[FRIAM] Academia.edu

[Steve Smith]

I don't know how I got on Academia.edu's list but they have seduced me 
well to the point that I have found myself answering their questions 
about all kinds of things I would normally ignore (or figure out how to 
"unsubscribe")


Their regular list of "recommended reading" has been so spot-on for me 
that I always read the abstract and often read whole papers I had no 
idea existed by authors I knew nothing of before.


I have several times made the effort to go through a few dozen papers 
offered as having been authored by me and marked them "not me!" (what 
with a name like mine?) Their false-positives are quite high and I've 
not bothered to see if they credit *all* my publications (not that 
numerous anyway)...  but I find it cathartic to read through titles of 
papers that my dopplenyms might have written and consider who I might be 
if I'd followed one of their dozen(s) of alternate tracks!


I have stopped short of actually giving them money  ($150/year) and I'm 
offended by their *pitch*:


 * /Don't miss a single Mention/
 * /Track your growing reputation See what academics are saying
   about you/

I don't really care what others are saying about me (or more to the 
point, it is none of my business) and I can use Google Scholar to search 
for citations easily enough if/when I might care...


but as I said, their reading-recommendation false-positives are near zero!

anyone know anything more about them?  Have your own experiences?




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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[glen ep ropella]

Perhaps this:
http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/2009-January/058912.html
http://backspaces.net/28/moth-my-way-or-the-highway/

On 05/10/2017 01:59 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> I may have missed part of the thread, but what does MOTH stand for? Or are
> you talking about the psychology of the night time equivalent of
> butterflies? A la
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/head-strong/201404/what-the-military-can-learn-the-peppered-moth

-- 
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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu

[Nick Thompson]

I am going to be REALLY ANNOYED if Academe pulls away from R.G.  

 

N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 12:17 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu

 

I’ve wondered about this also. Let us know if you find any answers. Like Nick, 
I’ve been on ResearchGate.

--Barry

 

On 6 May 2017, at 10:47, Owen Densmore wrote:

Does any here use ​Academia.edu​? 

 

They are maturing slowly but surely and I'm wondering if they're soon to be the 
LinkedIn for published papers. 

 

They recently sent an invite to have your own page, and I wondered if it was 
worth it, or maybe scamy/phishy.

 

   -- Owen

 




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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu

[Owen Densmore]

I think "both"? But Academia seems to be "trending" .. i.e. providing
better services, being (unlike Google) Slow and Steady wins the race. And
offering your own website? Not sure RG does that.

   -- Owen

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Barry MacKichan <
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote:

> I’ve wondered about this also. Let us know if you find any answers. Like
> Nick, I’ve been on ResearchGate.
>
> --Barry
>
> On 6 May 2017, at 10:47, Owen Densmore wrote:
>
> Does any here use ​Academia.edu​?
>
> They are maturing slowly but surely and I'm wondering if they're soon to
> be the LinkedIn for published papers.
>
> They recently sent an invite to have your own page, and I wondered if it
> was worth it, or maybe scamy/phishy.
>
>-- Owen
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu

[Barry MacKichan]

I’ve wondered about this also. Let us know if you find any answers. 
Like Nick, I’ve been on ResearchGate.


--Barry


On 6 May 2017, at 10:47, Owen Densmore wrote:


Does any here use ​Academia.edu​?

They are maturing slowly but surely and I'm wondering if they're soon 
to be

the LinkedIn for published papers.

They recently sent an invite to have your own page, and I wondered if 
it

was worth it, or maybe scamy/phishy.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Gary Schiltz]

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Eric Charles <
eric.phillip.char...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If I was in a field that used ArXiv, and didn't secretly like the idea
> of lay people and students sometimes reading my work, I wouldn't be on
> either. But psychology doesn't do ArXiv, and I do secretly like those ideas.
>

I'm curious why you say that you "secretly" like the idea of lay people and
students reading your work. Is there some taboo among psychologists against
non-professionals reading professional scientific articles?


> Our article on MOTH has 62 reads through Research Gate and 4 through
> Academia (via my upload).
>

I may have missed part of the thread, but what does MOTH stand for? Or are
you talking about the psychology of the night time equivalent of
butterflies? A la
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/head-strong/201404/what-the-military-can-learn-the-peppered-moth

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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Nick Thompson]

Eric, 

 

I forgot to ask.  Are the people at Academe as STUPID as the people at R. G.?   
 I mean rigid, bone-headed,. Unimaginative, slow-witted, and lacking totally in 
humor and imagination?  

 

Just asking. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Eric Charles
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:26 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

 

I have been on both Research Gate and Academia for some time. I am not 
particularly active in either (except for an occasional foray into an R.G. 
forum). However, it seems evident that my uploaded works receive a wider 
readership. Proprietary search engines (JSTOR, etc.) are on the outs, and 
papers easily accessed via Google search and the like are much more likely to 
be read and cited. Google Scholar searches R.G. and Academia and will pop up a 
PDF link right next to the search results. 

 

This is particularly obvious with regards to the professional book reviews I 
write every year or two. Because the venues for the reviews aren't easy for 
most to access, I doubt I get more than a handful of readers there. However, 
because I tend to give the flashy titles, a few have several hundred reads 
through the websites. That (I hope) helps the authors of the reviewed books 
more than it helps me, but it speaks strongly to the increased attention it is 
possible to get for work by virtue of posting on those sites. This has been 
much, much more effective than posting to a personal website, and takes less 
upkeep for steady traffic than my academic blog. 

 

If I was in a field that used ArXiv, and didn't secretly like the idea of lay 
people and students sometimes reading my work, I wouldn't be on either. But 
psychology doesn't do ArXiv, and I do secretly like those ideas. 

 

Our article on MOTH has 62 reads through Research Gate and 4 through Academia 
(via my upload). Probably it has more reads through JASSS. In contrast, I have 
an encyclopedia entry about the history of Clark University's psychology 
department that has 355 reads on Research Gate and 22 through Academia. That is 
probably far more than have read the work via its published source. My most 
read article on Academia is a statistical simulation I published during my grad 
school days, which has over 1,000 reads. Aside from indicating I made a poor 
career choices by sticking with my love of experimental psychology, that 
suggest the potential audience, even for highly technical papers, is quite 
large. 

 

Best,

Eric

 

 





---
Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Supervisory Survey Statistician

U.S. Marine Corps

 

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Russ Abbott <russ.abb...@gmail.com 
<mailto:russ.abb...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You might want to consider Zenodo <http://about.zenodo.org/infrastructure/> .

 


Host institution


Zenodo is hosted by CERN which has existed since 1954 and currently has an 
experimental programme defined for the next 20+ years. CERN is a memory 
institution for High Energy Physics and renowned for its pioneering work in 
Open Access. Organisationally Zenodo is embedded in the IT Department, 
Collaboration Devices and Applications Group, Digital Repositories Section 
(IT-CDA-DR).

Zenodo is offered by CERN as part of its mission to make available the results 
of its work ( 
<https://council.web.cern.ch/en/content/convention-establishment-european-organization-nuclear-research#2>
 CERN Convention, Article II, §1).


Funding


Zenodo is funded by:

*   European Commission via the  <http://www.openaire.eu/> OpenAIRE 
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*   FP7: OpenAIRE (246686), OpenAIREplus (283595)
*   Horizon 2020: OpenAIRE2020 (643410) and OpenAIRE-Connect (731011).

*<http://home.cern/> CERN
*   Donations via  
<https://giving.web.cern.ch/content/cern-society-foundation> CERN & Society 
Foundation

Zenodo is developed and supported as a marginal activity, and hosted on top of 
existing infrastructure and services at CERN, in order to reduce operational 
costs and rely on existing efforts for High Energy Physics. CERN has some of 
the world’s top experts in running large scale research data infrastructures 
and digital repositories that we rely on in order to deliver a trusted digital 
repository.

 


Content


*   Scope: All fields of research. All types of research artifacts. Content 
must not violate privacy or copyright, or breach confidentiality or 
non-disclosure agreements for data collected from human subjects.
*   Status of research data: Any status is accepted, from any stage of the 
research lifecycle.
*   Eligible depositors: Anyone may register as user of Zenodo. All us

Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Nick Thompson]

Thanks, Eric, 

 

Sounds like, as an old friend used to say, “It’s a throw-up.”

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> 
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Eric Charles
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:26 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

 

I have been on both Research Gate and Academia for some time. I am not 
particularly active in either (except for an occasional foray into an R.G. 
forum). However, it seems evident that my uploaded works receive a wider 
readership. Proprietary search engines (JSTOR, etc.) are on the outs, and 
papers easily accessed via Google search and the like are much more likely to 
be read and cited. Google Scholar searches R.G. and Academia and will pop up a 
PDF link right next to the search results. 

 

This is particularly obvious with regards to the professional book reviews I 
write every year or two. Because the venues for the reviews aren't easy for 
most to access, I doubt I get more than a handful of readers there. However, 
because I tend to give the flashy titles, a few have several hundred reads 
through the websites. That (I hope) helps the authors of the reviewed books 
more than it helps me, but it speaks strongly to the increased attention it is 
possible to get for work by virtue of posting on those sites. This has been 
much, much more effective than posting to a personal website, and takes less 
upkeep for steady traffic than my academic blog. 

 

If I was in a field that used ArXiv, and didn't secretly like the idea of lay 
people and students sometimes reading my work, I wouldn't be on either. But 
psychology doesn't do ArXiv, and I do secretly like those ideas. 

 

Our article on MOTH has 62 reads through Research Gate and 4 through Academia 
(via my upload). Probably it has more reads through JASSS. In contrast, I have 
an encyclopedia entry about the history of Clark University's psychology 
department that has 355 reads on Research Gate and 22 through Academia. That is 
probably far more than have read the work via its published source. My most 
read article on Academia is a statistical simulation I published during my grad 
school days, which has over 1,000 reads. Aside from indicating I made a poor 
career choices by sticking with my love of experimental psychology, that 
suggest the potential audience, even for highly technical papers, is quite 
large. 

 

Best,

Eric

 

 





---
Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Supervisory Survey Statistician

U.S. Marine Corps

 

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Russ Abbott <russ.abb...@gmail.com 
<mailto:russ.abb...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You might want to consider Zenodo <http://about.zenodo.org/infrastructure/> .

 


Host institution


Zenodo is hosted by CERN which has existed since 1954 and currently has an 
experimental programme defined for the next 20+ years. CERN is a memory 
institution for High Energy Physics and renowned for its pioneering work in 
Open Access. Organisationally Zenodo is embedded in the IT Department, 
Collaboration Devices and Applications Group, Digital Repositories Section 
(IT-CDA-DR).

Zenodo is offered by CERN as part of its mission to make available the results 
of its work ( 
<https://council.web.cern.ch/en/content/convention-establishment-european-organization-nuclear-research#2>
 CERN Convention, Article II, §1).


Funding


Zenodo is funded by:

*   European Commission via the  <http://www.openaire.eu/> OpenAIRE 
projects:

*   FP7: OpenAIRE (246686), OpenAIREplus (283595)
*   Horizon 2020: OpenAIRE2020 (643410) and OpenAIRE-Connect (731011).

*<http://home.cern/> CERN
*   Donations via  
<https://giving.web.cern.ch/content/cern-society-foundation> CERN & Society 
Foundation

Zenodo is developed and supported as a marginal activity, and hosted on top of 
existing infrastructure and services at CERN, in order to reduce operational 
costs and rely on existing efforts for High Energy Physics. CERN has some of 
the world’s top experts in running large scale research data infrastructures 
and digital repositories that we rely on in order to deliver a trusted digital 
repository.

 


Content


*   Scope: All fields of research. All types of research artifacts. Content 
must not violate privacy or copyright, or breach confidentiality or 
non-disclosure agreements for data collected from human subjects.
*   Status of research data: Any status is accepted, from any stage of the 
research lifecycle.
*   Eligible depositors: Anyone may register as user of Zenodo. All users 
are allowed to deposit content for which they possess the appropriate rights.
*   Ownership: By uploading content, no change of ow

Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Eric Charles]

l files size limit per record is
>50GB. Higher quotas can be requested and granted on a case-by-case basis.
>- Data quality: All information is provided “as-is”, and the user
>shall hold Zenodo and information providers supplying data to Zenodo free
>and harmless in connection with the use of such information.
>- Metadata types and sources: All metadata is stored internally in
>JSON-format according to a defined JSON schema
><https://zenodo.org/schemas/records/record-v1.0.0.json>. Metadata is
>exported in several standard formats such as MARCXML, Dublin Core, and
>DataCite Metadata Schema (according to the OpenAIRE Guidelines
><http://guidelines.openaire.eu/>).
>- Language: For textual items, English is preferred but all languages
>are accepted.
>- Licenses: Users must specify a license for all publicly available
>files. Licenses for closed access files may be specified in the description
>field.
>
> Access and Reuse
>
>- Access to data objects: Files may be deposited under closed, open,
>or embargoed access. Files deposited under closed access are protected
>against unauthorized access at all levels. Access to metadata and data
>files is provided over standard protocols such as HTTP and OAI-PMH.
>- Use and re-use of data objects: Use and re-use is subject to the
>license under which the data objects were deposited.
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>and provide and end date for the embargo. The repository will restrict
>access to the data until the end of the embargo period; at which time, the
>content will become publically available automatically.
>- Restricted Access: Users may deposit restricted files with the
>ability to share access with others if certain requirements are met. These
>files will not be made publicly available and sharing will be made possible
>only by the approval of depositor of the original file.
>- Metadata access and reuse: Metadata is licensed under CC0, except
>for email addresses. All metadata is exported via OAI-PMH and can be
>harvested.
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:23 AM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> According to  this..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.city-data.com/income/income-Santa-Fe-New-Mexico.html
>>
>>
>>
>> ..there are about 8037 people in Santa Fe with a household income above
>> $100k/year.   Baltimore has a 3% tax.  D.C. has a 8.5% income tax for
>> income over $40k/year.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.thebalance.com/cities-that-levy-income-taxes-3193246
>>
>>
>>
>> Mimic that, only taxing just those with > $100k incomes, and Santa Fe
>> would bring in $25-$70 million dollars a year.  Tax 5% across the board and
>> it would be nearly $130 million (given the 2015 data).
>>
>>
>>
>> Throw in some property tax for the richer folks, maybe could haul in $150
>> or $200 million a year.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Owen
>> Densmore
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 07, 2017 10:48 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam@redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's what I think: Nick should start on his creation of Friam Threads,
>> captured snippets or gists, and post them on Medium. Then once a year,
>> we'll choose which ones could lead to nifty papers and publish them.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it would be fun!
>>
>>
>>
>>-- Owen
>>
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Russ Abbott]

com/cities-that-levy-income-taxes-3193246
>
>
>
> Mimic that, only taxing just those with > $100k incomes, and Santa Fe
> would bring in $25-$70 million dollars a year.  Tax 5% across the board and
> it would be nearly $130 million (given the 2015 data).
>
>
>
> Throw in some property tax for the richer folks, maybe could haul in $150
> or $200 million a year.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Owen
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 07, 2017 10:48 AM
>
>
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​
>
>
>
> Here's what I think: Nick should start on his creation of Friam Threads,
> captured snippets or gists, and post them on Medium. Then once a year,
> we'll choose which ones could lead to nifty papers and publish them.
>
>
>
> I think it would be fun!
>
>
>
>-- Owen
>
>
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Marcus Daniels]

According to  this..

http://www.city-data.com/income/income-Santa-Fe-New-Mexico.html

..there are about 8037 people in Santa Fe with a household income above 
$100k/year.   Baltimore has a 3% tax.  D.C. has a 8.5% income tax for income 
over $40k/year.

https://www.thebalance.com/cities-that-levy-income-taxes-3193246

Mimic that, only taxing just those with > $100k incomes, and Santa Fe would 
bring in $25-$70 million dollars a year.  Tax 5% across the board and it would 
be nearly $130 million (given the 2015 data).

Throw in some property tax for the richer folks, maybe could haul in $150 or 
$200 million a year.

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 10:48 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

Here's what I think: Nick should start on his creation of Friam Threads, 
captured snippets or gists, and post them on Medium. Then once a year, we'll 
choose which ones could lead to nifty papers and publish them.

I think it would be fun!

   -- Owen


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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Owen Densmore]

Here's what I think: Nick should start on his creation of Friam Threads,
captured snippets or gists, and post them on Medium. Then once a year,
we'll choose which ones could lead to nifty papers and publish them.

I think it would be fun!

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Marcus Daniels]

Heh, you'd even know more if you posted PDFs on your own website because you 
could check the web server logs to get an IP.  

-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 10:09 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

In a moment of exquisite timing, I received this email from
ResearchGate:

From: ResearchGate <no-re...@researchgatemail.net>
To: Russell Standish <hpco...@hpcoders.com.au>
Subject: Russell, here's the latest research from your network

ResearchGate
New research from your network
---
This message was sent to hpco...@hpcoders.com.au. To make sure you receive our
+updates, add ResearchGate to your address book or safe list.
See instructions: https://www.researchgate.net/help/whitelist-email
...


So an email sent to me with precisely zero information. How is this useful?

I also get emails saying that someone searched for me on RG (or academia). Well 
who was it? 


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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Russell Standish]

In a moment of exquisite timing, I received this email from
ResearchGate:

From: ResearchGate 
To: Russell Standish 
Subject: Russell, here's the latest research from your network

ResearchGate
New research from your network
---
This message was sent to hpco...@hpcoders.com.au. To make sure you receive our
+updates, add ResearchGate to your address book or safe list.
See instructions: https://www.researchgate.net/help/whitelist-email
...


So an email sent to me with precisely zero information. How is this useful?

I also get emails saying that someone searched for me on RG (or
academia). Well who was it? 


-- 


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Principal, High Performance Coders
Visiting Senior Research Fellowhpco...@hpcoders.com.au
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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Nick Thompson]

RG projects have some interesting features.  In the first place, temporal order 
is preserved, so, if they had an archiving function, one could preserve the 
logical order of comments and responses very easily.  Second, they have a 
"mention" function, so that if your comment is directed to particular people, 
and you mention their names, they will receive notification.  Thus, if you have 
written something that you hope that some person in particular will respond 
to,it is easy to alert them.  It also has a citation, function which I like.  
So if one of my papers is relevant to some argument in the project comment 
section, I can easily direct attention to a relevant paper.  

All of these features could be expanded in various ways, but I have found no 
way to get into a constructive exchange with RG staff.  I can't imagine that 
they are making any money doing what they are doing, and they are not doing 
nearly as much good as they might. 

Perhaps, Owen, you should start a thread on Wikipedia  R.G vs Academe, and 
we should all compare features.  

Thanks for your comments, 

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


-Original Message-
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 6:58 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

I think I'm on both RG and Academia, since I get emails from both, but haven't 
really found their value add yet, over and above using arXiv for publishing 
preprints, and Google Scholar for citation metrics.

Like most social networks, they integrate very poorly with email (by actively 
discouraging participation by email), effectively rendering them invisible to 
me. I have a hard enough time as it is keeping up with email, so there's 
nothing left over to go monitoring any social network site.

But I never say never... Even Farcebook might get me one day :).

BTW - anyone still subscribed to comdig via email? I complained to Carlos when 
I caught up with him in Mexico City last year that since comdig went over to 
LinkedIn, I haven't been able to get the feed, and he said that the old email 
list was still running, but I can't seem to find a way to subscribe to it.

On Sat, May 06, 2017 at 02:35:31PM -0600, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
> Hey Owen, I like it a lot.
> 
> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:
> 
> > Does any here use ​Academia.edu​?
> >
> > They are maturing slowly but surely and I'm wondering if they're 
> > soon to be the LinkedIn for published papers.
> >
> > They recently sent an invite to have your own page, and I wondered 
> > if it was worth it, or maybe scamy/phishy.
> >
> >-- Owen
> >
> > [image: Inline image 1]
> >
> > 
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> > cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe 
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy emergentdiplomacy.org Santa 
> Fe, New Mexico, USA
> 
> Visiting Professor in Integrative Peacebuilding Saint Paul University 
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> 
> merlelefk...@gmail.com <merlelef...@gmail.com>
> mobile:  (303) 859-5609
> skype:  merle.lelfkoff2



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Re: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

[Nick Thompson]

I cast my lot with R. G., and I am not at all sure of my decision.  

 

They are such BONEHEADS!

 

See, 
https://www.researchgate.net/project/HELPING-RESEARCH-GATE-TO-FULFILL-ITS-PROMISE
 If you clink the links, you will see 30 or so suggestions for improvement 
which they will not humble themselves to speak to, let alone make any changes.  

 

My feeling, when I scanned it a few moss ago, was that Academe wasn’t any more 
imaginative. 

 

Nice graphic though. 

 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 10:48 AM
To: Wedtech <wedt...@redfish.com>; Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: [FRIAM] ​Academia.edu​

 

Does any here use ​Academia.edu​? 

 

They are maturing slowly but surely and I'm wondering if they're soon to be the 
LinkedIn for published papers. 

 

They recently sent an invite to have your own page, and I wondered if it was 
worth it, or maybe scamy/phishy.

 

   -- Owen

 




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