Re: [Freesurfer] inflated images

2006-05-18 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Anthony,

a couple of things. First, we do have a metric preservation term in 
the inflation, so that not too much metric distortion is incurred during 
the deformation. But the real answer to your question is that there is 
correspondene  between the inflated and other (e.g. white) surfaces, so we 
can always transfer information like thickness, which is a propert of the 
white and pial surfaces, to be visualized on the inflated.


cheers,
Bruce
 On Thu, 18 May 
2006, anthony gallo wrote:



Hello all,
Can some one edify me regarding how FreeSurfer is able to maintain the same
basic brain geometry (hemisphere shape) when it creates an inflated file
image.  I would figure that some areas (because of deeper sulci) would blow
up (produce more inflated surface) much differently than others thus not
maintaining the basic shape.  I was thinking that maybe the program just
flattens it all period, but then I wouldn't really be able to explain how
you can still view the respective cortical thickness data because that too
must correspond with all the nooks and crannies.

I appreciate your help,
Anthony


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[Freesurfer] Installation troubleshoot (Afni won't work)

2006-05-18 Thread Dreyfuss Jeremie
Hello everyone,

I'm new here to the freesurfer community, and i've install the latest package
on my Linux.64 version. I've completed the installation stages described on MGH 
site
and it all seemed to work quite well until I've tried to run the mc-sess 
routine.
The error message I got was that AFNI's to3d routine couldn't be found.
I then realised that in Freesurfer's package there wasn't any AFNI directory to 
be found.
I've downloaded AFNI from their official site and put the extracted file in the 
directory
$FREESURFER_HOME/afni/$os I've also modified the FreeSurferEnv.sch to include 
the following lines:
setenv AFNI_DIR $FREESURFER_HOME/afni
setenv AFNI_BIN $AFNI_DIR/$os 
where $os is Linux on my computer. Still mc-sess wouldn't work on my computer.
Please if somebody can tell what I'm doing wrong it would be of great help.

Thanks in advance.

Jeremie DREYFUSS.

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Re: [Freesurfer] Installation troubleshoot (Afni won't work)

2006-05-18 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Jeremie,

could you include the information detailed in:

https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting

thanks,
Bruce
On Thu, 18 May 2006, 
Dreyfuss 
Jeremie wrote:



Hello everyone,

I'm new here to the freesurfer community, and i've install the latest package
on my Linux.64 version. I've completed the installation stages described on MGH 
site
and it all seemed to work quite well until I've tried to run the mc-sess 
routine.
The error message I got was that AFNI's to3d routine couldn't be found.
I then realised that in Freesurfer's package there wasn't any AFNI directory to 
be found.
I've downloaded AFNI from their official site and put the extracted file in the 
directory
$FREESURFER_HOME/afni/$os I've also modified the FreeSurferEnv.sch to include 
the following lines:
setenv AFNI_DIR $FREESURFER_HOME/afni
setenv AFNI_BIN $AFNI_DIR/$os
where $os is Linux on my computer. Still mc-sess wouldn't work on my computer.
Please if somebody can tell what I'm doing wrong it would be of great help.

Thanks in advance.

Jeremie DREYFUSS.



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Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2006-05-18 Thread Kevin Teich
Are you sure the volume is conformed?

On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:14:30PM -0400, Mark Pinsk wrote:
 I just installed the latest release on my mac ox 10.4
 
 Trying to set control points on a monkey volume, and something wierd  
 keeps happening... I will middle-click to set the control point, and  
 the green cross will appear, but when I move to another location to  
 set another control point, the first point disappears.


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[Freesurfer] FreeSurfer algorithms

2006-05-18 Thread anthony gallo
Surfers,Can someone please point me towards some detailed description of the algorithms that freesurfer uses to process the data...maybe there are some papers that talk about this?? Anthony
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Re: [Freesurfer] Installation troubleshoot (Afni won't work)

2006-05-18 Thread Nick Schmansky
Jeremie,

The AFNI package must be installed and setup independently from
Freesurfer.  Since you have it installed, it sounds like you just need
to add the AFNI bin path to the search path.  Something like this:

  setenv PATH $PATH:$AFNI_BIN
  rehash

Then test if it finds to3d by running it.

Nick


On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 09:21 -0500, Dreyfuss Jeremie wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'm new here to the freesurfer community, and i've install the latest package
 on my Linux.64 version. I've completed the installation stages described on 
 MGH site
 and it all seemed to work quite well until I've tried to run the mc-sess 
 routine.
 The error message I got was that AFNI's to3d routine couldn't be found.
 I then realised that in Freesurfer's package there wasn't any AFNI directory 
 to be found.
 I've downloaded AFNI from their official site and put the extracted file in 
 the directory
 $FREESURFER_HOME/afni/$os I've also modified the FreeSurferEnv.sch to include 
 the following lines:
 setenv AFNI_DIR $FREESURFER_HOME/afni
 setenv AFNI_BIN $AFNI_DIR/$os 
 where $os is Linux on my computer. Still mc-sess wouldn't work on my computer.
 Please if somebody can tell what I'm doing wrong it would be of great help.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Jeremie DREYFUSS.
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] FreeSurfer algorithms

2006-05-18 Thread Nick Schmansky
Anthony, 

See the references section at the bottom of the main wiki page, where
most of the papers themselves can be downloaded:

https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki


On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 17:02 -0400, Doug Greve wrote:
 
 btw, most of these are also listed at the end of:
 
 recon-all -help
 
 Bruce Fischl wrote: 
  Be careful what you ask for :) 
  
  -- 
  if you use surface recons 
  
  
  Dale, A.M. and M.I. Sereno (1993) Improved localization of cortical 
  activity by combining EEG and MEG with MRI cortical surface
  reconstruction: 
  A linear approach. Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience 5:162-176. 
  
  Segonne F, Dale, AM, Busa E, Glessner M, Salvolini U, Hahn HK, 
  Fischl B, A Hybrid Approach to the Skull-Stripping Problem in MRI. 
  NeuroImage, 22,  pp. 1160-1075, 2004 
  
  Dale, A.M., Fischl, Bruce, Sereno, M.I., (1999). Cortical Surface-
  Based 
  Analysis I: Segmentation and Surface Reconstruction. NeuroImage 
  9(2):179-194 
  
  Fischl, Bruce, Sereno, M.I., Dale, A.M., (1999). Cortical Surface-
  Based 
  Analysis II: Inflation, Flattening, and a Surface-Based Coordinate
  System. 
  NeuroImage 9(2):195-207 
  
  Fischl, Bruce, Liu, Arthur, and Dale, A.M., (2001). Automated
  Manifold 
  Surgery: Constructing Geometrically Accurate and Topologically
  Correct 
  Models of the Human Cerebral Cortex. IEEE Transactions on Medical
  Imaging, 
  20(1):70-80 
  
  
  if you do inter-subject spherical averaging 
  
  Fischl, Bruce, Sereno, M.I., Tootell, R.B.H., and Dale, A.M.,
  (1999). 
  High-resolution inter-subject averaging and a coordinate system for
  the 
  cortical surface. Human Brain Mapping, 8:272-284 
  
  
  if you do a thickness study 
  
  
  Fischl, Bruce, and Dale, A.M., (2000). Measuring the Thickness of
  the Human 
  Cerebral Cortex from Magnetic Resonance Images. Proceedings of the
  National 
  Academy of Sciences, 97:11044-11049. 
  
  
  if you use cortical parcellations 
  
  
  Fischl B, van der Kouwe A, Destrieux C, Halgren E, Ségonne F, 
  Salat DH, Busa E, Seidman LJ, Goldstein J, Kennedy D, Caviness V,
  Makris 
  N, Rosen B, Dale, AM Automatically Parcellating the Human Cerebral 
  Cortex. Cerebral Cortex, 2004; 14:11-22. 
  
  there should be another one here by Desikan and Killiany - I'll have
  to add it. 
  
  if you do subcortical segmentation 
  
  Fischl B, Salat DH, van der Kouwe AJW, Makris N, Ségonne F, Dale 
  AM. Sequence-Independent  Segmentation of Magnetic Resonance
  Images. 
  NeuroImage 23 Suppl 1, S69-84. 
  
  Fischl B, Salat D, Busa E, Albert M, Dieterich M, Haselgrove C, 
  van der Kouwe A, Killiany R, Kennedy D, Klaveness S, Montillo A,
  Makris 
  N, Rosen B, Dale A.M.. Whole brain segmentation. Automated labeling
  of 
  neuroanatomical structures in the human brain. Neuron. 2002; 33(3): 
  341-355. 
  
  
  
  misc other ones 
  
  F. Segonne, E. Grimson and B. Fischl (2003). Topology Correction of 
  Subcortical Segmentation, MICCAI 2003. 
  
  
  Salat DH, Buckner RL, Snyder AZ, Greve DN, Desikan RSR, Busa E,
  Morris JC, Dale AM, Fischl B. Thinning of the cerebral cortex in
  aging. Cerebral Cortex. Accepted with revision. 
  
  On Thu, 18 May 2006, anthony gallo wrote: 
  
   Surfers, 
   Can someone please point me towards some detailed description of
   the 
   algorithms that freesurfer uses to process the data...maybe
   there are 
   some papers that talk about  this?? 
   Anthony 
   
  
  
  
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[Freesurfer] retinotopy starting with blanks

2006-05-18 Thread Dahlia Sharon

Hi,

I'm analyzing a retinotopy data-set in which each scan started with 2 TRs 
of a blank screen, and then proceeded to 8 cycles as usual. Is there any 
possibility to tell a retinotopy analysis to ignore these 2 TRs?


Thanks!
Dahlia.

PS - I can't answer as to why these 2 blank TRs were put there.
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