Re: [Freesurfer] Re: question about average7...

2004-03-11 Thread Ray Fix
Thanks for the info Doug.   My comments below.

On Mar 10, 2004, at 1:19 PM, Doug Greve wrote:
Ray Fix wrote:
Hello List,

Question 1:
Where does the sample average7 come from?  I searched through the
manuals, googled, searched around a little but was unable to find any
info.  For example, is this the averaged brains of 7 male subjects in
there 40s?
It's a 7th order icosahedron (163842 vertices). I think the orig
coordinates are supposed to be talariach coordinates averaged over some
subjects (but it does not overlay very well on the talairach brain).
Bruce can give you more details.
Wow.  Interesting.  I never would have guessed.  Thanks.

(Aside:  Let's see ...  20 * 7^2 is only 980 faces so I am not sure 
where all of those vertices are coming from.  Probably some different 
definition of order 7.)


Question 2:
My plan is to create my own ICBM labels using average7 and then apply
them via mri_label2label to two groups of subjects (which happen to be
pediatric data).  Does this stand any chance of working?   I would be
very interested if their are any other approaches you recommend.
It all depends on how you're going to map the labels. What coordinate
system are the ICBM labels in?
I guess I have to look into this more.  Any suggestion on what 
coordinate system should I use?  Perhaps talairach. To be honest my 
only knowledge about labels comes from looking at the recon-all script 
and the one Faq-O-Matic page.

I was told that the labels in FreeSurfer are sort of non-standard.  The 
whole motivation for reporting results in terms of ICBM labels is to 
make the results meaningful a large audience without getting into a 
huge discussion about label definitions.

That said, it is likely that deep consideration was given in coming up 
with the current default labeling scheme.  Maybe someone would like to 
refute my assertion that they are non-standard.   It is something I 
would like to learn more about but am not sure how to find out.

Thank you very much for your comments.

Ray Fix

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[Freesurfer] mri_normalize update

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Teich
The processing of control points in volume/surface creation in
mri_normalize, used by csurf and recon-all, is broken for certain types of
data in the 20040218 release. Please download one of these updates if you
are having trouble:

Darwin, 872KB: 
ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/mri_normalize-20040311-Darwin.tar.gz

Linux, 1263KB: 
ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/mri_normalize-20040311-Linux.tar.gz

To unpack, move the file you download to your freesurfer/ directory, cd 
there, and run tar zxvf filename. It will install 
bin/OS/mri_normalize.


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Kevin Teich


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