[ft-devel] freetype.com

2010-02-23 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Stumbled upon freetype.com by accident.  Have people seen this before?
Interesting...

behdad


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Re: [ft-devel] freetype.com

2010-02-23 Thread Graham Asher

Despicable domain squatting and negative advertising. Shame on them.

Graham


Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

Stumbled upon freetype.com by accident.  Have people seen this before?
Interesting...

behdad


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[ft-devel] Patented bytecode interpretter and fallback to autohinter

2010-02-23 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi,

In Fedora rawhide I enabled the patented bytecode interpretter a while ago
since the patents expired.  I've received reports since that this has resulted
in degraded rendering of some fonts.

Apparently, from what I hear, with Medium hinting, the autohinter is not used
even if the font doesn't have any bytecode.

The desired behavior is to use the autohinter for any glyphs without bytecode
hints.

Please see:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=547532

Is there any way we can resolve this?  Otherwise I'd have to turn it back off
again.

Thanks,
behdad


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Re: [ft-devel] Patented bytecode interpretter and fallback to autohinter

2010-02-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 In Fedora rawhide I enabled the patented bytecode interpretter a
 while ago since the patents expired.  I've received reports since
 that this has resulted in degraded rendering of some fonts.
 
 Apparently, from what I hear, with Medium hinting, the autohinter is
 not used even if the font doesn't have any bytecode.

This is the right behaviour IMHO.  A TrueType font is expected to be
self-contained, this is, the rendering result should always be the
same, independent of the rasterizer.

 The desired behavior is to use the autohinter for any glyphs without
 bytecode hints.

Definitely not!  Either the whole font gets autohinted, or the
bytecode interpreter is used.  Mixing those two hinting strategies
doesn't give good results since the global hints are calculated
differently.

Basically, I think this is a FontConfig issue; all TrueType fonts
which need autohinting should be configured as such.

On the other hand I see the problem you have.  However, there is
currently no possibility (built into FreeType, I mean) to find out
whether a font has TrueType hints or not.  It's straightforward to add
such a function, and FontConfig might use it during the creation of
the cache.

What kind of interface would you like to have?  I can imagine that you
want to check the presence of a font's hinting instructions for a
given range of input codes (not that I would really like this, but...)


Werner


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Re: [ft-devel] freetype.com

2010-02-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 Stumbled upon freetype.com by accident.  Have people seen this
 before?  Interesting...

 Despicable domain squatting and negative advertising. Shame on them.

Indeed!  I've seen this the first time, and it seems that FreeType is
a threat to them, especially since their `iType' product has the same
target market: embedded devices.

I think we should react, but how?  Contacting them directly?  Telling
the slashdot.org people?  Any other ideas?


Werner


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Re: [ft-devel] freetype.com

2010-02-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG

   Excuse me ,I don't understand why we need tell the
   slashdot.org people?  

Well, there is no `need'.  Often, if a company gets bad press it is
willing to change the issue.  This was my idea.  I can't tell you
whether this is the right solution (probably not).  I simply don't
know yet how to proceed.  American and/or English companies differ
enormously compared to German and Austrian ones...


Werner


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Re: [ft-devel] freetype.com

2010-02-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG

   Excuse me ,I don't understand why we need tell the
   slashdot.org people?

Another reason for my first reaction (this is, to contact slashdot) is
the impudence of this negative advertisement.  Up to now I've never
seen such a thing, and it is probably worth to be seen by many people.
On the other hand, I don't know whether this is common in the cyber
world.


Werner


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