Re: [FRIAM] keyboard and hard drive recommendations wanted.

2019-04-12 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:32:15AM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> Thanks! After I tanked out harder than I thought I might yesterday, and 
> needing
> to wind down some was browsing reddit to see how do-able it is to fix either
> one: turns out not all that do able. Short of the long is that Das Keyboard,
> Apple Keyboards, and a new to me company called red dragon for mechanicals get
> really good praise, partially for just being a darn good keyboard, and
> partially because of being much more sensable for budgeting than others.
> I'll see if Amazon has Das Keyboards used.
> Re: SSD-Hard drives, and speed. I can see that! any sugestions for brands to
> look at? and what's your experience been with reliabliy? 


Hah - half way through writing this email, my finger accidently hit
the power button, which is helpfully positioned right next to the
delete key. One of the few design faults of my new laptop!

Anyway, after a bit of googling, I have found the configuration setting
to disable the power button (I only ever use it to hard power cycle
via the 10 second press any way, which still works).

So much more abbreviated response here: basically SATA interfaced SSDs
are not that much faster than hard drives, no more than 2x when
benchmarked, and making little practical difference to the performance
of the computer. M2 SSDs OTOH seem more worth it. I had a Patreon
Ignite 490GB job, which died just days before its 3 year warranty
period expired. Patreon did honour the warranty, and did replace it,
although it did involve sending the old SSD to Taiwan, so around a
month all up for the replacement to arrive. In the meantime, I bought
a Samsung 970 EVO, which is a faster technology called NVMe. So far so
good, although I only have about 4 months on the clock. My replacement
laptop which is only weeks old has a Western Digital Black NVMe SSD -
and so far so good.

Speaking of which, I swapped out the hard drive on my old laptop for a
second hand SSD about 6 months ago. It was a SATA based drive, which
had had a varied life under my care since mid-2014, but not a hard
life. About 2 months ago, the SSD started dropping offline after about
15-30 minutes of use. Since the latop was nearly 9 years old it was
time to upgrade. Not entirely sure if the SSD or the SATA subsystem of
the laptop is at fault. No data got harmed...

One final comment - avoid Btrfs like the plague. On the couple of
occasions I forgot and accepted the default option of Btrfs on a
machine with an SSD, the computer will work for a few hours (maybe
even days), then suddenly the load average goes up to 20, and the
computer becomes unresponsive. Some btrfs process is running, and it
never stops - the only way of recovering is via a hard power cycle.

Cheer



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Re: [FRIAM] keyboard and hard drive recommendations wanted.

2019-04-12 Thread Gillian Densmore
Thanks! After I tanked out harder than I thought I might yesterday, and
needing to wind down some was browsing reddit to see how do-able it is to
fix either one: turns out not all that do able. Short of the long is that
Das Keyboard, Apple Keyboards, and a new to me company called red dragon
for mechanicals get really good praise, partially for just being a darn
good keyboard, and partially because of being much more sensable for
budgeting than others.
I'll see if Amazon has Das Keyboards used.
Re: SSD-Hard drives, and speed. I can see that! any sugestions for brands
to look at? and what's your experience been with reliabliy?

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:45 AM Barry MacKichan <
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote:

> Late to the conversation, but here’s my 2 cents:
>
> The best keyboard I’ve used is the Das keyboard for the Mac. Mine has
> cherry brown switches; the cherry blue are a bit noisier. The aural
> feedback helps my typing. It has all the Mac keys I need, and also the
> Windows keys, a necessity since I use both OSes via virtual machines.
>
> They are expensive, but I spend a good bit of my life tapping at it.
>
> Again, solid state drives are more expensive, but few things come as close
> to making your computer seem brand new and twice as fast. The switch to SSD
> reminded me of the ’80s when every new processor generation doubled your
> speed.
>
> --Barry
>
> On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:30, Gary Schiltz wrote:
>
> I had a "Happy Hacking" keyboard when I last worked for a living, and
> loved it. The "light" version that I had doesn't have the Cherry switches,
> but it was still good for the price. As for hard drives, they are cheap as
> heck these days, and I have no real preference among the major brands (WD,
> Seagate, Hitachi).
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 7:08 PM Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> Alas my super nice keyboard from at least 2 years ago is showing age and
>> having been used pretty well. Mechanical Cherry Mx Green (blackwidow if
>> that makes a difference)   feels fantastic to type on. The key cap for
>> space is wearing, and I feels like the swich to it and vowles are loosing a
>> bit of spring.
>>
>> Any recomendations for a solid replacement? Loved a logitech I got as a
>> gift years ago, other than faulty "e" key it was also  fantastic and served
>> me very well.  Leentwards mechanicle because they feel fantastic. Not
>> ,must. full sized required.
>>
>> Hard drive:
>> Looking for hard-drive recomendations as well. I Ask because I ran FSCK
>> and the graphicle disk checker tool that came with ubuntu 19 (forget
>> thename) FSCK only said " have 50 bad sectors" while disks(?) cautioned
>> spin up and spin down are a little on the week side.  Not surprising as
>> it's a 4 year old hard drive that's been used pretty hard.  Also it's for a
>> desktop PC, regular internal hard-drive. Nothing fancy.
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] keyboard and hard drive recommendations wanted.

2019-04-12 Thread Gary Schiltz
In my experience upgrading laptops, double is an understatement. 5-10x
often.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:46 AM Barry MacKichan <
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote:

> Late to the conversation, but here’s my 2 cents:
>
> The best keyboard I’ve used is the Das keyboard for the Mac. Mine has
> cherry brown switches; the cherry blue are a bit noisier. The aural
> feedback helps my typing. It has all the Mac keys I need, and also the
> Windows keys, a necessity since I use both OSes via virtual machines.
>
> They are expensive, but I spend a good bit of my life tapping at it.
>
> Again, solid state drives are more expensive, but few things come as close
> to making your computer seem brand new and twice as fast. The switch to SSD
> reminded me of the ’80s when every new processor generation doubled your
> speed.
>
> --Barry
>
> On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:30, Gary Schiltz wrote:
>
> I had a "Happy Hacking" keyboard when I last worked for a living, and
> loved it. The "light" version that I had doesn't have the Cherry switches,
> but it was still good for the price. As for hard drives, they are cheap as
> heck these days, and I have no real preference among the major brands (WD,
> Seagate, Hitachi).
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 7:08 PM Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> Alas my super nice keyboard from at least 2 years ago is showing age and
>> having been used pretty well. Mechanical Cherry Mx Green (blackwidow if
>> that makes a difference)   feels fantastic to type on. The key cap for
>> space is wearing, and I feels like the swich to it and vowles are loosing a
>> bit of spring.
>>
>> Any recomendations for a solid replacement? Loved a logitech I got as a
>> gift years ago, other than faulty "e" key it was also  fantastic and served
>> me very well.  Leentwards mechanicle because they feel fantastic. Not
>> ,must. full sized required.
>>
>> Hard drive:
>> Looking for hard-drive recomendations as well. I Ask because I ran FSCK
>> and the graphicle disk checker tool that came with ubuntu 19 (forget
>> thename) FSCK only said " have 50 bad sectors" while disks(?) cautioned
>> spin up and spin down are a little on the week side.  Not surprising as
>> it's a 4 year old hard drive that's been used pretty hard.  Also it's for a
>> desktop PC, regular internal hard-drive. Nothing fancy.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> 
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Re: [FRIAM] Thorstein Veblen?

2019-04-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
Barry writes:

"I mention this only as another bit of evidence that the world is smaller than 
you think."

It's big but compresses remarkably well.   It matters whether we are counting 
classes or instances.

Marcus



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Re: [FRIAM] Thorstein Veblen?

2019-04-12 Thread Barry MacKichan

Personal notes, off topic.

Thorstein Veblen wrote Theory of the Leisure Class and, I believe, 
originated the phrase “conspicuous consumption”. For the 
mathematicians out there, Thorstein’s brother (I think. Considering 
the age of these recollections he might have been a cousin) was Oswald 
Veblen, one of the first mathematicians appointed a permanent member of 
the Institute for Advanced Study in the 1930s.


One of my roommates freshman year at Harvard was John Veblen, the great 
grandson of one of these. His father was a lawyer in Seattle. When I 
went to Microsoft, John was living in Seattle, and another of my 
freshman roommates was in the math department of the U. of Washington. 
The math roommate and his wife had become good friends with John’s 
parents (who were god-parents to their children) and my wife and I 
joined them for Thanksgiving dinners for several years and we joined 
their book club until we move to Bainbridge Island several years later.


I mention this only as another bit of evidence that the world is smaller 
than you think.


--Barry

On 11 Apr 2019, at 17:00, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:

I feel certain I've seen that name before, maybe in the citations for 
reports on the models of evolutionary economics I once worked on?  I 
don't know.  But now I *must* read a little deeper.


Tomgram: Ann Jones, Our Veblen Momen
https://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176550/

Of course, Veblen, who could build a house with his own hands, 
imagined a working world free of such predators. He envisioned an 
innovative industrial world in which the labor of producing goods 
would be performed by machines tended by technicians and engineers. 
In the advanced factories of his mind’s eye, there was no role, no 
place at all, for the predatory Business Man. Yet Veblen also knew 
that the natural-born predator of Gilded Age America was already 
creating a kind of scaffolding of financial transactions above and 
beyond the factory floor -- a lattice of loans, credits, 
capitalizations, and the like -- so that he could then take advantage 
of the “disruptions” of production caused by such encumbrances to 
seize yet more profits. In a pinch, the predator was, as Veblen saw 
it, always ready to go further, to throw a wrench into the works, to 
move into the role of outright “Saboteur.”





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Re: [FRIAM] keyboard and hard drive recommendations wanted.

2019-04-12 Thread Marcus Daniels
I have a Das keyboard too, one of those with no key labels.  ☺
Btw, the new Cascade Lake machines are out now and offer Optane memory modules. 
  I think this could be transformative in computational science -- open-ended 
persistent memory that is byte-addressable.

From: Friam  on behalf of Barry MacKichan 

Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Date: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 7:46 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] keyboard and hard drive recommendations wanted.


Late to the conversation, but here’s my 2 cents:

The best keyboard I’ve used is the Das keyboard for the Mac. Mine has cherry 
brown switches; the cherry blue are a bit noisier. The aural feedback helps my 
typing. It has all the Mac keys I need, and also the Windows keys, a necessity 
since I use both OSes via virtual machines.

They are expensive, but I spend a good bit of my life tapping at it.

Again, solid state drives are more expensive, but few things come as close to 
making your computer seem brand new and twice as fast. The switch to SSD 
reminded me of the ’80s when every new processor generation doubled your speed.

--Barry

On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:30, Gary Schiltz wrote:
I had a "Happy Hacking" keyboard when I last worked for a living, and loved it. 
The "light" version that I had doesn't have the Cherry switches, but it was 
still good for the price. As for hard drives, they are cheap as heck these 
days, and I have no real preference among the major brands (WD, Seagate, 
Hitachi).

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 7:08 PM Gillian Densmore 
mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Alas my super nice keyboard from at least 2 years ago is showing age and having 
been used pretty well. Mechanical Cherry Mx Green (blackwidow if that makes a 
difference)   feels fantastic to type on. The key cap for space is wearing, and 
I feels like the swich to it and vowles are loosing a bit of spring.

Any recomendations for a solid replacement? Loved a logitech I got as a gift 
years ago, other than faulty "e" key it was also  fantastic and served me very 
well.  Leentwards mechanicle because they feel fantastic. Not ,must. full sized 
required.

Hard drive:
Looking for hard-drive recomendations as well. I Ask because I ran FSCK  and 
the graphicle disk checker tool that came with ubuntu 19 (forget thename) FSCK 
only said " have 50 bad sectors" while disks(?) cautioned spin up and spin down 
are a little on the week side.  Not surprising as it's a 4 year old hard drive 
that's been used pretty hard.  Also it's for a desktop PC, regular internal 
hard-drive. Nothing fancy.
Thanks!


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Re: [FRIAM] keyboard and hard drive recommendations wanted.

2019-04-12 Thread Barry MacKichan

Late to the conversation, but here’s my 2 cents:

The best keyboard I’ve used is the Das keyboard for the Mac. Mine has 
cherry brown switches; the cherry blue are a bit noisier. The aural 
feedback helps my typing. It has all the Mac keys I need, and also the 
Windows keys, a necessity since I use both OSes via virtual machines.


They are expensive, but I spend a good bit of my life tapping at it.

Again, solid state drives are more expensive, but few things come as 
close to making your computer seem brand new and twice as fast. The 
switch to SSD reminded me of the ’80s when every new processor 
generation doubled your speed.


--Barry

On 9 Apr 2019, at 20:30, Gary Schiltz wrote:

I had a "Happy Hacking" keyboard when I last worked for a living, and 
loved
it. The "light" version that I had doesn't have the Cherry switches, 
but it
was still good for the price. As for hard drives, they are cheap as 
heck

these days, and I have no real preference among the major brands (WD,
Seagate, Hitachi).

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 7:08 PM Gillian Densmore 


wrote:

Alas my super nice keyboard from at least 2 years ago is showing age 
and
having been used pretty well. Mechanical Cherry Mx Green (blackwidow 
if
that makes a difference)   feels fantastic to type on. The key cap 
for
space is wearing, and I feels like the swich to it and vowles are 
loosing a

bit of spring.

Any recomendations for a solid replacement? Loved a logitech I got as 
a
gift years ago, other than faulty "e" key it was also  fantastic and 
served

me very well.  Leentwards mechanicle because they feel fantastic. Not
,must. full sized required.

Hard drive:
Looking for hard-drive recomendations as well. I Ask because I ran 
FSCK

and the graphicle disk checker tool that came with ubuntu 19 (forget
thename) FSCK only said " have 50 bad sectors" while disks(?) 
cautioned
spin up and spin down are a little on the week side.  Not surprising 
as
it's a 4 year old hard drive that's been used pretty hard.  Also it's 
for a

desktop PC, regular internal hard-drive. Nothing fancy.
Thanks!


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Re: [FRIAM] /Topic Latent in: Latent Topics was: enough sleep?

2019-04-12 Thread glen∈ℂ

On 4/11/19 2:38 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

I find this kind of evidence unsatisfactory.How people act as individuals 
or in groups says nothing about how an AI might function as individuals or in 
groups.   It's merely an inventory of flaws and idiosyncrasies of our species.


Well, of course the implications of the results in that paper are not generalizable across species, much less 
to AI or across planets.  But we don't have any evidence that identity or entitlement exist anywhere other 
than humans, either. What's more likely is that they are like consciousness, a symptom of deeper causes, 
where those deeper causes *are* shared with other species.  ... like fish who recognize themselves in 
mirrors. If cross-species mind-reading has any validity, then it seems reasonable that animals might also 
experience some sort of "in the moment" flow where their self-referencing executive 
"egos" wane.  And if that flow could be shown to help schools, packs, and gaggles "bond" 
in some sense, then that paper is a tiny bit of added validation, meaningless on its own.


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