Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical labels for WM seeding

2013-09-09 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Sean

I think using mris_expand with a negative number is the better way to do 
this. Then use the resulting surface for the seed. It should prevent the 
surface from passing through itself (which is what you are seeing)

cheers
Bruce

On Mon, 9 
Sep 2013, Sean Hatton wrote:

> Hello FS Gurus,
>
> I would like to export FS labels as seed regions for deterministic 
> tractography in TrackVis (probabilistic is not appropriate in this 
> investigation). I run mri_label2vol with ?--proj abs -4 0 .1? to try and grow 
> the label into the WM and exclude GM. While I get a biologically plausible 
> ROIs and plenty of good streamlines, I do get some stray streamlines that 
> jump across the sulci into adjacent gyri which (I have read) is an artefact 
> of seeding from GM. Have I got the right approach? Should I create an inverse 
> intracranial volume mask as an exclusion mask? Something else?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sean Hatton
> Brain & Mind Research Institute
> University of Sydney, Australia.
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Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical labels for WM seeding

2013-09-09 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


I'd probably try GM plus a (DWI-sized) voxel or so into the WM.

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Sean Hatton wrote:


Great, I will give that a shot. In the seeding ROI should I combine the gm and 
wm labels or is the GM sufficient to encapsulate, say, the superior temporal 
gurus GM and WM?

Anastasia Yendiki  wrote:


Hi Sean - Do you mean that the streamlines go through non-brain voxels?
You could you a slightly dilated version of the aparc+aseg as a mask. You
can use bbregister to map it to the subject's DWI space.

a.y

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Sean Hatton wrote:


Hello FS Gurus,

I would like to export FS labels as seed regions for deterministic
tractography in TrackVis (probabilistic is not appropriate in this
investigation). I run mri_label2vol with “--proj abs -4 0 .1” to try and
grow the label into the WM and exclude GM. While I get a biologically
plausible ROIs and plenty of good streamlines, I do get some stray
streamlines that jump across the sulci into adjacent gyri which (I have
read) is an artefact of seeding from GM. Have I got the right approach?
Should I create an inverse intracranial volume mask as an exclusion
mask? Something else?

Kind regards,

Sean Hatton
Brain & Mind Research Institute
University of Sydney, Australia.
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Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical labels for WM seeding

2013-09-09 Thread Sean Hatton
Great, I will give that a shot. In the seeding ROI should I combine the gm and 
wm labels or is the GM sufficient to encapsulate, say, the superior temporal 
gurus GM and WM?

Anastasia Yendiki  wrote:


Hi Sean - Do you mean that the streamlines go through non-brain voxels?
You could you a slightly dilated version of the aparc+aseg as a mask. You
can use bbregister to map it to the subject's DWI space.

a.y

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Sean Hatton wrote:

> Hello FS Gurus,
>
> I would like to export FS labels as seed regions for deterministic
> tractography in TrackVis (probabilistic is not appropriate in this
> investigation). I run mri_label2vol with “--proj abs -4 0 .1” to try and
> grow the label into the WM and exclude GM. While I get a biologically
> plausible ROIs and plenty of good streamlines, I do get some stray
> streamlines that jump across the sulci into adjacent gyri which (I have
> read) is an artefact of seeding from GM. Have I got the right approach?
> Should I create an inverse intracranial volume mask as an exclusion
> mask? Something else?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Sean Hatton
> Brain & Mind Research Institute
> University of Sydney, Australia.
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Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical labels for WM seeding

2013-09-09 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Sean - Do you mean that the streamlines go through non-brain voxels? 
You could you a slightly dilated version of the aparc+aseg as a mask. You 
can use bbregister to map it to the subject's DWI space.


a.y

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Sean Hatton wrote:


Hello FS Gurus,

I would like to export FS labels as seed regions for deterministic 
tractography in TrackVis (probabilistic is not appropriate in this 
investigation). I run mri_label2vol with “--proj abs -4 0 .1” to try and 
grow the label into the WM and exclude GM. While I get a biologically 
plausible ROIs and plenty of good streamlines, I do get some stray 
streamlines that jump across the sulci into adjacent gyri which (I have 
read) is an artefact of seeding from GM. Have I got the right approach? 
Should I create an inverse intracranial volume mask as an exclusion 
mask? Something else?


Kind regards,

Sean Hatton
Brain & Mind Research Institute
University of Sydney, Australia.
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RE: [Freesurfer] cortical labels

2006-03-15 Thread Doug Greve


recon-all already creates such a volume. Look at aparc+aseg.mgz. You
can load it as a segmentation, same as aseg.mgz





On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Kevin Teich wrote:


but I would still like to know if there is anyway to build an mgz
image of the grey volume segmented accordingly to ?h.aparc.annot. I
hope you can help me.


In tksurfer, you can import an annotation as a segmentation file. This
will fill the voxels between surfaces with the label in the annotation
file. Then you can save this segmentation as a new volume.




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RE: [Freesurfer] cortical labels

2006-03-15 Thread Kevin Teich
> but I would still like to know if there is anyway to build an mgz
> image of the grey volume segmented accordingly to ?h.aparc.annot. I
> hope you can help me.

In tksurfer, you can import an annotation as a segmentation file. This
will fill the voxels between surfaces with the label in the annotation
file. Then you can save this segmentation as a new volume.

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RE: [Freesurfer] cortical labels

2006-03-15 Thread Pellegrini, Stefano (NIH/NINDS) [F]
thank you very much Bruce, 

but I would still like to know if there is anyway to build an mgz image of the 
grey volume segmented accordingly to ?h.aparc.annot. I hope you can help me.

thanks, 

  -ste



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To: Pellegrini, Stefano (NIH/NINDS) [F]
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] cortical labels
 
the ?h.aparc.annot file contains this info, but as a surface file. Load 
it in tksurfer via file->label->import annotation.

cheers,
Bruce
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 
Pellegrini, Stefano (NIH/NINDS) [F] wrote:

>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I have seen that the aseg.mgz file allows to see the segmentation of the 
> whole brain volume in different areas. Is there any way to obtain an mgz file 
> with the cortical gray matter volume labeled in such a way that every 
> cortical region has a different intensity value?
> thanks,
>
>-stefano
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Re: [Freesurfer] cortical labels

2006-03-14 Thread Bruce Fischl
the ?h.aparc.annot file contains this info, but as a surface file. Load 
it in tksurfer via file->label->import annotation.


cheers,
Bruce
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 
Pellegrini, Stefano (NIH/NINDS) [F] wrote:




Hi everybody,

I have seen that the aseg.mgz file allows to see the segmentation of the whole 
brain volume in different areas. Is there any way to obtain an mgz file with 
the cortical gray matter volume labeled in such a way that every cortical 
region has a different intensity value?
thanks,

   -stefano

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