Re: [Futurework] that wild and crazy Ahmadinejad
Whatever views I have or had on the Pres. of Iran's visit should not have been posted to FW. See my recent posting to FW on this. I agree with parts of your criticismbut will not go further since it will continue to lead us away from FW topics. Arthur From: Darryl or Natalia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:44 PM To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] that wild and crazy Ahmadinejad Arthur, This is an embarrassing piece on the part of the Globe and Mail. Far more statements made by Ahmadinejad on his invitational visit rang true, and nailed Bush and his administration squarely on the head, without being rude. Even the conservative Victoria Times Colonist printed several of his sobering quotes that represent a far more rational leader than Bush 43. Posting this just contributes to the ignorance; hi-lighting such phrases as: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's talk at Columbia University on Monday was so funny it could lead to war. is inexcusable. No, manipulators like this guy and journalists of his ilk are who sway public opinion, and it is their words which reflect war mongering propaganda that pave the ugly road to more Iraq-like invasions. How can anyone fail to remember what similar propaganda occurred to manipulate Americans to invade Iraq? How can anyone fail to observe what that war was really about, and how can anyone fail to remember that hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died because of Bush's power tripping and greed? There are over two million internally displaced civilians in Iraq because of this war and the recent surge, and about 2.5 million other Iraqi refugees who were forced to leave their homeland because of lies on the part of the Bush administration. I think that the Columbia University speech was either a set up to try to make the guy look bad, and thereby help prepare the US nation psychologically for war they don't want with Iran, or that the university president took some serious heat (for having invited the guy to campus) or serious bribes to have so rudely discredited their guest. One thing for sure: Bush would never have had the guts to visit a university in Iran under similar circumstances. Apart from the fact that some might try to kill him, Bush has way, way more to hide than Iran's leader. Bush is one stinkin' coward and mass murderer. To accept the official version of 9/11 is one thing, but to not understand the preambles to warmongering is a whole other serious problem. Not to stop and think how the $billions spent on Iraq could have been spent to enrich lives instead of ruin them is beyond my comprehension. I understand that most people of Jewish descent are going to have problems with Ahmadinejad, but as has been pointed out, even Castro and Khrushchev got more respectful treatment on their visits to the US., the latter a parade. No doubt the Russian leader deserved it for the fact he began selling South West Russian crude secretly to the US amidst a cold war, but the Iranians aren't sharing. Arab nations' leaders enjoy respect and even protection from 9/11 prosecution because they cooperate with the US for the mutual benefits of oil, despite atrocious human rights records towards all, including women and homosexuals. The U.S. can't take on Russia, and it can't take on China, so their leaders get respect, too. Human rights aside, they're just too big. Iran's leader is being targeted because the US leaders want their oil, they want to further fatten their war-related portfolios by continuing with another war, they want control of Iran's strategic waterways and connecting oil spigots from and to other nations, and they want the dollar to remain the oil trade currency. Oh, and I almost forgot--they need a scapegoat for failing to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis. I won't take up people's time by listing the ways in which corporate America, the US government and military have stolen from Iraqi people and ensured future rights to their resources. I couldn't help but notice your postings about Swiss racial profiling. They seemed to follow Swiss Chris's postings about the other point of view around the Iranian leader's US visit. (Are you bearing in mind that the US only allowed some 500 Iraqis into the country 2001-2006, and no more than that many since the Surge?) I hope you're aware that it is you who first brought up a topic that is currently but barely directly related to the future of work. I recall that once the USS Liberty topic got too hot, you took sharp reins to steer us away from what quickly festered into a war of words. Now you have initiated another such topic. Arthur, politics is an inevitable ingredient within the future of work, and people's attitudes and beliefs are those which shape economies. Your beliefs have fueled this posting of my beliefs, and I shall conclude by saying that there won't be much of a future for work
Re: [Futurework] that wild and crazy Ahmadinejad
Arthur, This is an embarrassing piece on the part of the Globe and Mail. Far more statements made by Ahmadinejad on his invitational visit rang true, and nailed Bush and his administration squarely on the head, without being rude. Even the conservative Victoria Times Colonist printed several of his sobering quotes that represent a far more rational leader than Bush 43. Posting this just contributes to the ignorance; hi-lighting such phrases as: *Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's talk at Columbia University on Monday was so funny it could lead to war.* is inexcusable. No, manipulators like this guy and journalists of his ilk are who sway public opinion, and it is their words which reflect war mongering propaganda that pave the ugly road to more Iraq-like invasions. How can anyone fail to remember what similar propaganda occurred to manipulate Americans to invade Iraq? How can anyone fail to observe what that war was really about, and how can anyone fail to remember that hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died because of Bush's power tripping and greed? There are over two million internally displaced civilians in Iraq because of this war and the recent surge, and about 2.5 million other Iraqi refugees who were forced to leave their homeland because of lies on the part of the Bush administration. I think that the Columbia University speech was either a set up to try to make the guy look bad, and thereby help prepare the US nation psychologically for war they don't want with Iran, or that the university president took some serious heat (for having invited the guy to campus) or serious bribes to have so rudely discredited their guest. One thing for sure: Bush would never have had the guts to visit a university in Iran under similar circumstances. Apart from the fact that some might try to kill him, Bush has way, way more to hide than Iran's leader. Bush is one stinkin' coward and mass murderer. To accept the official version of 9/11 is one thing, but to not understand the preambles to warmongering is a whole other serious problem. Not to stop and think how the $billions spent on Iraq could have been spent to enrich lives instead of ruin them is beyond my comprehension. I understand that most people of Jewish descent are going to have problems with Ahmadinejad, but as has been pointed out, even Castro and Khrushchev got more respectful treatment on their visits to the US., the latter a parade. No doubt the Russian leader deserved it for the fact he began selling South West Russian crude secretly to the US amidst a cold war, but the Iranians aren't sharing. Arab nations' leaders enjoy respect and even protection from 9/11 prosecution because they cooperate with the US for the mutual benefits of oil, despite atrocious human rights records towards all, including women and homosexuals. The U.S. can't take on Russia, and it can't take on China, so their leaders get respect, too. Human rights aside, they're just too big. Iran's leader is being targeted because the US leaders want their oil, they want to further fatten their war-related portfolios by continuing with another war, they want control of Iran's strategic waterways and connecting oil spigots from and to other nations, and they want the dollar to remain the oil trade currency. Oh, and I almost forgot--they need a scapegoat for failing to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis. I won't take up people's time by listing the ways in which corporate America, the US government and military have stolen from Iraqi people and ensured future rights to their resources. I couldn't help but notice your postings about Swiss racial profiling. They seemed to follow Swiss Chris's postings about the other point of view around the Iranian leader's US visit. (Are you bearing in mind that the US only allowed some 500 Iraqis into the country 2001-2006, and no more than that many since the Surge?) I hope you're aware that it is you who first brought up a topic that is currently but barely directly related to the future of work. I recall that once the USS Liberty topic got too hot, you took sharp reins to steer us away from what quickly festered into a war of words. Now /you /have initiated another such topic. Arthur, politics is an inevitable ingredient within the future of work, and people's attitudes and beliefs are those which shape economies. Your beliefs have fueled this posting of my beliefs, and I shall conclude by saying that there won't be much of a future for work, in the US, Canada, Iraq or possibly Iran, if people continue to allow themselves to be manipulated by the few who profit by war. Natalia Kuzmyn From the Undernews yesterday at: http://prorev.com/indexa.htm ||| AHMADINEJAD: THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY Sam Smith The childish, petulant, hypocritically self-righteous and
Re: [Futurework] that wild and crazy Ahmadinejad
It's pretty sad that a major Canadian newspaper prints a zionist warmonger tirade which goes as far as basically asking for a targeted killing of a foreign president. Talk about a laugh riot -- now even homosexuals must serve as a pretext for striking Iran... The pitch about nuclear proliferation is ridiculous considering that Israel has 400 illegal nukes and the world's most silent submarines to deliver them around the globe (perhaps on a shore near you on another 9/11?). Everyone including Ahmadinejad knows that for Iran (but not Israel) to use a single nuke would be national suicide. And besides, it wouldn't make sense anyway because nuking Israel would kill his beloved Palestinians too, and he didn't ask for Israel's removal but only for regime change there. The apartheid regime of South Africa (who was good friends with Israel) was changed too, so why not the only other apartheid regime left on the planet? It is obvious that the hoax about nuclear proliferation is only a pretext to attack Iran while the real reasons are that it's the only power (besides Syria) that still stands in the way of total USraeli domination of the Middle East, it has lots of oil and it eyes the Petro-Euro. After the fraud of Powell's PowerPoint presentation and Blair's intelligence hoax, the world knows the game... Chris SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword igve. ___ Futurework mailing list Futurework@fes.uwaterloo.ca http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
