Re: [Freesurfer] How to edit the pial surface

2012-05-21 Thread Bruce Fischl

what is the name of the file you uploaded?
On Mon, 21 May 2012, Meng Li 
wrote:



Hi professor,
The subject has been uploaded. Can you give me some advice to troubleshoot the 
outputs.
Thanks.
Meng Li

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At 2012-05-20 21:27:28,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
  If you put the gzipped and tarred subject dir on our FTP site I'll take a 
look

Cheers
Bruce



On May 20, 2012, at 12:41 AM, ?? limengsec...@126.com wrote:

  Hi professor,
The attachment is the subject after running the recon-all command. MR data were 
obtained on a 1.5T Philips Achieva Nova
Dual MR  scanner. the sequence name is T1W.3D.FFE.SENSE and the voxel size is 
0.90*0.90*1mm. how should I fix the poor
quality surface reconstruction?
 
Thanks a lot for your help.
Meng Li

At 2012-05-19 23:10:31,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
p.s. looks like an intensity normalization failure. Can you give us details 
of the acquisition? Sequence name, voxel resolution, etc? If you upload 
the subject I'll take a look

cheers
Bruce

On Sat, 19 May 2012, 
limengsecret wrote:

 Hi Professor,
 The image blow shows the problems which occur.
 color lines representing the surfaces (pial and white) were not along the
 folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather short.
 How to deal with these problems?
  [IMAGE]
 Thanks.
  
 Meng Li
  
 
 
 limengsecret
  
 From: Bruce Fischl
 Date: 2012-05-19 22:08
 To: ??
 CC: freesurfer
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to edit the pial surface
 Hi Meng
  
 1. Not positive  I understand, but I don't think it should matter.
  
 2. we'll need to see some data to diagnose this.
  
 cheers
 Bruce
  
  
 On Sat, 19 May 2012, ?? wrote:
  
  
  Hi FreeSurfer Experts,
  
  I had 2 question about the output troubleshooting.
  
  ?
  
  1)?? when I used the mri_convert command, the format of the input image I
  choosed was 4D nii format, but not the original dicom format, which would
  affect the result of reconstruction?
  
  2)?? When I checked the quality of output using tksurfer, I found the
  color line representing the surface (pial and white) were not along the
  folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather shor
 t.
  Whether or not it was caused by the bad GM/WM contrast? What is the best
?? ?way
  to deal with them?
  
  ?
  
  Thanks.
  
  ?
  
  Meng Li
  
  
  
  
 
  
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] How to edit the pial surface

2012-05-21 Thread Meng Li
the name of the file uploaded is sub.rar. 


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At 2012-05-21 21:02:46,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
what is the name of the file you uploaded?
On Mon, 21 May 2012, Meng Li 
wrote:

 Hi professor,
 The subject has been uploaded. Can you give me some advice to troubleshoot 
 the outputs.
 Thanks.
 Meng Li
 
 --
 
 
 At 2012-05-20 21:27:28,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
   If you put the gzipped and tarred subject dir on our FTP site I'll 
 take a look
 
 Cheers
 Bruce
 
 
 
 On May 20, 2012, at 12:41 AM, ?? limengsec...@126.com wrote:

   Hi professor,
 The attachment is the subject after running the recon-all command. MR data 
 were obtained on a 1.5T Philips Achieva Nova
 Dual MR  scanner. the sequence name is T1W.3D.FFE.SENSE and the voxel size 
 is 0.90*0.90*1mm. how should I fix the poor
 quality surface reconstruction?
  
 Thanks a lot for your help.
 Meng Li
 
 At 2012-05-19 23:10:31,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 p.s. looks like an intensity normalization failure. Can you give us details 
 of the acquisition? Sequence name, voxel resolution, etc? If you upload 
 the subject I'll take a look
 
 cheers
 Bruce
 
 On Sat, 19 May 2012, 
 limengsecret wrote:
 
  Hi Professor,
  The image blow shows the problems which occur.
  color lines representing the surfaces (pial and white) were not along the
  folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather 
  short.
  How to deal with these problems?
   [IMAGE]
  Thanks.
   
  Meng Li
   
  
  
  limengsecret
   
  From: Bruce Fischl
  Date: 2012-05-19 22:08
  To: ??
  CC: freesurfer
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to edit the pial surface
  Hi Meng
   
  1. Not positive  I understand, but I don't think it should matter.
   
  2. we'll need to see some data to diagnose this.
   
  cheers
  Bruce
   
   
  On Sat, 19 May 2012, ?? wrote:
   
   
   Hi FreeSurfer Experts,
   
   I had 2 question about the output troubleshooting.
   
   ?
   
   1)?? when I used the mri_convert command, the format of the input image 
   I
   choosed was 4D nii format, but not the original dicom format, which 
   would
   affect the result of reconstruction?
   
   2)?? When I checked the quality of output using tksurfer, I found the
   color line representing the surface (pial and white) were not along the
   folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather 
   shor
  t.
   Whether or not it was caused by the bad GM/WM contrast? What is the best
 ?? ?way
   to deal with them?
   
   ?
   
   Thanks.
   
   ?
   
   Meng Li
   
   
   
   
  
   
   
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Re: [Freesurfer] How to edit the pial surface

2012-05-21 Thread Bruce Fischl
ok, found it. It's very, very low contrast. What flip angle and TE did 
you use. I can't visually distinguish gray from white in many regions 
such as motor cortex, so I can't imagine that you can get good thickness 
estimates over much of the brain. You could still use them for functional 
analysis, or possibly for thickness in other regions that have longer T1 
such as frontal or anterior temporal. You can try creating an expert 
options file and adding the entry:


mri_normalize -gentle

then running

recon-all -expert expert.opts -s sub -all


cheers
Bruce



On Mon, 21 May 2012, Meng Li wrote:


the name of the file uploaded is sub.rar. 

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At 2012-05-21 21:02:46,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
what is the name of the file you uploaded?
On Mon, 21 May 2012, Meng Li 
wrote:

 Hi professor,
 The subject has been uploaded. Can you give me some advice to troubleshoot the outputs.
 Thanks.
 Meng Li
 
 --
 
 
 At 2012-05-20 21:27:28,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
   If you put the gzipped and tarred subject dir on our FTP site I'll take a look
 
 Cheers
 Bruce
 
 
 
 On May 20, 2012, at 12:41 AM, ?? limengsec...@126.com wrote:

   Hi professor,
 The attachment is the subject after running the recon-all command. MR data were obtained on a 1.5T Philips Achieva Nova
 Dual MR  scanner. the sequence name is T1W.3D.FFE.SENSE and the voxel size is 0.90*0.90*1mm. how should I fix the poor
 quality surface reconstruction?
  
 Thanks a lot for your help.
 Meng Li
 
 At 2012-05-19 23:10:31,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 p.s. looks like an intensity normalization failure. Can you give us details 
 of the acquisition? Sequence name, voxel resolution, etc? If you upload 
 the subject I'll take a look
 
 cheers
 Bruce
 
 On Sat, 19 May 2012, 
 limengsecret wrote:
 
  Hi Professor,
  The image blow shows the problems which occur.
  color lines representing the surfaces (pial and white) were not along the
  folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather short.
  How to deal with these problems?
   [IMAGE]
  Thanks.
   
  Meng Li
   
  
  
  limengsecret
   
  From: Bruce Fischl
  Date: 2012-05-19 22:08
  To: ??
  CC: freesurfer
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to edit the pial surface
  Hi Meng
   
  1. Not positive  I understand, but I don't think it should matter.
   
  2. we'll need to see some data to diagnose this.
   
  cheers
  Bruce
   
   
  On Sat, 19 May 2012, ?? wrote:
   
   
   Hi FreeSurfer Experts,
   
   I had 2 question about the output troubleshooting.
   
   ?
   
   1)?? when I used the mri_convert command, the format of the input image I
   choosed was 4D nii format, but not the original dicom format, which would
   affect the result of reconstruction?
   
   2)?? When I checked the quality of output using tksurfer, I found the
   color line representing the surface (pial and white) were not along the
   folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather shor
  t.
   Whether or not it was caused by the bad GM/WM contrast? What is the best
 ?? ?way
   to deal with them?
   
   ?
   
   Thanks.
   
   ?
   
   Meng Li
   
   
   
   
  
   
   
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Re: [Freesurfer] How to edit the pial surface

2012-05-20 Thread Bruce Fischl
If you put the gzipped and tarred subject dir on our FTP site I'll take a look

Cheers
Bruce



On May 20, 2012, at 12:41 AM, 李盟 limengsec...@126.com wrote:

 Hi professor,
 The attachment is the subject after running the recon-all command. MR data 
 were obtained on a 1.5T Philips Achieva Nova Dual MR  scanner. the sequence 
 name is T1W.3D.FFE.SENSE and the voxel size is 0.90*0.90*1mm. how should I 
 fix the poor quality surface reconstruction?
  
 Thanks a lot for your help.
 Meng Li
 
 At 2012-05-19 23:10:31,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 p.s. looks like an intensity normalization failure. Can you give us details 
 of the acquisition? Sequence name, voxel resolution, etc? If you upload 
 the subject I'll take a look
 
 cheers
 Bruce
 
 On Sat, 19 May 2012, 
 limengsecret wrote:
 
  Hi Professor,
  The image blow shows the problems which occur.
  color lines representing the surfaces (pial and white) were not along the
  folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather short.
  How to deal with these problems?
   [IMAGE]
  Thanks.
   
  Meng Li
   
  
  
  limengsecret
   
  From: Bruce Fischl
  Date: 2012-05-19 22:08
  To: ??
  CC: freesurfer
  Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to edit the pial surface
  Hi Meng
   
  1. Not positive  I understand, but I don't think it should matter.
   
  2. we'll need to see some data to diagnose this.
   
  cheers
  Bruce
   
   
  On Sat, 19 May 2012, ?? wrote:
   
   
   Hi FreeSurfer Experts,
   
   I had 2 question about the output troubleshooting.
   
   ?
   
   1)?? when I used the mri_convert command, the format of the input image I
   choosed was 4D nii format, but not the original dicom format, which would
   affect the result of reconstruction?
   
   2)?? When I checked the quality of output using tksurfer, I found the
   color line representing the surface (pial and white) were not along the
   folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather shor
  t.
   Whether or not it was caused by the bad GM/WM contrast? What is the best
 ?? ?way
   to deal with them?
   
   ?
   
   Thanks.
   
   ?
   
   Meng Li
   
   
   
   
  
   
   
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Re: [Freesurfer] How to edit the pial surface

2012-05-20 Thread Meng Li
Hi professor,
The subject has been uploaded. Can you give me some advice to troubleshoot the 
outputs.
Thanks.
Meng Li


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At 2012-05-20 21:27:28,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

If you put the gzipped and tarred subject dir on our FTP site I'll take a look


Cheers
Bruce




On May 20, 2012, at 12:41 AM, 李盟 limengsec...@126.com wrote:


Hi professor,
The attachment is the subject after running the recon-all command. MR data were 
obtained on a 1.5T Philips Achieva Nova Dual MR  scanner. the sequence name is 
T1W.3D.FFE.SENSE and the voxel size is 0.90*0.90*1mm. how should I fix the poor 
quality surface reconstruction?
 
Thanks a lot for your help.
Meng Li


At 2012-05-19 23:10:31,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
p.s. looks like an intensity normalization failure. Can you give us details 
of the acquisition? Sequence name, voxel resolution, etc? If you upload 
the subject I'll take a look

cheers
Bruce

On Sat, 19 May 2012, 
limengsecret wrote:

 Hi Professor,
 The image blow shows the problems which occur.
 color lines representing the surfaces (pial and white) were not along the
 folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather short.
 How to deal with these problems?
  [IMAGE]
 Thanks.
  
 Meng Li
  
 
 
 limengsecret
  
 From: Bruce Fischl
 Date: 2012-05-19 22:08
 To: ??
 CC: freesurfer
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to edit the pial surface
 Hi Meng
  
 1. Not positive  I understand, but I don't think it should matter.
  
 2. we'll need to see some data to diagnose this.
  
 cheers
 Bruce
  
  
 On Sat, 19 May 2012, ?? wrote:
  
  
  Hi FreeSurfer Experts,
  
  I had 2 question about the output troubleshooting.
  
  ?
  
  1)?? when I used the mri_convert command, the format of the input image I
  choosed was 4D nii format, but not the original dicom format, which would
  affect the result of reconstruction?
  
  2)?? When I checked the quality of output using tksurfer, I found the
  color line representing the surface (pial and white) were not along the
  folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather shor
 t.
  Whether or not it was caused by the bad GM/WM contrast? What is the best
?? ?way
  to deal with them?
  
  ?
  
  Thanks.
  
  ?
  
  Meng Li
  
  
  
  
 
  
  
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[Freesurfer] how to edit the pial surface

2012-05-19 Thread 李盟
Hi FreeSurfer Experts,

I had 2 question about the output troubleshooting.

 

1) when I used the mri_convert command, the format of the input image I 
choosed was 4D nii format, but not the original dicom format, which would 
affect the result of reconstruction?

2) When I checked the quality of output using tksurfer, I found the color 
line representing the surface (pial and white) were not along the folding 
pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather short. Whether or 
not it was caused by the bad GM/WM contrast? What is the best way to deal with 
them?

 

Thanks.

 

Meng Li
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Re: [Freesurfer] how to edit the pial surface

2012-05-19 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Meng

1. Not positive  I understand, but I don't think it should matter.

2. we'll need to see some data to diagnose this.

cheers
Bruce


On Sat, 19 May 2012, ?? wrote:



Hi FreeSurfer Experts,

I had 2 question about the output troubleshooting.

 

1) when I used the mri_convert command, the format of the input image I
choosed was 4D nii format, but not the original dicom format, which would
affect the result of reconstruction?

2) When I checked the quality of output using tksurfer, I found the
color line representing the surface (pial and white) were not along the
folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather short.
Whether or not it was caused by the bad GM/WM contrast? What is the best way
to deal with them?

 

Thanks.

 

Meng Li




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[Freesurfer] How to edit the pial surface

2012-05-19 Thread 李盟
Hi professor,
The attachment is the subject after running the recon-all command. MR data were 
obtained on a 1.5T Philips Achieva Nova Dual MR  scanner. the sequence name is 
T1W.3D.FFE.SENSE and the voxel size is 0.90*0.90*1mm. how should I fix the poor 
quality surface reconstruction?
 
Thanks a lot for your help.
Meng Li


At 2012-05-19 23:10:31,Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
p.s. looks like an intensity normalization failure. Can you give us details 
of the acquisition? Sequence name, voxel resolution, etc? If you upload 
the subject I'll take a look

cheers
Bruce

On Sat, 19 May 2012, 
limengsecret wrote:

 Hi Professor,
 The image blow shows the problems which occur.
 color lines representing the surfaces (pial and white) were not along the
 folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather short.
 How to deal with these problems?
  [IMAGE]
 Thanks.
  
 Meng Li
  
 
 
 limengsecret
  
 From: Bruce Fischl
 Date: 2012-05-19 22:08
 To: ??
 CC: freesurfer
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] how to edit the pial surface
 Hi Meng
  
 1. Not positive  I understand, but I don't think it should matter.
  
 2. we'll need to see some data to diagnose this.
  
 cheers
 Bruce
  
  
 On Sat, 19 May 2012, ?? wrote:
  
  
  Hi FreeSurfer Experts,
  
  I had 2 question about the output troubleshooting.
  
  ?
  
  1)?? when I used the mri_convert command, the format of the input image I
  choosed was 4D nii format, but not the original dicom format, which would
  affect the result of reconstruction?
  
  2)?? When I checked the quality of output using tksurfer, I found the
  color line representing the surface (pial and white) were not along the
  folding pattern, and the distance between the two sufaces was rather shor
 t.
  Whether or not it was caused by the bad GM/WM contrast? What is the best
?? ?way
  to deal with them?
  
  ?
  
  Thanks.
  
  ?
  
  Meng Li
  
  
  
  
 
  
  
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