fvwm cvs and gkrellm race condition

2002-08-13 Thread S. Anderson
I may have found a bug, to reproduce...

1. I start fvwm without a rc file, 
2. then execute gkrellm from a xterm,
3. then I click on the gkrellm window(not the fvwm decorations) and 
   wiggle it around.
4. repeat step 3 a few times. 

fvwm, gkrellm and X start fighting for cpu use. Memory used starts 
filling up really fast. And I cant do anything execpt ctrl-alt-bkspce.

GKrellM 1.2.13
gtk 1.2.10
Xfree86 4.2.0
Linux 2.4.19 i686 AuthenticAMD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % fvwm-config -i
Package: fvwm
Version: 2.5.3

Instalation options:
prefix: /home/sa/local
exec-prefix: /home/sa/local
bindir: /home/sa/local/bin
datadir: /home/sa/local/share
libexecdir: /home/sa/local/libexec
sysconfdir: /home/sa/local/etc
mandir: /home/sa/local/man

Compiled-in paths:
Module directory: /home/sa/local/libexec/fvwm/2.5.3
Data directory: /home/sa/local/share/fvwm
Perl lib directory: /home/sa/local/share/fvwm/perllib
Default ImagePath:
/usr/include/X11/bitmaps:/usr/include/X11/pixmaps
Default UserDir: $HOME/.fvwm

Support for features:
bidi (bi-directionality): no
ewmh (Extended Window Manager Hints): yes
gnome-hints (window manager hints): yes
gtk (required for FvwmGtk): yes
gdk-imlib (in FvwmGtk): yes
gnome-libs (in FvwmGtk): yes
perllib (Perl library installed): yes
png: yes
readline: yes
rplay: no
shape (shaped windows): yes
sm (session management): yes
stroke (mouse gestures): yes
xinerama (multi-head): yes
xft (FreeType anti-alias font): yes
xpm: yes
xrender (XFree86 Xrender extention): yes

let me know if you need any other info,
cya,
sa

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CVS olicha: * Implemented dithering for depth 16 and 15:

2002-08-13 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: olicha  02/08/13 01:08:45

Modified files:
.  : ChangeLog NEWS 
fvwm   : builtins.c fvwm.1 
libs   : PictureUtils.c 

Log message:
* Implemented dithering for depth 16 and 15:
This is off by default in colorset (use the dither colorset option)
and on by default for window title gradient. Gradient are visibly more
smooth.
* Color limit and dithering news
* Some cleanup
* Added a minimal doc for the -color-limit option (more doc at the end
of august)

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Re: fvwm cvs and gkrellm race condition

2002-08-13 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 10:07:14PM -0600, S. Anderson wrote:
 I may have found a bug, to reproduce...
 
 1. I start fvwm without a rc file, 
 2. then execute gkrellm from a xterm,
 3. then I click on the gkrellm window(not the fvwm decorations) and 
wiggle it around.
 4. repeat step 3 a few times. 
 
 fvwm, gkrellm and X start fighting for cpu use. Memory used starts 
 filling up really fast. And I cant do anything execpt ctrl-alt-bkspce.
 
 GKrellM 1.2.13
 gtk 1.2.10
 Xfree86 4.2.0
 Linux 2.4.19 i686 AuthenticAMD
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % fvwm-config -i
 Package: fvwm
 Version: 2.5.3

With the same versions, it doesn't happen here.  Is the fvwm-2.5.3
latest CVS?

 let me know if you need any other info,

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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CVS domivogt: * Fixed taskbar/autostick races.

2002-08-13 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/08/13 06:26:27

Modified files:
modules: ChangeLog 
modules/FvwmTaskBar: FvwmTaskBar.c FvwmTaskBar.h 

Log message:
* Fixed taskbar/autostick races.

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CVS domivogt: * Fixed taskbar/autostick races.

2002-08-13 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/08/13 06:26:41

Modified files:
.  : Tag: branch-2_4 NEWS 
modules: Tag: branch-2_4 ChangeLog 
modules/FvwmTaskBar: Tag: branch-2_4 FvwmTaskBar.c FvwmTaskBar.h 

Log message:
* Fixed taskbar/autostick races.

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CVS domivogt: * Fix for FVWM_...DIR with spaces in path names.

2002-08-13 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm
Changes by: domivogt02/08/13 07:57:06

Modified files:
.  : ChangeLog configure.in 

Log message:
* Fix for FVWM_...DIR with spaces in path names.

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Re: fvwm cvs and gkrellm race condition

2002-08-13 Thread S. Anderson
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 11:40:28AM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 10:07:14PM -0600, S. Anderson wrote:
  I may have found a bug, to reproduce...
  
  1. I start fvwm without a rc file, 
  2. then execute gkrellm from a xterm,
  3. then I click on the gkrellm window(not the fvwm decorations) and 
 wiggle it around.
  4. repeat step 3 a few times. 
  
  fvwm, gkrellm and X start fighting for cpu use. Memory used starts 
  filling up really fast. And I cant do anything execpt ctrl-alt-bkspce.
  
  GKrellM 1.2.13
  gtk 1.2.10
  Xfree86 4.2.0
  Linux 2.4.19 i686 AuthenticAMD
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % fvwm-config -i
  Package: fvwm
  Version: 2.5.3
 
 With the same versions, it doesn't happen here.  Is the fvwm-2.5.3
 latest CVS?
 

yes updated on aug 12th. I downloaded fvwm-snap-20020810 and It doesnt
have this problem. I just figured out, If I
#undef EXPERIMENTAL_ANTI_RACE_CONDITION_CODE
in fvwm/events.c at line 1081 I dont have this problem anymore.
is the experimental anti race condition code important, should I not
disable it?
also I forg÷t to mention I am using gcc 3.1.1, and It is not only
gkrellm, but xmms and xine too.

cya,
sa
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FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Remko Troncon
Hi,

I am using xplanet to update my background every couple of minutes. When
i quit fvwm, i would like to kill xplanet so that it doesn't keep on
running. A QuitFunction (called only when actually quitting) would be
convenient for this, but i can't seem to find it in the manual. Why is
this ?

thanks,
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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 13 Aug 2002 08:29:48 +0200, Remko Troncon wrote:
 
 I am using xplanet to update my background every couple of minutes. When
 i quit fvwm, i would like to kill xplanet so that it doesn't keep on
 running. A QuitFunction (called only when actually quitting) would be
 convenient for this, but i can't seem to find it in the manual. Why is
 this ?

It's named ExitFunction.

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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Remko Troncon
 It's named ExitFunction.

Yes, i saw the ExitFunction. But the man page says that this function is
called  on restarts  also. I only  want  to kill  xplanet when  actually
quitting.

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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 13 Aug 2002 09:00:30 +0200, Remko Troncon wrote:
 
  It's named ExitFunction.
 
 Yes, i saw the ExitFunction. But the man page says that this function is
 called  on restarts  also. I only  want  to kill  xplanet when  actually
 quitting.

Well, you may start xplanet in StartFunction instead of InitFunction
and ExitFunction will work for you like you want.

Or run an fvwm wrapper like this:

  xplanet 
  fvwm
  killall xplanet  # or: kill `pidof xplanet`

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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Remko Troncon
 Well, you may start xplanet in StartFunction instead of InitFunction
 and ExitFunction will work for you like you want.

That's not really what you would want to do with xplanet.

 Or run an fvwm wrapper like this:
   xplanet 
   fvwm
   killall xplanet  # or: kill `pidof xplanet`

This is indeed a solution, but i was wondering if it could be moved
inside fvwm. Is there a reason why there is no such QuitFunction ?

cheers,
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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 13 Aug 2002 09:30:11 +0200, Remko Troncon wrote:
 
  Well, you may start xplanet in StartFunction instead of InitFunction
  and ExitFunction will work for you like you want.
 
 That's not really what you would want to do with xplanet.

I don't see a problem with this.

  Or run an fvwm wrapper like this:
xplanet 
fvwm
killall xplanet  # or: kill `pidof xplanet`
 
 This is indeed a solution, but i was wondering if it could be moved
 inside fvwm. Is there a reason why there is no such QuitFunction ?

Noone just needed it, because other solutions exist. We would also need
PreRestartFunction for completeness. And SessionQuitFunction with
SessionPreRestartFunction. When I added StartFunction (to avoid a module
startup duplication) there were some voices saying too many special
functions is not very good. But if there are more people that can't live
without QuitFunction it may be trivially added.

Regards,
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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Remko Troncon
 I don't see a problem with this.

It's a pure luxury problem.
When fvwm is restarted, xplanet doesn't have to be restarted because all
it does is update the background. Restarting it on every fvwm restart is
CPU intensive, and causes the background to blank out for a few seconds.

 Noone just needed it, because other solutions exist. We would also need
 PreRestartFunction for completeness.

I'm not saying that i _really_ need it, because as you said before, it 
can be moved out of fvwm inside a wrapper. But now that i read the
manual more thoroughly, i get your point on needing Pre-restart
functions. I had the impression that the functions were organized this
way (which they aren't):
- InitFunction: called upon initialization only
- QuitFunction (doesn't exist): called when the user quits only

- StartFunction: called after InitFunction (when initing) or 
after RestartFunction (when restarting)
- RestartFunction: called before QuitFunction (when quitting) or 
  before StartFunction (when restarting)
My intuition behind this was that, things you want to do before a restart
(RestartFunction) and after a restart (StartFunction) , you also want
to do before quitting and after initing respectively. 

I hope this makes any sense to you at all ;)

cheers,
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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Remko Troncon
 Why don't you just start it in the ~/.xinitrc file?

That's what i was planning to do. But for some strange reason, i
preferred to have it in my fvwmrc, and have as less as possible inside my 
.xinitrc. (i know, it's a purely subjective principle, but that's just my 
feeling :)

Anyway, i'll stick with the .xinitrc file.

cheers,
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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 13 Aug 2002 13:41:15 +0200, Remko Troncon wrote:
 
  Why don't you just start it in the ~/.xinitrc file?
 
 That's what i was planning to do. But for some strange reason, i
 preferred to have it in my fvwmrc, and have as less as possible inside my 
 .xinitrc. (i know, it's a purely subjective principle, but that's just my 
 feeling :)

My feeling too, .xinitrc is mostly for X settings. Apllications like
background painters are usually a part of a theme, may be different on
different X starts.

Regards,
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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 13 Aug 2002 13:12:01 +0200, Remko Troncon wrote:
 
 I'm not saying that i _really_ need it, because as you said before, it 
 can be moved out of fvwm inside a wrapper. But now that i read the
 manual more thoroughly, i get your point on needing Pre-restart
 functions. I had the impression that the functions were organized this
 way (which they aren't):
 - InitFunction: called upon initialization only
 - QuitFunction (doesn't exist): called when the user quits only
 
 - StartFunction: called after InitFunction (when initing) or 
 after RestartFunction (when restarting)

I know 2 reasons for StartFunction to be first and one reason for it to be
second.

 - RestartFunction: called before QuitFunction (when quitting) or 
   before StartFunction (when restarting)

But then RestartFunction would be run twice.

 My intuition behind this was that, things you want to do before a restart
 (RestartFunction) and after a restart (StartFunction) , you also want
 to do before quitting and after initing respectively. 
 
 I hope this makes any sense to you at all ;)

Now when I think about this, I see an elegant solution for these problems.
We only need 2 functions (not including Session*Function variants),
StartFunction and ExitFunction.

StartFunction may include conditions StartUp and Restart, ExitFunction
may include conditions Restart and Quit, these conditions are always
false anywhere else. This way InitFunction and RestartFunction are not
needed (not that RestartFunction is needed now anyway).

  AddToFunc StartFunction
  + I ModuleSynchronous FvwmPerl
  + I On (StartUp) FvwmBanner
  + I On (Restart) Exec play /some/dong.au
  + I FvwmButtons
  + I Exec xterm ...
  + I Wait
  + I Exec mozilla
  + I On (StartUp) Exec xplanet-runner
  + I FvwmPager

  AddToFunc ExitFunction
  + I On (Quit) Exec killall xplanet-runner
  + I On (Restart) Exec play /some/ding.au
  + I Echo Either Restart or Quit

I don't know whether it is more intuitive or not.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2002-08-13 Thread Remko Troncon
 StartFunction may include conditions StartUp and Restart, ExitFunction
 may include conditions Restart and Quit, these conditions are always
 false anywhere else. This way InitFunction and RestartFunction are not
 needed (not that RestartFunction is needed now anyway).
 ...

Your approach is indeed cleaner and more general than what i had in mind.
Another advantage about this is that it's backward compatible.

 I don't know whether it is more intuitive or not.

It is to me !

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FVWM: PipeRead and shell args

2002-08-13 Thread Gregg Dameron
Running 2.4.7 on Solaris.

I have a function that accepts three arguments, the last of which is
optional; if omitted, I supply a default.  Here's what's working:

AddToFunc MyFunc
+ I PipeRead 'BD=$2; BD=${BD:-4};  ... '

If I try to shorten it to this:

+ I PipeRead 'BD=${2:-4};  ... '

then BD is always 4 ($2 is seemingly ignored).  sh is apparently
satisfied (no bad substitution error).  Expected?  Wrong syntax?

Gregg Dameron


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Re: FVWM: PipeRead and shell args

2002-08-13 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 13 Aug 2002 12:18:15 -0600, Gregg Dameron wrote:
 
 I have a function that accepts three arguments, the last of which is
 optional; if omitted, I supply a default.  Here's what's working:
 
 AddToFunc MyFunc
 + I PipeRead 'BD=$2; BD=${BD:-4};  ... '
 
 If I try to shorten it to this:
 
 + I PipeRead 'BD=${2:-4};  ... '
 
 then BD is always 4 ($2 is seemingly ignored).  sh is apparently
 satisfied (no bad substitution error).  Expected?  Wrong syntax?

You can't shorten it. If you want the second function parameter to be
expanded by FVWM, you should write it as $2. Other shell-like syntaxes
like ${2} or ${2:-4} do not work, both these strings are passed to the
shell unexpanded if used inside PipeRead.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: Documentation (was: Re: FVWM: How do I start modules automatically?)

2002-08-13 Thread Felix Karpfen
Dominik Vogt wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 12:40:43PM -0400, Stephen Dennison wrote:
  What would you like to see in such a tutorial?
 
 That's a part of the job to figure that out.  

2 cents' worth from a new arrival who badly needs such a tutorial.

The postings (that I have read) look at suitable formats.

But the real issue is _content|sequence of presentation_.

My recent efforts to learn to use vim may serve as an illustration.

My version of Linux installed vim-5.7.  That did all that I am ever
likely to need in an editor.  But the documentation was unhelpful.  I
opted to update to vim-6.0 because it came with an Online Manual.

The Manual has two parts:

a Users Manual; and
a Reference Manual.

and it is utterly superb.

An enormous amount of thought and effort must have gone into the
preparation of the Users Manual in selecting the order in which topics
are described and previously-described routines are shown in use at
later stages - helping newcomers to refresh what they had learnt and had
already forgotten again.

This posting adds nothing that is not obvious to the experts - the requested
project is of mammoth proportions.

And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

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Re: FVWM: configure do not recognize xpm

2002-08-13 Thread Sigmund Skjelnes
Hi, all!
Now FVWM2 are up and running nicely, with the win95 look I'd asked for.
All what is left now is to edit setup to fit this installation, I'd
start on that soon. 

What I've done is to (removed the extra xpm installation) (1) re-build
xpm (NetBSD source package), as a result everything that depended on xpm
were re-built as well, so it took the entire evening (do not ask how
long, I'd went to bed). There have been a flaw in fvwm95 ( which is in
current use ), when I'd click on a window, it comes to front, but do not
receive focus. I'd have to click on the icon on button bar to gain
focus. When X is recently started it works ok, when I'd click on a
window, it gets to front and focus are gained, but after Netscape have
crashed once or more, I dont get focus by clicking in a window any more.
This behavior now seems to have disappeared, but I'd won't say its gone
quite yet, this bug is of an periodic kind, it's important to be very
patient. 

Furthermore I'd have tested the myfvwmtest program sent me from Mikhael
Goikhman, and I'd found that some libXpm.so.4 library were missing.
Links were made in /usr/lib, and after sucessful build, it reported 

XpmIncludeVersion=30411, XpmLibraryVersion=30411

as expected. Now, I'd (3) re-installed fvwm2:

./configure --with-xpm-library=/usr/X11R6/lib
--with-xpm-includes=/usr/X11R6/lib

.. this time config summary said XPM  YES. Then I'd executed make
and make install. It came up with that configure 95 in main menu,
and soon I'd get that 95 look a like desktop. 

It seems like that xpm installation were bad. Some strange things also
happened to fvwm2, this may or may not be related to all the xpm
trouble, this time it found the setup 95 script, so the .fvwm2rc file
were installed. Happy ending, despite it is'nt very clear how the
scripts finally made it... Thank you very much all of you, and good luck
with the fvwm development. Feel free to ask more questions.

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Re: FVWM: Direct Draw?

2002-08-13 Thread Erik Steffl
David wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I hope someone else is also asking for direct draw fvwm.
 
 As it is now, when I start X11 in a cygwin shell, the xwindow
 comes up and the fvwm2 comes up.
 
 However, when I quit the cygwin shell, the window manager goes
 away and so do its child xterms.
 
 It used to be that the X11 root when away but now it survives.
 I hope an fvwm2 upgrade will enable the window manager to
 survive loss of the cygwin shell parent.
 
 David
 
 ps. Or, is there a workaround?

  it depends on how you start fvwm. some shells leave the kids running,
some kill them (it might be configurable). if you want the program to
run after you exit the shell regardles of which shell you are running
use nohup (see man nohup).

erik
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