Re: [Freeipa-users] FreeIPA on CentOS 5.6

2011-11-09 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:50 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I am an absolute beginner here... So... I have a machine that only has
 512 MB of RAM which is too small to house Fedora. So that machine is
 running CentOS 5.6. And now I want to install FreeIPA on it. Has
 anybody done it? If so, how have you done it?


FreeIPA is not supported on RHEL/CentOS 5.x. It's simply too old and
cannot meet the minimum pre-requisites.


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Re: [Freeipa-users] FreeIPA on CentOS 5.6

2011-11-09 Thread Boris Epstein
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:50 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello all,

 I am an absolute beginner here... So... I have a machine that only has
 512 MB of RAM which is too small to house Fedora. So that machine is
 running CentOS 5.6. And now I want to install FreeIPA on it. Has
 anybody done it? If so, how have you done it?

 I would advice against installing IPA on a machine so starved of RAM
 except for test purposes and small database sizes.

 Simo.

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Simo,

I agree with your advice. But yes, we are a small group, and even if
every user login stalls by a second - well, so be if for now.

How do you do that - that's the question? So far I have succeeded in
neither finding the correct RPM, nor building the source from scratch.
The build process breaks as follows:

...

checking for nss3/nss.h... yes
checking dirsrv/slapi-plugin.h usability... no
checking dirsrv/slapi-plugin.h presence... no
checking for dirsrv/slapi-plugin.h... no
configure: error: Required DS slapi plugin header not available
(fedora-ds-base-devel)
make: *** [bootstrap-autogen] Error 1
[administrator@dellfluor freeipa-1.2.2]$

Any idea how to overcome this?

Thanks.

Boris.

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Re: [Freeipa-users] FreeIPA on CentOS 5.6

2011-11-09 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 13:46 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:50 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I am an absolute beginner here... So... I have a machine that only has
  512 MB of RAM which is too small to house Fedora. So that machine is
  running CentOS 5.6. And now I want to install FreeIPA on it. Has
  anybody done it? If so, how have you done it?
 
 
  FreeIPA is not supported on RHEL/CentOS 5.x. It's simply too old and
  cannot meet the minimum pre-requisites.
 
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 Too old? How?
 
 http://freeipa.org/page/IPAv2_213
 
 This was released in October 2011. So yes, it is over a week old:)
 
 But I doubt that makes it ancient:)
 
 Boris.

Sorry, that will teach me to leave my pronouns ambiguous.

I mean that RHEL/CentOS 5 is too old to be capable of running FreeIPA.
There are too many dependencies of FreeIPA that are unmet.


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Re: [Freeipa-users] FreeIPA on CentOS 5.6

2011-11-09 Thread Boris Epstein
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 13:46 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com 
 wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:50 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I am an absolute beginner here... So... I have a machine that only has
  512 MB of RAM which is too small to house Fedora. So that machine is
  running CentOS 5.6. And now I want to install FreeIPA on it. Has
  anybody done it? If so, how have you done it?
 
 
  FreeIPA is not supported on RHEL/CentOS 5.x. It's simply too old and
  cannot meet the minimum pre-requisites.
 
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 Too old? How?

 http://freeipa.org/page/IPAv2_213

 This was released in October 2011. So yes, it is over a week old:)

 But I doubt that makes it ancient:)

 Boris.

 Sorry, that will teach me to leave my pronouns ambiguous.

 I mean that RHEL/CentOS 5 is too old to be capable of running FreeIPA.
 There are too many dependencies of FreeIPA that are unmet.


This actually came out quite funny:)

Thanks for your advice, by the way.

So what OS would not be too old to run FreeIPA on? Would we be talking CentOS 6?

Boris.

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Re: [Freeipa-users] FreeIPA on CentOS 5.6

2011-11-09 Thread Dmitri Pal
On 11/09/2011 02:23 PM, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 13:46 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com 
 wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:50 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
 Hello all,

 I am an absolute beginner here... So... I have a machine that only has
 512 MB of RAM which is too small to house Fedora. So that machine is
 running CentOS 5.6. And now I want to install FreeIPA on it. Has
 anybody done it? If so, how have you done it?

 FreeIPA is not supported on RHEL/CentOS 5.x. It's simply too old and
 cannot meet the minimum pre-requisites.

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 Freeipa-users@redhat.com
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 Too old? How?

 http://freeipa.org/page/IPAv2_213

 This was released in October 2011. So yes, it is over a week old:)

 But I doubt that makes it ancient:)

 Boris.
 Sorry, that will teach me to leave my pronouns ambiguous.

 I mean that RHEL/CentOS 5 is too old to be capable of running FreeIPA.
 There are too many dependencies of FreeIPA that are unmet.

 This actually came out quite funny:)

 Thanks for your advice, by the way.

 So what OS would not be too old to run FreeIPA on? Would we be talking CentOS 
 6?

Even current CentOS 6 is behind but at least it is closer to what Fedora
15 has and you might get better chance with it.

 Boris.

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Re: [Freeipa-users] FreeIPA on CentOS 5.6

2011-11-09 Thread Sigbjorn Lie
On Wed, November 9, 2011 21:02, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Sigbjorn Lie sigbj...@nixtra.com wrote:


 On Wed, November 9, 2011 20:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

 On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 14:23 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:



 So what OS would not be too old to run FreeIPA on? Would we be talking 
 CentOS 6?



 Boris.



 Well, RHEL 6.2 (due out before the end of the year) will include a
 fully-supported version of FreeIPA as Red Hat Identity Management. 
 Presumably, whenever
 CentOS
 6.2 is released, it will also carry this
 package.

 It's likely to be possible to get it to run on CentOS 6.0, but it will
 require some elbow grease. I also agree with the earlier comments that 
 512MB is not enough to
 run the OS + FreeIPA. ___


 Agreed! Even my test setup with 10 clients started swapping on an IPA server 
 with 1GB of
 memory. It now uses approx 1,7GB of memory after the IPA server was 
 increased to 2GB.



 What if you just give it massive amounts of swap though?


I had plenty of swap... The lookups and responsiveness of both client logins 
and using the webui
increased significantly after adding more memory.

Memory if cheap, 2GB is not asking much.


Rgds,
Siggi


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Re: [Freeipa-users] FreeIPA on CentOS 5.6

2011-11-09 Thread Adam Young

On 11/09/2011 02:27 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 14:23 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:

So what OS would not be too old to run FreeIPA on? Would we be talking CentOS 6?

Boris.

Well, RHEL 6.2 (due out before the end of the year) will include a
fully-supported version of FreeIPA as Red Hat Identity Management.
Presumably, whenever CentOS 6.2 is released, it will also carry this
package.

It's likely to be possible to get it to run on CentOS 6.0, but it will
require some elbow grease. I also agree with the earlier comments that
512MB is not enough to run the OS + FreeIPA.


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If you are looking for a means to evaluate it,  look at a really 
stripped down Fedora 15 Install.


People have also had better success with Scientific Linux  for RHEL6 
parity than they have had with Centos6,  but no guarantees there:  both 
have been significantly  behind the RHEL 6 efforts.









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Re: [Freeipa-users] FreeIPA on CentOS 5.6

2011-11-09 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 15:02 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Sigbjorn Lie sigbj...@nixtra.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, November 9, 2011 20:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
   On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 14:23 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
  
  
   So what OS would not be too old to run FreeIPA on? Would we be talking 
   CentOS 6?
  
  
   Boris.
  
  
   Well, RHEL 6.2 (due out before the end of the year) will include a
   fully-supported version of FreeIPA as Red Hat Identity Management. 
   Presumably, whenever CentOS
   6.2 is released, it will also carry this
   package.
  
   It's likely to be possible to get it to run on CentOS 6.0, but it will
   require some elbow grease. I also agree with the earlier comments that 
   512MB is not enough to run
   the OS + FreeIPA. ___
 
 
  Agreed! Even my test setup with 10 clients started swapping on an IPA 
  server with 1GB of memory.
  It now uses approx 1,7GB of memory after the IPA server was increased to 
  2GB.
 
 
 What if you just give it massive amounts of swap though?

Boris,
I have virtual machines to which I give 768M of Ram, it works ok for few
tests. Of course my host machine has much more RAM and probably caches
the swap. a Bare metal with only 512M would probably be *very* slow.

Although, maybe if you use the (non production/test only) --selfsign
option to not install the PKI then java/tomcat would not be started
which may make it work well enough. But then you wouldn't be able to
fully test the PKI stuff.

Simo.

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