Re: Menu invoked by FvwmButtons causes a restart

2002-07-07 Thread Alex Wallis
This problem and even the core dump appears to now be fixed for me.  :)
Just letting you know...

Alex

Dominik Vogt wrote:
 
 On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 05:00:21PM +0930, Alex Wallis wrote:
  With current cvs if I issue the following command in an FvwmConsole...
 
  Style * Font shadow=2 3 SE:xft:Luxi Mono:Bold:pixelsize=14
 
  ...then click on an FvwmButtons to invoke any menu it causes fvwm to
  restart. The above command also resets all window styles such as
  TitleAtLeft etc...
 
 Don't use current cvs.  There is a core dump in Flocale.c for me.
 If you downgrade that file to the version from two days ago it
 works fine.
 
 Bye
 
 Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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CVS domivogt: * Icon handling patch.

2002-07-07 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/07/07 08:46:06

Modified files:
.  : Tag: branch-2_4 ChangeLog 
fvwm   : Tag: branch-2_4 events.c 

Log message:
* Icon handling patch.

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CVS domivogt: * Fixed NoClose option with unmapped panels in FvwmButtons.

2002-07-07 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/07/07 18:44:55

Modified files:
.  : Tag: branch-2_4 NEWS 
modules: Tag: branch-2_4 ChangeLog 
modules/FvwmButtons: Tag: branch-2_4 FvwmButtons.c 

Log message:
* Fixed NoClose option with unmapped panels in FvwmButtons.

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Notification: incoming/903

2002-07-07 Thread fvwm-bug
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Full_Name: Yin Wang
Version: 2.5.2, 2.4.8
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OS: Redhat Linux 7.2
X_Server: XFree86-SVGA 4.2.0
Submission from: (NULL) (211.159.89.237)


Hi,

  I've beening using my fvwm 2.5.2 and 2.4.8 with Xfree 86 on a Linux
machine.

  All goes well with XFree86 4.1, but when change to 4.2, loaded with xtt
(Xwindow True Type) module, when the windows with old style scrollbar on
the left, such as xterm, FvwmConsole appear, all the moving operation of
the windows will be delayed, that is, they don't move with the mouse
motion, but they move some time later! There is quiet a few seconds between
your operation and the window movement, and in that period you can't do any
window operation!

  I think this is probably a fvwm bug. Because xterm moves freely with
other Window Managers with xtt loaded on XFree86 4.2.

  I hope this will be fixed soon.




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Re: FVWM: OpaqueMove... not enough! ;)

2002-07-07 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Andrew Haninger spake thus:
  OpaqueResize style (that I know of)? OpaqueMove is nice, but I really
 I'm sure they can work on it.
 
 In the mean time, try out Style ResizeOpaque ;-).

D'oh! I should learn to RTFM before I post to the list. ;)

I think Fvwm comes with about 136,000 words worth of manpages, or
something like that. Fun, eh?

ResizeOpaque is great, exactly what I wanted. Now Fvwm is perfect ;)

Thanks.

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Re: FVWM: OpaqueMove... not enough! ;)

2002-07-07 Thread Andrew Haninger
 Now Fvwm is perfect ;)
So, with that, Dominik's work is done!

Andy
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FvwmPager? (was: Re: FVWM: OpaqueMove... not enough! ;))

2002-07-07 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Andrew Haninger spake thus:
  Now Fvwm is perfect ;)
 So, with that, Dominik's work is done!

Maybe not quite... I'm having some trouble with FvwmPager. Not sure if
it's an FvwmPager problem or what, but in fvwm 2.5.2 it doesn't seem to
be able to render the pages for anything but the first desk.

I find it kind of hard to describe. I use 3x2 pages per desk, but in
fvwmpager only the first desk (the 0th desk) actually has 3x2 pages...
all the other ones are just blank. The desk is the size of 3x2, but
nothing is drawn in the desk (no page outlines, no windows, nothing).

Here's a screenshot of it misbehaving:

http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/pics/fvwmpagerbad.png

I guess I could settle for only having one desk, but that's kind of
annoying.

Is this a known issue? Or am I just doing something wrong?

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Re: FvwmPager? (was: Re: FVWM: OpaqueMove... not enough! ;))

2002-07-07 Thread Marcus Lundblad


On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:

 Alas! Andrew Haninger spake thus:
   Now Fvwm is perfect ;)
  So, with that, Dominik's work is done!
 
 Maybe not quite... I'm having some trouble with FvwmPager. Not sure if
 it's an FvwmPager problem or what, but in fvwm 2.5.2 it doesn't seem to
 be able to render the pages for anything but the first desk.
 
 I find it kind of hard to describe. I use 3x2 pages per desk, but in
 fvwmpager only the first desk (the 0th desk) actually has 3x2 pages...
 all the other ones are just blank. The desk is the size of 3x2, but
 nothing is drawn in the desk (no page outlines, no windows, nothing).
 
 Here's a screenshot of it misbehaving:
 
 http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/pics/fvwmpagerbad.png
 
 I guess I could settle for only having one desk, but that's kind of
 annoying.
 
 Is this a known issue? Or am I just doing something wrong?

How do you start the pager in your .fvwm2rc?

You should use a line like this:

+   I   Module FvwmPager 0 1

in the startup funcion.
0 and 1 tells the pager the first and last desk to display.

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Re: FVWM: fvwm-snap-20020706 crash

2002-07-07 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 11:08:33AM +0200, Riswick, J.G.A. van wrote:
 HI
 
 I tried the latest snapshot
 
 fvwm-snap-20020706.tar.gz 
 
 but it seems to crash on startup. I tried
 using no fvwm2rc file, so that a basic menu
 should appear, but X crashes before fvwm starts
 up.. Please let me know if you need any more
 info.

That's fixed in the next snapshot.

Bye

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Re: FvwmPager? (was: Re: FVWM: OpaqueMove... not enough! ;))

2002-07-07 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:00:01AM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
I think Fvwm comes with about 136,000 words worth of manpages, or
something like that.

20177 lines, 105729 words, 666190 characters :-)

 Alas! Andrew Haninger spake thus:
   Now Fvwm is perfect ;)
  So, with that, Dominik's work is done!

*grin*

 Maybe not quite... I'm having some trouble with FvwmPager. Not sure if
 it's an FvwmPager problem or what, but in fvwm 2.5.2 it doesn't seem to
 be able to render the pages for anything but the first desk.
 
 I find it kind of hard to describe. I use 3x2 pages per desk, but in
 fvwmpager only the first desk (the 0th desk) actually has 3x2 pages...
 all the other ones are just blank. The desk is the size of 3x2, but
 nothing is drawn in the desk (no page outlines, no windows, nothing).
 
 Here's a screenshot of it misbehaving:
 
 http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/pics/fvwmpagerbad.png
 
 I guess I could settle for only having one desk, but that's kind of
 annoying.

Hm.  Please strip down your config file as much as possible so
that this still happens and post it here.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FVWM: Automatically raise certain windows on mouse enter, flickering of windows and widgets

2002-07-07 Thread Tom Alsberg
Hi there...
Comments below, again:

On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 05:40:55PM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 03:02:01PM +0300, Tom Alsberg wrote:
  snip /
  Well, there are other examples, like I noted, with GTK+ buttons,
  Netscape toolbars, balloon titles in FvwmPager...
 
 But what *are* the problems?  I'm not a psychic.

Well, with GTK+ buttons, sometimes the buttons act like the pointer
enters and leaves them a lot of times in a short time period, getting
highlighted and un-highlighted - the same with Netscape's toolbars.
With FvwmPager, when the pointer goes over a window, and then over
another window, in a short period of time, sometimes the balloon
showing the title of the window starts to flicker - appears and
disappears continuously for a short time.

  And sometimes
  windows being automatically raised (e.g. FvwmButtons) start
  flickering - getting raised and lowered over and over again frequently
  in a short time...
  I do not have exact tests for those examples, though, as they do not
  always happen - only once in a while...
 
 Then please try to pin it down.  I have no such problems with the
 functions.

I could only pin those problems down to the actual lines in the
.fvwm2rc which do the automatic raising and lowering.
As I said, it does not always happen... But in some time with this
setup, you notice it...

  But if you use this setup for
  a while, with some activity with automatically raised and lowered
  windows, then you'll probably see it a few times.
 
 Uh, but I won't.  I hate auto raising.  I can't use my desktop
 with it.  :-)

Oh... Well, I don't really like auto raising of my windows either... I
just use it for some little windows like the icon manager,
FvwmButtons, XClock, etc. which I want to see without effort
(clicking, etc.) at times but I don't want them to consume space all
the time...

  snip /
  I would ask now - why does this have to be a complex function?
  Couldn't it be, instead of a complex function, just some
  AutoRaise/AutoLower style?
 
 Well, what would you win with that?  You'd still need a complex
 function to select the windows to use. 

Well, I suppose just use those windows with the style applied to
them...

 No.  Either you give up most of the flexibility or you have to use
 complex functions.

  snip /
  By enter and leave events, do you mean events of FVWM (FvwmEvent), or
  events in the level of X?
 
 It's roughly the same.
 
  After all, FVWM does a lot of things on
  enter and leave, including focus, changing window styles, etc etc.
 
 Yes, but it *does not* restack windows triggered by these events.
 That's the one thing that does not work

Why should that be the one thing that does not work, though?

 snip /
 Let me explain.  You probably think that one EnterNotify event is
 sent when a window is entered and one LeaveNotify event when the
 window is left.  But that's not true.  Let's assume we have two
 overlapping windows A and B.  The most simple case would be
 windows without any children.  In fvwm, the visible window still
 consists of a lot of sub windows:  The top level window (frame),
 the Wparent window which contains the client window, and more
 than a dozen decorative windows.  Let's assume the pointer is in
 the client window of A and is moved across the title bar into
 window B:
 
  - pointer moves into the titlebar of A
Events:
  leave client A
  leave parent A
  enter title window A
  - Pointer moves into the border of A
Events:
  leave title window A
  enter border A
  - Pointer moves directly into the client window of B.
Events:
  leave border A
  leave frame A
  enter frame B
  enter parent B
  enter clent B
 
 And it get's much worse if pointer grabs are considered:  when an
 application grabs the pointer, it can specify a grab context
 window.  For example, if you open a menu (by a key stroke), the
 client, parent and frame of B are left and the menu window is
 entered, *even* if the pointer is not over the menu.  The reverse
 events occur when the grab is released (leave menu, enter frame/
 parent/client).  The old window even gets enter events if the
 pointer is no longer over it - immediately followed by the usual
 leave events and the enter events on the new window hierarchy.

Wow... I didn't know it's that complicated... (I hardly ever dealt
with those aspects of X - which do not draw in some client window or
the root window, or something)

 (BTW, this grabbing issue is what makes the gv zoom window vanish:
 the pointer is grabbed by fvwm == zoom window receives a leave
 event and closes.  It should ignore events triggered by grabs).

Why does the pointer being grabbed cause the window to receive a leave
event?

 snip /
  (and *slow*)?
 
 Because enter and leave events are by fare the most common events
 (apart from mouse events).  When they are actually communicated to
 a module, a lot of useless traffic is created.

Oh... understood... Not that I know 

FVWM: FvwmPager

2002-07-07 Thread Thomas Gardiner

Hi,

I'm using fvwm2.4.0 and when I use the following config

*FvwmPager: Label * Current

I expected from the man page that when I switch desk, the pager label
would change to reflect the Current desk.  What happens, however, is that
desk 0 is always labeled Current.  Am I reading the man page correctly?


While I'm on the subject, is there a config option to allow say 3 desks to
show up in the pager with the center one being the current one?

The only thing I could find was invoking FvwmPager as

Module FvwmPager * X

and whatever I put for X was always ignored.

Thanks,

Tom

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Re: FVWM: FvwmPager

2002-07-07 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Thomas Gardiner wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm using fvwm2.4.0 and when I use the following config
 
 *FvwmPager: Label * Current
 
 I expected from the man page that when I switch desk, the pager label
 would change to reflect the Current desk.  What happens, however, is that
 desk 0 is always labeled Current.  Am I reading the man page correctly?

No, I don't think so.  How should the pager know the names you
expect if all you specify is 'Current'?  The line above means
Label all ('*') desks as 'Current'.  You have to label all the
desks you want to use manually:

  *FvwmPager: Label 1 desk1
  *FvwmPager: Label 2 desk2
  *FvwmPager: Label 3 desk3

And start the pager with

  FvwmPager * *

 While I'm on the subject, is there a config option to allow say 3 desks to
 show up in the pager with the center one being the current one?

No.

Bye

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FVWM: FvwmButtons 'hangon'

2002-07-07 Thread Remko Troncon
Hi there,

I would like to create a panel for X-Chat using FvwmButtons, but i seem
to have some problems. When X-chat is started, it gets the title
X-Chat [1.8.9]: my_nick @ irc.myserver.org / #mychannel
So, i define a panel
*FvwmButtons: (Icon mini.xchat.xpm, \
Panel(position top,right,delay 0,UseOld,NoClose) \
X-Chat* Nop)
However, X-chat doesnt seem to hang itself on the button. The wildcard
should be correct, because
Style X-Chat* NoTitle
removes the title from the X-Chat window. Is there a solution to this
problem ?

A second problem i have with the FvwmButtons module is the following: i
define a button just identical to the one above (i.e. with UseOld and 
NoClose). When i restart FVWM with the application of the button visible, 
everything is ok: i can still click the button to show/hide the application. 
But, after i restart FVWM when the application is in the hidden state, 
clicking the button doesnt do anything. The application is still running 
however, but i can't get a hold of it anymore. Is this normal ?

Thanks a lot,
Remko
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Re: FVWM: Problem with xmms - shaped window

2002-07-07 Thread Uwe Pross
On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 02:47:42PM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 
 Upgrade to the latest xmms release.  Versions prior to 1.2.4 are
 *very* buggy in their window handling.  The latest release works
 fine.

I had version 1.2.4 running and upgraded to 1.2.7 but still  the  same
problem. I had a try with windowmaker and fvwm-2.4.6  which  show  not
that problem. I also realized that shaped windows like xmms or gkrellm
are hard to move. If I try to move them quickly they  alway  remain  a
couple  of points after the mouse pointer. Shaped windows appear as if
the are very sluggish. Moving shaped windows consumes  a  lot  of  cpu
power  as  well. I even had a try with fvwm-2.4.6 and windowmaker both
move xmms much faster than version 2.5.1. 

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Re: FvwmPager? (was: Re: FVWM: OpaqueMove... not enough! ;))

2002-07-07 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Dominik Vogt spake thus:
 On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:00:01AM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 I think Fvwm comes with about 136,000 words worth of manpages, or
 something like that.
 
 20177 lines, 105729 words, 666190 characters :-)

That's not what I came up with:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/man/man1$ {
-- for i in fvwm* Fvwm*  
-- do
-- name=$(echo $i|perl -pi -e 's/\.1$//')
-- man 1 $name|cat 
-- done
-- } | wc
  26466  136635 1292843

26,466 lines, 136,635 words, 1,292,843 characters. Of course, lines
isn't meaningful here because man autowraps; the wider your terminal,
the less lines you'll get. Also, characters isn't meaninful either,
because the more lines you have, the more spaces there will be to make
up the indentation. So really, words is the only measurement that is
useful ;)

  Here's a screenshot of it misbehaving:
  
  http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/pics/fvwmpagerbad.png
  
  I guess I could settle for only having one desk, but that's kind of
  annoying.
 
 Hm.  Please strip down your config file as much as possible so
 that this still happens and post it here.

Ok, here is the config file that is as stripped as it can possibly be
while still recreating the problem:

DestroyFunc StartFunction
AddToFunc StartFunction
+ I Module FvwmPager 0 1

Those three lines in the .fvwm2rc file, with nothing else, causes this
behaviour.

But, on further inspection, Switching to another page or desk, allowing
the pager to go offscreen, fixes it. Of course, this is not possible
when it's sticky, which is how I want it.

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FVWM: Re: FvwmPager?

2002-07-07 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Mikhael Goikhman spake thus:
 As I said several days ago on this list, this is a known problem in 2.5.2
 and 2.5.1.

I joined the list after you posted that ;)

 Any multi-desk pager (FvwmPager 0 3) even without a config will show it.
 The initial drawing of FvwmPager was completely broken at some point.
 I fixed all problems in a single desker, but not in a multi-desker.

Any chance you'll fix the rest of it?

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RE: FVWM: fvwm-snap-20020706 crash never mind

2002-07-07 Thread Riswick, J.G.A. van
 
HI

never mind that one, there was a corrupted fvwm2rc file in 
my home dir.

jos

-Original Message-
From: Riswick, J.G.A. van
To: 'fvwm@fvwm.org'
Sent: 7/7/2002 11:08 AM
Subject: FVWM: fvwm-snap-20020706 crash

HI

I tried the latest snapshot

fvwm-snap-20020706.tar.gz 

but it seems to crash on startup. I tried
using no fvwm2rc file, so that a basic menu
should appear, but X crashes before fvwm starts
up.. Please let me know if you need any more
info.

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FVWM: Scroll Lock mode

2002-07-07 Thread Remko Troncon
Hi again,

I have been coping with a specific problem ever since i started using
fvwm one year ago. For some reason, from time to time my key bindings
stopped working, and closing windows by clicking on the button in the
top left corner of the window didn't work either. Because i couldn't
reproduce the error, i didn't mention it (yet). However, i seem to have
found the reason: going into 'Scroll Lock' mode seems to change some
things that make fvwm ignore these events. It's a mystery to me how i
get into that 'scroll lock' mode, but pressing scroll lock seems to
solve the problem every time (and pressing it again causes the events to
be ignored again).
Is there a solution to this ?

cheers,
Remko
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Re: FVWM: Re: FvwmPager?

2002-07-07 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 07:38:13PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
 On 07 Jul 2002 11:41:01 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
  
  On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:00:01AM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
  
   Maybe not quite... I'm having some trouble with FvwmPager. Not sure if
   it's an FvwmPager problem or what, but in fvwm 2.5.2 it doesn't seem to
   be able to render the pages for anything but the first desk.
   
   I find it kind of hard to describe. I use 3x2 pages per desk, but in
   fvwmpager only the first desk (the 0th desk) actually has 3x2 pages...
   all the other ones are just blank. The desk is the size of 3x2, but
   nothing is drawn in the desk (no page outlines, no windows, nothing).
   
   Here's a screenshot of it misbehaving:
   
   http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/pics/fvwmpagerbad.png
   
   I guess I could settle for only having one desk, but that's kind of
   annoying.
  
  Hm.  Please strip down your config file as much as possible so
  that this still happens and post it here.
 
 As I said several days ago on this list, this is a known problem in 2.5.2
 and 2.5.1.
 
 Any multi-desk pager (FvwmPager 0 3) even without a config will show it.
 The initial drawing of FvwmPager was completely broken at some point.
 I fixed all problems in a single desker, but not in a multi-desker.

Are you saying that the bug is still in the post-2.5.2 development
code?  I don't see any problem.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FvwmPager? (was: Re: FVWM: OpaqueMove... not enough! ;))

2002-07-07 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:10:10PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 Alas! Dominik Vogt spake thus:
  On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:00:01AM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
  I think Fvwm comes with about 136,000 words worth of manpages, or
  something like that.
  
  20177 lines, 105729 words, 666190 characters :-)
 
 That's not what I came up with:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/man/man1$ {
 -- for i in fvwm* Fvwm*  
 -- do
 -- name=$(echo $i|perl -pi -e 's/\.1$//')
 -- man 1 $name|cat 
 -- done
 -- } | wc
   26466  136635 1292843

Wow, so much code just to cout words.  With zsh:

  $ wc **/*.1

That's all :-)  Of course it counts formatting instructions too.

 26,466 lines, 136,635 words, 1,292,843 characters. Of course, lines
 isn't meaningful here because man autowraps; the wider your terminal,
 the less lines you'll get. Also, characters isn't meaninful either,
 because the more lines you have, the more spaces there will be to make
 up the indentation. So really, words is the only measurement that is
 useful ;)

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FVWM: Scroll Lock mode

2002-07-07 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 11:00:04PM +0200, Remko Troncon wrote:
 I have been coping with a specific problem ever since i started using
 fvwm one year ago. For some reason, from time to time my key bindings
 stopped working, and closing windows by clicking on the button in the
 top left corner of the window didn't work either.

Oh dear!  You've lived with the most frequently encountered
problem for a year without knowing that the solution is written in
big friendly letters right at the front of the fvwm FAQ. ;-)

 Because i couldn't
 reproduce the error, i didn't mention it (yet). However, i seem to have
 found the reason: going into 'Scroll Lock' mode seems to change some
 things that make fvwm ignore these events. It's a mystery to me how i
 get into that 'scroll lock' mode, but pressing scroll lock seems to
 solve the problem every time (and pressing it again causes the events to
 be ignored again).
 Is there a solution to this ?

Yes.  The one I recommend is to disable the scroll-lock, num-lock
and possibly caps-lock keys conpletely.  From our FAQ (note that you
need at least fvwm-2.4.0 for the IgnoreModifiers command):

-- snip 
5.5  Why do NumLock, CapsLock and ScrollLock interfere with
 ClickToFocus and/or my mouse bindings?

A: Because they are treated as modifiers.  You can use the
   IgnoreModifiers command to turn individual modifiers off for
   bindings.  With XFree86 the right command is

 IgnoreModifiers L25

   If you changed your modifiers manually or are using a different
   X server use the 'xmodmap' command to find out which modifiers
   correspond to the keys you want to switch off.

   This command creates a lot of extra network traffic, depending
   on your CPU, network connection, the number of Key Mouse commands
   in your configuration file and the number of modifiers you want to
   ignore.  If you do not have a lightning fast machine or very few
   bindings you should not ignore more than two modifiers.  So do
   not ignore scroll-lock if you have no problem with it.

   A better way to solve this problem is to modify the keyboard
   mapping of your X server.  The commands

 xmodmap -e clear Lock
 xmodmap -e clear Mod2
 xmodmap -e clear Mod5

   remove the CapsLock, NumLock and ScrollLock from the keyboard map.
   Pressing these keys has no effect then.  To re-add them try this:

 xmodmap -e add Lock = Caps_Lock
 xmodmap -e add Mod2 = Num_Lock
 xmodmap -e add Mod5 = Scroll_Lock

   Fvwm has to be restarted to use the changes made by xmodmap.
   Please refer to the man page of the xmodmap command for further
   details.  If you disable the CapsLock key in your keyboard map in
   this way, you can speed up fvwm a bit by removing the Lock
   modifier from the list of ignored modifiers:

 IgnoreModifiers
-- snip 

Don't hesitate to ask for further help.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FVWM: FvwmPager

2002-07-07 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 04:19:50PM -0400, Thomas Gardiner wrote:
 
 Okay, then maybe the man page is written incorrectly?  I find this in the
 man page for FvwmPager:
 
*FvwmPager: Label desk label
   Assigns the text label to desk desk (or the current
   desk if desk is *) in the  pager  window.  Useful
   for assigning symbolic names to desktops, i.e.
 
 
 My interpretation of the first sentence is that if I do
 
 *FvwmPager: Label * my_label
 
 that the current desk should be labeled my_label.
 
 I guess I'm misunderstanding this sentence...  As for the labels for the
 rest of the desks, I'm finding that by default they are labeled Desk #
 where # is the desk number.

Ah, sure.  I shouldn't have replied without re-reading the man
page.  The '*' applies to the desk that is currently shown when
the pager is created.  If you start the pager while desk 2 is
shown, the label is applied to desk 2.  If you'r on desk 345, it's
applied to desk 345.  It's not dynamic.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FVWM: Problem with xmms - shaped window

2002-07-07 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 05:08:11PM +0200, Uwe Pross wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 02:47:42PM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
  
  Upgrade to the latest xmms release.  Versions prior to 1.2.4 are
  *very* buggy in their window handling.  The latest release works
  fine.
 
 I had version 1.2.4 running and upgraded to 1.2.7 but still  the  same
 problem. I had a try with windowmaker and fvwm-2.4.6  which  show  not
 that problem. I also realized that shaped windows like xmms or gkrellm
 are hard to move. If I try to move them quickly they  alway  remain  a
 couple  of points after the mouse pointer. Shaped windows appear as if
 the are very sluggish. Moving shaped windows consumes  a  lot  of  cpu
 power  as  well. I even had a try with fvwm-2.4.6 and windowmaker both
 move xmms much faster than version 2.5.1. 

Um, you're using 2.5.1?  Bad choice - and I fear it's even worse.
You don't happen to have a snapshot that was mad prior to 6th of
March?  That explains the problem with slow window movement.  It's
upgrade time again ;-)  2.5.1 (and the earlier snapshots) don't
even deserve to be called 'alpha' quality.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FvwmPager? (was: Re: FVWM: OpaqueMove... not enough! ;))

2002-07-07 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park
Alas! Dominik Vogt spake thus:
 On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:10:10PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
  Alas! Dominik Vogt spake thus:
   On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:00:01AM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
   I think Fvwm comes with about 136,000 words worth of manpages, or
   something like that.
   
   20177 lines, 105729 words, 666190 characters :-)
  
  That's not what I came up with:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/man/man1$ {
  -- for i in fvwm* Fvwm*  
  -- do
  -- name=$(echo $i|perl -pi -e 's/\.1$//')
  -- man 1 $name|cat 
  -- done
  -- } | wc
26466  136635 1292843
 
 Wow, so much code just to cout words.  With zsh:
 
   $ wc **/*.1
 
 That's all :-)  Of course it counts formatting instructions too.

Exactly -- my way doesn't count formatting stuff. It's not really that
hard, all I'm doing is taking the .1 off the name so that man will
display it, and then counting everything. And I don't know if you store
your fvwm manpages somewhere other than the default location, but
that would count all the words in all the manpages that I have ;)

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