FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-13 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
Hello

I use the Task Bar and I have set it to check Maildirs in my home directory for 
new mail. When the window manager starts the Task Bar disappears after a few 
minutes, i'm assuming this is when the Maildir is first checked. 

I wondered if anyone else has experienced this problem and if so, do you know 
how I can fix it. I'm sorry but I do not know of any debugging technique to 
provide more information.

The version of fvwm I am using is 2.7.0 built using the FreeBSD port process.

Jamie



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-13 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 05:44:49PM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
 Hello
 
 I use the Task Bar and I have set it to check Maildirs in my home directory 
 for new mail. When the window manager starts the Task Bar disappears after a 
 few minutes, i'm assuming this is when the Maildir is first checked. 
 
 I wondered if anyone else has experienced this problem and if so, do you know 
 how I can fix it. I'm sorry but I do not know of any debugging technique to 
 provide more information.

You can check your $HOME/.xsession-errors (or stdout of your xserver) to see if 
any errors are spit out. Also if the process FvwmTaskBar isn't running when it 
disapeared its crashing. You are probabaly right about why its crashing, but 
will have to debug the paticulars.

For the most part FvwmTaskBar is no longer supported. If you want a task bar I 
would suggest mixing FvwmIconMan (for the task bar) + FvwmButtons as a 
container/pannel you can use to contain the start menu/clock/mail 
notification/system tray etc -- there are many examples of these floating 
around. Check the forums.

 
 The version of fvwm I am using is 2.7.0 built using the FreeBSD port process.
 

afiak fvwm is not going to continue using the stable/unstable branch split. 
Thus don't use 2.7.0 but use 2.6.1 instead (the offical branch is 2.6). Not 
sure about any paticulars on the FreeBSD port process but 2.7.0 is the same as 
the 2.6.0 release.

jaimos



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-13 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 05:44:49PM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
 Hello
 
 I use the Task Bar and I have set it to check Maildirs in my home
 directory for new mail. When the window manager starts the Task Bar
 disappears after a few minutes, i'm assuming this is when the Maildir is
 first checked. 

Anything in ~/.xsession-errors?   Is FvwmTaskBar set to AutoHide?  Ideally,
stop using it and use FvwmIconMan and FvwmButtons.

 I wondered if anyone else has experienced this problem and if so, do you
 know how I can fix it. I'm sorry but I do not know of any debugging
 technique to provide more information.

Use FvwmIconMan and FvwmButtons.  I'll be deprecating FvwmTaskBar soon
enough.  It's dead.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-13 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 07:47:10PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
 
 Anything in ~/.xsession-errors?   Is FvwmTaskBar set to AutoHide?  Ideally,
 stop using it and use FvwmIconMan and FvwmButtons.

strangely, nothing in ~/.xsession-errors. Definitely not set to
AutoHide. I'll do as you suggested and use use those two other modules,
I used to use them anyway but in a slightly different way.

Thanks to you both for your help.

Jamie



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-13 Thread elliot s

Use FvwmIconMan and FvwmButtons.  I'll be deprecating FvwmTaskBar soon
 enough.  It's dead.


Is there an example somewhere on converting fvwmtaskbar functionality
to FvwmIconMan/FvwmButtons?



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-13 Thread Jaimos Skriletz
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 05:44:07PM -0700, elliot s wrote:
 
 Use FvwmIconMan and FvwmButtons.  I'll be deprecating FvwmTaskBar soon
  enough.  It's dead.
 
 
 Is there an example somewhere on converting fvwmtaskbar functionality
 to FvwmIconMan/FvwmButtons?

Have you checked the forums for examples, fvwmforums.org?

I would search there.

Basic idea, FvwmButtons is the container. You can use it to hold the various 
parts of the taskbar you want. FvwmIconMan is the part that keeps track of 
running programs. I would first configure that, to act like the major part of 
the taskbar. After that you can add the start button and other things like 
clock/notifications by swalowing it into FvwmButtons.

jaimos