[Freetel-codec2] SM-1000

2023-07-20 Thread gerhard

Hello,

I am selling my SM-1000 as I do only use the FreeDV software on my PC 
any more.

EUR 80,-
I prefere to ship within EU because of declaration problems to send 
outside.


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Re: [Freetel-codec2] (no subject)

2022-11-05 Thread gerhard
Hi, I do have one, which I do mit use any more. But shipping to Canada 
might be a problem?


73 Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 05.11.2022 04:05, schrieb rudy soko:


Hi All
Does anybody know where to buy  "SM1000 FreeDV Adaptor"
Thx
Rudy VA3RGS

-

From: Mooneer Salem 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 10:59 PM
To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net 


Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] (no subject)

Hi Tom.

Are you referring to just the Codec2 library or did you want to install 
the FreeDV application itself? If the former, you should be able to use 
MinGW to compile it as that's what we use for Windows builds of the 
FreeDV application.


Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 6:36 PM Tom - Cartoon  
wrote:


how do I install codec2 in my windows machine 
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[Freetel-codec2] FreeDV over satellite - new HS-modem

2022-05-27 Thread gerhard

Hello,

I want to point you to a new Codec-2 application over the QO-100 
satellite:


http://dd1us.de/Downloads/Manual%20HSModem%20rev%202.03.pdf

Codec-2 is just experimental mode within this modem, but anyway a good 
advertisement. They are looking for a higher datarate version.


Have fun and cu tomorrow at the activity day (on shortwave and 
satellite?).


73 Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 23.02.2022 08:20, schrieb Mooneer Salem:


Hi all,

Due to popular demand, we'll be doing another FreeDV Activity Day on 
Saturday, May 28, 2022! This event will bring together people 
interested in HF digital voice on the air for conversation and fun. 
Contacts usingthe official application [1] as well as the SM1000 
handheld microphone are welcome.


Event time: 9AM Pacific time (1600Z) on May 28th to 8:59AM (1559Z) on 
May 29th (24 hours)

Suggested frequencies:
80 meters: 3.625, 3.643 or 3.693 MHz
40 meters: 7.177 MHz
20 meters: 14.236 MHz
17 meters: 18.118 MHz
15 meters: 21.313 MHz
12 meters: 24.933 MHz
10 meters: 28.330 or 28.720 MHz

(Note that LSB/DIGL is used below 10MHz as per current convention for 
voice modes, USB/DIGU otherwise.)


As this isn't a contest, there's no pressure to make contacts or send 
logs, but you can always confirm QSOs via the usual means if you'd like 
(LoTW, eQSL, QRZ, etc.) Enabling PSK Reporter in the FreeDV application 
and joining theQSO Finder [2]are recommended, however, so others can 
see that you're on the air and hearing them (for instance, here'sthe 
current map of listeners [3]). :D


Feel free to spread this far and wide among your local ham friends and 
groups! :) Let me know if you have any questions about the event and 
definitely post here if you have issues getting the application working 
prior to the event.


Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ
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[2] http://qso.freedv.org/
[3] 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

2020-10-25 Thread gerhard

Hello Walter and all others,

Very interesting project.

I think a step in between could be to connect the M17-Client to a 
Gnu-Radio / Adalm Pluto TRX setup and use MMDVM / M17.  That would 
proove the audio quality best.


I am goint to setup the M17-Client next days. Could also install a M17 
repeater at OE3XNK using LimeSDR or Pluto as soon some software is 
ready.


Regards

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 25.10.2020 02:24, schrieb walt...@k5wh.net:

I honestly don't see how that claim could be made at this time, as 
there is NO radio on the air at this point to demonstrate that. 


Perhaps it's a theoretical performance based on the current design, and 
it would certainly be incredible to see that.


Right now, we are ONLY using software on linux to connect to the 
backend reflectors.


So hopefully we will know about the true results when the guys get 
their radios going in a week or two, as their components are still 
coming in from vendors.


Walter/K5WH

-Original Message-
From: David Rowe 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 7:28 PM
To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project

Thanks Walter.  I was wondering about this statement on the M17 page:

"M17 uses Codec2, written and developed by David Rowe. Codec2 
outperforms existing proprietary and patented (non-free) vocoders 
currently available."


Do you (or others on this list) think Codec 2 at 3200 bits/ outperforms 
the codecs used for DMR/DStar and friends?


- David

On 25/10/20 10:01 am, walt...@k5wh.net wrote:


Here's a few notes I sent to someone else earlier today.























M17 is a very NEW project with a great deal of traction just recently.














https://m17project.org/faq/ [1]  has some details about what is 
happening.















This is a completely open source project using David Rowe's Codec2 for



the encoding scheme. Much like the FreeDV for HF we have been using



for many years.















They have modified the back-end around Dstar for the reflectors and



modules, using a very slightly modified version of the xlxd software



for building reflectors.















Seems that the reflector count has risen from 3 to 12 in the past 3



days, so the word is still getting out to others.



https://m17project.org/reflector/ [2]















There is no commercially available radio, but the TR-9 is the radio



that has been designed for it today. I understand they just got their



alpha pc-boards barely a week ago, and are still sourcing the


components for it. But there should be some RF available in a week or 
so.















Jonathon Naylor has just updated the MMDVM code to support M17, and



the hotspot devices and the gateway components are being worked next.



His early comment below.















Hi All







I've just finished the first round of developing M17 support for the



MMDVM. It is based on the current specification of M17, but it is a



dynamic protocol so it may well change before long. I've raised some



issue with the M17 developers which may mean changes to address those



issues.







Currently M17 won't work with MMDVM hotspots based on the chip



modem/radio, only those systems based on MMDVM modem boards. In theory



the levels are correct and you should be able to load the modem code,



and the MMDVM Host from the M17 branch and off you go. I don't know if



it works as I have no M17 radios. Once we get hotspot support for M17


then I think it'll be possible to use them as low powered M17 
transceivers.







On the networking side, it only connects to one M17 reflector, and



that is set in the ini file. Currently it's set to M17-USA module A.



If things move on with M17 then I will create a proper M17 Gateway



program with echo functionality to allow for dynamic control of the



reflector, but that is far off at the moment.







I have tested my code against itself, and most of it seems to work,



some corners have not been tested yet, but they will be in due course.







If anyone has an M17 transceiver and wishes to play with the code, I'd



be interested in what happens.







Jonathan  G4KLX























































So it is early in the development stages, but things are indeed moving



fast, as of just the ast few weeks.































Walter/K5WH















*From:* Adrian Musceac 



*Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:27 PM



*To:* freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net



*Subject:* Re: [Freetel-codec2] Comments on the M17 project















Hi Walter,







Is there like a mailing list of the project or something?







Adrian







On October 24, 2020 4:13:56 PM UTC, walt...@k5wh.net



<mailto:walt...@k5wh.net> wrote:







Several of us have been working with M17 for the past week, using



the Mvoice linux client, and it's working quite well with the



reflectors they hav

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power

2020-06-18 Thread gerhard
Hello All, 

What I can contribute to this discussion is: 


- For FreeDV operation on HF I am using normally 100 - 200 W average
power. My PA is a 2,5 kW SSB type. 


- I have now measured the average and peak powers using my WaveNode WN2
and KF-8KW RF Sensor, but just using my transceiver, so without the PA: 


mode
avg (W)
peak (W)
PAPR (dB)

1600
1.5
20.8
11,4

2020
1.9
13.4
8,5

700C
1.7
12.9
8,8

700D
1.6
12.2
8,8

800XA
7.2
10.4
1,6

Maybe that helps. 

73's 

Gerhard OE3GBB 


Am 18.06.2020 09:40, schrieb David Rowe:


Hi Take,

On HF channels OFDM is a neat solution to multipath problems like delay
spread and frequency selective fading. Single carrier modems are
possible but require a different design, in particular an equaliser to
handle the channel.

As Hams tend to have SSB radios, they are already designed for waveforms
(like analog SSB) that already have significant PAPR.  So OFDM is
reasonable fit to available hardware, despite the PAPR issues.

Cheers,
David

On 18/6/20 10:20 am, Tsutsumi Takehiko wrote: 


Hi Glen,

What is your position of Single-carrier FDMA or LP-OFDMA technology
compare to PARP reduction scheme which you have rich experience in your
memo?

I wonder why radio amateur society leaves PARP issue untouched when they
adopt OFDM technology.

Does it comes from SSB experience which has about 5dB PARP?

Regards,

take

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Hi David

I've been across OFDM PAPR reduction development for many years.

Most successful simple schemes involve some sort of selective mapping or
bit flipping.

-IE the PAPR is computed and an alternative trajectory is generated .

-These can be either tweaking the source bitstream slightly (many methods)

-and also providing overmapping of the constellation (say 64 QAM points
might only map to 48 unique symbols, giving the system a choice of some
other point that can convey the same data.

-and also deliberate FEC violation (modify the most encoded code and
remove/reduce the offenders)

-and also selective bit flipping - easy and fast.

I would encourage some form of PAPR reduction for any ham OFDM development.

Without it, OFDM is often and (and ignorantly) overdriven creating
spectrum headaches for adjacent channel users

-glen

On 17/06/2020 07:33, David Rowe wrote:

Hello List,

I've been working with Peter, VK3RV on the surprisingly tricky problem

of measuring FreeDV Tx power.

Over the weekend I built an inline "sampler" and tried a few averaging

options to measure the power of a 700D waveform on my spec-an.  I am

using my IC7200 with the drive adjusted so that the ALC just moves.  I

am sampling the power between the IC7200 and my ATU, which is connected

to a dipole on 40M.

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Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV/Codec2 to FM mixed mode repeater and network connection in QRadioLink

2019-10-17 Thread gerhard
Hi Adrian, 

I am operating a repeater (OE3XNB) and would be interested to run a
test. What hardware do we need? 

73's 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 17.10.2019 14:00, schrieb Adrian Musceac:

> Hi, 
> I made some more progress working on my application[1]. 
> First of all, it is now possible to run it headless (maybe even daemonized) 
> and control it remotely using a telnet client. 
> Second, I have added support for mixed mode repeater (Codec2/FM or viceversa 
> or any combination of modes like wideband Opus/Codec2/FreeDV/SSB etc.). 
> 
> The repeater can be connected to a VOIP server using the low latency Mumble 
> voice protocol (known especially for high-performance gaming). So it is 
> possible now to connect multiple repeaters together by putting them on the 
> same VOIP channel (this can be controlled via telnet as well, although it's 
> stil work in progress). They operate in full duplex mode, so a VOIP user can 
> talk at the same time as a radio user and the two audio streams will be mixed 
> together and broadcast. The FreeDV/Codec2 radio frames are transcoded to Opus 
> at very high bitrates (~48 kbit/s) for VOIP transport. This may cause some 
> small delays. 
> 
> I haven't really had time to test the cross-mode repeater so could use some 
> help there from interested parties. 
> 
> [1] http://qradiolink.org 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Adrian 
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[Freetel-codec2] Transmissions in mode2020 over QO-100 satellite

2019-08-06 Thread gerhard
Hello, 

for those of you outside the coverage of the QO-100 satellite: 

You can at least receive the transmissions in FreeDV mode2020 over
WebSDR (e.g. https://eshail.batc.org.uk/nb/) and VAC to the FreeDV
software. I am frequently sending test transmissions and calling CQ at
around 10489.650 MHz. Having adjusted my signal to 10 dB over
transponder noise I am getting back at SNR 4-5 in mode2020. Have to find
the most linear spot of my setting yet to increase my power for a few
more dBs :=). 

Would be nice to get RX reports of calls. 

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Re: [Freetel-codec2] freedv-gui Windows development versions

2019-07-26 Thread gerhard
Hello David, 

Thank you for the latest Windows-version. 

I have tested it on a I5-3317 PC, which is also running my SDR software
and other things. 

First try was with fine modulation over VACs to the SDR TRX in mode
1600, as usual. But when I switched to mode2020 the modulation (output
of FreeDV) got chopy. 

CPU only shows a load of 66 - 75 % in the peaks, but when I switched off
any other software and only had FreeDV running, the output was fine. 

I tested in cosed loop using a cable between PC Mic and headphone. 

One strange thing is, that there is audio in mode1600, but not in
mode2020. 

Then came into my mind, that I had seen this also in the latest LINUX
version. In closed loop there is audio on mode1600, but not in 2020. 

The version I tested before was brad2020 and there is audio in closed
loop in both versions. 

I think my Win PC is to slow for mode2020 in combination with other
software running. It is better to get an own PC just for FreeDV
mode2020, either in Windows or Linux (maybe with remote desktop). 

On the Linux PC I had the problem with PTT not working on a USBCOM
dongle. I read that it could be the reason of missing rights for the
COM. But I don't knwo how to fix that. 

If you want me something else to try, let me know. 

73's 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 26.07.2019 02:15, schrieb David Rowe:

> There's been a lot of work down to Codec 2 and FreeDV this year.  This
> is mostly done on Linux, with occasional Windows releases.
> 
> Thanks to Danilo and Richard, I'm setting up some automation to make it
> easier to build bleeding edge Windows versions of freedv-gui.  If you
> are interested in trying the latest builds of freedv-gui:
> 
> http://rowetel.com/downloads/freedv/
> 
> The file names include a date stamp and Git hash so we can trace the build.
> 
> This is bleeding edge code, and I can't guarantee I have tested the
> Windows versions myself - I have enough to do.  However I would
> appreciate if other would like to use and test this code, and work with
> me to fix any bugs.
> 
> If you find a bug, and will work with me to test fixes to that bug, then
> please contact me. For many issues, I am likely to ask you for an
> off-air sample so I can reproduce the problem.
> 
> The file I popped up today (7cd03db) will hopefully contain:
> 
> 1) Beta version of 2020
> 2) Latest OFDM modem sync/acquisition improvements, e.g. better HF
> channel performance and can handle +/- 60Hz frequency offset.
> 3) FreeDV 700C bug fixes
> 
> The freedv-gui user manual is here:
> 
> https://github.com/drowe67/freedv-gui/blob/master/USER_MANUAL.md
> 
> I haven't hooked up up the new Codec 2 700C equaliser
> (http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6860) yet.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> On 25/07/19 05:33, David Rowe wrote: Hi,
> 
> Has anyone using the SM1000 managed to get into the UI menu?  Had a
> comment on my blog here:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6835#comment-81036
> 
> I haven't tested all the menus myself.
> 
> Thanks,
> David
> 
> On 22/07/19 03:49, Steve wrote: ...And can this system run on GSM ? 
> This system is incompatible with GSM. Look through the IEEE stuff for
> modems that were tried the last 10 years.
> 
> Example: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7391285
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Es'hail2

2019-07-20 Thread gerhard
Hi David, 

Last weeks I have been busy constructing my 250W DATV 13cm PA, so I
didn't have time for FreeDV. Just made the update on the SM-1000, but
without testing. Will hook up my smaler PA for the satellite again and
see if I can use the SM-1000. 

OK, I understand, that if I make a new download from git and make a new
build_install, then the new code should be working. Will try this Sunday
evening. 

By the way: I think my acount on freetel-codec2 is with an older eMail
adress. Could you please delete this and change to my adress I am using
now? 

Regards 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 20.07.2019 22:14, schrieb David Rowe:

> Hi Gerhard,
> 
>> linearity. I also tested mode2020 over satelite, but just with RX over
>> Websdr as I didn't meet an other station. Mode2020 is quite difficult to
>> tune in
> 
> We've recently done some work in that area for 700D and 2020 (which use
> the same modem).  They will now sync at +/-60 Hz, similar to the range
> of FreeDV 1600.
> 
> This code was merged recently into the codec2 repository, so not part of
> any freedv-gui windows release yet. But if freedv-gui is built from
> source it will use the latest codec2 version which includes these changes.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Es'hail2

2019-07-20 Thread gerhard
Hi Helmuth, 

I allready had a few contacts in FreeDV over QO-100, all in mode 1600.
It worked very well, after I optimized the drive to get better
linearity. I also tested mode2020 over satelite, but just with RX over
Websdr as I didn't meet an other station. Mode2020 is quite difficult to
tune in and the stability over satellite is a key question. I also have
seen, that LNBs having a littel Jitter will have problems to get the
full SNR. Stabilisation with SDR-console didn't help. I am changing my
amplifier on 13cm here at the moment, but afterwords I would like to
make tests. 

73's 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 20.07.2019 14:42, schrieb Helmut Oeller:

> Hi,
> 
> is anybody interested in freeDV tests via satellite QO-100. If yes, please
> drop an email for a sked.
> 
> 73, Helmut, DC6NY
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] sm1000 and FreeDV 700D

2019-07-16 Thread gerhard
Hi Walter, 

Yes, I did hold the PTT button down while turning on. I get the sign,
that a USB device is present, but it could not be recognized an
therefore no driver associated. When I start DfuSeDemo there is no
device. When I check hardware I see a UDB device without driver. If I do
not press PTT when switching on, there is nothing. 

Btw, do you have allready mode2020 running? 

73's 

Gerhard

Am 16.07.2019 17:00, schrieb walt...@k5wh.net:

> Gerhard, 
> 
> Did you hold the PTT button in while turning the sm1000 on? 
> 
> There are no drivers to be loaded. As it should just come right up once you 
> power it on in the DFU mode. 
> 
> Walter/K5WH 
> 
> FROM: gerh...@oe3gbb.eu  
> SENT: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 7:53 AM
> TO: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
> SUBJECT: Re: [Freetel-codec2] sm1000 and FreeDV 700D 
> 
> Hi David, 
> 
> Great work! 
> But I cannot connect the SM1000 to my Win7 PC as the correct USB device is 
> not detected and no driver loaded. Also automatic search for a driver doesn't 
> work. Which driver is has to be used? 
> 
> 73's 
> 
> Gerhard OE3GBB
> 
> Am 15.07.2019 23:41, schrieb David Rowe: 
> 
> Further to the below, the SM1000 page has been updated:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/sm1000.html
> 
> and a new manual:
> 
> https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/blob/master/stm32/doc/sm1000_manual.md
> 
> Includes details of how to upgrade to the V2 firmware that includes
> FreeDV 700D.
> 
> - David
> 
> On 09/07/19 07:08, David Rowe wrote: 
> 
> For some time now, a group of us, in particular Don, (W7DMR) have been
> working on a 700D port to the SM1000:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6725
> 
> I've been working on the finishing touches, integrating the 700D mode
> with Stuart's (VK4MSL) fine menu system. I now have the SM1000 running
> 700D (and 1600 and analog modes) on my bench, decoding recordings of
> off-air samples.  Works well and is stable.  Tx works as well.
> 
> Still some polishing to do, but the current code is here:
> 
> https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/pull/42
> 
> -/-
> 
> We now have around 50 automated tests in the codec 2 repo, covering x86
> and the stm32 port.  There's also been some improvements to 700D sync
> (+/- 60Hz, more robust and faster on fading channels).
> 
> Cheers,
> David
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] sm1000 and FreeDV 700D

2019-07-16 Thread gerhard
Finally, 

using the LINUX procedure I managed to load the new image. 

No going to test on HF and satellite. 

73's 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 16.07.2019 17:00, schrieb walt...@k5wh.net:

> Gerhard, 
> 
> Did you hold the PTT button in while turning the sm1000 on? 
> 
> There are no drivers to be loaded. As it should just come right up once you 
> power it on in the DFU mode. 
> 
> Walter/K5WH 
> 
> FROM: gerh...@oe3gbb.eu  
> SENT: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 7:53 AM
> TO: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
> SUBJECT: Re: [Freetel-codec2] sm1000 and FreeDV 700D 
> 
> Hi David, 
> 
> Great work! 
> But I cannot connect the SM1000 to my Win7 PC as the correct USB device is 
> not detected and no driver loaded. Also automatic search for a driver doesn't 
> work. Which driver is has to be used? 
> 
> 73's 
> 
> Gerhard OE3GBB
> 
> Am 15.07.2019 23:41, schrieb David Rowe: 
> 
> Further to the below, the SM1000 page has been updated:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/sm1000.html
> 
> and a new manual:
> 
> https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/blob/master/stm32/doc/sm1000_manual.md
> 
> Includes details of how to upgrade to the V2 firmware that includes
> FreeDV 700D.
> 
> - David
> 
> On 09/07/19 07:08, David Rowe wrote: 
> 
> For some time now, a group of us, in particular Don, (W7DMR) have been
> working on a 700D port to the SM1000:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6725
> 
> I've been working on the finishing touches, integrating the 700D mode
> with Stuart's (VK4MSL) fine menu system. I now have the SM1000 running
> 700D (and 1600 and analog modes) on my bench, decoding recordings of
> off-air samples.  Works well and is stable.  Tx works as well.
> 
> Still some polishing to do, but the current code is here:
> 
> https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/pull/42
> 
> -/-
> 
> We now have around 50 automated tests in the codec 2 repo, covering x86
> and the stm32 port.  There's also been some improvements to 700D sync
> (+/- 60Hz, more robust and faster on fading channels).
> 
> Cheers,
> David
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] sm1000 and FreeDV 700D

2019-07-16 Thread gerhard
Hi David, 

Great work! 
But I cannot connect the SM1000 to my Win7 PC as the correct USB device
is not detected and no driver loaded. Also automatic search for a driver
doesn't work. Which driver is has to be used? 

73's 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 15.07.2019 23:41, schrieb David Rowe:

> Further to the below, the SM1000 page has been updated:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/sm1000.html
> 
> and a new manual:
> 
> https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/blob/master/stm32/doc/sm1000_manual.md
> 
> Includes details of how to upgrade to the V2 firmware that includes
> FreeDV 700D.
> 
> - David
> 
> On 09/07/19 07:08, David Rowe wrote: 
> 
>> For some time now, a group of us, in particular Don, (W7DMR) have been
>> working on a 700D port to the SM1000:
>> 
>> http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6725
>> 
>> I've been working on the finishing touches, integrating the 700D mode
>> with Stuart's (VK4MSL) fine menu system. I now have the SM1000 running
>> 700D (and 1600 and analog modes) on my bench, decoding recordings of
>> off-air samples.  Works well and is stable.  Tx works as well.
>> 
>> Still some polishing to do, but the current code is here:
>> 
>> https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/pull/42
>> 
>> -/-
>> 
>> We now have around 50 automated tests in the codec 2 repo, covering x86
>> and the stm32 port.  There's also been some improvements to 700D sync
>> (+/- 60Hz, more robust and faster on fading channels).
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> David
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Compiling on the aarch64 processors, LPCNet issues

2019-06-26 Thread gerhard
Hello all, 

I do have now a Jetson Nano board for testing DATV H.265. Does anybody
know if this would be sufficent also for FreeDV mode 2020? 

73's 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 26.06.2019 08:16, schrieb Al Beard:

> Thanks Glen for the update, 
> 
> Odroid N2 
> SOFTWARE SUPPORT LINUX 
> Two Ubuntu 18.04 LTS images are available with Kernel version 4.9.162 LTS as 
> of today. This kernel version will be officially supported until Jan, 2023. 
> 
> The mainline Linux kernel is at 5.0.9 and this is running NOW on my lowly 
> Banana Pi M2 Berry boards. 
> 
> Linux berry2 5.0.9-301.fc30.armv7hl 
> 
> The Odroid N2 board price is well within my "budget". 
> 
> In the end, all I want is a portable, low power box to run FreeDV in 2020 and 
> any subsequently developed modes. 
> 
> Digital Repeaters very much in my mind. 
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW 
> 
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:23:01 +1000, glen english wrote 
>> Alan 
>> 
>> I have a couple of  RK3399s boards...if you are looking for some... 
>> using them on a big project- they are fast. 
>> 
>> they're all FireFly boards 
>> 
>> HOWEVER 
>> 
>> starting now, the RK3399 is old hat, I think it is the wrong path 
>> for a new project. 
>> 
>> suggest the new Odroid N2 with the new AMlogic  with quad A73s (and 
>> dual A53) 
>> 
>> I can tell you, it beats the hell out of the RK3399 . it wipes the 
>> floor and has its way with it. 
>> 
>> https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram/ 
>> 
>> you can get a cheaper, smaller RAM version, also. 
>> 
>> -glen 
>> 
>> On 26/06/2019 3:14 PM, Al Beard wrote: 
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> The aarch64 *puma-RK3399* board, I emailed and asked: 
>>> 
>>> I would like: 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 2020 compiled on Armbian on Banana Pi M2 Berry

2019-05-26 Thread gerhard
Hi Alan, 

Tnx for instructions. I will try that today. 

73's 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 27.05.2019 04:01, schrieb Al Beard:

> HI GERHARD, 
> 
> VIRTUAL AUDIO CABLE ...  ON LINUX. 
> 
> OH THE WINDOZE WORLD . VAC IS A WINDOZE TERM. 
> 
> IT IS THE "LOOPBACK" DEVICE, PART OF THE ALSA SYSTEM SINCE DAY 1. 
> 
> THOUGH, NEVER SETUP ON "OUT OF THE BOX" SYSTEMS. 
> 
> ADD A FILE TO /ETC/MODPROBE.D/ "SND-ALOOP.CONF" 
> WITH CONTENTS "SND-ALOOP" 
> 
> AND REBOOT (THE EASIEST WAY). 
> 
> WHEN BOOTED UP AGAIN CHECK FOR IT LOADING, DO: 
> 
> CAT /PROC/ASOUND/CARDS 
> 
> IT WILL GIVE YOU 32 CHANNELS OF "LOOPBACK". 
> 
> YOU ARE RIGHT THOUGH, THE LINUX SOUND SYSTEM IS HARD TO GET ONE'S HEAD 
> AROUND. 
> 
> WITH THE KERNEL LEVEL DRIVERS (ALSA). 
> THEN THE "USER LEVEL" PULSEAUDIO WHICH BY DEFAULT, "CLAIMS" ALL THE DEVICES. 
> 
> THE YOUR APPLICATION CAN EITHER GET A LIST OF DEVICES AVAILABLE FROM EITHER 
> OF PULSE 
> OR ALSA. 
> 
> IN SHORT, TRICKY. 
> 
> AND, JUST TO ANNOY ME, THE "SND-ALOOP" KERNEL DRIVER IS NOT AVAILABLE IN 
> ARMBIAN. 
> 
> ALAN VK2ZIW 
> 
> ON SUN, 26 MAY 2019 15:09:17 +0200, GERHARD WROTE 
>> Hi Alan, 
>> Great to hear that mode2020 is running on a Banana Pi! 
>> I was able to install on Ubuntu 18.04 on a I5-8350. Hardware was just for 
>> EUR 350,- direct from China. 
>> Made some tests in mode 2020 with WebSDRs and on QO-100 satellite. 
>> I am still having problems with correct tuning. Also VAC is not working on 
>> LINUX, so I had to make analog connections - quite noisy. 
>> Do you have any information what to use for VAC unter LINUX? I have been 
>> trying a virtual sink on pulsaudio, but it didn't work correctly as I didn't 
>> see the audio device in FreeDV. 
>> Any other methode to use virtual audio cable on Ubuntu? 
>> regards 
>> Gerhard OE3GBB 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 26.05.2019 13:59, schrieb Al Beard: 
>> Well, 
>> 
>> After a bit of "hacking" removing the "impossible instructions" trying 
>> to determine is this system (not Intel or AMD) has AVX/AVX2 in the 
>> FreeDV GUI Ver 1.4, it actually runs and doesn't crash in 2020 mode. 
>> 
>> At this point, I have what looks like a working FreeDV 2020 app. 
>> 
>> No success on Fedora 29 on an i3 8100 or Ubuntu 18.04 on a current Pentium 
>> bought last week. H110 motherboard, bought for this job!! 
>> 
>> Both crash often and always when [Stop] is pressed. 
>> 
>> CPU load on the Berry, running a remote X session (ssh -Y user@host ) 
>> in 2020 mode, no audio from a real radio yet. 
>> With Waterfall: 60% of one CPU core 
>> With Spectrum:  30% or one CPU core 
>> 
>> In short, light load. 
>> 
>> Alan VK2ZIW 
>> 
>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 15:28:00 +1000, Al Beard wrote Hi all, 
>> 
>> Can somebody compile this up and test please? 
>> 
>> You will need "rtaudio" package installed 
>> 
>> http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~gary/rtaudio/ 
>> 
>> And of course, the Codec2 2020 library with LPCnet. 
>> 
>> Then just a Linux PC with a stereo audio interface and speaker. 
>> 
>> Do a Tx in 700D mode and note the audio. 
>> Then try 2020 mode. 
>> 
>> All I get is blurt, silence, blurt, silence etc.. 
>> 
>> I want this app working for a portable setup ie. no PC or laptop. 
>> A Pi. 
>> 
>> Alan VK2ZIW 
>> 
>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 12:48:01 +1000, Al Beard wrote Hi all, 
>> 
>> Not so fast... 
>> 
>> On this Asus H110M-A system with a Pentium G4560 @ 3.50GHz 
>> we only have USB3 ports: 
>> 
>> 3  [S3  ]: USB-Audio - Sound Blaster Play! 3 
>> 
>> The audio from "fdvcore" is "bitsy", not the nice smooth 
>> audio when the same USB dongle is on the Armbian system (Banana Pi 
>> M2 Berry) 
>> 
>> FreeDV 2020 GUI on Armbian 
>> == 
>> 
>> Though the "cmake" system searches for AVX/AVX2 or Neon, 
>> when doing "make" impossible instructions (for the x86_64 CPU) 
>> can't be assembled in fdmdv2_main.cpp as I recall. 
>> Git: git rev-list --count HEAD 
>> 1922 
>> 
>> Somebody has got to give it a go 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 2020 compiled on Armbian on Banana Pi M2 Berry

2019-05-26 Thread gerhard
Hi Alan, 

Great to hear that mode2020 is running on a Banana Pi! 

I was able to install on Ubuntu 18.04 on a I5-8350. Hardware was just
for EUR 350,- direct from China. 

Made some tests in mode 2020 with WebSDRs and on QO-100 satellite. 

I am still having problems with correct tuning. Also VAC is not working
on LINUX, so I had to make analog connections - quite noisy. 

Do you have any information what to use for VAC unter LINUX? I have been
trying a virtual sink on pulsaudio, but it didn't work correctly as I
didn't see the audio device in FreeDV. 

Any other methode to use virtual audio cable on Ubuntu? 

regards 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 26.05.2019 13:59, schrieb Al Beard:

> Well,
> 
> After a bit of "hacking" removing the "impossible instructions" trying
> to determine is this system (not Intel or AMD) has AVX/AVX2 in the
> FreeDV GUI Ver 1.4, it actually runs and doesn't crash in 2020 mode.
> 
> At this point, I have what looks like a working FreeDV 2020 app.
> 
> No success on Fedora 29 on an i3 8100 or Ubuntu 18.04 on a current Pentium
> bought last week. H110 motherboard, bought for this job!!
> 
> Both crash often and always when [Stop] is pressed.
> 
> CPU load on the Berry, running a remote X session (ssh -Y user@host )
> in 2020 mode, no audio from a real radio yet.
> With Waterfall: 60% of one CPU core
> With Spectrum:  30% or one CPU core
> 
> In short, light load.
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 15:28:00 +1000, Al Beard wrote Hi all,
> 
> Can somebody compile this up and test please?
> 
> You will need "rtaudio" package installed
> 
> http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~gary/rtaudio/
> 
> And of course, the Codec2 2020 library with LPCnet.
> 
> Then just a Linux PC with a stereo audio interface and speaker.
> 
> Do a Tx in 700D mode and note the audio.
> Then try 2020 mode.
> 
> All I get is blurt, silence, blurt, silence etc..
> 
> I want this app working for a portable setup ie. no PC or laptop.
> A Pi.
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 12:48:01 +1000, Al Beard wrote Hi all,
> 
> Not so fast...
> 
> On this Asus H110M-A system with a Pentium G4560 @ 3.50GHz
> we only have USB3 ports:
> 
> 3  [S3 ]: USB-Audio - Sound Blaster Play! 3
> 
> The audio from "fdvcore" is "bitsy", not the nice smooth
> audio when the same USB dongle is on the Armbian system (Banana Pi 
> M2 Berry)
> 
> FreeDV 2020 GUI on Armbian
> ==
> 
> Though the "cmake" system searches for AVX/AVX2 or Neon,
> when doing "make" impossible instructions (for the x86_64 CPU)
> can't be assembled in fdmdv2_main.cpp as I recall.
> Git: git rev-list --count HEAD
> 1922
> 
> Somebody has got to give it a go
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Chat, a group on AHRDF.net, just for FreeDV

2019-05-26 Thread gerhard
Walter, 

one disadvantage with qso.freedv.org is, that you don't see the messages
when you are not online. I also missed your last message when I updated
the page last time after beeing absent from the station. 

I also have not been able to use the site qso.freedv.org for some month
now. But I resolved the problem: This site is using a closed amateur
radio IP adress in the 44.0.0.0 range in the public internet. So, as I
had set my router do route all 44.0.0.0 adresses to my HAMNET link on 5
GHz, it could not be found there. I don't know, why this page is using
this private ip adress in the public internet. But with a special route
it works now. 

regards 

Gerhard

Am 26.05.2019 00:56, schrieb walt...@k5wh.net:

> Alan,
> 
> Also don't forget there is a chat site already available being used today,
> at http://qso.freedv.org  that we currently use for letting people know what
> frequency we're on, as well as real time chatting back and forth for those
> needing any assistance.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Walter/K5WH
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Al Beard  
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 4:02 PM
> To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Freetel-codec2] Chat, a group on AHRDF.net, just for FreeDV
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Can I suggest we use Doug's AHRDF chat site for coordination of FreeDV
> on-air testing.
> 
> As far as I can see, all the VK and ZL chat activity for VHF and up has
> moved to www.vkspotter.com [1] so it is unused.
> 
> I have asked both ON4KST and Hil VK2AZ for a Low Bitrate Digital Voice chat
> group. No positive responses as yet.
> 
> So, what about we use AHRDF NOW.
> 
> www.ahrdf.net/chat/ [2]
> 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 2020

2019-05-14 Thread gerhard
Hi, yes, I know about the main focus of mode 2020. I just want to
promote this mode also for satellite, as it really will be a high
quality audio mode and other DV modes are not allowed there because of
the bandwith limit of 2700 Hz. 

More tests will follow. But the problem not is Doppler shift, because
QO-100 a stationary satellite over Africa with very slow drift around a
fixed point.
The problem rather is the thermal drift and jitter in local oszillators
used for mixing microwave to "normal " frequencies. 

Those mixers operate with fundamental crystals at around 25 to 40 MHz
and so each drift or jitter is multiplied by a hugh figure.
But this is not a problem only for DV, just for every digital mode.
LNBs on 10 GHz are therefore stabilized by OCXOs or GPSDO, and same has
to be done on the TX side, although it is not as difficult as it is only
2,4 GHz. I have worked several stations in G, DL and PA in mode 1600
using the LimeSDR, only having a TCXO. Using other hardware (LimeSDR
mini or Adalm Pluto on TX side or LNB with PLL or even TCXO on RX side)
I have recognized, that Jitter of LO is quite a problem. Jitter could be
around 20-50 Hz and that is makeing narrow band decoding impossible. 

Anyway, it is a very interesting an new field to investigate. 

Regards 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 14.05.2019 21:36, schrieb David Rowe:

> Hi Gerhard,
> 
> Well done :-)  The first 2020 signals in Europe (and space)!
> 
> 2020 is designed for HF channels with SNRs > 10dB with slow fading, the
> sort of channel where SSB is an easy copy.  So it won't go as low as
> 700D.  On non-fading channels (like a satellite or UHF line of site) it
> will go down to 3dB SNR with no errors.
> 
> The main focus of this project is the new, Neural Net codec.
> 
> The demodulator in 2020, like 700D, has a rather narrow frequency offset
> acquisition range of +/- 20Hz. As you have found, will make getting sync
> on a microwave or satellite channel difficult.
> 
> While it can track changing frequency offsets, it might not be able to
> track something as fast as satellite Doppler.
> 
> -/-
> 
> This week I've fixed some problems with the Windows build, so will test
> that this weekend and take a look at the sync bug next.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> On 14/05/19 22:07, gerh...@oe3gbb.eu wrote: 
> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> Big success!
>> 
>> Freedv-gui-brad-2020 is running on Ubunti 18.04 on my new I5-8xxx. I am
>> having SNR 20 in mode 2020 in closed loop and on 20m to the websdr in PA
>> and G above S7 I got full decoding. Just QSB below S7 is kind of a
>> problem. Also tuning is not as easy as in the other modes. So I first
>> had to tune to mode 1600 and than switch to 2020. The audio was
>> connected by simple cables between the Linux and the PC running HPSDR.
>> 
>> Made also a first try for satellite work:
>> 
>> First I was using a LimeSDR-USB for transmitting on 2,4 GHz using
>> SDR-Console. I recognized a problem in the transmission chain as there
>> were interuptions in the audio in both modes 1600 and 2020. Never had
>> that before, but changed recently to the new Version 3.0.9 of
>> SDR-Console. Have to check again with earlier version.
>> 
>> I than changed to DATV-Express hardware and software for SSB. No
>> dropouts, good decoding on 2,4 GHz in mode 1600, but very difficult to
>> get the right tuning in mode 2020. But got SNR 16 in closed RF-loop
>> within the shack. I think at that frequencies the signal jitter and
>> thermal drift is quite serious. Will go on with TX to the satellite and
>> receive by WEBSDR with GPSDO control.
>> 
>> First part of tests over satellite no finished. DATV-Express-Card is
>> drifting to much and with LimeSDR I burned my preamplifier. So I fired
>> up my 70cm to 13cm converters. First one was from DX-patrol. This one is
>> also drifting too much and would need a change in hardware with external
>> reference. The other one is from SG-Labs. His one is quite stable, just
>> some jitter is to hear in CW. This one is having the possiblility for
>> having an external reference. Will now hook up the audio from freedv to
>> the FT-897 and go on with my tests.
>> 
>> I think it would be helpfull to have pilot tones in mode 2020, same as
>> in mode 1600, to scope with those unstabilities on microwave. A few
>> Hertz more in bandwith would not be any problem at this frequencies.
>> 
>> Audio quality was PERFECT!!
>> 
>> Thank you for your work. If I can help with further test, please let me
>> know. I am ready for skeds on shortwave now.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Gerhard OE3GBB
>> 
>> Am 12.05.2019 13:10, schrieb David R

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 2020

2019-05-14 Thread gerhard
 

Hi David, 

Big success! 

Freedv-gui-brad-2020 is running on Ubunti 18.04 on my new I5-8xxx. I am
having SNR 20 in mode 2020 in closed loop and on 20m to the websdr in PA
and G above S7 I got full decoding. Just QSB below S7 is kind of a
problem. Also tuning is not as easy as in the other modes. So I first
had to tune to mode 1600 and than switch to 2020. The audio was
connected by simple cables between the Linux and the PC running HPSDR. 

Made also a first try for satellite work: 

First I was using a LimeSDR-USB for transmitting on 2,4 GHz using
SDR-Console. I recognized a problem in the transmission chain as there
were interuptions in the audio in both modes 1600 and 2020. Never had
that before, but changed recently to the new Version 3.0.9 of
SDR-Console. Have to check again with earlier version. 

I than changed to DATV-Express hardware and software for SSB. No
dropouts, good decoding on 2,4 GHz in mode 1600, but very difficult to
get the right tuning in mode 2020. But got SNR 16 in closed RF-loop
within the shack. I think at that frequencies the signal jitter and
thermal drift is quite serious. Will go on with TX to the satellite and
receive by WEBSDR with GPSDO control. 

First part of tests over satellite no finished. DATV-Express-Card is
drifting to much and with LimeSDR I burned my preamplifier. So I fired
up my 70cm to 13cm converters. First one was from DX-patrol. This one is
also drifting too much and would need a change in hardware with external
reference. The other one is from SG-Labs. His one is quite stable, just
some jitter is to hear in CW. This one is having the possiblility for
having an external reference. Will now hook up the audio from freedv to
the FT-897 and go on with my tests. 

I think it would be helpfull to have pilot tones in mode 2020, same as
in mode 1600, to scope with those unstabilities on microwave. A few
Hertz more in bandwith would not be any problem at this frequencies. 

Audio quality was PERFECT!! 

Thank you for your work. If I can help with further test, please let me
know. I am ready for skeds on shortwave now. 

Regards 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 12.05.2019 13:10, schrieb David Rowe:

> Hi Gerhard,
> 
> Those sorts of messages to the Linux console are quite normal, just some
> debug stuff the sound card library prints out.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> On 12/05/19 18:06, gerh...@oe3gbb.eu wrote: Hi David,
> 
> After installing freedv-gui-brad-2020 I wanted to configure a second
> sound card. But I get following message:
> 
> oe3gbb@oe3gbb:~/freedv-gui-brad-2020$ ./build_linux/src/freedv
> Server listening at 0.0.0.0:45116
> pos 1 1
> EXCHANGE_DATA_IN:
> g_nSoundCards: 2
> g_soundCard1InDeviceName: HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
> g_soundCard1OutDeviceName: HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
> g_soundCard1SampleRate: 44100
> g_soundCard2InDeviceName: Logitech USB Headset: Audio (hw:1,0)
> g_soundCard2OutDeviceName: Logitech USB Headset: Audio (hw:1,0)
> g_soundCard2SampleRate: 44100
> rxInAudioDeviceName: HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
> rxOutAudioDeviceName: Logitech USB Headset: Audio (hw:1,0)
> txInAudioDeviceName: Logitech USB Headset: Audio (hw:1,0)
> txOutAudioDeviceName: HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
> freedv_get_n_speech_samples(g_pfreedv): 2880
> freedv_get_speech_sample_rate(g_pfreedv): 16000
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2495:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2495:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
> ALSA lib pcm.c:2495:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
> ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
> ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
> ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
> ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel map
> fifoSize_ms: 440 infifo1/outfilo1: 19404 infifo2/outfilo2: 19404
> rxFifoSizeSamples: 3290
> 
> I tried with two different USB headsets, result both the same. These are
> relatively old. Could that be the reason?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gerhard OE3GBB
> 
> Am 12.05.2019 08:08, schrieb David Rowe:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> There's been steady progress on FreeDV 2020 lately:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6747
> 
> This weekend, a few of us around Adelaide had 2020 QSOs to get a feel
> for the "user factors".  There are a few bugs with sync and the Windows
> build left to work through.  Speech quality is very good.
> 
> In other news, a team of Hams have been working on the software
> engineering on Codec 2, in particular FreeDV 2020 and stm32:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6725
> 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 2020

2019-05-12 Thread gerhard
Hi David, 

After installing freedv-gui-brad-2020 I wanted to configure a second
sound card. But I get following message: 

oe3gbb@oe3gbb:~/freedv-gui-brad-2020$ ./build_linux/src/freedv
Server listening at 0.0.0.0:45116 
pos 1 1
EXCHANGE_DATA_IN:
g_nSoundCards: 2
g_soundCard1InDeviceName: HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
g_soundCard1OutDeviceName: HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
g_soundCard1SampleRate: 44100
g_soundCard2InDeviceName: Logitech USB Headset: Audio (hw:1,0)
g_soundCard2OutDeviceName: Logitech USB Headset: Audio (hw:1,0)
g_soundCard2SampleRate: 44100
rxInAudioDeviceName: HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
rxOutAudioDeviceName: Logitech USB Headset: Audio (hw:1,0)
txInAudioDeviceName: Logitech USB Headset: Audio (hw:1,0)
txOutAudioDeviceName: HDA Intel PCH: ALC892 Analog (hw:0,0)
freedv_get_n_speech_samples(g_pfreedv): 2880
freedv_get_speech_sample_rate(g_pfreedv): 16000
ALSA lib pcm.c:2495:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
ALSA lib pcm.c:2495:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM
cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2495:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel
map
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel
map
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel
map
ALSA lib pcm_route.c:867:(find_matching_chmap) Found no matching channel
map
fifoSize_ms: 440 infifo1/outfilo1: 19404 infifo2/outfilo2: 19404
rxFifoSizeSamples: 3290 

I tried with two different USB headsets, result both the same. These are
relatively old. Could that be the reason? 

Regards 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 12.05.2019 08:08, schrieb David Rowe:

> Hello,
> 
> There's been steady progress on FreeDV 2020 lately:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6747
> 
> This weekend, a few of us around Adelaide had 2020 QSOs to get a feel
> for the "user factors".  There are a few bugs with sync and the Windows
> build left to work through.  Speech quality is very good.
> 
> In other news, a team of Hams have been working on the software
> engineering on Codec 2, in particular FreeDV 2020 and stm32:
> 
> http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6725
> 
> Cheers,
> David
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Windows cross compile builds

2019-04-23 Thread gerhard
Hi Richard, 

I think the question rather is, what processors do we need to get real
time processing with some spare capacity for additional applications. 

I was trying to set up codec2 with LPCNet for Linux and was interrupted
to get a faster platform (i5-8th gen). 

But I really don't know the minimum requirements. 

Regards 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 23.04.2019 16:16, schrieb Richard Shaw:

> Ok, sorry for the multiple emails but as I think about it I keep coming up 
> with more questions. :) 
> 
> Are we taking advantage of the capabilities that AVX2 provide? Or should we 
> just standardize on AVX? 
> 
> Could we assume AVX on i686 and AVX2 on x86_64 systems? 
> 
> AVX gets us processors in the 2011 era and AVX2 2013 (intel) 2015 (AMD) but 
> it appears to only be definitely available in Core processors on Intel, not 
> necessarily Pentium or Celeron. 
> 
> Thanks, 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] prototype FreeDV 2020

2019-04-11 Thread gerhard
Hi David, 

After I upgraded to the latest distribution of Debian, I could install
Codec2 and run the test files. 

I also installed sox to get play command. 

When I tried to install LPC-net, I got several errors, starting with a
warning at nnet.c:49:2 Compyling without vectorization

and then when building liblpcnetfreedv.so: undefined reference to
'c2const_create' 

after that the building stopped. 

After all - not so bad for my limited Linux knowledge, I think. 

Regards 

Gerhard OE3GBB 

Am 11.04.2019 09:43, schrieb David Rowe:

> Hi Gerhard,
> 
> It's currently in Linux command line form, take a look at:
> 
> https://github.com/drowe67/codec2/tree/brad-2020
> 
> "FreeDV 2020 Support..." section
> 
> To make it run over a real radio you would need to pipe audio signals
> to/from a sound card (or SDR). It can handle a 10dB SNR slow fading
> channel or without fading (like a satellite channel) down to 4dB SNR.
> 
> Brad and I are progressing this branch (and the associated
> https://github.com/drowe67/freedv-gui) daily.
> 
> Feel free to email me if you get stuck.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> On 11/04/19 15:48, gerh...@oe3gbb.eu wrote: Hi David,
> 
> After good success with mode1600 over the QO-100 satellite I would be
> ready to test the 2020 mode.
> 
> I only have limited knowledge in LINUX. So what is the minimum
> requirement to set it up?
> Is there a module for GNU-Radio?
> 
> regards
> 
> Gerhard OE3GBB
> 
> Am 10.04.2019 23:41, schrieb David Rowe:
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> I have the FreeDV 2020 prototype (which uses LPCNet) running quite
> nicely in real time on my 10 year old laptop.  CPU load is about 35%,
> that's full duplex, and includes the modem, and LDPC FEC.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> On 11/04/19 06:05, Kevin Otte wrote: LPCNet is some pretty amazing stuff to 
> be sure. Unfortunately it's going
> to require an awful lot of CPU, at least at first.
> 
> Is there any interest in getting the Codec2 wideband
> [https://www.rowetel.com/?p=5711] implementation running so there's an
> option for less powerful processors?
> 
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Wideband

2019-04-11 Thread gerhard
Hi David, 

After good success with mode1600 over the QO-100 satellite I would be
ready to test the 2020 mode. 

I only have limited knowledge in LINUX. So what is the minimum
requirement to set it up?
Is there a module for GNU-Radio? 

regards 

Gerhard OE3GBB

Am 10.04.2019 23:41, schrieb David Rowe:

> Hi Kevin,
> 
> I have the FreeDV 2020 prototype (which uses LPCNet) running quite
> nicely in real time on my 10 year old laptop.  CPU load is about 35%,
> that's full duplex, and includes the modem, and LDPC FEC.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> On 11/04/19 06:05, Kevin Otte wrote: 
> 
>> LPCNet is some pretty amazing stuff to be sure. Unfortunately it's going
>> to require an awful lot of CPU, at least at first.
>> 
>> Is there any interest in getting the Codec2 wideband
>> [https://www.rowetel.com/?p=5711] implementation running so there's an
>> option for less powerful processors?
>> 
>> 73 de Kevin N8VNR
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests

2018-05-22 Thread gerhard
Hello David,

I have been testing the new 700D version on 20m (Windows), but only using 
Web-SDRs as there were no stations available at that times I was on air. 
I had problems with synchronisation (also at high SNR) and therefore the 
quality oft he 700D mode was not as good as in 1600 mode. Is this mode more 
sensitive for the correct frequency? It looks quite good in the waterfall and 
changing the center of reception didn't improve anything.
Hope to find a real station on air soon.
Regards
Gerhard OE3GBB  

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: David Rowe [mailto:da...@rowetel.com] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 10:15
An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison, on air tests

Hi Alan,

Yes finding FreeDV activity (especially in VK) can be a challenge, hopefully 
this will change as FreeDV becomes more competitive with SSB.

Hams tend to like Windows.  Here is a Windows build (all in one ZIP
file) from SVN:

   http://rowetel.com/downloads/freedv_1.3_svn3603.zip

There will be official Windows releases (with installers) in a few days, just 
waiting for some feedback from the test team.

There is also a QSO finder: http://qso.freedv.org/

Cheers,

David

On 15/05/18 17:17, Alan Beard wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been listening and transmitting on 7177KHz LSB but hear nobody.
> 14150 and 14153 both have interference here so I've occasionally tried 
> on 14236KHz but again nothing.
> 
> I've "asked" on VKLOGGER and AHRDF. It seems there's all but nobody 
> willing to compile the sourcecode and run it except Mark VK5QI and me.
>   http://ahrdf.net/ and http://www.vklogger.com/
> 
> Does this show, just how few hams have Linux expertise?
> 
> I have not switched on a Windoze box for months, no need.
> 
> Anyway, I'm looking forward to some on-air tests.
> 
> No 73 valves here, nearest here a 6BK4.
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 13:50:17 +0200, Helmut Oeller wrote
>> Hi Glen,
>>
>> very interesting paper! Thanks for sharing the link. Yes, I agree 
>> that a realible 'simulator' providing the real world of a HF channel 
>> would be very helpful to compare communication modes. Man-made noise 
>> caused by PLC or SMPS etc. is another challenge especially on HF 
>> bands. Before I'll stop my laudation for the 'old' SSB another 
>> example what advanced DSP algorithms can effect in bad man-made noise 
>> enviroment:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wt32pepaurnbvbq/W5WC_NB%2CSNB%2CNR2_OFF.mp3
>> ?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tubqmidw4bor265/W5WC_NB%2CSNB%2CNR2_ON.mp3?d
> l=0
>>
>> Hopefully nobody feels offended by my lanky posts, but after more 
>> than 50 years with activity on the commercial side of communications 
>> I think that I earned a ticket for my point of view.
>>
>> 73, Helmut, DC6NY
>>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: glen english <g...@cortexrf.com.au>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 01:42
>> An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] 700D vs SSB Comparison
>>
>> Hi David
>>
>> fair enough
>>
>> here is some good and reasonable recent work by one of your own.
>>
>>
> http://search.ror.unisa.edu.au/record/UNISA_ALMA11140739050001831/medi
> a/digita 
> l/open/9916110811201831/12140739040001831/13140739030001831/pdf
>>
>> Maybe build into freeDV some sort of recording to disk and FTP upload 
>> to codec2 server
>>
>> On 7/05/2018 9:02 AM, David Rowe wrote:
>>> The 700D waveform is designed for subset of those paths.  As part of 
>>> the testing I'd like to crowd source some samples of where it works 
>>> and were it doesn't.
>>>
>>> Long term - if the average SNR is there, a waveform can be designed 
>>> to pass DV over it.  Eventually.
>>>
>>> DV over HF is a tough problem, and every development consumes 1000's 
>>> of volunteer man-hours (mainly mine).  So I'm taking a tractable 
>>> path through the problem.
>>>
>>> Currently the focus is on low SNR HF channels.  I'll make 
>>> incremental improvements from there, e.g. rarer HF paths, higher 
>>> speech quality at higher SNRs etc.
>>>
>>> - David
>>>
>>> On 07/05/18 07:45, glen english wrote:
>>>> SSB sometimes wins because the brain picks up the slack. like with 
>>>> a
>>>> 0.5 second fade.
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion, for HF paths, to be broadly useful , voice DV modes 
>>>> need to pass an HF fading simulator, targeted at vertical incidence 
>>>> work, and bear in mind, that the c

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 1.2-devel windows testing packages

2017-02-12 Thread Gerhard Burian
Hi All,

 

You have to start the program with administrator rights.

 

Regards

Gerhard OE3GBB

 

Von: Michael Carey [mailto:michaelca...@internode.on.net] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. Februar 2017 21:39
An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 1.2-devel windows testing packages

 

Hi Richard,

I downloaded and installed the 64bit package on the Win7 64bit PC in my
office and observe the same thing as you.  

freedv.exe starts briefly and then stops, no indication on screen.

73

Michael.
VK5ZEA

On 12/02/2017 12:33 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:

David and I have attempted to test the packages as best we can on old
equipment or in a virtual machine with inconsistent results. 

 

I need a few brave souls to test the packages and report back any problems.

 

Highlights:

- FreeDV 1.2 / Codec2 0.6 test release

- Updated hamlib to 3.1

- Updated wxWidgets to 3.1.0

 

 

This time I also have 32bit AND 64bit packages available since I was able to
fix my build problem with hamlib/libusb. In my test of the 64bit version in
Windows 7 under VirtualBox the main screen would never appear so I could use
an independent verification of that issue.

 

Choose accordingly:

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34775202/freedv/FreeDV-1.2.0-devel-win32
.exe

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34775202/freedv/FreeDV-1.2.0-devel-win64
.exe

 

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 700C early release

2017-02-03 Thread Gerhard Burian
Hi David & Helmut,

I am using also "pure signal" with predestortion, achieving 60 dB IMD. The
panadapter of the ANAN-100D shows this high value also in 700C mode when
using a sharp TX filter, but when I look at the shoulders in an WEBSDR, it
only is around 30 dB. There is clearly a difference to 800XA and 1600 mode
as I cannot see any shoulders there at S9+ signal.
I am leaving for vacation in EA8 now, so I only can make additional tests
after February 13th :-).

73's
Gerhard

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Gesendet: Freitag, 03. Februar 2017 09:47
An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 700C early release

Hi David,

I don't believe that this mentioned noise plateau - approx. 32 dB below peak
-  of mode 700C inside the communication channel is caused by amps. Probably
its caused by the modem itself.

I run my amps with high efficient linearization due to predistortion -
currently a new advanced beta version - achieving 60 dB IMD! Moreover the
inside channel noise plateau is also independent of the drive level or amp
output.

73, Helmut, DC6NY




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Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2017 07:15
An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 700C early release

Hi Gerhard,

This actually dovetails neatly with Steve's PAPR work in the last post to
this list.

Unlike the 1600 and 800 modes, the COHPSK modulator used for 700C has some
clipping on the output to improve the PAPR.  In some PAs, this means you get
get a higher average power output.  In others, it may let the smoke out.

This amplitude limiting is a form of non linearity and is probably the cause
in the spectral regrowth at the edges of the spectrum that you are
observing.

Clipping can be disabled in the FreeDV GUI program Tool-Options menu.

Cheers,

David


On 03/02/17 16:26, Gerhard Burian wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> When I was testing the different modes with websdrs I recognized 
> higher sideband noise (shoulders) in 700C mode compared with 800XA and 
> 1600 mode
at
> the same settings on my ANAN-100D. I am using narrow filtering on TX 
> and pure signal. So I don't have an explanation for that.
>
> Regards
> Gerhard
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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> Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Jänner 2017 11:40
> An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 700C early release
>
> I been sending a few SSB/700C test signals of 800 - 1500 km paths on 
> 40M using a websdr to pick them up at the other end.  In marginal 
> conditions with SSB down in the noise I'm getting sync and audio through
on 700C.
> Not sure if I have the same average tx power though.
>
> Also had a 700C QSO with a guy interstate.  SSB very noisy but 6-8dB 
> SNR
on
> 700C.  Noise free but some issues with his audio and the modem loosing
sync
> every few seconds.
>
> Lot of frequency selective fading in both tests.
>
> Promising start
>
> - David
>
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 700C early release

2017-02-02 Thread Gerhard Burian
Hi David,

When I was testing the different modes with websdrs I recognized higher
sideband noise (shoulders) in 700C mode compared with 800XA and 1600 mode at
the same settings on my ANAN-100D. I am using narrow filtering on TX and
pure signal. So I don't have an explanation for that.

Regards
Gerhard 

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Jänner 2017 11:40
An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV 700C early release

I been sending a few SSB/700C test signals of 800 - 1500 km paths on 40M
using a websdr to pick them up at the other end.  In marginal conditions
with SSB down in the noise I'm getting sync and audio through on 700C. 
Not sure if I have the same average tx power though.

Also had a 700C QSO with a guy interstate.  SSB very noisy but 6-8dB SNR on
700C.  Noise free but some issues with his audio and the modem loosing sync
every few seconds.

Lot of frequency selective fading in both tests.

Promising start

- David


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Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV always USB or LSB below 10Mhz and USBabove?

2017-01-19 Thread Gerhard Burian
Hi All,

The new piHPSDR-Console for ANAN transceivers unfortunatly also has
implemented  FreeDV on all bands in USB. I have allready told them to
change.

Regards 
Gerhard

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USBabove?

FreeDV follows the SSB convention as has HF digital voice since day 1.  QRM
avoidance is aided (not necessarily avoided) when both modes are using the
same "sideband."

Flex is now aware of this and I am sure will make the change upon the next
update of FreeDV.  

Mel


-Original Message-
From: David Klippel - N2MHI [mailto:n2...@klippel.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 5:40 PM
To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV always USB or LSB below 10Mhz and USB
above?

Is FreeDV always USB like all digital modes or does it follow the guideline
of LSB below 10Mhz and USB above?

I use the FlexRadio SmartSDR waveform and have been working under that
assumption that they have implemented it correctly to only use USB. The USB
standard as I understand for digital modes in dependent of SSB guideline of
LSB below 10Mhz and USB above).


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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Please call our Dayton Hamvention station todayand this weekend

2016-05-23 Thread Gerhard Burian
Hello Bruce,

 

I tried 20m on Saturday afternoon and evening, and also on Sunday late 
afternoon.

DX Propagation was very bad due to sporadic E layers. Just could work W4BCX on 
Sunday evening, but with low signal.

Thanks for promoting FreeDV.

 

73’s

Gerhard OE3GBB

 

 

Von: Bruce Perens [mailto:br...@perens.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Mai 2016 12:56
An: digitalvo...@googlegroups.com; freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: [Freetel-codec2] Please call our Dayton Hamvention station todayand 
this weekend

 

Mel and Gerry are operating a remote station from Dayton Hamvention, with the 
transmitter in Tampa, Florida. It's on 14.236 MHz, UTC times today 1300 to 
2200, Saturday 1200 to 2100, Sunday 1200 to 1600. Please call the station so 
that the approximately 22,000 hams there can experience FreeDV.

 

Thanks

 

Bruce

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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Please call our Dayton Hamvention station todayand this weekend

2016-05-21 Thread Gerhard Burian
Hi Bruce,

 

thanks for the information. Will try to do so.

 

73’s

Gerhard OE3GBB

 

Von: Bruce Perens [mailto:br...@perens.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Mai 2016 12:56
An: digitalvo...@googlegroups.com; freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: [Freetel-codec2] Please call our Dayton Hamvention station todayand 
this weekend

 

Mel and Gerry are operating a remote station from Dayton Hamvention, with the 
transmitter in Tampa, Florida. It's on 14.236 MHz, UTC times today 1300 to 
2200, Saturday 1200 to 2100, Sunday 1200 to 1600. Please call the station so 
that the approximately 22,000 hams there can experience FreeDV.

 

Thanks

 

Bruce

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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Actual QSOs using freeDV

2013-09-19 Thread Gerhard Burian
Hello Kristoff,

My longest distance was to VK4.
I could decode the VK4 just partly (~ 50%) because of QSB.
Sorry I don’t have any BER-number.
Other QSOs with Central America (CO, YV,..), but I would have to look them
up in the log.


73's
Gerhard OE3GBB

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:krist...@skypro.be] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. September 2013 09:19
An: digitalvo...@googlegroups.com; freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: [Freetel-codec2] Actual QSOs using freeDV

Hi all,


I am still doing some factfinding for my talk on codec2/DV saterday at SFB
in Brussels.


What are the longest distances that have (successfully) been done with 
FreeDV over HF? (Just trying to get my facts correct).

Any information on BER during that QSO? How successfull where they?




73
kristoff - ON1ARF



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Re: [Freetel-codec2] Cross-compile to WIN32 from Linux- SUCCESS!

2013-05-18 Thread Gerhard Burian
Hi Richard,

Yes, it works fine on RX as I could not test it on TX yet.

Thanks

Gerhard OE3GBB

 

Von: Richard Shaw [mailto:hobbes1...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Mai 2013 18:10
An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Cross-compile to WIN32 from Linux- SUCCESS!

 

Ok, I went ahead and uploaded it. It would be great if someone could try it
out and verify it works.

 

http://files.freedv.org/FreeDV-0.96.1-win32.exe

 

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: [Freetel-codec2] 1500 bit/s release

2012-02-12 Thread Gerhard Burian
David,

great work - thanks!

Gerhard OE3GBB

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Von: David Rowe [mailto:da...@rowetel.com] 
Gesendet: Montag, 13. Februar 2012 02:56
An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: [Freetel-codec2] 1500 bit/s release

Hello List,

I am working on a 1400 bit/s release but thought this interim version at
1500 bit/s might be useful:

svn co -r 306
https://freetel.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/freetel/codec2-dev

Using c2sim:

./c2sim ../raw/hts1a.raw --1400 -o hts1a_1400_c2sim.raw

Or separate encoder/decoder:

./c2enc 1400 ../raw/hts1a.raw hts1a_1400.c2
./c2dec 1400 hts1a_1400.c2 hts1a_1400_c2dec.raw

Yeah I know it says 1400 in the file names and flags above but it's actually 
1500 at present, 60 bit/s per frame at 40ms frames.

While messing about with quantising LSP differences and VQ I discovered that a 
40ms update of LSPs actually sounds OK.  Better than I expected at least. I 
didn't believe it at first (normally 20ms updates are reqd in other codecs) so 
I completed a separate encoder/decoder version to make sure I wasn't fooling 
myself.  Then it occurred to me that a working 1500 bit/s version (separate 
encoder and decoder) might be useful to others.

Some samples attached.  

This version uses the original 36 bit scalar quantiser so should be easy to 
drop the bit rate using VQ if it works out that 40ms updates are really OK. 

Cheers,

David





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