[Freesurfer] average subject

2013-02-12 Thread Linn Mittlestein
Dear freesurfer experts,

i have a question regarding making my own average. I received this message

Tue Feb 12 10:54:34 GMT 2013
make_average_volume done

However, the stats file in the average subject is empty, and the tmp
folder, but the other folders are not empty. Is this normal? Does the
above message indicate that the make_subject is done, or should it say
finished without error etc.

Thank you for your help,

Kind Regards Linn
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[Freesurfer] preparing NHP data for whole brain analysis

2013-02-12 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Dear Freesurfer experts,
I am trying to prepare some NHP functional data for a whole brain group
analysis, and I was wondering which sequence of steps you would recommend,
given that the data cannot be processed with recon-all.
I have surfaces from 4 subjects, but one subject for which I do not have an
anatomy of sufficient quality and won't be able to obtain one. I would also
like to align the data to the 112RM atlas by Mclaren et al.
I was thinking that I could probably align the functional data per subject
to the atlas, and then use this registration with func2sph-sess to align
all subjects for the group analysis (again to the atlas). Does that make
sense, given that I have only four out of five individual surfaces?

A second question is when to smooth the data. I assume that it makes most
sense to smooth it after it has been transformed into surface space. Would
that be sphsmooth-sess?

Finally, when doing the analysis, I would use isxavg-re-sess or isxavg-fe-
sess, correct?

I am using Freesurfer v5.1.
Thank you very much for your advice,
Caspar
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[Freesurfer] error when using stats import in qdec

2013-02-12 Thread Catherine Bois
Dear all,

I have a question;

I am trying to load data into qdec; the data table is loaded fine  
(although it lists age as continuous for some region, rather than  
discreet). However, When i try to generate the stats table, this error  
comes up. Does this mean I somehow have to manually set the subjects  
directory to where my subjects are (rather than the default that seems  
to be used), using the generate stats table option? If so, how is  
this done? Or is it a preprocessing step I have missed out?

mkdir: cannot create directory  
`/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec': Permission denied
ERROR: In  
/usr/pubsw/packages/KWWidgets/CVS-vtk560/KWWidgets/vtkKWTkUtilities.cxx, line  
230
vtkKWQdecApp (0x30732c58):
 Script:
vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables
 Returned Error on line 1:
Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p  
/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

Stack trace:
Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p  
/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

 while executing
vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables

Grateful for your help

Regards Catherine



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[Freesurfer] Fwd: error when using stats import in qdec

2013-02-12 Thread Catherine Bois

Dear all,

I have a question;

I am trying to load data into qdec; the data table is loaded fine  
(although it lists age as continuous for some region, rather than  
discreet). However, When i try to generate the stats table, this error  
comes up. Does this mean I somehow have to manually set the subjects  
directory to where my subjects are (rather than the default that seems  
to be used), using the generate stats table option? If so, how is  
this done? Or is it a preprocessing step I have missed out?

mkdir: cannot create directory  
`/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec': Permission denied
ERROR: In  
/usr/pubsw/packages/KWWidgets/CVS-vtk560/KWWidgets/vtkKWTkUtilities.cxx, line  
230
vtkKWQdecApp (0x30732c58):
 Script:
vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables
 Returned Error on line 1:
Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p  
/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

Stack trace:
Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p  
/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

 while executing
vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables

Grateful for your help

Regards Catherine



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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: error when using stats import in qdec

2013-02-12 Thread Catherine Bois
Sorry, just to clarify; it lists age as a discreet variable rather  
than continuous for some reason, not the other way round as I  
accidentally wrote=)

Regards


Quoting Catherine Bois c.b...@sms.ed.ac.uk on Tue, 12 Feb 2013  
14:58:45 +:


 Dear all,

 I have a question;

 I am trying to load data into qdec; the data table is loaded fine  
 (although it lists age as continuous for some region, rather than  
 discreet). However, When i try to generate the stats table, this  
 error comes up. Does this mean I somehow have to manually set the  
 subjects directory to where my subjects are (rather than the default  
 that seems to be used), using the generate stats table option? If  
 so, how is this done? Or is it a preprocessing step I have missed out?

 mkdir: cannot create directory  
 `/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec': Permission denied
 ERROR: In  
 /usr/pubsw/packages/KWWidgets/CVS-vtk560/KWWidgets/vtkKWTkUtilities.cxx,  
 line 230
 vtkKWQdecApp (0x30732c58):
 Script:
 vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables
 Returned Error on line 1:
 Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p  
 /usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

 Stack trace:
 Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p  
 /usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

 while executing
 vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables

 Grateful for your help

 Regards Catherine



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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: error when using stats import in qdec

2013-02-12 Thread Nick Schmansky
Catherine,

Is your SUBJECTS_DIR enviro var setup properly prior to starting qdec? 
That is, set to your own writable subjects directory?  I noticed in the
error message that it looks like the subjects dir is the default one under
the /freesurfer dir, which is read-only.

One option is to put this line at the top of your qdec.table.dat file:

SUBJECTS_DIR  /path/to/my/subjects

so that you dont have to remember to set it prior to starting qdec.

Also, age would be a continuous var even if its an integer, discrete is
what we assign to classes like male/female or patient/control.

Nick



 Dear all,

 I have a question;

 I am trying to load data into qdec; the data table is loaded fine
 (although it lists age as continuous for some region, rather than
 discreet). However, When i try to generate the stats table, this error
 comes up. Does this mean I somehow have to manually set the subjects
 directory to where my subjects are (rather than the default that seems
 to be used), using the generate stats table option? If so, how is
 this done? Or is it a preprocessing step I have missed out?

 mkdir: cannot create directory
 `/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec': Permission denied
 ERROR: In
 /usr/pubsw/packages/KWWidgets/CVS-vtk560/KWWidgets/vtkKWTkUtilities.cxx,
 line
 230
 vtkKWQdecApp (0x30732c58):
  Script:
 vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables
  Returned Error on line 1:
 Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p
 /usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

 Stack trace:
 Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p
 /usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

  while executing
 vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables

 Grateful for your help

 Regards Catherine



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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: error when using stats import in qdec

2013-02-12 Thread Nick Schmansky
Catherine,

Thats odd, can you email me your qdec.table.dat file?  qdec parses
'discretes' if they're non-numerical, so maybe there is a stray character
thats messing it up.

Nick


 Sorry, just to clarify; it lists age as a discreet variable rather
 than continuous for some reason, not the other way round as I
 accidentally wrote=)

 Regards


 Quoting Catherine Bois c.b...@sms.ed.ac.uk on Tue, 12 Feb 2013
 14:58:45 +:


 Dear all,

 I have a question;

 I am trying to load data into qdec; the data table is loaded fine
 (although it lists age as continuous for some region, rather than
 discreet). However, When i try to generate the stats table, this
 error comes up. Does this mean I somehow have to manually set the
 subjects directory to where my subjects are (rather than the default
 that seems to be used), using the generate stats table option? If
 so, how is this done? Or is it a preprocessing step I have missed out?

 mkdir: cannot create directory
 `/usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec': Permission denied
 ERROR: In
 /usr/pubsw/packages/KWWidgets/CVS-vtk560/KWWidgets/vtkKWTkUtilities.cxx,
 line 230
 vtkKWQdecApp (0x30732c58):
 Script:
 vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables
 Returned Error on line 1:
 Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p
 /usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

 Stack trace:
 Uncaught exception: command failed: mkdir -p
 /usr/local2/freesurfer510/subjects/qdec/stats_tables/

 while executing
 vtkTemp2 GenerateStatsDataTables

 Grateful for your help

 Regards Catherine



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[Freesurfer] trac-all problem

2013-02-12 Thread Jon Wieser
hello

i am trying to process the dti  data with trac-all.  I am new to tracula
my input images are 3300 dicoms,   60 slices and 55 dti diffusions
i have attached my dmrirc_single_subject file


i did the following command:

trac-all -prep -c /Studies/MJMRI/DTI/dmrirc_single_subject

and got the result:



INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012
INFO: Diffusion root is /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012
Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer
trac-preproc -c /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/dmrirc.local -log 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/trac-all.log -cmd 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/trac-all.cmd
#-
/Applications/freesurfer/bin/trac-preproc 
#-
#@# Image corrections Mon Feb 11 12:41:04 CST 2013
mri_convert /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz
mri_convert /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz 
$Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.2 2011/05/16 20:53:47 greve Exp $
reading from /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1...
Starting DICOMRead2()
dcmfile = /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1
dcmdir = /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780
Ref Series No = 13
Found 3304 files, checking for dicoms
Found 3300 dicom files in series.
First Sorting
Computing Slice Direction
Vs: 0 0 2
Vs: 0 0 1
Second Sorting
Counting frames
nframes = 55
nslices = 60
ndcmfiles = 3300
PE Dir = COL (dicom read)
TransferSyntaxUID: --1.2.840.10008.1.2.1--
jpegUID:   --1.2.840.10008.1.2.4--
Loading pixel data
TR=9300.00, TE=76.20, TI=0.00, flip angle=90.00
i_ras = (-1, 0, 0)
j_ras = (0, -1, 0)
k_ras = (-0, -0, 1)
writing to /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz...
mri_probedicom --i /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1  
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dcminfo.dat
flip4fsl /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
INFO: input image orientation is LPS
INFO: input image determinant is 2
fslswapdim /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz x -y z 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
INFO: left-right orientation was flipped by fslswapdim
fslorient -forceradiological 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
INFO: found /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.mghdti.bvals, 
converting to FSL format
INFO: found /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.mghdti.bvecs, 
converting to FSL format
mv -f /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.mghdti.bvecs 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs
mv -f /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.mghdti.bvals 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvals
eddy_correct /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.nii.gz 0
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0001
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0002
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0003
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0004
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0005
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0006
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0007
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0008
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0009
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0010
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0011
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0012
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0013
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0014
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0015
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0016
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0017
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0018
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0019
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0020
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0021
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0022
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0023
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0024
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0025
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0026
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0027
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0028
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0029
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0030
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0031
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0032
processing 

[Freesurfer] two sample t-test of paired differences

2013-02-12 Thread Jörg Pfannmöller
Hello,

I have two different results from a paired difference analysis lets call it A 
and B. How can I do a two sample t-test with those results (A-B)? Somehow I am 
stuck in using isxconcat-sess on the group results A and B. Help is highly 
appreciated.

Cheers Joerg


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Re: [Freesurfer] average subject

2013-02-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Linn
that sounds normal to me

cheers
Bruce
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Linn Mittlestein wrote:

 Dear freesurfer experts,
 
 i have a question regarding making my own average. I received this message
 
 Tue Feb 12 10:54:34 GMT 2013
 make_average_volume done
 
 However, the stats file in the average subject is empty, and the tmp folder,
 but the other folders are not empty. Is this normal? Does the above
 message indicate that the make_subject is done, or should it say finished
 without error etc.
 
 Thank you for your help,
 
 Kind Regards Linn
 
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] average subject

2013-02-12 Thread Linn Mittlestein
Dear Bruce,

Thank you for your reply

Regards, Linn


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Linn
 that sounds normal to me

 cheers
 Bruce

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Linn Mittlestein wrote:

  Dear freesurfer experts,

 i have a question regarding making my own average. I received this message

 Tue Feb 12 10:54:34 GMT 2013
 make_average_volume done

 However, the stats file in the average subject is empty, and the tmp
 folder,
 but the other folders are not empty. Is this normal? Does the above
 message indicate that the make_subject is done, or should it say finished
 without error etc.

 Thank you for your help,

 Kind Regards Linn





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Re: [Freesurfer] average subject

2013-02-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Linn, make_average_subject does not compile statistics so this is normal.
doug


On 02/12/2013 11:14 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 Hi Linn
 that sounds normal to me

 cheers
 Bruce
 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Linn Mittlestein wrote:

 Dear freesurfer experts,

 i have a question regarding making my own average. I received this message

 Tue Feb 12 10:54:34 GMT 2013
 make_average_volume done

 However, the stats file in the average subject is empty, and the tmp folder,
 but the other folders are not empty. Is this normal? Does the above
 message indicate that the make_subject is done, or should it say finished
 without error etc.

 Thank you for your help,

 Kind Regards Linn



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[Freesurfer] Basic skullstrip Inquiry

2013-02-12 Thread Gabriel Obregon
Hi,

I'm using the -gcut flag for the first time and I've noticed that the skull 
stripping process is still leaving small fragments of dura behind. Will this 
affect my surfaces? Should I manually edit the brainmask volume to remove as 
much of these fragments as I can? 

Also, should I only be concerned about the GM and cerebellum edges when 
checking for over-aggressive cutting, or are other brain structures important 
as well, e.g. optic chiasm?

Thanks,

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Re: [Freesurfer] two sample t-test of paired differences

2013-02-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Joerg, see http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsgdExamples and 
look at the 2 group with 0 covariates.
doug

On 02/12/2013 10:51 AM, Jörg Pfannmöller wrote:
 Hello,

 I have two different results from a paired difference analysis lets call it A 
 and B. How can I do a two sample t-test with those results (A-B)? Somehow I 
 am stuck in using isxconcat-sess on the group results A and B. Help is highly 
 appreciated.

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[Freesurfer] Parallelizing on a different kind of cluster

2013-02-12 Thread Susan Kuo
Hi TRACULA Experts,

  Is there a way of parallelizing BEDPOSTX on a cluster, not using the
bedpostx_seychelles option since I'm on a non-MGH cluster?

Thanks!
Susie Kuo
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Re: [Freesurfer] mean cortical thickness of significant clusters in qdec

2013-02-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Anyone know how to reset the LOCAL? Even if temporarily to see if this 
is the problem?
doug


On 02/12/2013 08:23 AM, Richter, Julia wrote:
 It says the same even if I put 1.3 in quotes. :( Any other possibility to get 
 access to the data?


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Douglas N Greve [mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Gesendet: Montag, 11. Februar 2013 19:04
 An: Richter, Julia; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [Freesurfer] mean cortical thickness of significant 
 clusters in qdec


 It may be a German operating system replacing 1.3 with 1,3. Maybe put it in 
 quotes, ie, 1.3

 On 02/11/2013 04:17 AM, Richter, Julia wrote:
 Dear Doug,

 this is what appears when I type my command in the command window:

 mri_glmfit-sim --cache 1.3 abs --cwpvalthresh .99
 ERROR: thresh 1,3, must be 1.3, 2.0, 3.0, 3.3, 4.0

 That's it...Any ideas why this is happening?

 Many thanks in advance!

 Best, Julia

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Douglas N Greve [mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2013 17:32
 An: Richter, Julia; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Freesurfer] mean cortical thickness of
 significant clusters in qdec

 it does not look like you changed the command line. Also, please cut and 
 paste the info into the email instead of taking a snapshot.
 thanks
 doug

 On 02/04/2013 07:26 AM, Richter, Julia wrote:
 This doesn't work either (see attachment)  :(

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Douglas N Greve [mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013 20:29
 An: Richter, Julia; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Betreff: Re: AW: [Freesurfer] mean cortical thickness of significant
 clusters in qdec

 The threshold must be in the form of -log10(pthreshold). So, if you
 want pthreshold=.05, then use 1.3 doug



 On 01/31/2013 07:37 AM, Richter, Julia wrote:
 Dear Doug,

 thanks for your reply. I tried the command you suggested, but I always get 
 an error message that there is something wrong with my threshold. I took a 
 screenshot of the command window and attached it to this mail. I will be 
 very happy if you have a look at it.

 Looking forward to your answer,

 Best, Julia

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von
 Douglas Greve
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2013 17:16
 An: Richter, Julia; free surfer
 Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] mean cortical thickness of significant
 clusters in qdec

 Oh, sorry, I thought you said you were using mri_glmfit-sim (which
 does not have an FDR option). Are you using the FDR in QDEC? If so,
 it will display the voxel-wise threshold that realizes the FDR
 threshold. You can then run mri_glmfit-sim --cache threshold sign
 --cwpvalthresh .99 where threshold is the voxelwise threshold from
 FDR and sign is either abs (absolute), pos, or neg. Setting
 cwpvalthresh=.99 tell it to report all clusters

 doug

 On 1/30/13 8:09 AM, Richter, Julia wrote:
 No it is not...or I just do not find it.

 Might it be that I only get the xxx.y.ocn.dat if I correct for multiple 
 comparisons with Monte Carlo? If yes, is there any possibility that I get 
 this xxx.y.ocn.dat when correcting with FDR?

 Many thanks, Julia

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von
 Douglas N Greve
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2013 18:46
 An: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] mean cortical thickness of significant
 clusters in qdec

 Hi Julia, it should just be created when mri_glmfit-sim runs. Is it not?
 doug


 On 01/29/2013 11:03 AM, Richter, Julia wrote:
 Dear FreeSurfer experts,

 I did a group analysis in qdec, found several significant clusters
 and would now like to extract the mean cortical thickness of each
 significant cluster. I know that I have to run mri_glmfit-sim to
 do this, but I do not understand which commands I need to get the
 xxx.y.ocn.dat as output by running mri_glmfit-sim.

 Any ideas? Any help is appreciated. J

 Best wishes, Julia



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Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all -path error

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Stefano - What are the contents of the bedpostX output directory? In 
your case, that'd be this directory:

/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX

a.y

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:


Hi list,
I'm running trac-all -path -c $FREESURFER/dmrirc_single_subject but I have this 
error:

Loading mask from
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
Loading BEDPOST parameter samples from 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX
niiRead(): error opening file
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz
ERROR: Could not read
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz

From http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg22066.html 
I'm deducing that the error may be related trace-all upload.

I have doing this upload but I visualize always the same error.

I attached tract-all uploades file that live in /Applications/freesurfer/bin.

Please, could you check it?

I have also other question. May I run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
using FSL on other pc? In this
way, could I directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that I should rename 
some files?

Thanks,


Stefano

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Re: [Freesurfer] R: trac-all -path error

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Stefano - There is no need to attach the trac-all script, I am quite 
familiar with it. Perhaps you could attach the configuration file that you 
set up?


Thanks,
a.y

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:


I'm attaching my trac-all file for check.Thanks,

Stefano

Messaggio originale
Da: std...@virgilio.it
Data: 11-feb-2013 14.42
A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Cc: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Ogg: [Freesurfer] trac-all -path error

Hi list,
I'm running trac-all -path -c $FREESURFER/dmrirc_single_subject but I have this 
error:

Loading mask from
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
Loading BEDPOST parameter samples from 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX
niiRead(): error opening file
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz
ERROR: Could not read
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz

From http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg22066.html 
I'm deducing that the error may be related trace-all upload.

I have doing this upload but I visualize always the same error.

I attached tract-all uploades file that live in /Applications/freesurfer/bin.

Please, could you check it?

I have also other question. May I run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
using FSL on other pc? In this
way, could I directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that I should rename 
some files?

Thanks,


Stefano



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Re: [Freesurfer] preparing NHP data for whole brain analysis

2013-02-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Caspar, with 5.1 you would not use any of those programs (ie, 
func2sph, isxavg-re-sess, or isxavg-fe-sess). If you want to use FSFAST, 
then see the tutorial for getting started. You'll need to set up the 
directory structure properly, then run preproc-sess, mkanalysis-sess, 
and selxavg3-sess. For the group analysis you'll run isxconcat-sess 
followed by mri_glmfit and mri_glmfit-sim. If you don't have anatomicals 
for all subjects and you just want to use the average subject, then put 
the average subject into the subjectname file when you set up the 
directory structure.

doug


On 02/12/2013 07:55 AM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer experts,
 I am trying to prepare some NHP functional data for a whole brain 
 group analysis, and I was wondering which sequence of steps you would 
 recommend, given that the data cannot be processed with recon-all.
 I have surfaces from 4 subjects, but one subject for which I do not 
 have an anatomy of sufficient quality and won't be able to obtain one. 
 I would also like to align the data to the 112RM atlas by Mclaren et al.
 I was thinking that I could probably align the functional data per 
 subject to the atlas, and then use this registration with 
 func2sph-sess to align all subjects for the group analysis (again to 
 the atlas). Does that make sense, given that I have only four out of 
 five individual surfaces?

 A second question is when to smooth the data. I assume that it makes 
 most sense to smooth it after it has been transformed into surface 
 space. Would that be sphsmooth-sess?

 Finally, when doing the analysis, I would use isxavg-re-sess or 
 isxavg-fe-sess, correct?

 I am using Freesurfer v5.1.
 Thank you very much for your advice,
 Caspar




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Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Hi Jon - My guess is you didn't define the nb0 variable in your 
configuration file, see here:
http://www.freesurfer.net/fswiki/dmrirc

The new version, which will come out in a few days, will be able to figure 
it out without you having to specify it but with the current version you 
have to.

Hope this helps,
a.y

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:

 hello

 i am trying to process the dti  data with trac-all.  I am new to tracula
 my input images are 3300 dicoms,   60 slices and 55 dti diffusions
 i have attached my dmrirc_single_subject file


 i did the following command:

 trac-all -prep -c /Studies/MJMRI/DTI/dmrirc_single_subject

 and got the result:



 INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012
 INFO: Diffusion root is /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012
 Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer
 trac-preproc -c /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/dmrirc.local -log 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/trac-all.log -cmd 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/trac-all.cmd
 #-
 /Applications/freesurfer/bin/trac-preproc
 #-
 #@# Image corrections Mon Feb 11 12:41:04 CST 2013
 mri_convert /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz
 mri_convert /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.2 2011/05/16 20:53:47 greve Exp $
 reading from /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1...
 Starting DICOMRead2()
 dcmfile = /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1
 dcmdir = /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780
 Ref Series No = 13
 Found 3304 files, checking for dicoms
 Found 3300 dicom files in series.
 First Sorting
 Computing Slice Direction
 Vs: 0 0 2
 Vs: 0 0 1
 Second Sorting
 Counting frames
 nframes = 55
 nslices = 60
 ndcmfiles = 3300
 PE Dir = COL (dicom read)
 TransferSyntaxUID: --1.2.840.10008.1.2.1--
 jpegUID:   --1.2.840.10008.1.2.4--
 Loading pixel data
 TR=9300.00, TE=76.20, TI=0.00, flip angle=90.00
 i_ras = (-1, 0, 0)
 j_ras = (0, -1, 0)
 k_ras = (-0, -0, 1)
 writing to /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz...
 mri_probedicom --i /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1  
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dcminfo.dat
 flip4fsl /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
 INFO: input image orientation is LPS
 INFO: input image determinant is 2
 fslswapdim /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz x -y z 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
 INFO: left-right orientation was flipped by fslswapdim
 fslorient -forceradiological 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
 INFO: found /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.mghdti.bvals, 
 converting to FSL format
 INFO: found /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.mghdti.bvecs, 
 converting to FSL format
 mv -f /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.mghdti.bvecs 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs
 mv -f /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.mghdti.bvals 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvals
 eddy_correct /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.nii.gz 0
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0001
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0002
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0003
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0004
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0005
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0006
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0007
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0008
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0009
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0010
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0011
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0012
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0013
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0014
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0015
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0016
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0017
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0018
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0019
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0020
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0021
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0022
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0023
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0024
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0025
 processing 

Re: [Freesurfer] Parallelizing on a different kind of cluster

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Susie - FSL's bedpostx script works for parallelization on the type of 
cluster they have at Oxford, and bedpostx_seychelles is a modified version 
of it that also works on our cluster. Other than that, support for all 
possible cluster setups at other centers is beyond the scope of our 
research, but perhaps the existing script is useful as a starting point 
for making it work on your cluster.


Hope this helps,
a.y

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Susan Kuo wrote:


Hi TRACULA Experts, 
  Is there a way of parallelizing BEDPOSTX on a cluster, not using the 
bedpostx_seychelles option since I'm
on a non-MGH cluster? 

Thanks!
Susie Kuo

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Re: [Freesurfer] Troubleshooting the preproc

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Susie - avscale is part of the FSL package. You have to make sure FSL 
is installed and in your path.


a.y

On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Susan Kuo wrote:


Hi FreeSurfer community,   I am currently trying to troubleshoot my 
preprocessing part of TRACULA with the
tutorial dataset (for Diff001 as the subject, specifically), running trac-all -corr 
-c config dmrirc. I am
running the commands in subjectID/scripts/trac-all.cmd one by one because I've 
had problems with some of the
steps. Specifically, flip4fsl didn't work. I instead used fslswapdim -x -y z 
(flip4fsl uses fslswapdim x -y
z, which doesn't generate the correct orientation for FSL in fact), followed by 
fslorient
-forceradiological. I successfully ran eddy_current thereafter. Now I am stuck 
again, at FreeSurfer's
xfmrot, which should look like: 

xfmrot transform file input vector file [output vector file]

I specifically typed in: 

xfmrot 
/j/dti7/Susie/freesurfer/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/Diff001/dmri/dwi.ecclog
/j/dti7/Susie/freesurfer/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/Diff001/dmri/bvecs.norot
/j/dti7/Susie/freesurfer/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/Diff001/dmri/bvecs


and received the following iterative errors:

avscale: Command not found.
R: Subscript out of range.
R: Subscript out of range.
R: Subscript out of range.

Can any of you help me? 

Thank you, 
Susie K

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Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Sorry, reading stuff from the dicom header will not work for all dicom 
versions. It should work for Siemens dicoms though.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:

 according to the
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/Tracula

 nb0 does not need to be specified when using original dicoms.   , but i'll 
 try defining the nb0 variable
 thanks
 Jon


 - Original Message -
 From: Anastasia Yendiki ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: Jon Wieser wie...@uwm.edu
 Cc: freesurfer freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:49:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem


 Hi Jon - My guess is you didn't define the nb0 variable in your
 configuration file, see here:
   http://www.freesurfer.net/fswiki/dmrirc

 The new version, which will come out in a few days, will be able to figure
 it out without you having to specify it but with the current version you
 have to.

 Hope this helps,
 a.y

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:

 hello

 i am trying to process the dti  data with trac-all.  I am new to tracula
 my input images are 3300 dicoms,   60 slices and 55 dti diffusions
 i have attached my dmrirc_single_subject file


 i did the following command:

 trac-all -prep -c /Studies/MJMRI/DTI/dmrirc_single_subject

 and got the result:



 INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012
 INFO: Diffusion root is /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012
 Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer
 trac-preproc -c /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/dmrirc.local -log 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/trac-all.log -cmd 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/trac-all.cmd
 #-
 /Applications/freesurfer/bin/trac-preproc
 #-
 #@# Image corrections Mon Feb 11 12:41:04 CST 2013
 mri_convert /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz
 mri_convert /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.2 2011/05/16 20:53:47 greve Exp $
 reading from /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1...
 Starting DICOMRead2()
 dcmfile = /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1
 dcmdir = /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780
 Ref Series No = 13
 Found 3304 files, checking for dicoms
 Found 3300 dicom files in series.
 First Sorting
 Computing Slice Direction
 Vs: 0 0 2
 Vs: 0 0 1
 Second Sorting
 Counting frames
 nframes = 55
 nslices = 60
 ndcmfiles = 3300
 PE Dir = COL (dicom read)
 TransferSyntaxUID: --1.2.840.10008.1.2.1--
 jpegUID:   --1.2.840.10008.1.2.4--
 Loading pixel data
 TR=9300.00, TE=76.20, TI=0.00, flip angle=90.00
 i_ras = (-1, 0, 0)
 j_ras = (0, -1, 0)
 k_ras = (-0, -0, 1)
 writing to /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz...
 mri_probedicom --i /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012//s780/i1735678.MRDC.1  
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dcminfo.dat
 flip4fsl /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
 INFO: input image orientation is LPS
 INFO: input image determinant is 2
 fslswapdim /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz x -y z 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
 INFO: left-right orientation was flipped by fslswapdim
 fslorient -forceradiological 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
 INFO: found /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.mghdti.bvals, 
 converting to FSL format
 INFO: found /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.mghdti.bvecs, 
 converting to FSL format
 mv -f /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.mghdti.bvecs 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs
 mv -f /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.mghdti.bvals 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvals
 eddy_correct /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.nii.gz 0
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0001
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0002
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0003
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0004
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0005
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0006
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0007
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0008
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0009
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0010
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0011
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0012
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0013
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0014
 processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0015
 

[Freesurfer] warping results on surface

2013-02-12 Thread Jacobs H (NP)
Hi FreeSurfer!

A colleague has retinotopic results that he would like to overlay on the FS 
surface (most likely fsaverage).
The retinotopic data is in 2mm isotropic resolution.
What would be the best way to be able to overlay this data correctly?
Should he first warp the volume to the volume of fsaverage and then use 
vol2surf?

Any help is highly appreciated!

Best
Heidi



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Faculty of Health, Medicine and Life Sciences
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Alzheimer Center Limburg
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Re: [Freesurfer] warping results on surface

2013-02-12 Thread Douglas N Greve

He should recon-all the anatomical data for the subject, register the 
fMRI to the anatomical (bbregister), then use mri_vol2surf to map the 
fMRI to the subject's anatomy. Then use mri_surf2surf to go to fsaverage 
if needed (though why?). Also, the retinotopy results will look much 
nicer if the fMRI data are sampled onto the surface and smoothed and 
analyzed there.
doug

On 02/12/2013 12:19 PM, Jacobs H (NP) wrote:
 Hi FreeSurfer!

 A colleague has retinotopic results that he would like to overlay on the FS 
 surface (most likely fsaverage).
 The retinotopic data is in 2mm isotropic resolution.
 What would be the best way to be able to overlay this data correctly?
 Should he first warp the volume to the volume of fsaverage and then use 
 vol2surf?

 Any help is highly appreciated!

 Best
 Heidi


 
 Dr. Heidi Jacobs
 Postdoc researcher
 Faculty of Health, Medicine and Life Sciences
 School for Mental Health and Neurosciences
 Division Cognitive Neuropsychiatry and Clinical Neurosciences
 Alzheimer Center Limburg
 h.jac...@maastrichtuniversity.nl
 www.maastrichtuniversity.nl
 www.heidijacobs.nl

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[Freesurfer] Freesurfer version for processed data

2013-02-12 Thread krista kelly
Hello,

Is there any way to find out which Freesurfer version I used to process
data?

Thanks,
Krista
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer version for processed data

2013-02-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
look in the subject/scripts/build-stamp.txt
Note that if you set this environment variable
setenv REQUIRE_FS_MATCH 1
it will require that a re-running of recon-all use the same version as 
previous runs
doug

On 02/12/2013 12:35 PM, krista kelly wrote:
 Hello,

 Is there any way to find out which Freesurfer version I used to 
 process data?

 Thanks,
 Krista


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Re: [Freesurfer] Basic skullstrip Inquiry

2013-02-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Gabriel

I would run recon-all and see whether the remaining non-brain is included 
in the surfaces or cerebellum. If not you should be set. I would worry 
about shaving of gray matter though, which can be difficult to see.

cheers
Bruce


On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Gabriel Obregon wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm using the -gcut flag for the first time and I've noticed that the 
skull stripping process is still leaving small fragments of dura behind. 
Will this affect my surfaces? Should I manually edit the brainmask volume 
to remove as much of these fragments as I can?

 Also, should I only be concerned about the GM and cerebellum edges when 
checking for over-aggressive cutting, or are other brain structures 
important as well, e.g. optic chiasm?

 Thanks,

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Re: [Freesurfer] Parallelizing on a different kind of cluster

2013-02-12 Thread Susie Kuo
Thank you very much for your response. Is there a way to use bedpostx instead 
of bedpostx_seychelles? 

If not, no worries. I will look at your script and compose one of our own. 


Best, 
Susie Kuo

On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Anastasia Yendiki wrote:

 
 Hi Susie - FSL's bedpostx script works for parallelization on the type of 
 cluster they have at Oxford, and bedpostx_seychelles is a modified version of 
 it that also works on our cluster. Other than that, support for all possible 
 cluster setups at other centers is beyond the scope of our research, but 
 perhaps the existing script is useful as a starting point for making it work 
 on your cluster.
 
 Hope this helps,
 a.y
 
 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Susan Kuo wrote:
 
 Hi TRACULA Experts, 
   Is there a way of parallelizing BEDPOSTX on a cluster, not using the 
 bedpostx_seychelles option since I'm
 on a non-MGH cluster? 
 Thanks!
 Susie Kuo
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Parallelizing on a different kind of cluster

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Everything that's in bedpostx is also in bedpostx_seychelles. I've just 
added to it. But if you want to run bedpostx directly on the command line 
instead of going through trac-all -bedp, you can do that, too.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Susie Kuo wrote:

 Thank you very much for your response. Is there a way to use bedpostx instead 
 of bedpostx_seychelles?

 If not, no worries. I will look at your script and compose one of our own.


 Best,
 Susie Kuo

 On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Anastasia Yendiki wrote:


 Hi Susie - FSL's bedpostx script works for parallelization on the type of 
 cluster they have at Oxford, and bedpostx_seychelles is a modified version 
 of it that also works on our cluster. Other than that, support for all 
 possible cluster setups at other centers is beyond the scope of our 
 research, but perhaps the existing script is useful as a starting point for 
 making it work on your cluster.

 Hope this helps,
 a.y

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Susan Kuo wrote:

 Hi TRACULA Experts,
   Is there a way of parallelizing BEDPOSTX on a cluster, not using the 
 bedpostx_seychelles option since I'm
 on a non-MGH cluster?
 Thanks!
 Susie Kuo



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Re: [Freesurfer] Parallelizing on a different kind of cluster

2013-02-12 Thread Susan Kuo
I see. So I will discriminate between what bedpostx requires from the more
inclusive bedpostx_seychelles script. Thank you for your help. I sincerely
appreciate it.

Best,
Susie Kuo

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Anastasia Yendiki 
ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 Everything that's in bedpostx is also in bedpostx_seychelles. I've just
 added to it. But if you want to run bedpostx directly on the command line
 instead of going through trac-all -bedp, you can do that, too.


 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Susie Kuo wrote:

  Thank you very much for your response. Is there a way to use bedpostx
 instead of bedpostx_seychelles?

 If not, no worries. I will look at your script and compose one of our own.


 Best,
 Susie Kuo

 On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Anastasia Yendiki wrote:


 Hi Susie - FSL's bedpostx script works for parallelization on the type
 of cluster they have at Oxford, and bedpostx_seychelles is a modified
 version of it that also works on our cluster. Other than that, support for
 all possible cluster setups at other centers is beyond the scope of our
 research, but perhaps the existing script is useful as a starting point for
 making it work on your cluster.

 Hope this helps,
 a.y

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Susan Kuo wrote:

  Hi TRACULA Experts,
   Is there a way of parallelizing BEDPOSTX on a cluster, not using the
 bedpostx_seychelles option since I'm
 on a non-MGH cluster?
 Thanks!
 Susie Kuo



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Re: [Freesurfer] preparing NHP data for whole brain analysis

2013-02-12 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Doug,
the issue is that the 112RM atlas is only available as a volume; also, I do
not have a surface for one of my subjects. I could either make a surface
from the atlas volume and align to that surface for the group analysis, or
align the data to the atlas in volume space (if possible) and perform the
group analysis in volume space.
What would you recommend?
Thanks, Caspar


2013/2/12 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu


 If you can create an average subject and register your individual surfaces
 to that subject, then it can be done. By default, recon-all will register
 to the human atlas to create ?h.sphere.reg
 doug



 On 02/12/2013 03:57 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 thank you very much.
 One more question: From the documentation, I wasn't really sure whether
 it would also be possible to do the analysis of the functional data in a
 common volume space (not MNI, as it is NHP data).
 Thanks again, Caspar


 2013/2/12 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu


 Hi Caspar, with 5.1 you would not use any of those programs (ie,
 func2sph, isxavg-re-sess, or isxavg-fe-sess). If you want to use
 FSFAST,
 then see the tutorial for getting started. You'll need to set up the
 directory structure properly, then run preproc-sess, mkanalysis-sess,
 and selxavg3-sess. For the group analysis you'll run isxconcat-sess
 followed by mri_glmfit and mri_glmfit-sim. If you don't have
 anatomicals
 for all subjects and you just want to use the average subject,
 then put
 the average subject into the subjectname file when you set up the
 directory structure.

 doug


 On 02/12/2013 07:55 AM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
  Dear Freesurfer experts,
  I am trying to prepare some NHP functional data for a whole brain
  group analysis, and I was wondering which sequence of steps you
 would
  recommend, given that the data cannot be processed with recon-all.
  I have surfaces from 4 subjects, but one subject for which I do not
  have an anatomy of sufficient quality and won't be able to
 obtain one.
  I would also like to align the data to the 112RM atlas by
 Mclaren et al.
  I was thinking that I could probably align the functional data per
  subject to the atlas, and then use this registration with
  func2sph-sess to align all subjects for the group analysis (again to
  the atlas). Does that make sense, given that I have only four out of
  five individual surfaces?
 
  A second question is when to smooth the data. I assume that it makes
  most sense to smooth it after it has been transformed into surface
  space. Would that be sphsmooth-sess?
 
  Finally, when doing the analysis, I would use isxavg-re-sess or
  isxavg-fe-sess, correct?
 
  I am using Freesurfer v5.1.
  Thank you very much for your advice,
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Re: [Freesurfer] preparing NHP data for whole brain analysis

2013-02-12 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
I would recommend using the volume space initially until you can get
more surfaces to create your group surface. The one issue with the
112RM_SL is that there is no EPI template.


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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
cschwie...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote:
 Hi Doug,
 the issue is that the 112RM atlas is only available as a volume; also, I do
 not have a surface for one of my subjects. I could either make a surface
 from the atlas volume and align to that surface for the group analysis, or
 align the data to the atlas in volume space (if possible) and perform the
 group analysis in volume space.
 What would you recommend?
 Thanks, Caspar



 2013/2/12 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu


 If you can create an average subject and register your individual surfaces
 to that subject, then it can be done. By default, recon-all will register to
 the human atlas to create ?h.sphere.reg
 doug



 On 02/12/2013 03:57 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 thank you very much.
 One more question: From the documentation, I wasn't really sure whether
 it would also be possible to do the analysis of the functional data in a
 common volume space (not MNI, as it is NHP data).
 Thanks again, Caspar


 2013/2/12 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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 Hi Caspar, with 5.1 you would not use any of those programs (ie,
 func2sph, isxavg-re-sess, or isxavg-fe-sess). If you want to use
 FSFAST,
 then see the tutorial for getting started. You'll need to set up the
 directory structure properly, then run preproc-sess, mkanalysis-sess,
 and selxavg3-sess. For the group analysis you'll run isxconcat-sess
 followed by mri_glmfit and mri_glmfit-sim. If you don't have
 anatomicals
 for all subjects and you just want to use the average subject,
 then put
 the average subject into the subjectname file when you set up the
 directory structure.

 doug


 On 02/12/2013 07:55 AM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
  Dear Freesurfer experts,
  I am trying to prepare some NHP functional data for a whole brain
  group analysis, and I was wondering which sequence of steps you
 would
  recommend, given that the data cannot be processed with recon-all.
  I have surfaces from 4 subjects, but one subject for which I do not
  have an anatomy of sufficient quality and won't be able to
 obtain one.
  I would also like to align the data to the 112RM atlas by
 Mclaren et al.
  I was thinking that I could probably align the functional data per
  subject to the atlas, and then use this registration with
  func2sph-sess to align all subjects for the group analysis (again
 to
  the atlas). Does that make sense, given that I have only four out
 of
  five individual surfaces?
 
  A second question is when to smooth the data. I assume that it
 makes
  most sense to smooth it after it has been transformed into surface
  space. Would that be sphsmooth-sess?
 
  Finally, when doing the analysis, I would use isxavg-re-sess or
  isxavg-fe-sess, correct?
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Jon - Have you run freesurfer (recon-all) on your T1 data?

a.y

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:


i got past the problem with the bvesc, and bvals,


my current output has a new problem:
here's the last part of the output.



#@# Tensor fit Tue Feb 12 15:24:51 CST 2013
dtifit -k /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.nii.gz -m 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lowb_brain_mask.nii.gz -r 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs -b 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvals -o 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dtifit
0 256 0 256 0 60
0 slices processed
1 slices processed
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58 slices processed
59 slices processed
#-
#@# Priors Tue Feb 12 15:26:36 CST 2013
/Applications/freesurfer/bin/dmri_train --outdir 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/mni --out lh.cst_AS_avg23_mni_flt 
rh.cst_AS_avg23_mni_flt lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt rh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt 
lh.unc_AS_avg23_mni_flt rh.unc_AS_avg23_mni_flt fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt 
fminor_PP_avg23_mni_flt lh.atr_PP_avg23_mni_flt rh.atr_PP_avg23_mni_flt 
lh.cab_PP_avg23_mni_flt rh.cab_PP_avg23_mni_flt lh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt 
rh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt lh.slfp_PP_avg23_mni_flt rh.slfp_PP_avg23_mni_flt 
lh.slft_PP_avg23_mni_flt rh.slft_PP_avg23_mni_flt --slist 
/tmp/subj23.freesurfer.92196.txt --trk dlabel/mni/lh.cst_AS.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/rh.cst_AS.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/rh.ilf_AS.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.unc_AS.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS.flt.trk dlabel/mni/fmajor_PP.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/fminor_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.atr_PP.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/rh.atr_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.cab_PP.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/rh.cab_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/rh.ccg_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.slfp_PP.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/rh.slfp_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.slft_PP.flt.trk 
dlabel/mni/rh.slft_PP.flt.trk --seg dlabel/mni/aparc+aseg.nii.gz --cmask 
dlabel/mni/cortex+2mm.nii.gz --lmask 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 49 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
--rois dlabel/mni/lh.cst_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/lh.cst_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.cst_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/rh.cst_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.ilf_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/rh.ilf_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.unc_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/lh.unc_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/fmajor_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/fmajor_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/fminor_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/fminor_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.atr_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/lh.atr_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.atr_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/rh.atr_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.cab_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/lh.cab_PP_roi2!

.flt.nii
.gz dlabel/mni/rh.cab_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.cab_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/rh.ccg_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.ccg_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/lh.slfp_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.slfp_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/rh.slfp_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.slfp_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/lh.slft_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.slft_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
dlabel/mni/rh.slft_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.slft_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
--bmask /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lowb_brain_mask.flt.nii.gz 
--fa /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/mni/dtifit_FA.flt.nii.gz --ncpts 5 
--debug

ERROR: fio_pushd: /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/mni
ERROR: must specify brain mask volume for output subject
Darwin psy-cerebellum.uits.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 
 7 16:32:41 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64

trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Tue Feb 12 15:26:36 CST 2013





what is the brainmask volume that 

Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem

2013-02-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
and yes, you'll need to run recon-all on your data before running tracula

cheers
Bruce
On 
Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Anastasia Yendiki wrote:


 Hi Jon - You'll the aparc+aseg.mgz (cortical parcellation + subcortical
 segmentation). The basis of TRACULA is that it uses the underlying anatomy
 to reconstruct the tracts.

 a.y

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:

 no i have not run recon-all yet on this dataset,
 do i need to run recon-all  with -autorecon1 ,-autorecon2, and  -autorecon3  
 before i analyze the dti data?

 thanks
 Jon

 - Original Message -
 From: Anastasia Yendiki ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 To: Jon Wieser wie...@uwm.edu
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:34:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem


 Hi Jon - Have you run freesurfer (recon-all) on your T1 data?

 a.y

 On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:

 i got past the problem with the bvesc, and bvals,


 my current output has a new problem:
 here's the last part of the output.



 #@# Tensor fit Tue Feb 12 15:24:51 CST 2013
 dtifit -k /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.nii.gz -m 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lowb_brain_mask.nii.gz -r 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs -b 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvals -o 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dtifit
 0 256 0 256 0 60
 0 slices processed
 1 slices processed
 2 slices processed
 3 slices processed
 4 slices processed
 5 slices processed
 6 slices processed
 7 slices processed
 8 slices processed
 9 slices processed
 10 slices processed
 11 slices processed
 12 slices processed
 13 slices processed
 14 slices processed
 15 slices processed
 16 slices processed
 17 slices processed
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 55 slices processed
 56 slices processed
 57 slices processed
 58 slices processed
 59 slices processed
 #-
 #@# Priors Tue Feb 12 15:26:36 CST 2013
 /Applications/freesurfer/bin/dmri_train --outdir 
 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/mni --out lh.cst_AS_avg23_mni_flt 
 rh.cst_AS_avg23_mni_flt lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt rh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt 
 lh.unc_AS_avg23_mni_flt rh.unc_AS_avg23_mni_flt fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt 
 fminor_PP_avg23_mni_flt lh.atr_PP_avg23_mni_flt rh.atr_PP_avg23_mni_flt 
 lh.cab_PP_avg23_mni_flt rh.cab_PP_avg23_mni_flt lh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt 
 rh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt lh.slfp_PP_avg23_mni_flt rh.slfp_PP_avg23_mni_flt 
 lh.slft_PP_avg23_mni_flt rh.slft_PP_avg23_mni_flt --slist 
 /tmp/subj23.freesurfer.92196.txt --trk dlabel/mni/lh.cst_AS.flt.trk 
 dlabel/mni/rh.cst_AS.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS.flt.trk 
 dlabel/mni/rh.ilf_AS.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.unc_AS.flt.trk 
 dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS.flt.trk dlabel/mni/fmajor_PP.flt.trk 
 dlabel/mni/fminor_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.atr_PP.flt.trk 
 dlabel/mni/rh.atr_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.cab_PP.flt.trk 
 dlabel/mni/rh.cab_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP.flt.trk 
 dlabel/mni/rh.ccg_PP.flt.trk
 dlabel/mni/lh.slfp_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/rh.slfp_PP.flt.trk 
 dlabel/mni/lh.slft_PP.flt.trk dlabel/mni/rh.slft_PP.flt.trk --seg 
 dlabel/mni/aparc+aseg.nii.gz --cmask dlabel/mni/cortex+2mm.nii.gz --lmask 16 
 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 49 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --rois 
 dlabel/mni/lh.cst_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.cst_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/rh.cst_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.cst_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/rh.ilf_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.ilf_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/lh.unc_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.unc_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.unc_AS_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/fmajor_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/fmajor_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/fminor_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/fminor_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/lh.atr_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.atr_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/rh.atr_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/rh.atr_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz dl
 abel/mni/lh.cab_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.cab_PP_roi2!
 .flt.nii
 .gz dlabel/mni/rh.cab_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/rh.cab_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_roi1.flt.nii.gz 
 dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_roi2.flt.nii.gz 

[Freesurfer] R: Re: R: trac-all -path error

2013-02-12 Thread stdp82
Hi Anastasia,
thanks! I hope that is all ok in Boston. 
I'm attaching the configuration file that I'm using.
I'd like ask you if/how I can also run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
using FSL on other pc? May I directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that 
I should rename some files?
An additional question. For some subjects (no for subject that I'm running with 
the config file that I have attached) I have 16 direction and b=0 is the last 
of these. Is the nb0=16?
Thank you very much.

Stefano




Messaggio originale
Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Data: 12-feb-2013 17.45
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Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] R:  trac-all -path error


Hi Stefano - There is no need to attach the trac-all script, I am quite 
familiar with it. Perhaps you could attach the configuration file that you 
set up?

Thanks,
a.y

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:

 I'm attaching my trac-all file for check.Thanks,
 
 Stefano
 
 Messaggio originale
 Da: std...@virgilio.it
 Data: 11-feb-2013 14.42
 A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Cc: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Ogg: [Freesurfer] trac-all -path error
 
 Hi list,
 I'm running trac-all -path -c $FREESURFER/dmrirc_single_subject but I have 
 this error:
 
 Loading mask from
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
 Loading BEDPOST parameter samples from 
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX
 niiRead(): error opening file
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz
 ERROR: Could not read
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz
 
 From http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg22066.html 
 I'm deducing that the error may be related trace-all upload.
 
 I have doing this upload but I visualize always the same error.
 
 I attached tract-all uploades file that live in /Applications/freesurfer/bin.
 
 Please, could you check it?
 
 I have also other question. May I run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
 using FSL on other pc? In this
 way, could I directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that I should 
 rename some files?
 
 Thanks,
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] R: Re: R: trac-all -path error

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Stefano - All is well here, thank you. Yes, you can run bedpostx 
directly on the dmri directory. If you search for bedpostx in the 
freesurfer email list archives, you'll find the info you need since other 
people have done this before.


a.y

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:


Hi Anastasia,
thanks! I hope that is all ok in Boston. 

I'm attaching the configuration file that I'm using.

I'd like ask you if/how I can also run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
using FSL on other pc? May I
directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that I should rename some files?

An additional question. For some subjects (no for subject that I'm running with 
the config file that I have
attached) I have 16 direction and b=0 is the last of these. Is the nb0=16?

Thank you very much.


Stefano



Messaggio originale
Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Data: 12-feb-2013 17.45
A: std...@virgilio.it
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] R:  trac-all -path error


Hi Stefano - There is no need to attach the trac-all script, I am quite
familiar with it. Perhaps you could attach the configuration file that you
set up?

Thanks,
a.y

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:

 I'm attaching my trac-all file for check.Thanks,

 Stefano

 Messaggio originale
 Da: std...@virgilio.it
 Data: 11-feb-2013 14.42
 A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Cc: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Ogg: [Freesurfer] trac-all -path error

 Hi list,
 I'm running trac-all -path -c $FREESURFER/dmrirc_single_subject but I have 
this error:

 Loading mask from
 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
 Loading BEDPOST parameter samples from 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX
 niiRead(): error opening file
 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz
 ERROR: Could not read
 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz

 From http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg22066.html 
 I'm deducing that the error may be related trace-all upload.

 I have doing this upload but I visualize always the same error.

 I attached tract-all uploades file that live in /Applications/freesurfer/bin.

 Please, could you check it?

 I have also other question. May I run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
using FSL on other pc? In
this
 way, could I directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that I should 
rename some files?

 Thanks,


 Stefano



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[Freesurfer] R: R: Re: R: trac-all -path error

2013-02-12 Thread stdp82
Thank you Anastasia. But I do not understand why I have the error in trac-all 
-path. The configuration file that I have attached is good?
Stefano



Messaggio originale

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Data: 12-feb-2013 23.27

A: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

Ogg: [Freesurfer] R: Re:  R:  trac-all -path error



Hi Anastasia,
thanks! I hope that is all ok in Boston. 
I'm attaching the configuration file that I'm using.
I'd like ask you if/how I can also run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
using FSL on other pc? May I directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that 
I should rename some files?
An additional question. For some subjects (no for subject that I'm running with 
the config file that I have attached) I have 16 direction and b=0 is the last 
of these. Is the nb0=16?
Thank you very much.

Stefano




Messaggio originale
Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Data: 12-feb-2013 17.45
A: std...@virgilio.it
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] R:  trac-all -path error


Hi Stefano - There is no need to attach the trac-all script, I am quite 
familiar with it. Perhaps you could attach the configuration file that you 
set up?

Thanks,
a.y

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:

 I'm attaching my trac-all file for check.Thanks,
 
 Stefano
 
 Messaggio originale
 Da: std...@virgilio.it
 Data: 11-feb-2013 14.42
 A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Cc: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Ogg: [Freesurfer] trac-all -path error
 
 Hi list,
 I'm running trac-all -path -c $FREESURFER/dmrirc_single_subject but I have 
 this error:
 
 Loading mask from
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
 Loading BEDPOST parameter samples from 
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX
 niiRead(): error opening file
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz
 ERROR: Could not read
 /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz
 
 From http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg22066.html 
 I'm deducing that the error may be related trace-all upload.
 
 I have doing this upload but I visualize always the same error.
 
 I attached tract-all uploades file that live in /Applications/freesurfer/bin.
 
 Please, could you check it?
 
 I have also other question. May I run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
 using FSL on other pc? In this
 way, could I directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that I should 
 rename some files?
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Stefano
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] R: R: Re: R: trac-all -path error

2013-02-12 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Stefano - The order of the 3 trac-all steps is not inter-changeable. 
You need to run bedpostx *before* you can run the path reconstruction.


a.y

On Wed, 13 Feb 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:


Thank you Anastasia. But I do not understand why I have the error in trac-all 
-path. The configuration file
that I have attached is good?
Stefano

Messaggio originale
Da: std...@virgilio.it
Data: 12-feb-2013 23.27
A: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Ogg: [Freesurfer] R: Re: R: trac-all -path error

Hi Anastasia,
thanks! I hope that is all ok in Boston. 

I'm attaching the configuration file that I'm using.

I'd like ask you if/how I can also run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
using FSL on other pc? May I
directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that I should rename some files?

An additional question. For some subjects (no for subject that I'm running with 
the config file that I have
attached) I have 16 direction and b=0 is the last of these. Is the nb0=16?

Thank you very much.


Stefano



Messaggio originale
Da: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Data: 12-feb-2013 17.45
A: std...@virgilio.it
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] R:  trac-all -path error


Hi Stefano - There is no need to attach the trac-all script, I am quite
familiar with it. Perhaps you could attach the configuration file that you
set up?

Thanks,
a.y

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013, std...@virgilio.it wrote:

 I'm attaching my trac-all file for check.Thanks,

 Stefano

 Messaggio originale
 Da: std...@virgilio.it
 Data: 11-feb-2013 14.42
 A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Cc: ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Ogg: [Freesurfer] trac-all -path error

 Hi list,
 I'm running trac-all -path -c $FREESURFER/dmrirc_single_subject but I have 
this error:

 Loading mask from
 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
 Loading BEDPOST parameter samples from 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX
 niiRead(): error opening file
 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz
 ERROR: Could not read
 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/subject_prova/Con02/dmri.bedpostX/merged_ph1samples.nii.gz

 From http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg22066.html 
 I'm deducing that the error may be related trace-all upload.

 I have doing this upload but I visualize always the same error.

 I attached tract-all uploades file that live in /Applications/freesurfer/bin.

 Please, could you check it?

 I have also other question. May I run the second step of trac-all (bedpostx) 
using FSL on other pc? In
this
 way, could I directly run in FSL dmri folder? Do you think that I should 
rename some files?

 Thanks,


 Stefano



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Re: [Freesurfer] matrix design to homogeneity of slopes designs

2013-02-12 Thread Douglas N Greve

The matrix that you have will fail because Col1+Col2=Col3 (and same for 
the other columns). To do what you want, use the DODS that mri_glmfit 
generates along with a contrast of [0 0 1 -1]. The constant term is 
modelled by the first two columns.
doug

On 02/12/2013 03:19 PM, jm wrote:
 Hi fs experts,


 I need to execute  *mri_glmfit* with -X option to probe interactions
 between Diagnosis and Age,

 Statistic Software help suggest:  The*homogeneity of slopes designs* can
 be used to test whether the continuous and categorical predictors
 interact in influencing responses, and thus, whether the traditional
 ANCOVA design or the separate slope
 file:///textbook/general-linear-models/#between_subject design is
 appropriate for modeling the effects of the predictor.

 for 2 groups

 thickness = b_0 + b_1 X_1 + b_2 X_2 + b_3 * Age + b4 X1*Age + b5 x2*Age

 the Matrix Design Xm _corresponding

 1 1   0   56  56  0
 1 1   0   67  67  0
 1 1   0   67  67  0
 1 1   0   78  78  0
 1 1   0   67  67  0
 1 1   0   87  87  0
 1 0   1   67  0   67
 1 0   1   66  0   66
 1 0   1   65  0   65
 1 0   1   87  0   87
 1 0   1   45  0   45
 1 0   1   77  0   77


 In matrix design generated by freesurfer _*file Xg.dat*_ for both DODS
 and DOSS the first column don't appears. Constant term is not
 explicitly considered my question is:

 is correct to use *mri_glmfit* with -X Xm as above specified ? or I need
 to eliminate the first column?

 1 0   56  56  0
 1 0   67  67  0
 1 0   67  67  0
 1 0   78  78  0
 1 0   67  67  0
 1 0   87  87  0
 0 1   67  0   67
 0 1   66  0   66
 0 1   65  0   65
 0 1   87  0   87
 0 1   45  0   45
 0 1   77  0   77


 thanks!!


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[Freesurfer] LME - contrast

2013-02-12 Thread Alex Hanganu

Dear Jorge,

For the statistical analysis of longitudinal data we used the Two Stage 
Model (TSM) and the Linear Mixed Effects.


Our intergroup LME results (2 groups, 2 time points) had many 
similarities with TSM results. Then with TSM we analysed the intragroup 
changes (one group, and 2 time points). We tried to do the same analysis 
with LME but the results are very different, so I suppose that the 
contrast was incorrect.


For the intergroup analysis (2 groups x 2 time points) I used 
/lme_mass_fit_vw/ and CM.C = [0 0 0 1];


For the intragroup (1 group x 2 time points) I also used 
/lme_mass_fit_vw/ but CM.C = [0 1];


Can you please tell me if the CM.C is correct ? or is there something 
else I should change ?


Thanks,

Best regards,

Alex.
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Re: [Freesurfer] preparing NHP data for whole brain analysis

2013-02-12 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Thanks for your input, Donald. Unfortunately, I won't be able to acquire
the missing high quality anatomy.
Doug, I did not get from the documentation how to use preproc-sess to align
data to an NHP atlas in volume space (that is not in human MNI space).
Please advise.
Thanks!
Caspar



2013/2/12 MCLAREN, Donald mclaren.don...@gmail.com

 I would recommend using the volume space initially until you can get
 more surfaces to create your group surface. The one issue with the
 112RM_SL is that there is no EPI template.


 Best Regards, Donald McLaren
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 and
 Harvard Medical School
 Postdoctoral Research Fellow, GRECC, Bedford VA
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 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
 cschwie...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote:
  Hi Doug,
  the issue is that the 112RM atlas is only available as a volume; also, I
 do
  not have a surface for one of my subjects. I could either make a surface
  from the atlas volume and align to that surface for the group analysis,
 or
  align the data to the atlas in volume space (if possible) and perform the
  group analysis in volume space.
  What would you recommend?
  Thanks, Caspar
 
 
 
  2013/2/12 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
 
  If you can create an average subject and register your individual
 surfaces
  to that subject, then it can be done. By default, recon-all will
 register to
  the human atlas to create ?h.sphere.reg
  doug
 
 
 
  On 02/12/2013 03:57 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
 
  Hi Doug,
  thank you very much.
  One more question: From the documentation, I wasn't really sure whether
  it would also be possible to do the analysis of the functional data in
 a
  common volume space (not MNI, as it is NHP data).
  Thanks again, Caspar
 
 
  2013/2/12 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
 
  Hi Caspar, with 5.1 you would not use any of those programs (ie,
  func2sph, isxavg-re-sess, or isxavg-fe-sess). If you want to use
  FSFAST,
  then see the tutorial for getting started. You'll need to set up
 the
  directory structure properly, then run preproc-sess,
 mkanalysis-sess,
  and selxavg3-sess. For the group analysis you'll run isxconcat-sess
  followed by mri_glmfit and mri_glmfit-sim. If you don't have
  anatomicals
  for all subjects and you just want to use the average subject,
  then put
  the average subject into the subjectname file when you set up the
  directory structure.
 
  doug
 
 
  On 02/12/2013 07:55 AM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
   Dear Freesurfer experts,
   I am trying to prepare some NHP functional data for a whole brain
   group analysis, and I was wondering which sequence of steps you
  would
   recommend, given that the data cannot be processed with
 recon-all.
   I have surfaces from 4 subjects, but one subject for which I do
 not
   have an anatomy of sufficient quality and won't be able to
  obtain one.
   I would also like to align the data to the 112RM atlas by
  Mclaren et al.
   I was thinking that I could probably align the functional data
 per
   subject to the atlas, and then use this registration with
   func2sph-sess to align all subjects for the group analysis (again
  to
   the atlas). Does that make sense, given that I have only four out
  of
   five individual surfaces?
  
   A second question is when to smooth the data. I assume that it
  makes
   most sense to smooth it after it has been transformed into
 surface
   space. Would that be sphsmooth-sess?
  
   Finally, when doing the analysis, I would use isxavg-re-sess or
   isxavg-fe-sess, correct?
  
   I am using Freesurfer v5.1.
   Thank you very much for your advice,
   Caspar
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] preparing NHP data for whole brain analysis

2013-02-12 Thread MCLAREN, Donald
If you can get good alignment between the EPI and the T1 images for
the 4 subjects with good T1 images, you might try the following:
(1) coregister each T1 to the corresponding EPI;
(2) normalize the coregistered T1 to the 112RM-SL atlas (see McLaren
et al. 2010 in Methods for your options)
(3) apply the normalization to EPI data
(4) create a mean image from the 4 monkeys (call this the 112RM-SL_EPI
and make it public after you publish your paper).
(5) use the new EPI atlas to normalize the EPI images. This way all 5
monkeys are aligned to the same template space. If you can create the
EPI template in a separate set of animals not in the current
experiment, it would be better. You might want to contact Justin
Vincent to see if he know any good EPI and T1 datasets in monkeys that
could be used to make an EPI template or surfaces for a 112RM-SL
surface atlas.

Hope this helps.

Best Regards, Donald McLaren
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
cschwie...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote:
 Thanks for your input, Donald. Unfortunately, I won't be able to acquire the
 missing high quality anatomy.
 Doug, I did not get from the documentation how to use preproc-sess to align
 data to an NHP atlas in volume space (that is not in human MNI space).
 Please advise.
 Thanks!
 Caspar



 2013/2/12 MCLAREN, Donald mclaren.don...@gmail.com

 I would recommend using the volume space initially until you can get
 more surfaces to create your group surface. The one issue with the
 112RM_SL is that there is no EPI template.


 Best Regards, Donald McLaren
 =
 D.G. McLaren, Ph.D.
 Research Fellow, Department of Neurology, Massachusetts General Hospital
 and
 Harvard Medical School
 Postdoctoral Research Fellow, GRECC, Bedford VA
 Website: http://www.martinos.org/~mclaren
 Office: (773) 406-2464
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 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
 cschwie...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote:
  Hi Doug,
  the issue is that the 112RM atlas is only available as a volume; also, I
  do
  not have a surface for one of my subjects. I could either make a surface
  from the atlas volume and align to that surface for the group analysis,
  or
  align the data to the atlas in volume space (if possible) and perform
  the
  group analysis in volume space.
  What would you recommend?
  Thanks, Caspar
 
 
 
  2013/2/12 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
 
  If you can create an average subject and register your individual
  surfaces
  to that subject, then it can be done. By default, recon-all will
  register to
  the human atlas to create ?h.sphere.reg
  doug
 
 
 
  On 02/12/2013 03:57 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
 
  Hi Doug,
  thank you very much.
  One more question: From the documentation, I wasn't really sure
  whether
  it would also be possible to do the analysis of the functional data in
  a
  common volume space (not MNI, as it is NHP data).
  Thanks again, Caspar
 
 
  2013/2/12 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 
 
  Hi Caspar, with 5.1 you would not use any of those programs (ie,
  func2sph, isxavg-re-sess, or isxavg-fe-sess). If you want to use
  FSFAST,
  then see the tutorial 

Re: [Freesurfer] LME - contrast

2013-02-12 Thread jorge luis

 
Hi Alex

Certainly, for such a simple design
matrix, only two repeated measures per subject with a small
inter-subject variability in between-scan time interval and a very small
number of subjects with a single time point the results from both
procedures should not be very different. Furthermore, by using TSM
you have the additional possibility of applying cluster-wise simulation-based
multiple comparison procedures implemented in Freesurfer.  LME must
be used to address more complicated designs with time-varying
covariates, variable timing across subjects, variable drop-out rate
across measurement occasions, different number of repeated measures
across subjects (even a single time point) and subjects with more
than three repeated measures. 

For your intra-group analyses using LME
you simply need to test whether group-specific slopes of change are
different from zero. You don't need to fit the model again for this. For the 
reference group you should simply test the
coefficient of the time variable:

CM.C = [0 1 0 0] 

and for the other group the contrast is
given by the sum of the previous coefficient and the coefficient of
the interaction term:

CM.C = [0 1 0 1]


Best
-Jorge






 De: Alex Hanganu al.hang...@yahoo.ca
Para: FS Mailing List Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu; Jorge L. Bernal-Rusiel 
jber...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
Enviado: Martes 12 de febrero de 2013 18:29
Asunto: [Freesurfer] LME - contrast
 

Dear Jorge,

For the statistical analysis of longitudinal data we used the Two
Stage Model (TSM) and the Linear Mixed Effects.

Our intergroup LME results (2 groups, 2 time points) had many
similarities with TSM results. Then with TSM we analysed the
intragroup changes (one group, and 2 time points). We tried to do
the same analysis with LME but the results are very different, so I
suppose that the contrast was incorrect.

For the intergroup analysis (2 groups x 2 time points) I used lme_mass_fit_vw 
and CM.C = [0 0 0 1];

For the intragroup (1 group x 2 time points) I also used lme_mass_fit_vw but 
CM.C = [0 1];

Can you please tell me if the CM.C is correct ? or is there
something else I should change ?

Thanks,

Best regards,

Alex.

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