon
>> call to
>> int10h select those pages as available.
>>
>> Note (Eric) that these changes wouldn't change at all
>> the DISPLAY
>> core, but the particular EGA/VGA driver.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Aitor
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Re: [Freedos-user] freecom portuguese brazilian translation recovery

[Alain M.]

Eric Auer escreveu:
> I found a binary copy of a Brazilian Portuguese freecom
> command.com (ca 11/2005 or older) in my archives... This
> is, as far as I remember, from Alain or Henrique who lost
> his source text file...

That was me :) all my machines were stolen the same weekend :(

>  So I extracted all text strings
> from the binary, preserving the accented chars in the DOS
> codepage they were written in :-).

It was codepage 850, one of the big fixes because the former translation 
was pure ascii

>  If anybody wants to
> have a look, I can send you the 10 kB zip file. To turn
> it into a compileable file again, you have to take the
> ca 250 :TEXT_... and :PROMPT_... labels from a message
> file of another translation and insert them at the right
> places in the right order. Probably relatively simple,
> as the order of strings should not have changed much over
> time. You still need some proof-reading to check where
> messages changed or new ones got introduced, but it would
> be nice to have at least a raw Brazilian version again.
> I hope somebody likes the idea :-).

I do :) I just didn't get it right: do you mean that it can be compiled 
again in the same standard way ?

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Re: [Freedos-user] MSEDIT v0.10 came out!

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Hi Mateusz,

Are you using Kitten? IIRC you are doin a clone of M$-edit, and I could 
be interested in translating it, if the possibility exists.

If you want guidelines about that, please ask here, we will be glad to 
help (me and surely others)

Alain

Mateusz Viste escreveu:
> Hi!
> 
> I released few minutes ago the new version of Mateusz's Saucy Editor: MSEDIT 
> v0.10 :-)
> This is no more an alpha version, although it's still lacking many functions. 
> However, it's useable as a (simple) text editor.
> 
> Here is the full change log:
> 
> What's new in v0.10 [20 Jul 2008]:
> - Implementation of the menu system,
> - Added multiple files support (up to 9 files at a time),
> - Dynamically resizes the file's buffer when needed (was hardcoded to a fixed 
> size),
> - Checks the video mode before starting (won't run on less than 80 columns),
> - Added the "File/New" function,
> - Added a (very basic) "File/Open" function,
> - Added the "File/Save" function,
> - Added a (very basic) "File/Save As" function,
> - Added the "File/Close" function,
> - Added the "FBC mode" (doesn't work yet),
> - Added "scrolling" ability without changing cursor's position (CTRL+UP/DOWN),
> - Possibility to load several files (up to 9) from the command line,
> - Displays percents of progress when saving/loading a file,
> - Fixed a bug related to the DEL key (when pressed at the end of a line, it 
> was erasing the first char of the next line),
> - Limited the internal screen refresh rate to 40 Hz,
> - When creating a new line (ENTER), any spaces at the end of the current line 
> are removed,
> - Added auto-indentation for every new created line (ENTER),
> - Added an "About" info-screen (F2, or Help/About),
> - Adding an empty last line.
> 
> Download: http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/dos/en/download.php?plik=msedit
> 
> bye,
> Mateusz Viste
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] superFDISK

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Eric Auer escreveu:
 >
>> Also, there is no source code available.
> 
> You are right, it is not open source. So it is only free
> as in free beer but not free as in free speech... :-).

Why is it that you don't need sources to get drunk for free?
Why dou need sources to get on your soap box and make a speech?

For me this is one of the greatest misteries in the internet...

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Re: [Freedos-user] about install freeDOS over vmware

[Alain M.]

Hi,

I use FreeDOS for a long time with VMware without any kind of problem, 
but there is a strangeness to VMware:

One NIC connects only to ONE OF host machine OR network. It is strange 
and not easy to workaround. On Win98 I just configured 2 cards and let 
it run, On FreeDOS there might be some config but it can take some time.

So... check if this is happening :) it would a valuable information

Alain

danielpg Sourceforge escreveu:
> 
> I'm going to use the prefix ---> for my replies to Eric message
> 
>  >>
> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:13:42 +0200 (MEST)
> From: Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] about install freeDOS over vmware
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> >Hi!!
> 
>  > -At the end the install will try to configure, but probably hang up
>  > (do not worry)
> 
> Maybe if you tell vmware to activate the network before you install?
> This is MOMENT X, see below.
> 
> ---> I had the network activated in vmware, before start to install, 
> moreover i tried some times and all times the install crash.
> 
> http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall
> http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies
> 
> Suggests another solution: Do not install network related packages
> at that moment - install them later. This avoids the MOMENT X hang.
> 
> ---> I didn't try this option, because i  want all the packages, but it 
> is a good idea do not select network
> 
> 
>  > -After reset FreeDos.
>  > -You could see a boot menu with memory options (option 2 EMM386+EMS:
>  > crash in vmware) you must choose 1 or 3
> 
> What are 1 or 3? And do things work if you replace emm386 by
> www.japheth.de  jemm386 which is more up to date? 
> You may want
> to read its docs to adjust the (fd)config dot sys line further.
> 
> > these were the options
> >MENUDEFAULT=2,5
> >MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
> >MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386+EMS and SHARE
> >MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver
> >MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers
> 
> 
>  > -Configuring the network card (vmware emulate a AMD 79c970A -PCNET 
> family)
> 
> Using vmware config screen I assume...
> 
> > In vmware you can select the model of networkcard(or I don't know 
> the method). I needed to search info to know the model card emulated.
> 
> 
>  > -Go to fdos directory (cd fdos)
>  > -In theory you must execute crynwr.bat file (script) BUT there
>  > is a problem in the script when you select 1 or 5 then script
>  > crash (*).
> 
> What is 1 or 5?
> 
> 
> >from crynwr.bat
> >
> >echo 1) Attempt to detect PCI-based adapters (recommended)
> >echo 2) Select an ISA-based packet driver and specify parameters
> >echo 3) Use a driver disk and load a vendor-provided driver
> >echo 4) Load a QEMU compatible driver
> >echo 5) Load a VMWare compatible driver
> >echo 6) Shell to DOS to load a driver
> >echo 7) Dial via a modem
> >echo 8) Do not load a packet driver
> >echo.
> >choice /t1,10 /n /c:12345678
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  > However the solution is very simple:
>  > You can execute the next command:
>  > c:\FDOS\drivers\net\crynwr\pcntpk int=0x60
> 
> Or even better, add it to your autoexec or fdos fdauto dot bat :-)
> 
> >when i wrote this instructions i was thinking in people with the 
> minimun experience with DOS, because i write in a blog before to write 
> here. (www.bloglon.blogspot.com )
> 
> 
>  
>  > ***network working :)
> 
>  > and now you can surf in internet with arachne webbrowser
>  > c:\FDOS\arachne\arachne
> 
>  > (*) my point of view about the script problem, I think the main 
> reasons are:
> 
>  > - c:\fdos\temp directory isn't created
>  > - FreeDos by default doesn't start autoexec (i don't know why)
> 
> It might by default use c:/fdos/fdauto.* instead, look at your
> config or fdconfig dot sys file ;-) This is to make it easier
> to install FreeDOS and for example Windows 98 on the same disk.
> 
> >my FDconfig.sys 
> >SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\command.com  C:\FDOS\bin 
> /E:1024 /P=C:\autoexec.bat
> 
>  > - crynwr script try to write in a variable %autofile% and this variable
> 
>  > don't exist, i suppose %autofile% should be assigned to autoexec
>  > - FreeDos by default doesn't start autoexec ?why?
> 
> See above. Another possibility is that it WOULD have
> configured all that after MOMENT X, so maybe things
> work a lot better if you avoid the "moment x hang",
> see above. Let me know if that helps, thanks :-)
> 
> >I will try this in a future, but I think It will be good to have a 
> good instructions for normal people (maybe people who never used MsDOS).
> >You give some ideas, and i will try, but really i haven't big 
> problems because i used MsDOS in 

Re: [Freedos-user] Emulating obsolete HW in FreeDOS

[Alain M.]

You question is clear... but incomplete...

What hardware are you talking about. There are *many* possibilities, but 
but different solutions for different hw and/or problems.

To name a few: VMware/Qemu/VirtualBox/DosBox/Boshs/Dosemu/etc... each 
acn do some nice little tricks :)

Alain

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
> Hi All,
> 
> Thank you for such an interesting discussion and all the great work on 
> FreeDOS!
> 
> I have managed to install FreeDOS with VMWare player with Windows XP and 
> it works great.
> I'm using DOS 16/M so I disable EMM386, etc and have no problems.
> 
> I now have the challenge of figuring out how to emulate some obsolete 
> hardware.  My application
> uses direct memory writes to an obsolete peripheral communications 
> device.   I can see a couple of
> solutions to this:
> 
> 1)  Re write the application to use WATTCP or something similar.
> 
> 2) Leave the application alone and modify the emulator (like VMWare 
> Player) to provide a bridge between
> the fixed shared memory addresses and some sort of standard Windows (or 
> even Linux) interfaces.
> 
> Leaving the application alone has some benefits since it's pretty 
> complex, brittle and old.
> 
> So option 1 is pretty obvious and I could run the app either with 
> FreeDOS booted directly on the hardware
> or booted on VMWare under Liunx or Windows.
> 
> Option 2 is what I'm trying to explore -- has anyone had experience with 
> this?  Does either VMWare or
> DOSEmu have capabilities in this area?  How tough would it be to modify 
> either of these two environments
> to provide some sort of memory range which is shared between FreeDOS and 
> the emulator which would
> then communicate to the outside world?
> 
> I hope my question is clear...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Emulating obsolete HW in FreeDOS

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

What you want is to use the old board? Then you should try Dosemu, just 
as Erik said...

Dosemu is a very fas Linux aplication and you will have real access to 
your hardware. It even has a resource locking interface with the main OS.

Now, if you want to develop something, why not just use a normal serial?

> I was impressed at how quickly I got a Linux environment running on my PC..

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Re: [Freedos-user] How to get sound on...

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I believe thare is something for AC97...

Michael Reichenbach escreveu:
> Hi!
> 
> How to get sound on:
> a) desktop computers and motherboards without PCI (and for sure also no ISA)
> B) new notebooks without sb16 onboard
> ?
> 
> Currently impossible?
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dual core Athlon BE-2350 processor

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I have installed FreeDOS is many 64 bit processors, never had any problem.

IMHO the important part is "drive not ready", this is probably a dirver 
issue. Remember that all DOSes use disks through the bios, so it is the 
bios responsability to do that...

In fact I noteiced that as a mater of fact most bioses are getting 
better, MSI uses DMA for bios access, with 36Mb/s!!!

Alain

Graham Young escreveu:
> Since updating to the above processor I have been unable to install Freedos 
> except by using Virtual Box or dosbox on my linux OS. These methods rather 
> limit the speed and size of the applications I wish to use.
> 
> The installation hangs with "drive not ready " messages.  I tried, therefore, 
> to install a previous (Athlon XP) version which I had compressed  before 
> installing the new processor, only to receive "invalid opcode" messages.
> 
> Does all this mean that Freedos will not run on an X86_64 processor, or is 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Packet driver: Realtek RTL8211B

[Alain M.]

try www.netbootdisk.com

if it works, I can help you installing it permnently

Alain

Lester Vanhoff escreveu:
> The network adapter on my computer is:
> 
> Realtek RTL8211B 10/100/1000 Ethernet
> 
> There doesn't seem to be any DOS packet drivers available. The links 
> below look like a way around, but which of NE2000 drivers listed is 
> the best:
> 
> - ne2000.zip
> - NovellAnthemNE2000.zip
> - ne2000driveranddiagn...isk.zip
> - ez2000pl.zip
> 
> http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=561409
> 
> http://www.network-drivers.com/companies/715.htm
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] ftp server as TSR / map ftp server as drive letter TSR

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Michael Reichenbach escreveu:
> pcdos2k schrieb:
>>> Maybe you find something there. I used EZ-NOS2 as DOS
>>> ftp-server for some time. But it won't run as DOS TSR.
>> eznos2 can shell to dos.
> 
> Shell to dos is nearly the same as TSR?

Yes, only will probably have very little free memory.

> Nice, but unfortunately it isn't working under VMware. Perhaps I should
> switch to Bochs for DOS emulation.

it should work. I have used VMware and there is no special problem. Only 
you need the correct packet driver and a small program for cpu hog

Alain


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Re: [Freedos-user] ftp server as TSR / map ftp server as drive letter TSR

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Michael Reichenbach escreveu:
> Program for cpu hog? Do you mean
> dosidle or idle.com

that is what I mean :)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Can write but not read network share

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Ulrich Hansen escreveu:
> 
> Fact is, Jemmex crashes quite often for me if the conventional memory 
> is low, so I don't know if it's MS Client related.

That is troublesome... Are there more JEMMEX's related problems?

Alain

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Re: [Freedos-user] COCO 3 emulator not working...

[Alain M.]

I believe that you should never mix emm386 and himem between any dos 
version. Ths is for dosemu too, which has it's own

Alain

robinson-west user escreveu:
> On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 12:50 -0500, Jim Hall wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:05 PM, robinson-west user
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> http://www.vavasour.ca/jeff/trs80.html
>>>
>>> I get an error from freedos's emm386.exe.  Has anyone gotten this
>>> emulator to work under Freedos?  I have trouble getting it to work
>>> in MS-DOS 6.22 also, when I try to run it, the computer reboots.
>>> I think it was designed for MS-DOS 3.3.  The emulator is freeware
>>> and I believe the source is available.  This would be a nice addition
>>> to freedos if that's possible and someone can get it to work.
>>>
>> Hi. Have you tried this with Jemm instead? I know some users have
>> reported that things work with Jemm where they wouldn't with Emm386.
>> Might be worth a try.
>>
>> http://www.freedos.org/cgi-bin/lsm.cgi?mode=lsm&lsm=base/jemm386.lsm
> 
> I have tried jemm, nothing happens without an expanded memory manager.
> The program just hangs without coming up without expanded memory.  
> Jemm throws an exception 6.  MS-DOS 6.20 emm386 triggers a reboot.
> Freedos emm386.exe crashes with illegal instruction occured.  The
> vgacheck.exe and dskini.exe programs work just fine, it's coco3x.exe
> that doesn't.  I would really like to hear from someone who tries
> this software based color computer emulator, I don't see anything
> stopping that.  Considering that Jeff Vavasour appears to be interested
> in having his emulator available as freeware, it could probably be
> distributed with freedos once someone determines how to get it working.
> 
>  Michael Robinson
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] invalid opcode when loading mode

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There are a lot of problems with different compilers, including bugs. 
What I use is:

TZ=X0Y0

it defines a TimeZone with localtime=UTC and no daylight save time, all 
explicitly. AFAIK it makes everything local time...

Alain

Eric Auer escreveu:
> Hi!
> 
 set TZ=X)Y)
>>> Do not set TZ, it confuses info-zip zip and unzip.
> 
>> However, unzip32 will complain about TZ absent.
> 
> You can ignore that message :-)
> 
>> I have set up TZ and variable confuse nobody.
> 
> As far as I know, there is a known bug in DOS (un)zip
> timezone handling: If you do not set TZ, then it just
> uses local time. But if you do set TZ, the conversion
> between timestamps of files and timestamps inside ZIP
> files and back has unexpected results. For example you
> zip a file in DOS, unzip in Windows or Linux, and the
> timestamp of the unzipped file ends up being wrong...
> I think there was an update of info-zip for DOS this
> year, maybe they fixed this bug at that time?
> 
> Eric
> 
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