Re: [Freesurfer] FW: poor grey/white distinction in superior part of scan

2014-01-24 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Christine

this looks to me like a consequence of the high myelin content of motor 
cortex.If there really is as little contrast there as seems from your 
image there is not much you can do except change the acquisition. If you 
give us the details we can help with this.


cheers
Bruce
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Matt Glasser 
wrote:





From: Christine Smith cnsm...@ucsd.edu
Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:58 PM
To: Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] poor grey/white distinction in superior part of
scan

Please note that the left and right sides of the brain are flipped for
freesurfer vs the dicom picture. Please find attached a dicom picture that
is oriented the same way as freesurfer. Sorry for any confusion. 


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Christine Smith cnsm...@ucsd.edu wrote:
  Dear Matt, 
Please find attached two pictures. One is of the brain from
reconstructed dicom files (using AFNI). The other one is a pic from
tkmedit of the same subject and approximately the same slice of brain.
Notice that the freesurfer image is very bright. Look at the white
matter and pial lines (i.e., cortical thickness) in the upper left
hand part of the image and see how thin the cortex appears. Notice
also, that there is very little grey/white contrast in this same area
in the brain image reconstructed from dicoms. 

Please let me know if there are any other pictures you might desire or
information you might need. 

Christine


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com
wrote:
  Some pictures would probably be helpful to know what the
  issue is.

Peace,

Matt.

From: Christine Smith cnsm...@ucsd.edu
Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:05 PM
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: [Freesurfer] poor grey/white distinction in superior
part of scan

Hello,
I am emailing to inquire about whether poor grey/white contrast
in one part of a scan (i.e., the posterior and superior part of
the scan; ~parietal cortex) can be addressed. The contrast in
other parts of the scan looks good and freesurfer does a great
job of distinguishing white from grey. For the parietal cortex
area the cortex appears very thin. In addition, the entire brain
appears 'white' or bright, even though the brain doesn't look
this bright if you reconstruct it from dicoms. 

We have now obtained 4 scans like this, so it isn't just one
person with thinning cortex. 

How can I make an adjustment to only this superior part of the
brain and leave the rest of it alone? Or do I need to make an
adjustment to the intensity early on for the entire scan and
then basically start over with editing? 

Best,
Christine

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Department of Psychiatry
University of California, San Diego
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[Freesurfer] FW: poor grey/white distinction in superior part of scan

2014-01-23 Thread Matt Glasser


From:  Christine Smith cnsm...@ucsd.edu
Date:  Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:58 PM
To:  Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com
Subject:  Re: [Freesurfer] poor grey/white distinction in superior part of
scan

Please note that the left and right sides of the brain are flipped for
freesurfer vs the dicom picture. Please find attached a dicom picture that
is oriented the same way as freesurfer. Sorry for any confusion.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Christine Smith cnsm...@ucsd.edu wrote:
 Dear Matt, 
 
 Please find attached two pictures. One is of the brain from reconstructed
 dicom files (using AFNI). The other one is a pic from tkmedit of the same
 subject and approximately the same slice of brain. Notice that the freesurfer
 image is very bright. Look at the white matter and pial lines (i.e., cortical
 thickness) in the upper left hand part of the image and see how thin the
 cortex appears. Notice also, that there is very little grey/white contrast in
 this same area in the brain image reconstructed from dicoms.
 
 Please let me know if there are any other pictures you might desire or
 information you might need.
 
 Christine
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Matt Glasser m...@ma-tea.com wrote:
 Some pictures would probably be helpful to know what the issue is.
 
 Peace,
 
 Matt.
 
 From:  Christine Smith cnsm...@ucsd.edu
 Date:  Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:05 PM
 To:  freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject:  [Freesurfer] poor grey/white distinction in superior part of scan
 
 Hello,
 
 I am emailing to inquire about whether poor grey/white contrast in one part
 of a scan (i.e., the posterior and superior part of the scan; ~parietal
 cortex) can be addressed. The contrast in other parts of the scan looks good
 and freesurfer does a great job of distinguishing white from grey. For the
 parietal cortex area the cortex appears very thin. In addition, the entire
 brain appears 'white' or bright, even though the brain doesn't look this
 bright if you reconstruct it from dicoms.
 
 We have now obtained 4 scans like this, so it isn't just one person with
 thinning cortex.
 
 How can I make an adjustment to only this superior part of the brain and
 leave the rest of it alone? Or do I need to make an adjustment to the
 intensity early on for the entire scan and then basically start over with
 editing? 
 
 Best,
 Christine
 
 -- 
 Christine N. Smith, Ph.D.
 Department of Psychiatry
 University of California, San Diego
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