Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang
I'd forgotten about this until the release yesterday: https://joinbookwyrm.com/ On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Thanks, Glen. It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself. Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them. Ditto for video and audio recordings and other objects of public interest. I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too often spotty reviews... I don't provide many nor particularly good reviews myself, so I've no room to complain really. So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url" point. It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done the work to understand how new entries are made... are they always required to be made by a citizen of the community who is NOT affiliated with the book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books I seek in Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when their book-description (and cross links to related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that is also spotty. I use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are reading and what *they* think of their reads. The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by private interests (even public corporations are private interests) is disturbing (FB <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)... Twitter->BoringCo, etc) Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos. Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math to art students. She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month. Her definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she expands as "the logical study of the logical study of logical things." Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to index on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering price in every available format. I found a pdf on the internets. It's details the history of working out the chemical identity of water. Two themes are that 1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often change in anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often multiple acceptable answers to scientific questions. These are possibly consequences of being a realisitic realist. Interesting set of recursions... we CS types tend to love our arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like double-negatives, and Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical logicologoy of logics and realistic realists are ... *special*? While some may prefer "turtles all the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices? - Steve PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech" on the first reading of this thread. -- rec -- On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen wrote: There. I fixed that for you. 8^D On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote: > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book. > https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222 > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224> > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022. > > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra basic. > https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389 > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress > > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again. Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature from thermal confusion. > https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384 > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022. > > -- rec -- -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru
Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang
On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: Thanks, Glen. It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself. Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them. Ditto for video and audio recordings and other objects of public interest. I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too often spotty reviews... I don't provide many nor particularly good reviews myself, so I've no room to complain really. So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url" point. It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done the work to understand how new entries are made... are they always required to be made by a citizen of the community who is NOT affiliated with the book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books I seek in Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when their book-description (and cross links to related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that is also spotty. I use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are reading and what *they* think of their reads. The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by private interests (even public corporations are private interests) is disturbing (FB <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)... Twitter->BoringCo, etc) Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos. Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math to art students. She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month. Her definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she expands as "the logical study of the logical study of logical things." Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to index on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering price in every available format. I found a pdf on the internets. It's details the history of working out the chemical identity of water. Two themes are that 1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often change in anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often multiple acceptable answers to scientific questions. These are possibly consequences of being a realisitic realist. Interesting set of recursions... we CS types tend to love our arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like double-negatives, and Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical logicologoy of logics and realistic realists are ... *special*? While some may prefer "turtles all the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices? - Steve PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech" on the first reading of this thread. -- rec -- On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen wrote: There. I fixed that for you. 8^D On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote: > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book. > https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222 > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224> > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022. > > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra basic. > https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389 > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress > > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again. Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature from thermal confusion. > https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384 > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022. > > -- rec -- -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021
Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang
Thanks, Glen. It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself. Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them. Ditto for video and audio recordings and other objects of public interest. Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos. Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math to art students. She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month. Her definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she expands as "the logical study of the logical study of logical things." Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to index on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering price in every available format. I found a pdf on the internets. It's details the history of working out the chemical identity of water. Two themes are that 1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often change in anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often multiple acceptable answers to scientific questions. These are possibly consequences of being a realisitic realist. -- rec -- On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen wrote: > There. I fixed that for you. 8^D > > On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote: > > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books > of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book. > > > > > https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222 > > > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224> > > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category > Theory, and Life, published October 2022. > > > > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra > basic. > > > > > https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389 > > > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress > > > > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along > the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again. Poetic > justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over > the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature from > thermal confusion. > > > > > https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384 > > > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy > of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022. > > > > -- rec -- > > -- > ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang
There. I fixed that for you. 8^D On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote: Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book. https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222 Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224> Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022. A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra basic. https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389 Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again. Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature from thermal confusion. https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384 Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022. -- rec -- -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
[FRIAM] books by cheng and chang
Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book. https://www.amazon.com/Joy-Abstraction-Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224 Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022. A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra basic. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195171276/ Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again. Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature from thermal confusion. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BG8XX7MM Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022. -- rec -- -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
