[Freesurfer] Different MPRAGE sequences

2013-03-28 Thread _andreia_
Hello list,

I have a group of subjects (4 patients  and 8 controls) in which one  
MPRAGE sequence was used and another group of subjects (2 patients and  
2 controls) where a diffent MPRAGE was used. Both groups were acquired  
in the same scanner. For each subject I have two anatomical sequences  
and I'm working with the average dataset. My question is can I put  
both groups together for comparision?

I've thought about this and I can't really be sure... I was thinking  
that since for group 2 the number of acquisitions is balanced maybe  
the overall impact of different sequences won't be significative...  
Patients and subjects are age-matched in both groups.

Please, any advice will be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!
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Re: [Freesurfer] Different MPRAGE sequences

2013-03-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
it really depends on what the differences are. The best thing to do would 
be to scan some controls with both sequences and see what the differences 
are, although that won't rule out some disease-specific differences that 
you only see in the patients

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, _andre...@sapo.pt wrote:

 Hello list,

 I have a group of subjects (4 patients  and 8 controls) in which one
 MPRAGE sequence was used and another group of subjects (2 patients and
 2 controls) where a diffent MPRAGE was used. Both groups were acquired
 in the same scanner. For each subject I have two anatomical sequences
 and I'm working with the average dataset. My question is can I put
 both groups together for comparision?

 I've thought about this and I can't really be sure... I was thinking
 that since for group 2 the number of acquisitions is balanced maybe
 the overall impact of different sequences won't be significative...
 Patients and subjects are age-matched in both groups.

 Please, any advice will be greatly appreciated!

 Thank you!
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Re: [Freesurfer] Different MPRAGE sequences

2013-03-28 Thread Bruce Fischl
p.s. you would be better off if you had the same proportion of patients 
and controls with each sequence. Matching the numbers within one sequence 
and not the other doesn't really help

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, _andre...@sapo.pt 
wrote:

 Hello list,

 I have a group of subjects (4 patients  and 8 controls) in which one
 MPRAGE sequence was used and another group of subjects (2 patients and
 2 controls) where a diffent MPRAGE was used. Both groups were acquired
 in the same scanner. For each subject I have two anatomical sequences
 and I'm working with the average dataset. My question is can I put
 both groups together for comparision?

 I've thought about this and I can't really be sure... I was thinking
 that since for group 2 the number of acquisitions is balanced maybe
 the overall impact of different sequences won't be significative...
 Patients and subjects are age-matched in both groups.

 Please, any advice will be greatly appreciated!

 Thank you!
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Re: [Freesurfer] Different MPRAGE sequences

2013-03-28 Thread _andreia_
Hi Bruce,

I did that test some time ago (each sequence alone or averaged) but  
only with one control subject. I then checked the values of different  
measures and the cortical thickness maps for each situation and they  
were very similar indeed. I did it only with one subject because the  
point was to choose one of the MPRAGEs. But now that I need to drag  
conclusions I wasn't sure if the different sequences would be a major  
problem and would invalidate the conclusions.

I'll match the number of subjects for each sequence but bearing in  
mind that I have two different sequences anyway.


Thank you for the help!

Andreia


Quoting Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu:

 p.s. you would be better off if you had the same proportion of  
 patients and controls with each sequence. Matching the numbers  
 within one sequence and not the other doesn't really help

 On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, _andre...@sapo.pt wrote:

 Hello list,

 I have a group of subjects (4 patients  and 8 controls) in which one
 MPRAGE sequence was used and another group of subjects (2 patients and
 2 controls) where a diffent MPRAGE was used. Both groups were acquired
 in the same scanner. For each subject I have two anatomical sequences
 and I'm working with the average dataset. My question is can I put
 both groups together for comparision?

 I've thought about this and I can't really be sure... I was thinking
 that since for group 2 the number of acquisitions is balanced maybe
 the overall impact of different sequences won't be significative...
 Patients and subjects are age-matched in both groups.

 Please, any advice will be greatly appreciated!

 Thank you!
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