Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-16 Thread Brent Auble
Actually, here's another good overview of the scam with suggestions about what 
to do:

https://windowssecrets.com/top-story/security-alert-bogus-tech-support-phone-calls/


Brent



 From: Russell Standish 
To: Brent Auble ; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee 
Group  
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?
 
Thanks. I think it was the middle article I read.



On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 01:22:57AM -0700, Brent Auble wrote:
> Here are some links to the person you're likely thinking of (arranged 
> chronologically):
> 
> Anatomy of a virus call centre scam
> http://www.troyhunt.com/2011/10/anatomy-of-virus-call-centre-scam.html
> 
> Scamming the scammers – catching the virus call centre scammers red-handed
> http://www.troyhunt.com/2012/02/scamming-scammers-catching-virus-call.html
> 
> Interview with the man behind Comantra, the “cold call virus scammers”
> http://www.troyhunt.com/2012/05/interview-with-man-behind-comantra-cold.html
> 
> 
> And then, of course, there's Snopes:
> http://www.snopes.com/fraud/telephone/microsoft.asp
> 
> 
> Sadly, I haven't gotten one of these calls yet, but then again, I usually 
> don't answer calls from numbers I don't recognize.  I'd enjoy wasting their 
> time, since that's all that can really be done to punish them.
> 
> Brent
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Russell Standish 
> To: friam@redfish.com 
> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:21 AM
> Subject: [FRIAM]  A new kind of pfishing?
>  
> We've had these sorts of calls in Australia for last 2-3 years. My
> wife had fun playing sport with one about 6 months ago. I usually
> hang up straight away - like Doug said, there was no point mentioning
> that we're a Linux (mostly) household.
> 
> I remember reading a blog by an internet security consultant, who spun
> up a virtual machine whilst on the phone, and let them into it, just
> to see what they did. Needless to say, they were not particularly
> sophisticated, and hang up immediately he revealed to them how he'd
> conned them.
> 
> I don't have a reference, and Google not really helping at present...
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:55:42PM -0600, Nicholas  Thompson wrote:
> > Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
> > sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
> > messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
> > number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
> > to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them,
> > I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can
> > imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Does anybody recognize this? 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > N
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Nicholas S. Thompson
> > 
> > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> > 
> > Clark University
> > 
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
> > 
> > http://www.cusf.org <http://www.cusf.org/> 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> 
> > 
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> 
> 
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> Principal, High Performance Coders
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> 
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-16 Thread Owen Densmore
Glad we discussed this, its new to me and pretty interesting!  Thans Nick.

   -- Owen

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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-16 Thread Brent Auble
Here are some links to the person you're likely thinking of (arranged 
chronologically):

Anatomy of a virus call centre scam
http://www.troyhunt.com/2011/10/anatomy-of-virus-call-centre-scam.html

Scamming the scammers – catching the virus call centre scammers red-handed
http://www.troyhunt.com/2012/02/scamming-scammers-catching-virus-call.html

Interview with the man behind Comantra, the “cold call virus scammers”
http://www.troyhunt.com/2012/05/interview-with-man-behind-comantra-cold.html


And then, of course, there's Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/fraud/telephone/microsoft.asp


Sadly, I haven't gotten one of these calls yet, but then again, I usually don't 
answer calls from numbers I don't recognize.  I'd enjoy wasting their time, 
since that's all that can really be done to punish them.

Brent



 From: Russell Standish 
To: friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:21 AM
Subject: [FRIAM]  A new kind of pfishing?
 
We've had these sorts of calls in Australia for last 2-3 years. My
wife had fun playing sport with one about 6 months ago. I usually
hang up straight away - like Doug said, there was no point mentioning
that we're a Linux (mostly) household.

I remember reading a blog by an internet security consultant, who spun
up a virtual machine whilst on the phone, and let them into it, just
to see what they did. Needless to say, they were not particularly
sophisticated, and hang up immediately he revealed to them how he'd
conned them.

I don't have a reference, and Google not really helping at present...

Cheers

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:55:42PM -0600, Nicholas  Thompson wrote:
> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?  
> 
>  
> 
> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them,
> I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can
> imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.  
> 
>  
> 
> Does anybody recognize this? 
> 
>  
> 
> N
> 
>  
> 
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> 
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> 
> Clark University
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
> 
> http://www.cusf.org  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 

> 
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University of New South Wales          http://www.hpcoders.com.au




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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Douglas Roberts
The same, I'm afraid.


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Sarbajit Roy  wrote:

> Would that be Vice Admiral George Nanos of "cowboys" and "butthead" fame?
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
>
>> Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and you have the perfect
>> recipe!
>>
>> (Old, inside joke, I'm afraid).
>>
>> --Doug
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sarbajit Roy  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steve
>>>
>>> I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably
>>> with little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology.
>>> Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).
>>>
>>> Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my
>>> friends to devise a special scam for him involving peacocks and an Android
>>> app.
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Steve Smith  wrote:
>>>
  Sarbajit -

 And here we thought it was you!

 Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and
 tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his
 credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...

 We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering
 stuff online...  Do you think he's gullible enough?

 - Steve


  This scam has been around for years


 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres


  On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts >>> > wrote:

> I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly
> accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected 
> with
> a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.
>
>  No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been
> fun.
>
>  --Doug
>
>
>  On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>   Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?
>>
>>
>>
>> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
>> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
>> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have 
>> the
>> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
>> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
>> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, 
>> but
>> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anybody recognize this?
>>
>>
>>
>> N
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>> http://www.cusf.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
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>>
>
>
>
>  --
>  *Doug Roberts
> d...@parrot-farm.net*
> *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*
> *
> 505-455-7333 - Office
> 505-672-8213 - Mobile*
>
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Would that be Vice Admiral George Nanos of "cowboys" and "butthead" fame?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

> Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and you have the perfect
> recipe!
>
> (Old, inside joke, I'm afraid).
>
> --Doug
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sarbajit Roy  wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve
>>
>> I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably
>> with little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology.
>> Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).
>>
>> Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my
>> friends to devise a special scam for him involving peacocks and an Android
>> app.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Steve Smith  wrote:
>>
>>>  Sarbajit -
>>>
>>> And here we thought it was you!
>>>
>>> Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and
>>> tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his
>>> credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...
>>>
>>> We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering
>>> stuff online...  Do you think he's gullible enough?
>>>
>>> - Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>  This scam has been around for years
>>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly
 accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with
 a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

  No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been
 fun.

  --Doug


  On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
 nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>   Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?
>
>
>
> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.
>
>
>
> Does anybody recognize this?
>
>
>
> N
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> http://www.cusf.org
>
>
>
>
>
>  
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> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
>



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 d...@parrot-farm.net*
 *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*
 *
 505-455-7333 - Office
 505-672-8213 - Mobile*

 
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>>>
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> * 
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Douglas Roberts
Throw in a US Navy Admiral (Retired) Sarbajit, and you have the perfect
recipe!

(Old, inside joke, I'm afraid).

--Doug


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Sarbajit Roy  wrote:

> Hi Steve
>
> I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably
> with little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology.
> Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).
>
> Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my
> friends to devise a special scam for him involving peacocks and an Android
> app.
>
> Sarbajit
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Steve Smith  wrote:
>
>>  Sarbajit -
>>
>> And here we thought it was you!
>>
>> Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and tell
>> him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his credit
>> card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...
>>
>> We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering
>> stuff online...  Do you think he's gullible enough?
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>
>>  This scam has been around for years
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres
>>
>>
>>  On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly
>>> accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with
>>> a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.
>>>
>>>  No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been
>>> fun.
>>>
>>>  --Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
>>> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
   Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?



 I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
 sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
 messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
 number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
 to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
 them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
 I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.



 Does anybody recognize this?



 N



 Nicholas S. Thompson

 Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

 Clark University

 http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 http://www.cusf.org





  
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>>>
>>>
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>>> d...@parrot-farm.net*
>>> *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*
>>> *
>>> 505-455-7333 - Office
>>> 505-672-8213 - Mobile*
>>>
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
Hi Steve

I must mention that these scamsters target victims aged 50+ presumably with
little knowledge of computers and under-informed of human psychology.
Probably picked the wrong bunch at FRIAM :-).

Doug (from what I observe) takes care of himself very well. I'll ask my
friends to devise a special scam for him involving peacocks and an Android
app.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Steve Smith  wrote:

>  Sarbajit -
>
> And here we thought it was you!
>
> Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and tell
> him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his credit
> card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...
>
> We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering
> stuff online...  Do you think he's gullible enough?
>
> - Steve
>
>
>  This scam has been around for years
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres
>
>
>  On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
>
>> I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented
>> people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus,
>> but the callers' numbers were blocked.
>>
>>  No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.
>>
>>  --Doug
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
>> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>   Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
>>> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
>>> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
>>> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
>>> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
>>> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
>>> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anybody recognize this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> N
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>>
>>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>>
>>> Clark University
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>>
>>> http://www.cusf.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
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>>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  *Doug Roberts
>> d...@parrot-farm.net*
>> *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*
>> *
>> 505-455-7333 - Office
>> 505-672-8213 - Mobile*
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Steve Smith

Sarbajit -

And here we thought it was you!

Pranking Nick is just mean, but maybe you could give Doug a ring and 
tell him you can fix his Bluetooth/WiFi problem if he just gives you his 
credit card and bank account numbers and the keys to his BMW Motorcycle...


We could all have a party and help you spend out his accounts ordering 
stuff online...  Do you think he's gullible enough?


- Steve



This scam has been around for years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts > wrote:


I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly
accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was
infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have
been fun.

--Doug


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson
mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net>>
wrote:

Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?

I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong
Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was
sending error messages to the network and offering to help me
correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would
report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step
involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I
assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,,
but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen
for.

Does anybody recognize this?

N

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/


http://www.cusf.org 



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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Steve Smith

Ed-

Cutting in before Doug gets there...

It sounds like you get *all* the fun!

Maybe I should answer my phone even when I don't recognize the phone 
number... that is MY solution...  it works amazingly well, though the 
false positives do irritate my friends and colleagues, though that is 
what voicemail, txt, e-mail, etc. are for.


My mother recently moved into an assisted living apartment and inherited 
the phone number that came with the apartment.  The man who lived there 
before her apparently got scammed out of quite a bit of money (4 figures 
anyway) by phone and his number went out "on the wire" so she gets a 
*lot* of calls from these losers... she seems immune to most of it, but 
you never know when someone will get past her intuition... she's 86 and 
recently widowed.  Her Scotch blood and Appalachian roots seem to be 
working for her so far.   I don't understand why she answers the 
phone... a lifetime of habit I guess.


- Steve

Hanging up may not always be the best solution.

A while ago my wife was getting pornographic calls. I could tell it 
was the crank caller since he asked for her as Rose instead of Rose 
Mary. When I asked who was calling he got quite huffy and said he 
wasn't calling for me, he was calling for Rose. So I told him I'd get 
her and put the phone down. An hour later I could still hear his heavy 
breathing. But he finally gave up waiting and never called again.


We had a similar experience with prostitutes calling our room in 
Kazakstan claiming to be students studying English but that's another 
story and was more fun.


Ed
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(ARTS Lab)

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On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:


"Microsoft" is usually all it takes to get me to hang up as well.


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Gillian Densmore 
mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when
could bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is
probably scurring around I doubt that the kind of person that
goes to or is on the FRIAM list is his mark.


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel mailto:an...@cs.unm.edu>> wrote:

I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the
impression that he was working for Microsoft and they were
doing the monitoring. He got very flustered when I pointed
out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run Windows.
That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had
to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging
up. Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him
to the next one on his robodialer.

Ed
__

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Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science
Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136  (home)an...@cs.unm.edu

505-453-4944  (cell)
http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel 


On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:


Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?
I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a
strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my
computer was sending error messages to the network and
offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my
phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and
connect it to them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad
at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle
line that I might have fallen for.
Does anybody recognize this?
N
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

http://www.cusf.org 

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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Sarbajit Roy
This scam has been around for years

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/18/phone-scam-india-call-centres


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

> I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented
> people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus,
> but the callers' numbers were blocked.
>
> No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.
>
> --Doug
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?  
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
>> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
>> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
>> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
>> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
>> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
>> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.  
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Does anybody recognize this? 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> N
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>> http://www.cusf.org
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Bruce Sherwood
A nice variant is this: Many years ago a friend reported getting a sales
call about window blinds and told the salesman that oh yes she was very
interested in this and please hold the line while she goes and makes some
measurements of her windows..

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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Edward Angel
Hanging up may not always be the best solution. 

A while ago my wife was getting pornographic calls. I could tell it was the 
crank caller since he asked for her as Rose instead of Rose Mary. When I asked 
who was calling he got quite huffy and said he wasn't calling for me, he was 
calling for Rose. So I told him I'd get her and put the phone down. An hour 
later I could still hear his heavy breathing. But he finally gave up waiting 
and never called again.

We had a similar experience with prostitutes calling our room in Kazakstan 
claiming to be students studying English but that's another story and was more 
fun.

Ed
__

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Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel


On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

> "Microsoft" is usually all it takes to get me to hang up as well.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Gillian Densmore  
> wrote:
> Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could 
> bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring 
> around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list 
> is his mark.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel  wrote:
> I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that 
> he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very 
> flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run 
> Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had to 
> shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up. Actually I 
> probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one on his 
> robodialer.
> 
> Ed
> __
> 
> Ed Angel
> 
> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
> 
> 1017 Sierra Pinon
> Santa Fe, NM 87501
> 505-984-0136 (home)   an...@cs.unm.edu
> 505-453-4944 (cell)   http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel
> 
> 
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> 
>> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing? 
>>  
>> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian 
>> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error 
>> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the 
>> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it 
>> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, 
>> I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can 
>> imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for. 
>>  
>> Does anybody recognize this?
>>  
>> N
>>  
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>> Clark University
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>> http://www.cusf.org
>>  
>>  
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Douglas Roberts
"Microsoft" is usually all it takes to get me to hang up as well.


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

> Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could
> bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring
> around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list
> is his mark.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel  wrote:
>
>> I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression
>> that he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He
>> got very flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and
>> didn't run Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I
>> finally had to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up.
>> Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one
>> on his robodialer.
>>
>> Ed
>>  __
>>
>> Ed Angel
>>
>> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory
>> (ARTS Lab)
>> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
>>
>> 1017 Sierra Pinon
>> Santa Fe, NM 87501
>> 505-984-0136 (home)   an...@cs.unm.edu
>> 505-453-4944 (cell)  http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel
>>
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing? 
>> ** **
>> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
>> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
>> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
>> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
>> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
>> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
>> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for. 
>> ** **
>> Does anybody recognize this?
>> ** **
>> N
>> ** **
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>> Clark University
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>> http://www.cusf.org
>> ** **
>> ** **
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Gillian Densmore
Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could
bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring
around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list
is his mark.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel  wrote:

> I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression
> that he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He
> got very flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and
> didn't run Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I
> finally had to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up.
> Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one
> on his robodialer.
>
> Ed
> __
>
> Ed Angel
>
> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory
> (ARTS Lab)
> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico
>
> 1017 Sierra Pinon
> Santa Fe, NM 87501
> 505-984-0136 (home)   an...@cs.unm.edu
> 505-453-4944 (cell)  http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>
> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing? 
> ** **
> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for. 
> ** **
> Does anybody recognize this?
> ** **
> N
> ** **
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
> http://www.cusf.org
> ** **
> ** **
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Gillian Densmore
lol if you do record the conversation for our amusement (as well as good
blog material).

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

> I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented
> people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus,
> but the callers' numbers were blocked.
>
> No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.
>
> --Doug
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
> nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?  
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
>> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
>> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
>> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
>> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
>> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
>> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.  
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Does anybody recognize this? 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> N
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Nicholas S. Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>>
>> http://www.cusf.org
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Edward Angel
I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that he 
was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very 
flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run 
Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had to shut 
him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up. Actually I probably 
didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one on his robodialer.

Ed
__

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Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel


On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing? 
>  
> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian 
> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error 
> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the 
> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it 
> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, 
> I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can 
> imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for. 
>  
> Does anybody recognize this?
>  
> N
>  
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
> http://www.cusf.org
>  
>  
> 
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Gillian Densmore
YES I've gotten calls like that in the past from some people from china
someplace trying to claim they work for MS. I don't know who to report them
to. It's not just fishing it's "social engineering" (aka fraud and lying)-
in my case the guy was all panicky that I might have malware and if I let
him run my computer he'll fix it. I didn't let the guy get on with his
sales pitch before hanging up on him. I run a regular virus sweep and
malware sweep. I think he gave up after the third time I hung up on him.
Why would I trust some complete stranger calling up going on and on about
how many evil things might be on my computer-why would I trust someone who
wasn't recomended to me by a someone who I trust to controll my
computer-answer: I don't.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?  
>
> ** **
>
> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.  
>
> ** **
>
> Does anybody recognize this? 
>
> ** **
>
> N
>
> ** **
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
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Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?

2013-03-15 Thread Douglas Roberts
I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented
people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus,
but the callers' numbers were blocked.

No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun.

--Doug


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson <
nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing?  
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> I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian
> sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error
> messages to the network and offering to help me correct them.  (I have the
> number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it
> to.)  The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to
> them, I assume.   These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but
> I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for.  
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