[Freesurfer] mris_thickness qcache for xhemi surfaces

2013-03-28 Thread Ejoe Yizhou Ma
Dear Freesurfer experts,

I'm trying to investigate lh-to-rh asymmetry, so I register my subjects to
the subject of fsaverage_sym following the instructions on this page:
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi. After all the surfreg
commands I've got ?h.thickness files in subjid/xhemi/surf.

In my lab we generally process ?h.thickness files with the next two
commands before statistically analysis:

mris_thickness -max 10 subjid ?h thickness_max10
recon-all -qcache -measure thickness_max10 -target fsaverage_510 -fwhm 10
-no-isrunning -s subjid -hemi ?h

To keep with this protocol, my questions are
1) how do I use mris_thickness properly so that I don't overwrite the
files registered to fsaverage_510?
2) in recon-all -qcache, will it do the trick by substituting
fsaverage_sym for fsaverage_510?

Thank you in advance,
Cherry
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_thickness qcache for xhemi surfaces

2013-03-28 Thread Douglas N Greve

On 03/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ejoe Yizhou Ma wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer experts,

 I'm trying to investigate lh-to-rh asymmetry, so I register my 
 subjects to the subject of fsaverage_sym following the instructions on 
 this page: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi. After all 
 the surfreg commands I've got ?h.thickness files in subjid/xhemi/surf.

 In my lab we generally process ?h.thickness files with the next two 
 commands before statistically analysis:

 mris_thickness -max 10 subjid ?h thickness_max10
 recon-all -qcache -measure thickness_max10 -target fsaverage_510 
 -fwhm 10 -no-isrunning -s subjid -hemi ?h

 To keep with this protocol, my questions are
 1) how do I use mris_thickness properly so that I don't overwrite 
 the files registered to fsaverage_510?
I think it will recreate the basic ?h.thickness file and will not touch 
registrations.
 2) in recon-all -qcache, will it do the trick by substituting 
 fsaverage_sym for fsaverage_510?

Yes, that should work.
 Thank you in advance,
 Cherry



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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_thickness qcache for xhemi surfaces

2013-03-28 Thread Douglas N Greve


Actually, #2 will not work. I don't think you can use qdec with the 
xhemi stuff anyway. You should use the mris_preproc command followed by 
mri_glmfit.
doug


On 03/28/2013 12:51 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
 On 03/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ejoe Yizhou Ma wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer experts,

 I'm trying to investigate lh-to-rh asymmetry, so I register my
 subjects to the subject of fsaverage_sym following the instructions on
 this page: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi. After all
 the surfreg commands I've got ?h.thickness files in subjid/xhemi/surf.

 In my lab we generally process ?h.thickness files with the next two
 commands before statistically analysis:

 mris_thickness -max 10 subjid ?h thickness_max10
 recon-all -qcache -measure thickness_max10 -target fsaverage_510
 -fwhm 10 -no-isrunning -s subjid -hemi ?h

 To keep with this protocol, my questions are
 1) how do I use mris_thickness properly so that I don't overwrite
 the files registered to fsaverage_510?
 I think it will recreate the basic ?h.thickness file and will not touch
 registrations.
 2) in recon-all -qcache, will it do the trick by substituting
 fsaverage_sym for fsaverage_510?

 Yes, that should work.
 Thank you in advance,
 Cherry



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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_thickness qcache for xhemi surfaces

2013-03-28 Thread Ejoe Yizhou Ma
Thanks, Doug.

I'm not planning to use qdec. It's just that I used to generate the
?h.thickness_max10.fwhm10.fsaverage_510.mgh files (which are what we name
the files after running the two commands) before I use mris_preproc and
mri_glmfit. I also generally skip the smooth step in freesurfer tutorial
since the files are smoothed in the first place.

Any suggestions?

Cherry

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:



 Actually, #2 will not work. I don't think you can use qdec with the
 xhemi stuff anyway. You should use the mris_preproc command followed by
 mri_glmfit.
 doug


 On 03/28/2013 12:51 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
  On 03/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ejoe Yizhou Ma wrote:
  Dear Freesurfer experts,
 
  I'm trying to investigate lh-to-rh asymmetry, so I register my
  subjects to the subject of fsaverage_sym following the instructions on
  this page: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi. After all
  the surfreg commands I've got ?h.thickness files in subjid/xhemi/surf.
 
  In my lab we generally process ?h.thickness files with the next two
  commands before statistically analysis:
 
  mris_thickness -max 10 subjid ?h thickness_max10
  recon-all -qcache -measure thickness_max10 -target fsaverage_510
  -fwhm 10 -no-isrunning -s subjid -hemi ?h
 
  To keep with this protocol, my questions are
  1) how do I use mris_thickness properly so that I don't overwrite
  the files registered to fsaverage_510?
  I think it will recreate the basic ?h.thickness file and will not touch
  registrations.
  2) in recon-all -qcache, will it do the trick by substituting
  fsaverage_sym for fsaverage_510?
 
  Yes, that should work.
  Thank you in advance,
  Cherry
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_thickness qcache for xhemi surfaces

2013-03-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Cherry, what I meant was that you cannot use the qcache with xhemi. 
You'll need to run the mris_preproc command as listed on the web page.
doug

On 03/28/2013 01:00 PM, Ejoe Yizhou Ma wrote:
 Thanks, Doug.

 I'm not planning to use qdec. It's just that I used to generate the 
 ?h.thickness_max10.fwhm10.fsaverage_510.mgh files (which are what we 
 name the files after running the two commands) before I use 
 mris_preproc and mri_glmfit. I also generally skip the smooth step 
 in freesurfer tutorial since the files are smoothed in the first place.

 Any suggestions?

 Cherry

 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:



 Actually, #2 will not work. I don't think you can use qdec with the
 xhemi stuff anyway. You should use the mris_preproc command
 followed by
 mri_glmfit.
 doug


 On 03/28/2013 12:51 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
  On 03/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ejoe Yizhou Ma wrote:
  Dear Freesurfer experts,
 
  I'm trying to investigate lh-to-rh asymmetry, so I register my
  subjects to the subject of fsaverage_sym following the
 instructions on
  this page: http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi.
 After all
  the surfreg commands I've got ?h.thickness files in
 subjid/xhemi/surf.
 
  In my lab we generally process ?h.thickness files with the next two
  commands before statistically analysis:
 
  mris_thickness -max 10 subjid ?h thickness_max10
  recon-all -qcache -measure thickness_max10 -target fsaverage_510
  -fwhm 10 -no-isrunning -s subjid -hemi ?h
 
  To keep with this protocol, my questions are
  1) how do I use mris_thickness properly so that I don't overwrite
  the files registered to fsaverage_510?
  I think it will recreate the basic ?h.thickness file and will
 not touch
  registrations.
  2) in recon-all -qcache, will it do the trick by substituting
  fsaverage_sym for fsaverage_510?
 
  Yes, that should work.
  Thank you in advance,
  Cherry
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] mris_thickness qcache for xhemi surfaces

2013-03-28 Thread Ejoe Yizhou Ma
I see. Then I think I'd better just follow the instructions on the Xhemi
page. Thanks!

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Douglas N Greve
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Cherry, what I meant was that you cannot use the qcache with xhemi.
 You'll need to run the mris_preproc command as listed on the web page.
 doug


 On 03/28/2013 01:00 PM, Ejoe Yizhou Ma wrote:

 Thanks, Doug.

 I'm not planning to use qdec. It's just that I used to generate the
 ?h.thickness_max10.fwhm10.**fsaverage_510.mgh files (which are what we
 name the files after running the two commands) before I use mris_preproc
 and mri_glmfit. I also generally skip the smooth step in freesurfer
 tutorial since the files are smoothed in the first place.

 Any suggestions?

 Cherry

 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:



 Actually, #2 will not work. I don't think you can use qdec with the
 xhemi stuff anyway. You should use the mris_preproc command
 followed by
 mri_glmfit.
 doug


 On 03/28/2013 12:51 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
  On 03/28/2013 12:16 PM, Ejoe Yizhou Ma wrote:
  Dear Freesurfer experts,
 
  I'm trying to investigate lh-to-rh asymmetry, so I register my
  subjects to the subject of fsaverage_sym following the
 instructions on
  this page: 
 http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu/fswiki/Xhemihttp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/Xhemi
 .
 After all
  the surfreg commands I've got ?h.thickness files in
 subjid/xhemi/surf.
 
  In my lab we generally process ?h.thickness files with the next two
  commands before statistically analysis:
 
  mris_thickness -max 10 subjid ?h thickness_max10
  recon-all -qcache -measure thickness_max10 -target fsaverage_510
  -fwhm 10 -no-isrunning -s subjid -hemi ?h
 
  To keep with this protocol, my questions are
  1) how do I use mris_thickness properly so that I don't overwrite
  the files registered to fsaverage_510?
  I think it will recreate the basic ?h.thickness file and will
 not touch
  registrations.
  2) in recon-all -qcache, will it do the trick by substituting
  fsaverage_sym for fsaverage_510?
 
  Yes, that should work.
  Thank you in advance,
  Cherry
 
 
 
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