[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-04-08 Thread Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users

On ke, 08 huhti 2020, Christopher Paul via FreeIPA-users wrote:



On 4/8/20 12:57 AM, Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users wrote:
> On 25.03.20 20:01, Christopher Paul via FreeIPA-users wrote:
> > On 3/25/20 4:44 AM, Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users wrote:
> > > On 25.02.20 17:26, Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > Some people are panicking and want to switch everything to LDAPS.  For
> > > > those there is additional enhancement in works. For everyone 
> > > > else there

> > > > is no need to do anything.
> > > 
> > > As AD people in our organization start "panicking" we will need 
> > > the additional enhancement very soon. Where can I find more 
> > > about it?
> > 
> > I don't think there's any reason anyone needs to panic. Microsoft 
> > updated their ADV190023 a few weeks ago to add this: "The March 10, 
> > 2020 and updates in the foreseeable future will *not* make changes 
> > to LDAP signing or LDAP channel binding policies or their registry 
> > equivalent on new or existing domain controllers."
> > 
> > If you or they do still have questions, give me a call or email and 
> > I'll be happy to talk to you
> > 
> AD guys do not stop to talk about "everything LDAPS" in our company. Is 
> it possible that they switch domain controllers to LDAPS only from a 
> technical point of view? Because if it is they will do so and IPA needs 
> to be prepared for that. In that case I really need to know what is "in 
> the works" and how to adapt our IPA servers to the new situation...
> 
> Cheers,

> Ronald
> 
Hey Ronald,


Yes it's possible. Everything is possible, with the time and money, and the 
right experts on the job.


Correct. The work is happening in corresponding upstreams. If you are
curious about channel bindings, follow the thread on krbdev@ for
starters (it goes over months):
http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/krbdev/2020-February/013215.html
PR: https://github.com/krb5/krb5/pull/1047

On samba-technical@:
https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2020-February/134845.html
MR: https://gitlab.com/samba-team/samba/-/merge_requests/1262

CyrusSASL: https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-sasl/pull/601

OpenLDAP: 
https://lists.openldap.org/hyperkitty/list/openldap-de...@openldap.org/thread/ACLFYWEWIQVUUF3JDDSV3HZZQWXKB7N7/

Eventually it all converges in 1) upstream releases, 2) distribution
releases.

As Microsoft mentioned in the revision notes to ADV190023, they are not
planning to enforce any of the LDAP channel bindings and LDAP signing
settings any foreseeable future. We can only speculate what caused this
turnaround.

FreeIPA defaults, as they are, already enforce signing and sealing with
SASL GSSAPI over normal LDAP port for trusted forest domain controllers'
communication.


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Security / Identity Management Engineering
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[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-04-08 Thread Christopher Paul via FreeIPA-users



On 4/8/20 12:57 AM, Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users wrote:

On 25.03.20 20:01, Christopher Paul via FreeIPA-users wrote:

On 3/25/20 4:44 AM, Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users wrote:

On 25.02.20 17:26, Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users wrote:

[...]
Some people are panicking and want to switch everything to LDAPS.  For
those there is additional enhancement in works. For everyone else 
there

is no need to do anything.


As AD people in our organization start "panicking" we will need the 
additional enhancement very soon. Where can I find more about it?


I don't think there's any reason anyone needs to panic. Microsoft 
updated their ADV190023 a few weeks ago to add this: "The March 10, 
2020 and updates in the foreseeable future will *not* make changes to 
LDAP signing or LDAP channel binding policies or their registry 
equivalent on new or existing domain controllers."


If you or they do still have questions, give me a call or email and 
I'll be happy to talk to you


AD guys do not stop to talk about "everything LDAPS" in our company. 
Is it possible that they switch domain controllers to LDAPS only from 
a technical point of view? Because if it is they will do so and IPA 
needs to be prepared for that. In that case I really need to know what 
is "in the works" and how to adapt our IPA servers to the new situation...


Cheers,
Ronald


Hey Ronald,

Yes it's possible. Everything is possible, with the time and money, and 
the right experts on the job.


CP


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[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-04-08 Thread Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users

On 25.03.20 20:01, Christopher Paul via FreeIPA-users wrote:

On 3/25/20 4:44 AM, Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users wrote:

On 25.02.20 17:26, Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users wrote:

[...]
Some people are panicking and want to switch everything to LDAPS.  For
those there is additional enhancement in works. For everyone else there
is no need to do anything.


As AD people in our organization start "panicking" we will need the 
additional enhancement very soon. Where can I find more about it?


I don't think there's any reason anyone needs to panic. Microsoft 
updated their ADV190023 a few weeks ago to add this: "The March 10, 
2020 and updates in the foreseeable future will *not* make changes to 
LDAP signing or LDAP channel binding policies or their registry 
equivalent on new or existing domain controllers."


If you or they do still have questions, give me a call or email and 
I'll be happy to talk to you


AD guys do not stop to talk about "everything LDAPS" in our company. Is 
it possible that they switch domain controllers to LDAPS only from a 
technical point of view? Because if it is they will do so and IPA needs 
to be prepared for that. In that case I really need to know what is "in 
the works" and how to adapt our IPA servers to the new situation...


Cheers,
Ronald


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[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-03-25 Thread Christopher Paul via FreeIPA-users

On 3/25/20 4:44 AM, Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users wrote:

On 25.02.20 17:26, Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users wrote:

[...]
Some people are panicking and want to switch everything to LDAPS.  For
those there is additional enhancement in works. For everyone else there
is no need to do anything.


As AD people in our organization start "panicking" we will need the 
additional enhancement very soon. Where can I find more about it?


I don't think there's any reason anyone needs to panic. Microsoft 
updated their ADV190023 a few weeks ago to add this: "The March 10, 2020 
and updates in the foreseeable future will *not* make changes to LDAP 
signing or LDAP channel binding policies or their registry equivalent on 
new or existing domain controllers."


If you or they do still have questions, give me a call or email and I'll 
be happy to talk to you


CP
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chris.p...@rexconsulting.net
831-419-5671

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[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-03-25 Thread Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users

On 25.02.20 17:26, Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users wrote:

[...]
Some people are panicking and want to switch everything to LDAPS.  For
those there is additional enhancement in works. For everyone else there
is no need to do anything.


As AD people in our organization start "panicking" we will need the 
additional enhancement very soon. Where can I find more about it?


Cheers,
Ronald
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[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-03-02 Thread Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users

On 25.02.20 17:26, Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users wrote:

[...]
Some people are panicking and want to switch everything to LDAPS. For
those there is additional enhancement in works. For everyone else there
is no need to do anything.
[...]
According to the information I have our AD guys are switching everything 
to LDAPS only...

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[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-02-25 Thread Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users

On ti, 25 helmi 2020, Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users wrote:

On 25.02.20 16:47, Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users wrote:

[...]
Details are in https://access.redhat.com/articles/4661861 (accessible
with a subscription but even free Developer's subscription is fine).


"Red Hat is working on an SSSD/adcli (RHEL8,RHEL7) enhancement that 
allows the use of ldaps protocol with the SSSD active directory 
provider. This type of configuration is optional and only needed in 
environments where the default LDAP port 389 is closed."


So there is no solution yet?


No changes are needed for the default IPA configuration.

Some people are panicking and want to switch everything to LDAPS.  For
those there is additional enhancement in works. For everyone else there
is no need to do anything.

The only odd thing we found is that Microsoft Windows, it seems, have a
false positive message in the eventlog when SASL GSS-API encrypted
requests are used by FreeIPA. The traffic is all signed and encrypted,
thanks to CyrusSASL automatically enforcing that with Kerberos in use.
Windows Servers respond with a single unsigned packet in a communication
flow but continue to establish a secure and encrypted connection. That
leads to a message but no operational difference. The traffic keeps
flowing, nothing is rejected, etc.



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[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-02-25 Thread Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users

On 25.02.20 16:47, Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users wrote:

[...]
Details are in https://access.redhat.com/articles/4661861 (accessible
with a subscription but even free Developer's subscription is fine).


"Red Hat is working on an SSSD/adcli (RHEL8,RHEL7) enhancement that 
allows the use of ldaps protocol with the SSSD active directory 
provider. This type of configuration is optional and only needed in 
environments where the default LDAP port 389 is closed."


So there is no solution yet?

Cheers,
Ronald
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[Freeipa-users] Re: Domain controllers switch to LDAPS

2020-02-25 Thread Alexander Bokovoy via FreeIPA-users

On ti, 25 helmi 2020, Ronald Wimmer via FreeIPA-users wrote:

Hi,

will Microsofts decision to let domain controllers talk LDAPS only in 
the near future affect IPA sowehow?


Details are in https://access.redhat.com/articles/4661861 (accessible
with a subscription but even free Developer's subscription is fine).


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