Re: [FRIAM] The History of CTRL + ALT + DELETE | Mental Floss

2020-11-23 Thread Dean Gerber
 Tom--
Thanks Tom. That was a nostalgia trip. Could not live without it now either, 
the Windows version.
--Dean
On Monday, November 23, 2020, 02:20:36 PM MST, Tom Johnson 
 wrote:  
 
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Re: [FRIAM] "higher" education

2020-05-29 Thread Dean Gerber
 Thanks for the link Cody.  That was a fine talk.  Dean Gerber
On Friday, May 29, 2020, 12:44:05 PM MDT, cody dooderson 
 wrote:  
 
 Here is a nice talk to the graduates of Harvard 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1001=jSn_QW9FFiI=emb_logo.
 
Cody Smith

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM Gary Schiltz  
wrote:

I don't know if my attitudes have an objective basis, or if I am just envious 
of folks whose degrees are from Ivy League schools. My father had only a sixth 
grade education and my mother eighth grade, and Dad never earned over two 
dollars an hour, so an expensive University was out of the question. So I went 
to Kansas State University in the 1970s and early 1980s and got what I thought 
was an adequate education (BS in Biology and MS in Computer Science) spread out 
over nearly ten years. In-state tuition, no doubt subsidized by the State of 
Kansas, was between $500 and $1000 per semester. Working as a software 
engineer, my salary was always somewhere in the mid range, and I didn't mind. I 
think my career was more rewarding to me than if I had incurred huge debts at a 
more top-tier University in order to get higher paying jobs. I guess my point 
is that higher education could be a whole lot more affordable without throwing 
out the face-to-face model entirely.
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:08 AM Prof David West  wrote:

Scott Galloway (professor at  Stern School of business and supposed authority) 
on universities post COVID.

Fifty percent of the investment in prestige university education is for 
'certification' —  degree that signals your lifetime earnings. The Harvard 
brand is strong enough that students will accept an inferior educational 
experience. The fifty biggest university brands, Harvard, Stanford, etc, will 
partner with tech giants like Apple or Facebook to create a hybrid university, 
most others will hollow out and die like the large department store chains. 
Dorm life and in-person experience will be reserved for children of the 1%.

Pretty bleak and a commentary on previous FRIAM conversations about education 
and elite universities.

davew

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Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-21 Thread Dean Gerber
 Glen--
Thank you for the link to the video.  Harrowing to watch, but a greatly needed 
dose of unvarnished reality.  Tables of numbers, then graphs of the tables, 
then statistical analysis of the data are poor a story.  Closer to home are 
those poor souls  in the video, recovered but damaged. Even closer to home, the 
Covid-19 explosion on our reservations and among our tribes.
--Dean
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 02:28:05 PM MDT, uǝlƃ ☣  
wrote:  
 
 
A Waking Nightmare for COVID-19 Patients
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_AKe07J7tE

Awhile back my mom passed out and fell because of a "heart block", which is an 
electrical problem. During her stay in critical care, me and my sister watched 
her playing cards with her dreamt friends, including my dad (who'd been dead 
for awhile by then). Her eyes were open, hands up as if holding a dealt hand, 
etc. She'd pull cards out and lay them down on the "table". Her eyes would dart 
back and forth. She'd even complain under her breath about how long "someone" 
was taking to play their turn. This went on for hours ... literally I think 
about 2.5 hours in one stint. I interrupted her during one "game" after which 
she started talking about there being a man in the bathroom. She wasn't afraid. 
She just wanted to know who that man was in the bathroom. There was no bathroom 
and, obviously, no man. There was a mirror where she kept looking, though.


On 5/20/20 10:47 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> Last night I woke up at 4:00 am and had to take a medication.  I was very 
> much asleep but also awake enough to think, "If I remember my current dream 
> it will help me go back to sleep" or some similar thought without words.  I 
> thought,  "Ah, I am dreaming about X".  I got up, walked into the bathroom.  
> By the time I raised the cup of water to my lips I had forgotten what "X" was.


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Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-03-29 Thread Dean Gerber
 All--
Actual data for NM follows:
covidtracking.com/data/state/new-mexico/#history


Highly recommended and talented volunteer group that could use expert help. 
(Hint, hint).  They act in place of CDC: covidtracking.com
Also for the curious:
http://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Best to all,

Dean Gerber


On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 06:20:01 PM MDT, Tom Johnson 
 wrote:  
 
 Ah yes.  The ol' Behavioral Epidemiology theory.


Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com
Institute for Analytic Journalism   -- Santa Fe, NM USA
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:17 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:

The column I added indicates that the derivative is increasing.

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505 670-9918
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:56 PM  wrote:


Oh, just mine.  The idea that 14 days after the toilet paper orgy the growth 
rate would peak.  It was also 14 days ago that the schools closed.  

 

N

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

thompnicks...@gmail.com

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

 

From: Friam  On Behalf Of Tom Johnson
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 5:12 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

 

Which and whose theory is that?




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On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 3:51 PM  wrote:


All, particularly the mother church: 

 

Don’t you hate it when a perfectly beautiful theory is destroyed by an ugly 
fact.  

 

On to Monday!  

 

Nick 


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Re: [FRIAM] Anderson Cooper & Steven Colbert

2019-08-16 Thread Dean Gerber
 Hi Frank,
This interview was was remarkable from so many different sides that I am going 
to have listen at least more time.  Thank you so much bringing this to our 
attention.  A real gift from the heart, Frank.
Best ...
Dean
On Friday, August 16, 2019, 04:57:28 PM MDT, Frank Wimberly 
 wrote:  
 
 
This morning at Friam I was expressing enthusiasm about this interview.  I 
don't believe this is the entire program but I hope it includes the best parts.
I am impressed with both men's intelligence and capacity to be real.  Colbert 
is funny on his nightly show but he shows depth in this program.  Cooper 
matches him.
https://youtu.be/csb4OeTk0uw

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Re: [FRIAM] Thank you George, Dan, and Dean. For taking me to the hospital. My aphasia was almost gone within an hour. It was very strange to know what I wanted to say without being able to find the w

2019-06-07 Thread Dean Gerber
 Hi Frank,
So glad you are getting good and timely care, and that the early symptoms 
subsided relatively quickly.  Here is hoping for a full and speedy recovery.  
Do take time to recover and to heal at the deeper level.  This was very 
traumatic for you.
DeanOn Friday, June 7, 2019, 8:18:17 PM MDT, Frank Wimberly 
 wrote:  
 
 Diagnosis TIA

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On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 8:14 PM George Duncan  wrote:

Glad to hear you are getting appropriate monitoring. Certainly a scary 
experience. 
Duncan
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 7:21 PM Frank Wimberly  wrote:


They are keeping me overnight to monitor certain variables.

In gratitude,. 
Frank

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Re: [FRIAM] FW: Math emojis

2019-01-30 Thread Dean Gerber
 "For every  epsilon > 0, there exists a delta such that ..."
On Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 12:09:18 PM MST, Nick Thompson 
 wrote:  
 
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Alright.  I’ll bite.  Why (or how) is “Let epsilon < 0” a joke?  

  

n

  

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

  

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Carl Tollander
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 11:18 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: [FRIAM] Math emojis

  

https://www.math3ma.com/blog/math-emojis

  

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Re: [FRIAM] Hywel

2018-06-20 Thread Dean Gerber
 Hi Frank,
That is very sad news indeed.  Sadder yet his isolation toward the end, away 
from people who might have cared for him and enjoyed his company, even in a 
facility.  I enjoyed those years when we met with him, and tried to get him to 
understand or even sympathize a little with the mathematical point. of view.  
No luck there, but I found the challenge very interesting, as an applied 
mathematician would of a brilliant and cantankerous old experimental physicist. 
 A Welshman to boot, he loved Dylan Thomas, and could recite him at length with 
the same brogue.
In the end his angry and insulting out bursts became too much for what I was 
getting out the experience, considering what I was getting from others.  I 
always admired you patience with him.  I bet tennis helped!
Thanks for letting me know. Please inform me of any memorial or some such.
Regards ...
Dean
On Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 10:49:06 AM MDT, Frank Wimberly 
 wrote:  
 
 Our dear friend and colleague Hywel White died this morning from lung cancer.
Frank


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Re: [FRIAM] Woohoo power issues?

2018-06-18 Thread Dean Gerber
 Gillian--
We had a very sharp "surge" or more likely a "drop" mid afternoon out here in 
Northwest Santa Fe- right near the La Tierra exit of  599.  It was not strong 
enough to cause any appliances to notice, but my Windows 10 PC took almost 45 
minutes to recover.  I have never seen that before.
Be well ...
Dean Gerber
On Monday, June 18, 2018, 7:15:09 PM MDT, Gillian Densmore 
 wrote:  
 
 I just got back from Zumba looks like either a power surge don't know how or I 
need an electronition to separate Rob and my circut breakers..kind of nit done 
to March around someobes garage to check a power problem typical to summer.Any 
ideas to how to get an estimate? Or if it's worth it? Any ideas how to check if 
it's just santa Fe summer or santafe electric it just a Casita that wasn't 
built well?
 Rob if you still read this list and it's typacal bad wiring on that goes on to 
your turf we'll need figure how to play nice to fix it
If it's fixable and worth it


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Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

2017-07-26 Thread Dean Gerber
Nick--
Are you OK?  Many of us are concerned about each other over the effects of age, 
and we are concerned about you.  What does "laid up" mean?  Feel free to keep 
that private if you wish.  But, we are concerned.
Best wishes,
Dean
On Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 11:17:04 PM CDT, Nick Thompson 
 wrote:

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I loved it. metaphors or no.  

  

I am laid up, right now, and so won’t have much to say for a bit.

  

Keep up the good work, you  guys. 

  

Nick

  

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

  

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:17 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

  

Thanks, Steve.  The metaphor allusion was a not very humorous way to make the 
pointer to my little book allegedly relevant.  As Nick pointed out, the title 
itself is a metaphor. The dictionary definition of "legacy" mentions money or 
other posessions which are left in a bequest.  There are some phrases in the 
text which are unambiguously metaphors.

  

I would be very interested in feedback about the book.  Not because I expect to 
improve it but just because...   Nick says that his father, a publisher, always 
said, "You should only become a writer if you can't do anything else".

I think he was talking about earning prospects.

  

It's interesting that the Android mail editor won't let me punctuate the quote 
correctly.

  

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On Jul 24, 2017 8:36 PM, "Steve"  wrote:


I just ordered my copy yesterday.

It IS conceivable that you avoided all use of literary metaphor.

In this very sentence I used at least 2 conceptual metaphors.

Nick might only acknowledge literary metaphors?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:42 PM, "Frank Wimberly"  wrote:
>
> There have been no entries in the competition to find a metaphor in this book:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/New-Mexico-Legacy-Frank-Wimberly/dp/1548003360
>
> By the way, the title doesn't count.
>
> Frank
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
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>
> Glen,
>
> I already use AutoHotKey  Script to run Code in Maple Math and Dump .txt 
> vertex data embedded in Processing 3 code (some Java offshoot) The autoHotKey 
> assembles the hundreds of images and 3D objects into ordered sets and then 
> runs MovieMaker to produce video .wmv, which you have seen already.
>
> It was my intention to convert the functional routines from Maple  directly 
> into Processing and share that code widely.
> But few people other than web artists use Processing and it does not seem 
> able to run on a web site. I guess this is a general problem or short coming.
>
> Processing graphics are fast and surprisingly good, better than I am used to 
> elsewhere.
> I will try and write the Processing version of the Maple guts and get it out 
> but it may take sometime and others will have to install the Processing 
> engine which is free but sort of clunky to set up.
>
> There are a number of issues that all this cross talk introduces such as 
> while Processing does crank out 3D object files readily accepted by 3D 
> printers.
> But it handles colors strangely and seems unable to mix these objects with 
> solid primitives during object creation. A task probably better suited to CAD 
> packages.
>
> If this is done you will probably by amazed at all the useless junk that 
> pours out at the far end. Like my undergrads trying to build a toboggan out 
> of concrete.

Re: [FRIAM] More food for thought: Is There a Multidimensional Mathematical World Hidden in the Brain’s Computation?

2017-06-24 Thread Dean Gerber
Tom--
Fine, informative article.  One cohesive view of the evolution of mathematical 
thought might be:
1.  Geometry/ number theory.
2.  Early algebra (symbolic thought)
3.  Analysis (analytic geometry and calculus)
4. Topology.
5. Abstract algebra (previous century)
6. Algebraic topology( integrates concepts from many disciplines)  Highly 
applicable to modern science, e.g. your reverenced article?
Thanks for the link.  Dean Gerber 

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Re: [FRIAM] Interesting take on mathematics requirements

2017-05-31 Thread Dean Gerber
Barry--
That sounds about right, which slowed me down a bit in that pursuit.  Where 
does the quote come from?  Also, I V. DOLGACHEV, recently wrote a book to 
explain classical algebraic geometry to current experts, who evidently have 
difficult with the old stuff.
--Dean 

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:15 AM, Barry MacKichan 
 wrote:
 

 … in an ideal world, people would learn this material over many years, 
after having background courses in commutative algebra, algebraic 
topology, differential geometry, complex analysis, homological algebra, 
number theory, and French literature.

 From Foundations of Algebraic Geometry


--Barry



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Re: [FRIAM] Fractals/Chaos/Manifolds

2017-03-01 Thread Dean Gerber
With respect to the word "manifold" somewhere around here:
http://www.quantum-gravitation.de/media/3a2a81c0493b7f728061fff0.pdf

--Dean Gerber 

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:35 PM, Robert J. Cordingley 
<rob...@cirrillian.com> wrote:
 

 OK, why are mathematical manifolds called that?  It seems such a weird 
and out of place term.  I've tried to find out without success.

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Re: [FRIAM] InformedElectorate (= votethewill.com)

2017-01-25 Thread Dean Gerber
Nick--
It is a scam.
--Dean 

On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:09 PM, Nick Thompson 
 wrote:
 

 Hi, 
everybody,   I have been pestered by an organization called InformedElectorate 
asking me if I want to join a group of a half million people who will be 
regularly surveyed on important questions of the day.  They use a very odd 
system of semi-robocalls.  On the first call, I said, sure why not?  ON the 
second call  they blasted me with an screed for a donation of 25 dollars to 
cover the “large expenses” of their effort.  If I weren’t such an old Yankee 
skinflint, I might have gone for it.  But it began to seem to me that for 12.5 
million dollars forms the basis for a mighty good business plan.  I am trying 
to confirm that it is a scam, but until that time, I thought I would alert you 
all.  FWIW, they made scambusters.    Now, you’re all going to write back 
telling me that OF COURSE it’s a scam; why am I so late to the party?    
Signed,   Your Naïve Old Yankee Skinflint.    Nicholas S. ThompsonEmeritus 
Professor of Psychology and BiologyClark 
Universityhttp://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/  

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Re: [FRIAM] The virus that could cure Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, and more — NOVA Next | PBS

2016-03-25 Thread Dean Gerber
This takes some time, but is well worth it.  Try reading this first, then 
Toms's referenced article again.  Or wait for Bruce?
http://phages.org/

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phrase "...phages such as M13 have only one purpose: to pass on their genes,"  
I wish we had more biologists in FRIAM to explain how this would be 
likely/possible.  Still, a good 
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Re: [FRIAM] second computer issue

2014-10-03 Thread Dean Gerber
Hi Gillian,
I have been having similar problems with all my browsers:  Chrome, Opera, and 
possibly Fire Fox.  What I see is that using multiple tabs eats up huge amounts 
of memory.  Chrome, for example often starts two processes for each tab, each 
using a good sized block of memory, whether the tabs are doing anything or not. 
 Sometimes Chrome will  retain that that block, which can be quite large while 
it is being used, event though you close the tab.  On a memory-short set up 
this can bring everything to a crawl.  My solution with Chrome on this system 
is to not use tabs at all and to routinely make sure Chrome processes that 
should have shut down do in fact shut down. This is on an early Dell with a 
good enough processor but only 2 GB of memory and Win 7.
Hope this helps. Dean Gerber
Hope this helps 

   

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wrote:
   

 Anyone have some ideas what'd cause a Del to constantly only say it's at 80% 
ram use with only firefox open.I ask because recently the damn thing when I run 
firefox slows to a crawl,  ctr-shift-esc says it has 80% of the ram used, and 
10% of the CPU used.When I tride googling nothing stood out. I just need the 
damn thing to stay together long enough to be able to backup.

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Re: [FRIAM] Spam Problems?

2013-06-17 Thread Dean Gerber
I received one from Dena Aquilina.  Did not open it.



 From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net
To: Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com; disc...@sfcomplex.org 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:08 PM
Subject: [FRIAM] Spam Problems?
 


I've gotten two spam emails that may have come from hacked email accounts.

Anyone else get similar ones?

   -- Owen

-- Forwarded message --
From: John Hellier qhell...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM
Subject: FW: John Hellier
To: cjungm cju...@gmail.com, Dad boatyard...@sbcglobal.net, Owen Densmore 
o...@backspaces.net, Eli e...@sparkrelief.org, ewhitmore 
ewhitm...@gmail.com





hello! http://ns2.rxmedicalweb.com/qxiswhwq/esg/wczrt/ynmu.html   

John Hellier



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Re: [FRIAM] bursting the placebo bubble

2013-04-25 Thread Dean Gerber
Ah yes, ah yes!

Better hung for a wolf than a sheep



 From: Victoria Hughes victo...@toryhughes.com
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] bursting the placebo bubble
 


Ah….

This and Steve's preceeding note are the most useful, humane comment so far in 
this thread. 
Thanks, Robert.

Tory

On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Robert Holmes rob...@robertholmes.org wrote:

Steve's post made me think of the Roger McGough poem Let me die a youngman's 
death: 



Let me die a youngman's death
not a clean and inbetween
the sheets holywater death
not a famous-last-words
peaceful out of breath death


When I'm 73
and in constant good tumour
may I be mown down at dawn
by a bright red sports car
on my way home
from an allnight party


Or when I'm 91
with silver hair
and sitting in a barber's chair
may rival gangsters
with hamfisted tommyguns burst in
and give me a short back and insides


Or when I'm 104
and banned from the Cavern
may my mistress
catching me in bed with her daughter
and fearing for her son
cut me up into little pieces
and throw away every piece but one


Let me die a youngman's death
not a free from sin tiptoe in
candle wax and waning death
not a curtains drawn by angels borne
'what a nice way to go' death        

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Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted

2013-02-20 Thread Dean Gerber
We have used Dropbox somewhat successfully at SFAFS to coordinate assignments 
and other data in our Science Fair Judging project.  It is vital to understand 
that shared folders can be fully edited (including deleting!) by one and all in 
the sharing group, so that without good discipline and understanding things can 
run amok.  For example, if one group member deletes a file from a shared 
folder, that file is deleted from every folder in the group.  It is gone.  This 
works independently of OS file permissions.  Dropbox is not really suitable for 
collaborative development because of this. 

--Dean



 From: Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
 
DropBox syncs files between as many computers as you like, using the cloud. 
DropBox folders can be shared with as many people as you invite. It does not 
provide its own editing capabilities.

If you want to share an Illustrator file with someone, drag it into the shared 
DropBox subfolder. It will automatically appear in the corresponding subfolder 
on the other person's computer. She can then edit it with Illustrator.

Another option is Evernote. The free version is restricted in the files it will 
allow as attachments to notes, but I understand that the paid version allows 
any file as an attachment to a note. The sharing is similar to that of DropBox; 
it is by invitation.

--Barry


On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

 Hi all
 In light of some issues I have been running into with google drive I wondered 
 what else is out there for cloud back ups that also permits Collaboration by 
 this I meen that I want to be able to send someone a URL where documents in 
 popular formats are where they can read them and also be able to edit them. 
 I have seen some chatter about this on the list recently but I don't know 
 what places are good vs junk.
 I do have dropbox wich is awsome for somestuff I don't know if it has baked 
 in ways to allow editing of documents I tested it with a illustrator file- it 
 thought it was a picture but didn't understand the format.
 What are peoples experiences in this area? what places are good?
 -Gillian Densmore
 
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Re: [FRIAM] Nines: Trivia Question?

2012-10-08 Thread Dean Gerber
You have the theorem.


Guide to the proof. For a four digit number abcd the value in positional 
notation is a1000 + b100 + c10 + d.   If  a'b'c'd' is the rearranged number, 
the value is a'1000 + b'100 + c'10 + d', and the difference is


(a-a')1000 + (b-b')100 + (c-c')10 + (d-d') =


(a-a')(999 +1) + (b - b')(99 +1) + (c-c')(9+1) + (d-d') = 


(a-a')(999) + (b-b')(99) + (c-c')(9) + (d-d') +  (a-a') + (b- b') + (c-c') 


Clearly the last 4 terms sum to zero, because the primed numbers are just a 
rearrangement on the unprimed ones, and the first three terms are divisible by 9


Dean Gerber




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To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 10:20 AM
Subject: [FRIAM] Nines: Trivia Question?
 
I probably should know this...

So when you rearrange the digits of a number (9) and take the difference, it 
is divisible by nine.  A result that sometimes points to accounting errors.  If 
the numbers are not base 10 the result is divisible by (base-1).

What is the associated theorem for this?

Thanks
Robert




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Re: [FRIAM] Nines: Trivia Question?

2012-10-08 Thread Dean Gerber
I don't think so.  The original point (2500 years ago ?) was and still is to 
have a compact notation for the natural numbers that avoids the problem of 
naming all or at a least large number of them individually. In English we name 
the first few numbers individually: zero, one, two, three ... ten, eleven, 
twelve, at which point we begin to notice that this is becoming cumbersome. We 
wobble on to the equivalent , three-teen, four-teen, five-teen, ... nine-teen, 
and then get more and more rational and closer and closer to a positional 
system as the numbers get ever larger.  We can at least always figure the value 
of our names once we have mastered the art of combining a small number of basic 
words:


one two three ...nineteen


twenty thirty .. .ninety (we are getting there: twenty = two-tens, thirty = 
three-tens, etc)


hundred, thousand, million, billion, trillion, quadrillion ...


Quick now: express 75853729915229585876325067 in words


The point of positional notation is to use a very small set of atomic symbols, 
the numerals,  say N of them, which form an ordered sequence that names the 
first N-1 natural numbers 0, 1, 2,  ... , N-1 (N some definite natural number, 
two, ten, sixteen, sixty etc., the base). The natural numbers are then 
symbolized by strings of these numerals.  The value assigned to any particular 
numeral in a particular position within a string is that numeral times the base 
raised to the power of that numeral's position in the string (positions in the 
string are indexed right to left by the natural numbers starting at 0 at the 
rightmost position).  The value of the string as whole is the sum of the all 
values assigned to each particular numeral at its particular position.


1. The simplest notation: binary - base 2, numerals {0,1}.

2.  Common early computer world: octal - base 8, numerals {0 ... 7}.

3.  Most common modern: decimal - base 10, numerals {0 ... 9}

4.  Modern computer world:  hexadecimal (senidenary) - base 16, numerals {0 ... 
9 a b c d e f}

5.  Most incredible:  sexagesimal  (Babylonian): - base 60, numerals { 
ingenious! value of each numeral can be derived from its symbol}


All Babylonian children had to memorize the multiplication and addition tables 
or Be Left Behind 


Much follows from this incredible idea.  We can create rational and even real 
numbers out of the notation by adding to our set of numerals the point symbol ( 
usually .) and assigning negative powers of the base to the positions right 
of the point.  All of our algorithms for adding, subtracting, multiplying and 
dividing numbers are consequences of the positional notation.


Joshua Thorp is exactly correct.  The formula he presents is the very 
elementary formula for the sum of a finite geometric series.


Dean Gerber





 From: Robert J. Cordingley rob...@cirrillian.com
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nines: Trivia Question?
 
...and I guess (base) n can be rational, irrational or even imaginary.
Thanks
Robert

On 10/8/12 12:02 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:
 I think you just replace '9' with 'n-1' in Dean or Frank's answer and you 
 have a general proof, for n=2.

 I suppose you may need to convince yourself that a number like n^k - 1 == 
 (n-1)*n^(k-1) + (n-1)*n^(k-2) + … + (n-1)*(k-k).

 --joshua

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:

 May be I should reframe the question.

 How do you prove there isn't a system of numbers to base N where it doesn't 
 work?

 Thanks,
 Robert

 On 10/8/12 11:00 AM, Tom Carter wrote:
 Robert -

    There's a reasonably good discussion of this here:

       http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58518.html

    Thanks . . .

 tom

 On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Robert J. Cordingley rob...@cirrillian.com 
 wrote:

 I probably should know this...

 So when you rearrange the digits of a number (9) and take the difference, 
 it is divisible by nine.  A result that sometimes points to accounting 
 errors.  If the numbers are not base 10 the result is divisible by 
 (base-1).

 What is the associated theorem for this?

 Thanks
 Robert



 
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Re: [FRIAM] faith

2012-09-24 Thread Dean Gerber
We are all fortunate indeed that we have this very primitive stem brain that is 
extremely perceptive of and extremely knowledgeable of the mostly predictable 
physical world.  It is not distracted by all those higher issues, faith, 
belief,  Yahweh, etc., we all endlessly try to wrestle to ground.  It simply 
does its job, which is to protest us from the consequence of our of our own 
actions with that physical world; and to quickly intervene when we are not 
paying attention and are soon to either die or be seriously harmed.

I allow my razor sharp chef's knife to fall over the edge of my counter-top 
toward my bare feet directly below the plunging knife.  Ms. Stem  jerks the 
proper foot, the one that would have been pierced, out of the way, using the 
other foot, the one that would not have been pierced, to create a stable 
structure  against which the perfect jerk can operate.  All this happens before 
I am even aware the knife has fallen.  Ms. Stem employs some might poweful 
computations to figure all his out, and this case can take immediate action, 
the proper reflex (the leg jerk) whether I liked it or not.


I think in your case, Ms. Stem had it all figured out well before things turned 
critical, but she does not know how to steer your motorcycle.  When she evolved 
to her current talent, there were no motorcycles, but there were plunging 
objects, and yes cliffs.  Along the way, fortunately for us, and by us I mean 
our Cerebellae, she can send us messages, like move left (you idiot, you are 
about to go over a cliff). To your credit, your particular Cerebellum got the 
message an took appropriate actions.  That goodness for that. And a special 
note of appreciation to Ms. Stem.  Nothing for God, Yaweh, premonition, ESP, 
Guardian Angel or other figments of our Cerebellae.


--Dean Gerber





 From: Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] faith
 

I'm not prone to experiencing premonitions.  Additional factoid: I ride 
paranoid because they *are* out to get me.

Yet, the day before yesterday as I was heading south down to Santa Fe on the 
GSA1200, my premonition organ wiggled, and a voice inside my head said, I 
sense danger.  Like somebody who rides paranoid needs to hear that, right?

So I went from DEFCON 2 to DEFCON 4.  Twenty seconds later at the very next 
traffic light in Pojoaque a northbound duelly pickup truck turned suddenly, 
unexpectedly left into the intersection across my path, smack ass dab right in 
front of me.  Had the little voice in my head not spoken, I would have been 
grill hamburger.  As it was, I had engaged that extra little bit of defense 
which gave the margin I needed to miss him.

We won't even go into the bit about the fat guy on the Harley who was going to 
follow the truck through the intersection, and who nearly fell off his bike in 
the process of aborting.

Apropo of nothing, of course, except that I retain my faith that they are out 
to get me when I'm on the motorcycle.

--Doug


On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:

Dave -


Not true - because I have a countervailing belief - I am smarter and more 
aware than they and can thwart their evil intentions.

Inarguable reasoning Dave... I commend you.  Unfortunately I slipped behind the 
curve on my self-image regarding smart+aware a while back.   It may be early 
onset wisdom or late-stage cynicism...  

It *was* my youthful idealism that had me quite willing to hurtle
down the highways with nothing between me and the road except a few
feet (or inches) of air and maybe a 1/8 or less of leather.   I was
supremely confident in my own smartness and awareness as the perfect
antidote to all challengers. 

Anecdote For example, one evening just after dusk 30+ years
ago, I was hurtling down Interstate 17 in the right lane (like a
good doobie since I was roughly traveling at the speed limit and was
not passing anyone) when something made me think I needed to get
into the left lane... I checked mirrors, hit my turns, looked over
my shoulder, and drifted left only to realize that the right lane
was no longer there (well, most of it anyway).  I stopped quickly
and backtracked to find that in fact over half of the right lane had
sloughed off into the canyon in a mudslide.  I went back upstream
a hundred yards facing traffic with headlight and flashers in the
right lane and pulled over the first two cars who I left to pass the
word along and went on my way (I still had 7 hours riding ahead of
me that night).   

Those with Faith might say that God spoke to me.  I simply
believe that my cultivated awareness hinted to me that something was
amiss up ahead (missing guardrail in my headlights?  Dark abyss
below my threshold of consciousness?  Had I heard

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The Economist

2012-09-13 Thread Dean Gerber
Owen and all:

The best site by far for all matters on the Middle East is run Juan Cole, a 
well known History professor at the University of Michigan.  He has many 
knowledgeable followers who both contribute articles and assist in maintaining 
accuracy. Today's (Thursday), and his links, give a very good rundown on the 
attack on the Ambassador and the provoking film.  Here is the link: 
http://www.juancole.com/.  I have read every one of his posts since he started 
his blog several months after 9/11.  Always invaluable.


Read! Digest!  Dean Gerber





 From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: America and the Middle East: Murder in Libya | The 
Economist
 

Thanks .. I had heard similar ideas.  Do you have a pointer .. say to an 
article or site?

   -- Owen


On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bruce Sherwood bruce.sherw...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Also, as I understand it, one of the hopeful developments in recent
years is that there HAS emerged significant push-back in the Muslim
world to the fundamentalist extremists. A related development is that
there has been growing Muslim hostility to Al Queda, because they
really don't like Al Queda killing so many innocent people, who
numerically are almost exclusively Muslims.

I'm afraid US coverage has downplayed these developments; they aren't
as dramatic.

Bruce



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Re: [FRIAM] Celebrating the Higgs - explaning and predicting

2012-07-11 Thread Dean Gerber
Excellent series of explanations, Bruce. Do you by chance have a specific 
reference to the ten-pin structure and its relation to group theory?  Thanks 
... Dean Gerber



 From: Bruce Sherwood bruce.sherw...@gmail.com
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Celebrating the Higgs - explaning and predicting
 
Good points, Saul.

If I remember correctly, before the Bohr model, people looking at the
hydrogen emission spectrum had already discovered an empirical formula
for the frequencies of the emission lines:

f = constant*(1/n1^2 - 1/n2^2)

Bohr's model yielded the same formula, with Planck's constant times f
being the energy of an emitted photon when the atom's quantum
number changed from n2 to n1, and the model also provided an
evaluation of the constant in terms of known quantities such as the
mass of the electron.

I should mention that the ten-pin diagram is a graphical
representation of a particular structure in group theory.

Bruce

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Saul Caganoff scagan...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems that many scientific fields go through a phase of observation
 (derisively called stamp collecting) followed by a phase of
 classification. If you're lucky then patterns can be picked out of the
 classification scheme to predict where to look for new entities or new
 interesting phenomena.

 The Periodic Table is one of the cited examples. Another example (though
 perhaps not as good) is the Hertzprung-Russell diagram used in astronomy
 where stars are plotted onto a graph with luminosity and colour as the two
 axes. They form a characteristic pattern which had to be explained by any
 theory of stellar evolution.

 I also recall many years ago picking up a book on atomic spectra published
 in 1901 - some 12 years before the Bohr theory of the atom - which
 illustrated hundreds of different emission spectra and talked about the
 relationships between spectral line frequencies in terms of waves and
 resonances. It reflected a very interesting point in the science where
 patterns were emerging and calling out for an explanation.

 So it seems that a classification model can be used to make predictions
 - to see if the pattern extends to unobserved areas - and that this can be
 independent of an underlying explanatory theory. I think Gell-Mann's QCD
 models probably fit this idea. The image of the ten-pin owling skittles
 pattern and the mystery of what lies at the tip is very evocative.

 Regards,
 Saul

 On 11 July 2012 06:56, Bruce Sherwood bruce.sherw...@gmail.com wrote:

 For Engineers perhaps, predictive models are sufficient, they may not
 be (very?) interested in explaining *why* a particular material has
 the properties it does, merely *what* those properties are and how
 reliable the properties might be under a variety of conditions.

 I don't think this currently true. A big chunk of what used to be
 labeled physics is now in academic engineering departments with the
 name material science. This consists of exploiting models that
 explain observed properties of materials, with the goal of looking for
 opportunities to change parameters to get improved behavior. In the
 early 1990s I heard a talk by an engineering professor at the science
 museum in Toronto, where he explained how such research had led to
 concrete many times stronger than it had been, and that the iconic
 tall tower in Toronto could not have been built not many years before
 it was built, as it relied on much stronger concrete.

 In some cases someone sees how, starting from fundamental physics
 principles, one can predict that such and such should happen or be. In
 other cases an observed phenomenon gets explained in terms of
 fundamental physics principles (post-diction), which then suggests how
 changes in the situation might yield an improved behavior. Pre-diction
 and post-diction both require a deep understanding of how to go from
 underlying fundamental principles to the behavior, but pre-diction in
 addition requires the imagination to run the argument forward, not
 already knowing the answer. That's why I claim that post-diction
 (explanation) is more common than pre-diction.

 There's a fruitful interplay between pre-diction and post-diction. An
 example I've mentioned some time ago, from our intro physics textbook:
 When searching for an explanation for spark formation in air (we see
 the spark and ask how it occurs, which is post-diction or explanation)
 there are a couple of tentative explanations that one can rule out.
 Another explanation seems to explain the phenomenon, and the validity
 of this post-diction is greatly strengthened by noting that it (and
 not the other explanations) pre-dicts that it takes twice the critical
 electric field to trigger a spark if the air density is doubled, a
 pre-diction that is consistent with observations.

 Bruce

Re: [FRIAM] re diagnosis

2012-05-30 Thread Dean Gerber
To Sarah'

You have probably already done this, but if not please go to a board certified 
Rheumatologist at good hospital or Medical Center.  There have been many 
advances in treatment in recent years, and a medically sound diagnosis is 
essential, as is the advice and treatment options offered by the practice of 
modern medicine.  Follow this with alternative advice and approaches if you 
wish, but even here a modern and well trained and certified rheumatologist can 
offer guidance.  Best wishes and good luck ... Dean Gerber



 From: peggy miller highlandwi...@gmail.com
To: friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:23 PM
Subject: [FRIAM] re diagnosis
 

To Sarah -- go see a Chinese/Ayurvedic Medicinal Herbalist. There are ways to 
help your arthritis besides just computer aids! Seriously. Peggy

-- 

Miss Peggy Miller, owner/OEO 
Highland Winds
wix.com/peggymiller/highlandwinds
Art Studio/HerbShop is at 1520 S. 7th St. W. (Just off Russell, four blocks 
from Good Food Store)

406-541-7577 (home/office/studio shop)
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Re: [FRIAM] The disappearing virtual library

2012-04-24 Thread Dean Gerber
I think the following article by Lewis Lapham would be of interest to many 
followers of this thread:

 http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/04/24-2


Dean Gerber





 From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The disappearing virtual library
 

Another input from Harvard:
http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/04/24/1816217/harvard-journals-too-expensive-switch-to-open-access

Harvard recently sent a memo to faculty saying, 'We write to communicate an 
untenable situation facing the Harvard Library. Many large journal publishers 
have made the scholarly communication environment fiscally unsustainable and 
academically restrictive. This situation is exacerbated by efforts of certain 
publishers (called providers) to acquire, bundle, and increase the pricing on 
journals.' The memo goes on to describe the situation in more detail and 
suggests options to faculty and students for the future that includessubmitting 
articles to open-access journals. If Harvard paves the way with this, how long 
until other academic bodies follow suit and cut off companies such as Elsevier?

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Re: [FRIAM] VORTICAL FLOWS and LIFT

2011-05-07 Thread Dean Gerber
Hi Russ,
It's Peter Lissamen, and there is a great deal about him on google,  and 
numerous references.

Best wishes ... Dean Gerber
--- On Sat, 5/7/11, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] VORTICAL FLOWS and LIFT
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com
Cc: plissa...@comcast.net
Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 6:24 PM

Right. Google doesn't know anything about it.
   

Your search - Plessaman The Meaning of Lift - did not match any documents.  
Suggestions:Make sure all words are spelled correctly.

Try different keywords.Try more general keywords.Try fewer keywords. 


 -- Russ Abbott
_

  Professor, Computer Science
  California State University, Los Angeles



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On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Grant Holland grant.holland...@gmail.com 
wrote:




  

  
  
Peter - Fascinating.



I too vote that you make available to the FRIAM alias your
referenced paper so that we all can get the benefit of you wisdom on
this.



Grant



On 5/7/11 1:22 PM, plissa...@comcast.net wrote:

  
  

  
The videos are wonderful, and I thank Nick, and
agree with his opinion.  As for the Theory of Tornadoes,
it seems that to date it's literally a case of God only
knows!  But mebbe Friam, too.  I have 1/2 century
background teaching grad fluid mechanics at Caltech,
Stanford, and USC and have done a lot of meteorological
field work, but really wouldn't try to discuss the
subject.  I jus' dunno. 
 
One should remember that what one sees is a LOT
less than what one gets, because that's where the tracer
happens to be.  This I expressed vividly to my students
in auto design, when we took pix of airflow near bluff
vehicles on test tracks in the Mohave Desert.  A'course
there is a huge billowing plume that presages before,
and persists long after the vehicle is over the
horizon. I remind them that it was not the dust doing
this, but the air, and an identical disturbance
occurs invisibly whenever a body passes through air.  To
paraphrase, its bite is just as keen, although it is
not seen! Makes one take car streamlining seriously.  I
actually hold patents on one of those drag shield things
that goes on the cab of a tractor-trailer rig, that was
developed on NSF funding at our test base near El Mirage
in the Mohave.  Does good things for fuel consumption.
 
It would seem likely that the sense of the
vorticity in a tornado is related to the shear
and Coriolis Effect ( Gaspard-G, 1835), although
which way, I know not.  I was manager of a big DOE
program called the Coriolis Project for three years, so
dealt a little with that.  Lotta spin on the ball,
there, literally!  For smaller scale vortical flow
Coriolis does not apply.  Some interesting anecdotes: 
In East Africa, delightful Kikuyu tricksters, stand
right on the equatorial line and for a few shillings
will show you the exit vortex from plastic bucket, then
move it north over the line a few feet into t'other
hemisphere and prove that it rotates in the opposite
direction.  We seen this!  Well, it really does, but not
because of Gaspard-Gustave.  In the Libyan deserts Holy
Men will attack a dust devil, with much imprecation
and flailing of a broad sword - and kill
it.  It just drops to the ground!  You can see this. 
With your own eyes. Allah is indeed great!   According
to Bagnold, a great Brit desertologist and fluid
mechanicer, whom I have used for some of his results,
the secret is to determine in advance what the sense of
the vortex is, and then to enter it on the upwind side,
at just the right distance from the core, and flail
around .  It works, too.  Ralph Bagnold, soldier,
explorer and scientist,  whose monumental work I'm lucky
to have and reference, was portrayed in The English
Patient.  Pity when one is better known for a movie than
an important book