[Freesurfer] preproc-sess and option -mni305-1mm results in an error

2012-11-27 Thread Jörg Pfannmöller
Hi,

if I apply the following command:

preproc-sess -s sessID -fsd bold -nostc -surface fsaverage lhrh -mni305-1mm 
-fwhm 0 -per-run -nosmooth -force

The preprocessing runs into trouble at the following point

mri_vol2vol done

mri_mask /...path.../bold/001/masks/brain.mni305.1mm.nii 
/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/fsaverage/mri.2mm/subcort.mask.mgz 
/...path.../bold/001/masks/brain.mni305.1mm.nii
freadFloat: fread failed
ERROR: dimension mismatch between source and mask

As far as I can see freesurfer uses a 2mm mask for a 1mm brain, which results 
in the dimension mismatch. How can I get rid of this problem?

Cheers Joerg
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[Freesurfer] Distance between ROIs on inflated brain

2012-11-27 Thread Trietsch, Rayna
Hi,

Is there a way to create and save multiple ROIs given there RAS coordinates in 
tkmedit and then plot them and measure the distance between them onto an 
inflated brain surface? Thanks!

~Rayna~

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Re: [Freesurfer] spline_smooth (please reply, no answer from email-list)

2012-11-27 Thread Douglas N Greve

Hi Negar, sorry about the delay. The first thing to do is to look at the 
orig.mgz to see if there is anything funny going on, maybe most of the 
image is dark with one very bright spot or some other distortion. If 
that looks ok, please tar up the subject and drop it to me at our file 
drop (url at thenend of this email).
doug


On 11/26/2012 09:10 PM, Negar Memarian wrote:
 Hello Dr. Greve,
 I'm not sure if my questions actually get posted on the FreeSurfer 
 email list or not, as I have never received a reply. I really need 
 help with the following issue and would appreciate if you or your 
 colleagues please advise:
 **I've checked similar posts on the email-list and still could not 
 find an answer to my question. I'd really appreciate your attention 
 and feedback:
 recon-all -autorecon1 crashes for me in one of the steps before skull 
 stripping with an error like this:
 Done spline_smooth: posixio.c:210: px_pgin: Assertion `*posp== 
 ((off_t)(-1)) || *posp== lseek(nciop-fd, 0, 1)' failed.
 nu_estimate_np_and_em: crashed while running spline_smooth(termination 
 status=6)
 nu_correct: crashed while running nu_estimate_np_and_em(termination 
 status=65280)
 ERROR: nu_correct
 Linux FreeSurfer2.6.28-11-generic #42-UbuntuSMPFri Apr 17 01:57:59 
 UTC2009 i686GNU/Linux
 recon-all -s BT501_FSexited with ERRORS at Mon Nov 26 15:26:10 EST2012
 I made sure that I have the newest version of FreeSurfer, the 
 environment variables MNI_DATAPATH and MNI_PERL5LIB and PERL5LIB  
 exist and I ran $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/fixup_mni_paths as well. But 
 unfortunately I still face the same problem. I also tried the process 
 for a different subject, but the same error. Does anyone have any idea 
 how I can fix this? I have attached the recon-all.log file.
 I'd really appreciate your help.
 Negar
 Negar Memarian, MASc, PhD
 NSERC Postdoctoral Fellow
 Department of Neurology
 David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA


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[Freesurfer] Regarding freesurfer segmentations for longitudinal data

2012-11-27 Thread Prasanna M
Hi,

I work in the area of longitudinal shape analysis, and have used the
longitudinal OASIS data in the past. I was trying to find freesurfer
segmentations of structures for the OASIS data, but could only find them
for cross-sectional ones.
I write to you to ask if you're aware of segmentations made available for
the longitudinal OASIS data, specifically the hippocampus regions? If not,
could you point me to the best way possible to segment these for the
longitudinal OASIS data?

Thanks,
Prasanna

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Re: [Freesurfer] preproc-sess and option -mni305-1mm results in an error

2012-11-27 Thread Douglas N Greve
Yep, that's a bug. I've fixed it in my version. To fix it in yours, do 
the following two steps:

Step 1:
ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/subcort.mask.1mm.mgz
cp subcort.mask.1mm.mgz $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage/mri

Step 2: In rawfunc2tal-sess, change:

  set subcortmask = 
$FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/fsaverage/mri.2mm/subcort.mask.mgz

   To

  if($res == 2) then
 set subcortmask = 
$FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/fsaverage/mri.2mm/subcort.mask.mgz
   else
 set subcortmask = 
$FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/fsaverage/mri/subcort.mask.1mm.mgz
   endif

doug

On 11/27/2012 04:48 AM, Jörg Pfannmöller wrote:
 Hi,

 if I apply the following command:

 preproc-sess -s sessID -fsd bold -nostc -surface fsaverage lhrh -mni305-1mm 
 -fwhm 0 -per-run -nosmooth -force

 The preprocessing runs into trouble at the following point

 mri_vol2vol done

 mri_mask /...path.../bold/001/masks/brain.mni305.1mm.nii 
 /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/fsaverage/mri.2mm/subcort.mask.mgz 
 /...path.../bold/001/masks/brain.mni305.1mm.nii
 freadFloat: fread failed
 ERROR: dimension mismatch between source and mask

 As far as I can see freesurfer uses a 2mm mask for a 1mm brain, which results 
 in the dimension mismatch. How can I get rid of this problem?

 Cheers Joerg
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Re: [Freesurfer] preproc-sess and option -mni305-1mm results in an error

2012-11-27 Thread Douglas N Greve
Note that each of those set commands should be a single line. The file 
to change is $FREESURFER_HOME/fsfast/bin/rawfunc2tal-sess

doug


On 11/27/2012 01:23 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
 Yep, that's a bug. I've fixed it in my version. To fix it in yours, do
 the following two steps:

 Step 1:
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/subcort.mask.1mm.mgz
 cp subcort.mask.1mm.mgz $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage/mri

 Step 2: In rawfunc2tal-sess, change:

set subcortmask =
 $FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/fsaverage/mri.2mm/subcort.mask.mgz

 To

if($res == 2) then
   set subcortmask =
 $FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/fsaverage/mri.2mm/subcort.mask.mgz
 else
   set subcortmask =
 $FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/fsaverage/mri/subcort.mask.1mm.mgz
 endif

 doug

 On 11/27/2012 04:48 AM, Jörg Pfannmöller wrote:
 Hi,

 if I apply the following command:

 preproc-sess -s sessID -fsd bold -nostc -surface fsaverage lhrh -mni305-1mm 
 -fwhm 0 -per-run -nosmooth -force

 The preprocessing runs into trouble at the following point

 mri_vol2vol done

 mri_mask /...path.../bold/001/masks/brain.mni305.1mm.nii 
 /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/fsaverage/mri.2mm/subcort.mask.mgz 
 /...path.../bold/001/masks/brain.mni305.1mm.nii
 freadFloat: fread failed
 ERROR: dimension mismatch between source and mask

 As far as I can see freesurfer uses a 2mm mask for a 1mm brain, which 
 results in the dimension mismatch. How can I get rid of this problem?

 Cheers Joerg
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Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-27 Thread Mahinda Yogarajah

Hi,

Thanks for the reference and explanation of the subtle statistical inferences. 
It was very useful.

You are right in what i am trying to show (c- controls, p1 to p4 patients with 
varying levels of endogenous factor) which is that when patients are subdivided 
into levels of endogenous factor there is correlation with the changes seen in 
dependent variables compared to controls. So far,

C v whole P gp - differences seen in plausible areas.
C v P1 (greatest endo factor) subgp  - no differences
C v P4 subgp (lowest endo factor) - differences seen in plausible areas.

Given that it is not valid to compare c v p1 and c v p4 (and p1 v p4 shows 
nothing) is the following valid - perhaps it is similar to what you proposed:

Consider c and p1 to p4 as one group of subjects (theoretically the only 
difference between subjects being level of endogenous factor) but assign each 
subject a variable which represents level of endoenous factor (c - 1 p1 - 2 p3 
- 4 p4 - 5) - then run glm looking for correlation between endogenous factor 
and dependent variable.

Is this very different to what you suggested and any less valid ?

Thanks.

M
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Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-27 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Mahinda,

make sure to include previous correspondence so that we know what 
previous the previous suggestions are. Your analysis sounds technically 
correct if you can justify the 1, 2, and 5 values for the covariate. 
This design will give you a little more power.

doug



On 11/27/2012 01:28 PM, Mahinda Yogarajah wrote:
 Hi,

 Thanks for the reference and explanation of the subtle statistical 
 inferences. It was very useful.

 You are right in what i am trying to show (c- controls, p1 to p4 patients 
 with varying levels of endogenous factor) which is that when patients are 
 subdivided into levels of endogenous factor there is correlation with the 
 changes seen in dependent variables compared to controls. So far,

 C v whole P gp - differences seen in plausible areas.
 C v P1 (greatest endo factor) subgp  - no differences
 C v P4 subgp (lowest endo factor) - differences seen in plausible areas.

 Given that it is not valid to compare c v p1 and c v p4 (and p1 v p4 shows 
 nothing) is the following valid - perhaps it is similar to what you proposed:

 Consider c and p1 to p4 as one group of subjects (theoretically the only 
 difference between subjects being level of endogenous factor) but assign each 
 subject a variable which represents level of endoenous factor (c - 1 p1 - 2 
 p3 - 4 p4 - 5) - then run glm looking for correlation between endogenous 
 factor and dependent variable.

 Is this very different to what you suggested and any less valid ?

 Thanks.

 M
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Re: [Freesurfer] Regarding freesurfer segmentations for longitudinal data

2012-11-27 Thread Martin Reuter
Hi Parsanna,

I am not aware of any publicly available segmentation of the
longitudinal oasis data using the longitudinal freesurfer stream. I have
done some of that for my longitudinal paper but did not use all time
points for that. I may have run all somewhere else, but need to double
check.

Anyway, you can of course run the longitudinal freesurfer pipeline on
the oasis data yourself and get the segmentations from it. 

Best, Martin



On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 11:14 -0700, Prasanna M wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 I work in the area of longitudinal shape analysis, and have used the
 longitudinal OASIS data in the past. I was trying to find freesurfer
 segmentations of structures for the OASIS data, but could only find
 them for cross-sectional ones. 
 I write to you to ask if you're aware of segmentations made available
 for the longitudinal OASIS data, specifically the hippocampus regions?
 If not, could you point me to the best way possible to segment these
 for the longitudinal OASIS data?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Prasanna
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-27 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Mahinda Yogarajah y.mahi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks for the reference and explanation of the subtle statistical 
 inferences. It was very useful.

 You are right in what i am trying to show (c- controls, p1 to p4 patients 
 with varying levels of endogenous factor) which is that when patients are 
 subdivided into levels of endogenous factor there is correlation with the 
 changes seen in dependent variables compared to controls. So far,

 C v whole P gp - differences seen in plausible areas.
 C v P1 (greatest endo factor) subgp  - no differences
 C v P4 subgp (lowest endo factor) - differences seen in plausible areas.

 Given that it is not valid to compare c v p1 and c v p4 (and p1 v p4 shows 
 nothing) is the following valid - perhaps it is similar to what you proposed:

 compare c v p1 and c v p4 (and p1 v p4 shows nothing) These are all 
 valid tests on their own. The issue waas that you were making qualitative 
 interpretations of the results.


 Consider c and p1 to p4 as one group of subjects (theoretically the only 
 difference between subjects being level of endogenous factor) but assign each 
 subject a variable which represents level of endoenous factor (c - 1 p1 - 2 
 p3 - 4 p4 - 5) - then run glm looking for correlation between endogenous 
 factor and dependent variable.

 Is this very different to what you suggested and any less valid ?

 If you have you have entered 5 groups and want to test the linear change 
 over the groups. You can use [2 1 0 -1 2] as the contrast. If you want the 
 linear change over the patients, then you can use [0 1.5 .5 -.5 -1.5]. If 
 you want to detect any difference in the patients, you could try an F-test 
 of [0 1 -1 0 0; 0 0 1 -1 0; 0 0 0 1 -1].


 Thanks.

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Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-27 Thread MAHINDA YOGARAJAH
Hi Doug, 

Sorry the previous suggestion referred to a suggestion from Donald earlier in 
the thread as follows: 

You might consider the contrast
[0 1.5 .5 -.5 -1.5] across all 5 groups showing a linear effect of
disease severity. The first column being controls.

I will try that suggestion out, but I have also grouped all the patients and 
controls together in 1 group (as opposed to 5 different groups), and given that 
controls contains no endogenous factor giving them a covariate of 1, and then 
P1 a value of 2, P2 a value of 3, P3 a values of 4 and P4 a value of 5.  There 
are good biological grounds to suspect that that the endogenous factor will 
increase linearly from P1 to P5, though the values 1 to 5 I have chosen are 
arbitrary.

When I then run the GLM looking for correlation between dependent measure and 
this covariate, I see significant results in a similar (though more widespread) 
location compared to when I simply look for a difference between all controls 
and all patients (C v combined P1 to P4).  Thus, I think (hope) the model has 
shown that 

Hopefully this is one valid way in which to show that it is the changes in the 
level of the endogenous factor contribute to the overall group differences (C v 
combined P1 to P4).  Do you agree ?

I will however try Donald's method as I also want to show that the interaction 
between age-thickness (that I see in C v combined P1 to P4) shows a linear 
effect across P1 to P4.  Any suggestions for how I do that ?

Thanks,

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[Freesurfer] mergecontrasts-sess group map

2012-11-27 Thread Alexandra Tanner
Hi Doug and Freesurfers,

I recently used mergecontrasts-sess to merge two contrasts of an analysis
in 50 different subjects. The command ran on each subject individually and
created a sig.nii and sig.ovpl file within a merged contrast folder for
each subject. I'd now like to look at an average map of the merged
contrasts across all 50 subjects.
Does anyone know how to go about getting this average map for my group of
50 subjects?

Command I ran to get the sig.nii/sig.ovpl file for each subject:
mergecontrasts-sess -mergedcontrast Merge_7vFix_1vFix -conjunction andor
-analysis SIRP_Stable5 -contrast Cond7vFix 3 pos 0 -contrast Cond1vFix 3
pos 0 -map sig -sf
/cluster/roffman/users/Stable5_PerRun/Subject_Files/50_MTH_Subjects -df
/cluster/roffman/users/Stable5_PerRun

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: [Freesurfer] Subgroup analysis

2012-11-27 Thread Douglas N Greve
sorry, what I meant to request is that you keep everything in a single 
email. If they are spread out over multiple emails, then we have to go 
back and find the relevant ones. As you know, we answer many emails, and 
it is burdensome to have to keep track of particular emails.
thanks!
doug




On 11/27/2012 04:00 PM, MAHINDA YOGARAJAH wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 Sorry the previous suggestion referred to a suggestion from Donald 
 earlier in the thread as follows:

 You might consider the contrast
 [0 1.5 .5 -.5 -1.5] across all 5 groups showing a linear effect of
 disease severity. The first column being controls.
 I will try that suggestion out, but I have also grouped all the patients and 
 controls together in 1 group (as opposed to 5 different groups), and given 
 that controls contains no endogenous factor giving them a covariate of 1, and 
 then P1 a value of 2, P2 a value of 3, P3 a values of 4 and P4 a value of 5.  
 There are good biological grounds to suspect that that the endogenous factor 
 will increase linearly from P1 to P5, though the values 1 to 5 I have chosen 
 are arbitrary.
 When I then run the GLM looking for correlation between dependent measure and 
 this covariate, I see significant results in a similar (though more 
 widespread) location compared to when I simply look for a difference between 
 all controls and all patients (C v combined P1 to P4).  Thus, I think (hope) 
 the model has shown that
 Hopefully this is one valid way in which to show that it is the 
 changes in the level of the endogenous factor contribute to the 
 overall group differences (C v combined P1 to P4). Do you agree ?

 I will however try Donald's method as I also want to show that the 
 interaction between age-thickness (that I see in C v combined P1 to 
 P4) shows a linear effect across P1 to P4. Any suggestions for how I 
 do that ?

 Thanks,

 M

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[Freesurfer] Problem Visualizing Hippocampal Subfield Segmentation in FreeView

2012-11-27 Thread Juan Deliz
Hi FS community,

I was trying to view the results of the hippocampal subfield segmentation
but had trouble overlaying the subfields on the nu.mgz file. I tried
letting it run for a while but it still does not work. Below I have
included the commands I used in Terminal:

[dyn-128-59-230-112:subjects/bert/mri] learninglab2% freeview nu.mgz
-p-labels posterior_left_* posterior_Left-Hippocampus.mgz -p-labels
posterior_right_* posterior_Right-Hippocampus.mgz -p-prefix posterior_
-p-lut $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

2012-11-27 19:18:38.964 freeview.bin[20154:607] invalid drawable
2012-11-27 19:18:38.969 freeview.bin[20154:607] invalid drawable
2012-11-27 19:18:38.987 freeview.bin[20154:607] invalid drawable
2012-11-27 19:18:38.989 freeview.bin[20154:607] invalid drawable
2012-11-27 19:18:39.006 freeview.bin[20154:607] invalid drawable
2012-11-27 19:18:39.008 freeview.bin[20154:607] invalid drawable
2012-11-27 19:18:39.025 freeview.bin[20154:607] invalid drawable
2012-11-27 19:18:39.027 freeview.bin[20154:607] invalid drawable
QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled(bool) to COMPAT
slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled(bool) to COMPAT
slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
Can not find index for color name left_CA2-3
CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
QThread: Destroyed while thread is still running

I looked over the mailing list and saw that someone had a similar problem
in the past and tried to follow that solution. It did not seem to work for
me:

[dyn-128-59-230-112:/Applications] learninglab2% cd $FREESURFER_HOME/

[dyn-128-59-230-112:/Applications/freesurfer] learninglab2% sed -i
s/CA2_3/CA2\/3/g FreeSurferColorLUT.txt
sed: 1: FreeSurferColorLUT.txt: invalid command code F

[dyn-128-59-230-112:/Applications/freesurfer] learninglab2% sed -i
s/CA4_DG/CA4\/DG/g FreeSurferColorLUT.txt
sed: 1: FreeSurferColorLUT.txt: invalid command code F

Does anybody know what's going on?

Thanks for your help,
Juan
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Re: [Freesurfer] p-value too small?

2012-11-27 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Doug,
I am afraid the p values are still too small in Free Surfer
Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0-full.
I redid
mkanalysis-sess
mkcontrast-sess
selxavg3-sess
in 5.1., it looks verz similar as in 4.5., including a whole of 0.0 in
the center of the cluster.
Any further advice?
Thanks,
Caspar



2012/11/26 Douglas Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:

 No, it does not. With version 5 I went to a simple AR1 model instead.
 doug



 On 11/26/12 10:34 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 thanks for the input. What I meant is that in version 5.1,
 mkanalysis-sess does not seem to recognize the -taumax flag to set the
 maximum delay for the autocorrelation function.
 Caspar


 2012/11/26 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:


 On 11/26/2012 02:12 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 I'll do that.
 Two quick follow-up questions regarding 5.1:
 - it seems that I cannot specify taumax anymore in mkanalysis-sess. Is
 there another argument that would allow me to set the autocorrelation?

 What do you mean by set the autocorrelation? You can turn it off with
 -no-whiten.

 - in a block design, would refeventduration be the block length or the
 length of the individual events within a block?

 The block length. This will not change the p-values, only percent signal
 change values (often not even looked at).
 doug

 Thanks,
 Caspar

 2012/11/26 Douglas N Grevegr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:

 Hi Caspar, I think I fixed this in later versions. If you upgrade, you
 can run the stats from 5.1 with recons from 4.5 (just don't mix recons
 from different versions).
 doug

 On 11/26/2012 01:15 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 Hi!
 I ran into a funny problem when calculating contrasts in Freesurfer
 4.5.0.
 Namely, the center of my cluster of significant voxels has a p-value
 of -0.0, resulting in a funny whole where you would otherwise expect
 to find the most significant voxel(s).
 It seems that the p-value is too small. Is there a workaround
 available?
 Thank you very much,
 Caspar
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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: (no subject)

2012-11-27 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Hugh

how far is the closest visible white matter? Do you have any other image 
types (e.g. a FLAIR)?


Bruce

On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Hugh Pemberton wrote:


Hi freesurfers,
Just want to ask how I might go about including parts of the temporal lobes
that have been left out of the the surfaces due to severe atrophy but where
there's no white matter so control points are of no use? I have attached a
jpg few screen shots as examples..

Cheers,
Hugh


On 21 November 2012 11:29, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Bruce,
Just to let you know the new mris_topo_fixer worked and there was no
error with the recon. 

I also meant to ask how I might go about including parts of the
temporal lobes that have been left out of the the surfaces due to
severe atrophy but where there's no white matter so control points are
of no use? I have attached a jpg few screen shots as examples..

Cheers,
Hugh


On 16 November 2012 14:44, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Hi Bruce,
I also meant to ask how I might go about including parts of the
temporal lobes that have been left out of the the surfaces due
to severe atrophy but where there's no white matter so control
points are of no use? I have attached a few screen shots as
examples..

Cheers,
Hugh


On 16 November 2012 11:14, Bruce Fischl
fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
  this is a bug in the topology fixer. Maybe Zeke or
  Nick can post a new version of it? Was it
  mris_topo_fixer that was runing or
  mris_fix_topology?
  On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Hugh Pemberton wrote:

Hi Bruce,
Thanks for getting back to me. In
terminal window it says
freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0
but recon-all -version
give me $Id: recon-all,v 1.379.2.17
2011/05/20 22:48:18 nicks Exp $

Hugh


On 16 November 2012 11:05, Bruce Fischl
fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
      Hi Hugh
This is fixed in the newest version.
What version are you running?
Bruce



On Nov 15, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Hugh
Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
wrote:

      Hi,
I have just received this error after a
recon-all subjid- ___
all :

ERROR: _FindFacePath: could not find
path!
/home/hughp/freesurfer/subjects/B__/scripts

 mris_remove_intersection
../surf/lh.orig ../surf/lh.orig 

intersection removal took 0.00 hours
removing intersecting faces
writing corrected surface to
../surf/lh.orig

 rm ../surf/lh.inflated 


 cp ../surf/lh.orig_corrected
../surf/lh.orig 

Linux naoshi-WS 3.2.0-32-generic
#51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26
21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
GNU/Linux

recon-all -s B__ exited with
ERRORS at Thu Nov 15
11:40:44 EST 2012

To report a problem, see
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting

Many thanks in advance,
Best,
Hugh

     
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Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2012-11-27 Thread Bruce Fischl
What version are you running?



On Nov 27, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Generally about 4 or 5 slices away, no other images unfortunately! Any ideas 
 or is the atrophy just too great?
 
 Also meant to ask about another control point based issue I've had - 
 occasionally, if I've added a few to the temporal lobes because only a small 
 amount has been left out and then run autorecon2 and autorecon3 the result is 
 just a load more of the temporal lobe being left out, I've attached another 
 couple of screen shots, in this example there's about 20 slices of left out 
 matter.
 
 Cheers,
 Hugh
 
 
 On 28 November 2012 12:34, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Hugh
 
 how far is the closest visible white matter? Do you have any other image 
 types (e.g. a FLAIR)?
 
 Bruce
 
 
 On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Hugh Pemberton wrote:
 
 Hi freesurfers,
 Just want to ask how I might go about including parts of the temporal lobes
 that have been left out of the the surfaces due to severe atrophy but where
 there's no white matter so control points are of no use? I have attached a
 jpg few screen shots as examples..
 
 Cheers,
 Hugh
 
 
 On 21 November 2012 11:29, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Bruce,
 Just to let you know the new mris_topo_fixer worked and there was no
 error with the recon. 
 
 I also meant to ask how I might go about including parts of the
 temporal lobes that have been left out of the the surfaces due to
 severe atrophy but where there's no white matter so control points are
 of no use? I have attached a jpg few screen shots as examples..
 
 Cheers,
 Hugh
 
 
 On 16 November 2012 14:44, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi Bruce,
 I also meant to ask how I might go about including parts of the
 temporal lobes that have been left out of the the surfaces due
 to severe atrophy but where there's no white matter so control
 points are of no use? I have attached a few screen shots as
 examples..
 
 Cheers,
 Hugh
 
 
 On 16 November 2012 11:14, Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
   this is a bug in the topology fixer. Maybe Zeke or
   Nick can post a new version of it? Was it
   mris_topo_fixer that was runing or
   mris_fix_topology?
   On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Hugh Pemberton wrote:
 
 Hi Bruce,
 Thanks for getting back to me. In
 terminal window it says
 freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0
 but recon-all -version
 give me $Id: recon-all,v 1.379.2.17
 2011/05/20 22:48:18 nicks Exp $
 
 Hugh
 
 
 On 16 November 2012 11:05, Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
   Hi Hugh
 This is fixed in the newest version.
 What version are you running?
 Bruce
 
 
 
 On Nov 15, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Hugh
 Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
 I have just received this error after a
 recon-all subjid- ___
 all :
 
 ERROR: _FindFacePath: could not find
 path!
 /home/hughp/freesurfer/subjects/B__/scripts
 
  mris_remove_intersection
 ../surf/lh.orig ../surf/lh.orig 
 
 intersection removal took 0.00 hours
 removing intersecting faces
 writing corrected surface to
 ../surf/lh.orig
 
  rm ../surf/lh.inflated 
 
 
  cp ../surf/lh.orig_corrected
 ../surf/lh.orig 
 
 Linux naoshi-WS 3.2.0-32-generic
 #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26
 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
 GNU/Linux
 
 recon-all -s B__ exited with
 ERRORS at Thu Nov 15
 11:40:44 EST 2012
 
 To report a problem, see
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
 
 Many thanks in advance,
 Best,
 Hugh
 
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2012-11-27 Thread Hugh Pemberton
5.1.0



On 28 November 2012 13:59, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 What version are you running?



 On Nov 27, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Generally about 4 or 5 slices away, no other images unfortunately! Any
 ideas or is the atrophy just too great?

 Also meant to ask about another control point based issue I've had -
 occasionally, if I've added a few to the temporal lobes because only a
 small amount has been left out and then run autorecon2 and autorecon3 the
 result is just a load more of the temporal lobe being left out, I've
 attached another couple of screen shots, in this example there's about 20
 slices of left out matter.

 Cheers,
 Hugh


 On 28 November 2012 12:34, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Hugh

 how far is the closest visible white matter? Do you have any other image
 types (e.g. a FLAIR)?

 Bruce


 On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Hugh Pemberton wrote:

  Hi freesurfers,
 Just want to ask how I might go about including parts of the temporal
 lobes
 that have been left out of the the surfaces due to severe atrophy but
 where
 there's no white matter so control points are of no use? I have attached
 a
 jpg few screen shots as examples..

 Cheers,
 Hugh


 On 21 November 2012 11:29, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi Bruce,
 Just to let you know the new mris_topo_fixer worked and there was no
 error with the recon.

 I also meant to ask how I might go about including parts of the
 temporal lobes that have been left out of the the surfaces due to
 severe atrophy but where there's no white matter so control points are
 of no use? I have attached a jpg few screen shots as examples..

 Cheers,
 Hugh


 On 16 November 2012 14:44, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi Bruce,
 I also meant to ask how I might go about including parts of the
 temporal lobes that have been left out of the the surfaces due
 to severe atrophy but where there's no white matter so control
 points are of no use? I have attached a few screen shots as
 examples..

 Cheers,
 Hugh


 On 16 November 2012 11:14, Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
   this is a bug in the topology fixer. Maybe Zeke or
   Nick can post a new version of it? Was it
   mris_topo_fixer that was runing or
   mris_fix_topology?
   On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Hugh Pemberton wrote:

 Hi Bruce,
 Thanks for getting back to me. In
 terminal window it says
 freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_**64-stable-pub-v5.1.0
 but recon-all -version
 give me $Id: recon-all,v 1.379.2.17
 2011/05/20 22:48:18 nicks Exp $

 Hugh


 On 16 November 2012 11:05, Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
   Hi Hugh
 This is fixed in the newest version.
 What version are you running?
 Bruce



 On Nov 15, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Hugh
 Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   Hi,
 I have just received this error after a
 recon-all subjid- ___
 all :

 ERROR: _FindFacePath: could not find
 path!
 /home/hughp/freesurfer/**subjects/B__/**scripts

  mris_remove_intersection
 ../surf/lh.orig ../surf/lh.orig

 intersection removal took 0.00 hours
 removing intersecting faces
 writing corrected surface to
 ../surf/lh.orig

  rm ../surf/lh.inflated


  cp ../surf/lh.orig_corrected
 ../surf/lh.orig

 Linux naoshi-WS 3.2.0-32-generic
 #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26
 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 recon-all -s B__ exited with
 ERRORS at Thu Nov 15
 11:40:44 EST 2012

 To report a problem, see
 
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu/fswiki/BugReportinghttp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting

 Many thanks in advance,
 Best,
 Hugh


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Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2012-11-27 Thread Bruce Fischl
Try it with nicks control point-fixed recon-all and see if it works better



On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com wrote:

 5.1.0
 
 
 
 On 28 November 2012 13:59, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 What version are you running?
 
 
 
 On Nov 27, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Generally about 4 or 5 slices away, no other images unfortunately! Any ideas 
 or is the atrophy just too great?
 
 Also meant to ask about another control point based issue I've had - 
 occasionally, if I've added a few to the temporal lobes because only a small 
 amount has been left out and then run autorecon2 and autorecon3 the result 
 is just a load more of the temporal lobe being left out, I've attached 
 another couple of screen shots, in this example there's about 20 slices of 
 left out matter.
 
 Cheers,
 Hugh
 
 
 On 28 November 2012 12:34, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Hugh
 
 how far is the closest visible white matter? Do you have any other image 
 types (e.g. a FLAIR)?
 
 Bruce
 
 
 On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Hugh Pemberton wrote:
 
 Hi freesurfers,
 Just want to ask how I might go about including parts of the temporal lobes
 that have been left out of the the surfaces due to severe atrophy but where
 there's no white matter so control points are of no use? I have attached a
 jpg few screen shots as examples..
 
 Cheers,
 Hugh
 
 
 On 21 November 2012 11:29, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Bruce,
 Just to let you know the new mris_topo_fixer worked and there was no
 error with the recon. 
 
 I also meant to ask how I might go about including parts of the
 temporal lobes that have been left out of the the surfaces due to
 severe atrophy but where there's no white matter so control points are
 of no use? I have attached a jpg few screen shots as examples..
 
 Cheers,
 Hugh
 
 
 On 16 November 2012 14:44, Hugh Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi Bruce,
 I also meant to ask how I might go about including parts of the
 temporal lobes that have been left out of the the surfaces due
 to severe atrophy but where there's no white matter so control
 points are of no use? I have attached a few screen shots as
 examples..
 
 Cheers,
 Hugh
 
 
 On 16 November 2012 11:14, Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
   this is a bug in the topology fixer. Maybe Zeke or
   Nick can post a new version of it? Was it
   mris_topo_fixer that was runing or
   mris_fix_topology?
   On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Hugh Pemberton wrote:
 
 Hi Bruce,
 Thanks for getting back to me. In
 terminal window it says
 freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0
 but recon-all -version
 give me $Id: recon-all,v 1.379.2.17
 2011/05/20 22:48:18 nicks Exp $
 
 Hugh
 
 
 On 16 November 2012 11:05, Bruce Fischl
 fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
   Hi Hugh
 This is fixed in the newest version.
 What version are you running?
 Bruce
 
 
 
 On Nov 15, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Hugh
 Pemberton hughpembert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi,
 I have just received this error after a
 recon-all subjid- ___
 all :
 
 ERROR: _FindFacePath: could not find
 path!
 /home/hughp/freesurfer/subjects/B__/scripts
 
  mris_remove_intersection
 ../surf/lh.orig ../surf/lh.orig 
 
 intersection removal took 0.00 hours
 removing intersecting faces
 writing corrected surface to
 ../surf/lh.orig
 
  rm ../surf/lh.inflated 
 
 
  cp ../surf/lh.orig_corrected
 ../surf/lh.orig 
 
 Linux naoshi-WS 3.2.0-32-generic
 #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26
 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
 GNU/Linux
 
 recon-all -s B__ exited with
 ERRORS at Thu Nov 15
 11:40:44 EST 2012
 
 To report a problem, see
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting
 
 Many thanks in advance,
 Best,
 Hugh
 
  
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