Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
Sam is back in the for-profit and the non-profit board is gone. inversion of control: the tail wagging the dog in corporate governance [image: image.png] https://openai.com/our-structure the flow of governance control, like water in New Mexico, goes toward money _ stephen.gue...@simtable.com stephengue...@fas.harvard.edu Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Lab <https://hwpi.harvard.edu/eps-visualization-research-laboratory/home> mobile: (505)577-5828 On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:42 AM Pieter Steenekamp < piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote: > Hot off the press; Sam is going back to OpenAI. > A new board has been appointed. > It seems like Sam got what he wanted. > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 7:22 am Pieter Steenekamp, < > piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote: > >> Background >> OpenAI is actually two companies. The original not for profit parent >> company and the for profit subsidiary. >> The parent, not for profit, appoints the board of the for profit >> subsidiary and does not have a fudiciary obligation towards the financial >> well-being of the company, only towards humanity; to ensure that AI is >> developed for the good of humanity. >> On Friday the board fired the CEO, Sam Altman, without giving reasons. >> Since then Sam got an offer from Microsoft to join them and start a new >> AI Microsoft subsidiary. Sam is reluctant to take it, he seems to think >> that will kill OpenAi. >> 95 percent of OpenAI employees signed a letter that if Sam goes to >> Microsoft they will join him. Microsoft said they will accomdate them. >> Now we are waiting - will OpenAI take Sam back? Will Sam and 95 percent >> of OpenAI's employees join MS? >> Or is there something else going to happen? >> A Netflix movie couldn't have more drama and suspens. >> >> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 2:14 am Marcus Daniels, >> wrote: >> >>> >>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels < >>> mar...@snoutfarm.com> >>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:00 PM >>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Open AI >>> >>> Rumors I have read: >>> >>> 1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth fund from >>> Saudi Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor. And this was one example of >>> him working side gigs not related to the Open AI mission. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too expensive, and >>> the money lost per query is becoming too expensive, even for Microsoft’s >>> hosting of OpenAI. >>> >>> >>> >>> 3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general intelligence and >>> Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Friam on behalf of Pietro Terna < >>> pietro.te...@unito.it> >>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM >>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject: *[FRIAM] Open AI >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI soap opera or >>> drama? >>> >>> Best, Pietro >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> "It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep >>> truth." Neils Bohr. >>> >>> >>> >>> A https://terna.to.it/breviArticoli.html riporto dei miei brevi articoli su >>> temi di attualità. >>> >>> Asterischi da Verso Itaca a >>> https://verso-itaca.it/asterischi-da-verso-itaca/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Home page: https://terna.to.it Twitter: https://twitter.com/@pietroterna >>> >>> Mastodon: https://mastodon.uno/@PietroTerna >>> >>> >>> >>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogs
Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
This Washington Post article brings up some interesting issues. For instance, I didn't know that Altman considered Thiel a mentor. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/11/22/sam-altman-fired-y-combinator-paul-graham/ -- rec -- On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 6:38 AM Pietro Terna wrote: > Many thanks, Pietro > > Il 22/11/23 08:49, Pieter Steenekamp ha scritto: > > > https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727207458324848883?t=Dms3joF7SRmHQQ--nGVv8w=19 > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 9:42 am Pieter Steenekamp, < > piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote: > >> Hot off the press; Sam is going back to OpenAI. >> A new board has been appointed. >> It seems like Sam got what he wanted. >> >> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 7:22 am Pieter Steenekamp, < >> piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote: >> >>> Background >>> OpenAI is actually two companies. The original not for profit parent >>> company and the for profit subsidiary. >>> The parent, not for profit, appoints the board of the for profit >>> subsidiary and does not have a fudiciary obligation towards the financial >>> well-being of the company, only towards humanity; to ensure that AI is >>> developed for the good of humanity. >>> On Friday the board fired the CEO, Sam Altman, without giving reasons. >>> Since then Sam got an offer from Microsoft to join them and start a new >>> AI Microsoft subsidiary. Sam is reluctant to take it, he seems to think >>> that will kill OpenAi. >>> 95 percent of OpenAI employees signed a letter that if Sam goes to >>> Microsoft they will join him. Microsoft said they will accomdate them. >>> Now we are waiting - will OpenAI take Sam back? Will Sam and 95 percent >>> of OpenAI's employees join MS? >>> Or is there something else going to happen? >>> A Netflix movie couldn't have more drama and suspens. >>> >>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 2:14 am Marcus Daniels, >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels < >>>> mar...@snoutfarm.com> >>>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:00 PM >>>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>>> friam@redfish.com> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Open AI >>>> >>>> Rumors I have read: >>>> >>>> 1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth fund from >>>> Saudi Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor. And this was one example of >>>> him working side gigs not related to the Open AI mission. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too expensive, and >>>> the money lost per query is becoming too expensive, even for Microsoft’s >>>> hosting of OpenAI. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general intelligence and >>>> Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Friam on behalf of Pietro Terna < >>>> pietro.te...@unito.it> >>>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM >>>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>>> friam@redfish.com> >>>> *Subject: *[FRIAM] Open AI >>>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI soap opera or >>>> drama? >>>> >>>> Best, Pietro >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep >>>> truth." Neils Bohr. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A https://terna.to.it/breviArticoli.html riporto dei miei brevi articoli >>>> su temi di attualità. >>>> >>>> Asterischi da Verso Itaca a >>>> https://verso-itaca.it/asterischi-da-verso-itaca/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Home page: https://terna.to.it Twitter: https://twitter.com/@pietroterna >>>> >>>> Mastodon: https://mastodon.uno/@PietroTerna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. -
Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
Many thanks, Pietro
Il 22/11/23 08:49, Pieter Steenekamp ha scritto:
https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727207458324848883?t=Dms3joF7SRmHQQ--nGVv8w=19
<https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727207458324848883?t=Dms3joF7SRmHQQ--nGVv8w=19>
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 9:42 am Pieter Steenekamp,
wrote:
Hot off the press; Sam is going back to OpenAI.
A new board has been appointed.
It seems like Sam got what he wanted.
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 7:22 am Pieter Steenekamp,
wrote:
Background
OpenAI is actually two companies. The original not for profit
parent company and the for profit subsidiary.
The parent, not for profit, appoints the board of the for
profit subsidiary and does not have a fudiciary obligation
towards the financial well-being of the company, only towards
humanity; to ensure that AI is developed for the good of humanity.
On Friday the board fired the CEO, Sam Altman, without giving
reasons.
Since then Sam got an offer from Microsoft to join them and
start a new AI Microsoft subsidiary. Sam is reluctant to take
it, he seems to think that will kill OpenAi.
95 percent of OpenAI employees signed a letter that if Sam
goes to Microsoft they will join him. Microsoft said they will
accomdate them.
Now we are waiting - will OpenAI take Sam back? Will Sam and
95 percent of OpenAI's employees join MS?
Or is there something else going to happen?
A Netflix movie couldn't have more drama and suspens.
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 2:14 am Marcus Daniels,
wrote:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share
<https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share>
*From: *Friam on behalf of
Marcus Daniels
*Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:00 PM
*To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
*Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
Rumors I have read:
1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth
fund from Saudi Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor. And
this was one example of him working side gigs not related
to the Open AI mission.
2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too
expensive, and the money lost per query is becoming too
expensive, even for Microsoft’s hosting of OpenAI.
3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general
intelligence and Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes.
*From: *Friam on behalf of
Pietro Terna
*Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM
*To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
*Subject: *[FRIAM] Open AI
Dear All,
can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI
soap opera or drama?
Best, Pietro
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Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
https://twitter.com/sama/status/1727207458324848883?t=Dms3joF7SRmHQQ--nGVv8w=19 On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 9:42 am Pieter Steenekamp, wrote: > Hot off the press; Sam is going back to OpenAI. > A new board has been appointed. > It seems like Sam got what he wanted. > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 7:22 am Pieter Steenekamp, < > piet...@randcontrols.co.za> wrote: > >> Background >> OpenAI is actually two companies. The original not for profit parent >> company and the for profit subsidiary. >> The parent, not for profit, appoints the board of the for profit >> subsidiary and does not have a fudiciary obligation towards the financial >> well-being of the company, only towards humanity; to ensure that AI is >> developed for the good of humanity. >> On Friday the board fired the CEO, Sam Altman, without giving reasons. >> Since then Sam got an offer from Microsoft to join them and start a new >> AI Microsoft subsidiary. Sam is reluctant to take it, he seems to think >> that will kill OpenAi. >> 95 percent of OpenAI employees signed a letter that if Sam goes to >> Microsoft they will join him. Microsoft said they will accomdate them. >> Now we are waiting - will OpenAI take Sam back? Will Sam and 95 percent >> of OpenAI's employees join MS? >> Or is there something else going to happen? >> A Netflix movie couldn't have more drama and suspens. >> >> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 2:14 am Marcus Daniels, >> wrote: >> >>> >>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels < >>> mar...@snoutfarm.com> >>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:00 PM >>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Open AI >>> >>> Rumors I have read: >>> >>> 1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth fund from >>> Saudi Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor. And this was one example of >>> him working side gigs not related to the Open AI mission. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too expensive, and >>> the money lost per query is becoming too expensive, even for Microsoft’s >>> hosting of OpenAI. >>> >>> >>> >>> 3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general intelligence and >>> Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Friam on behalf of Pietro Terna < >>> pietro.te...@unito.it> >>> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM >>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject: *[FRIAM] Open AI >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI soap opera or >>> drama? >>> >>> Best, Pietro >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> "It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep >>> truth." Neils Bohr. >>> >>> >>> >>> A https://terna.to.it/breviArticoli.html riporto dei miei brevi articoli su >>> temi di attualità. >>> >>> Asterischi da Verso Itaca a >>> https://verso-itaca.it/asterischi-da-verso-itaca/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Home page: https://terna.to.it Twitter: https://twitter.com/@pietroterna >>> >>> Mastodon: https://mastodon.uno/@PietroTerna >>> >>> >>> >>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
Hot off the press; Sam is going back to OpenAI. A new board has been appointed. It seems like Sam got what he wanted. On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 7:22 am Pieter Steenekamp, wrote: > Background > OpenAI is actually two companies. The original not for profit parent > company and the for profit subsidiary. > The parent, not for profit, appoints the board of the for profit > subsidiary and does not have a fudiciary obligation towards the financial > well-being of the company, only towards humanity; to ensure that AI is > developed for the good of humanity. > On Friday the board fired the CEO, Sam Altman, without giving reasons. > Since then Sam got an offer from Microsoft to join them and start a new AI > Microsoft subsidiary. Sam is reluctant to take it, he seems to think that > will kill OpenAi. > 95 percent of OpenAI employees signed a letter that if Sam goes to > Microsoft they will join him. Microsoft said they will accomdate them. > Now we are waiting - will OpenAI take Sam back? Will Sam and 95 percent of > OpenAI's employees join MS? > Or is there something else going to happen? > A Netflix movie couldn't have more drama and suspens. > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 2:14 am Marcus Daniels, wrote: > >> >> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share >> >> >> >> *From: *Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels < >> mar...@snoutfarm.com> >> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:00 PM >> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Open AI >> >> Rumors I have read: >> >> 1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth fund from Saudi >> Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor. And this was one example of him >> working side gigs not related to the Open AI mission. >> >> >> >> 2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too expensive, and >> the money lost per query is becoming too expensive, even for Microsoft’s >> hosting of OpenAI. >> >> >> >> 3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general intelligence and >> Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes. >> >> >> >> *From: *Friam on behalf of Pietro Terna < >> pietro.te...@unito.it> >> *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM >> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Subject: *[FRIAM] Open AI >> >> Dear All, >> >> can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI soap opera or >> drama? >> >> Best, Pietro >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> "It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep >> truth." Neils Bohr. >> >> >> >> A https://terna.to.it/breviArticoli.html riporto dei miei brevi articoli su >> temi di attualità. >> >> Asterischi da Verso Itaca a https://verso-itaca.it/asterischi-da-verso-itaca/ >> >> >> >> Home page: https://terna.to.it Twitter: https://twitter.com/@pietroterna >> >> Mastodon: https://mastodon.uno/@PietroTerna >> >> >> >> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: 5/2017 thru present >> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
Background OpenAI is actually two companies. The original not for profit parent company and the for profit subsidiary. The parent, not for profit, appoints the board of the for profit subsidiary and does not have a fudiciary obligation towards the financial well-being of the company, only towards humanity; to ensure that AI is developed for the good of humanity. On Friday the board fired the CEO, Sam Altman, without giving reasons. Since then Sam got an offer from Microsoft to join them and start a new AI Microsoft subsidiary. Sam is reluctant to take it, he seems to think that will kill OpenAi. 95 percent of OpenAI employees signed a letter that if Sam goes to Microsoft they will join him. Microsoft said they will accomdate them. Now we are waiting - will OpenAI take Sam back? Will Sam and 95 percent of OpenAI's employees join MS? Or is there something else going to happen? A Netflix movie couldn't have more drama and suspens. On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, 2:14 am Marcus Daniels, wrote: > > https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share > > > > *From: *Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels < > mar...@snoutfarm.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:00 PM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Open AI > > Rumors I have read: > > 1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth fund from Saudi > Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor. And this was one example of him > working side gigs not related to the Open AI mission. > > > > 2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too expensive, and > the money lost per query is becoming too expensive, even for Microsoft’s > hosting of OpenAI. > > > > 3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general intelligence and > Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes. > > > > *From: *Friam on behalf of Pietro Terna < > pietro.te...@unito.it> > *Date: *Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject: *[FRIAM] Open AI > > Dear All, > > can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI soap opera or > drama? > > Best, Pietro > > > -- > > > > "It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep > truth." Neils Bohr. > > > > A https://terna.to.it/breviArticoli.html riporto dei miei brevi articoli su > temi di attualità. > > Asterischi da Verso Itaca a https://verso-itaca.it/asterischi-da-verso-itaca/ > > > > Home page: https://terna.to.it Twitter: https://twitter.com/@pietroterna > > Mastodon: https://mastodon.uno/@PietroTerna > > > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/11/openai-ilya-sutskever-sam-altman-fired/676072/?utm_source=copy-link_medium=social_campaign=share From: Friam on behalf of Marcus Daniels Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:00 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Open AI Rumors I have read: 1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth fund from Saudi Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor. And this was one example of him working side gigs not related to the Open AI mission. 2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too expensive, and the money lost per query is becoming too expensive, even for Microsoft’s hosting of OpenAI. 3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general intelligence and Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes. From: Friam on behalf of Pietro Terna Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Open AI Dear All, can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI soap opera or drama? Best, Pietro -- "It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep truth." Neils Bohr. A https://terna.to.it/breviArticoli.html riporto dei miei brevi articoli su temi di attualità. Asterischi da Verso Itaca a https://verso-itaca.it/asterischi-da-verso-itaca/ Home page: https://terna.to.it Twitter: https://twitter.com/@pietroterna Mastodon: https://mastodon.uno/@PietroTerna -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
Re: [FRIAM] Open AI
Rumors I have read: 1) Sam Altman was looking for money from sovereign wealth fund from Saudi Arabia to fund an NVIDIA competitor. And this was one example of him working side gigs not related to the Open AI mission. 2) That the energy demands of LLMs on Azure are just too expensive, and the money lost per query is becoming too expensive, even for Microsoft’s hosting of OpenAI. 3) That there was a breakthrough in artificial general intelligence and Sam Altman wouldn’t press the brakes. From: Friam on behalf of Pietro Terna Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 2:29 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Open AI Dear All, can you explain to an old Italian friend the Open AI soap opera or drama? Best, Pietro -- "It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep truth." Neils Bohr. A https://terna.to.it/breviArticoli.html riporto dei miei brevi articoli su temi di attualità. Asterischi da Verso Itaca a https://verso-itaca.it/asterischi-da-verso-itaca/ Home page: https://terna.to.it Twitter: https://twitter.com/@pietroterna Mastodon: https://mastodon.uno/@PietroTerna -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
