Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-04 Thread Gergely_Santa
 Right, and FvwmButtons would be nice, IF It is transparent
 and show ONLY the Icons.  I have tried to get the FvwmButtons

 Is there a Example, HOW to make FvwmButtons transparent?

Here is my configuration, which displays transparent buttons, as icons:

Colorset 40 fg white, fgsh black, Transparent
Colorset 41 fg white, fgsh black, Transparent, IconTint Blue 30, fgTint
Blue 30, bgTint Blue 30
Colorset 42 fg white, fgsh black, Transparent, IconTint Red  50, fgTint
Red  50, bgTint Red  50

Style MyButtons  NoTitle, NoHandles, Sticky, WindowListSkip, BorderWidth
0, CirculateSkip, ParentalRelativity
DestroyModuleConfig MyButtons*
*MyButtons: Columns 1
*MyButtons: Frame 0
*MyButtons: Padding 5
*MyButtons: Colorset 40
*MyButtons: ActiveColorset 41
*MyButtons: PressColorset 42
*MyButtons: Geometry +5+5
*MyButtons: BoxSize smart
*MyButtons: Font Shadow=1 1 SE: fontname


Cheers,

EdE




Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-03 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-31 17:52:49, schrieb Thomas Adam:

 I'm drowining in your syntax here.
 
 Most people do this the other way around, namely they replace the buggy
 FvwmTaskBar[1] with FvwmIconMan, optionally swallowed in FvwmButtons.
 What is it you're asking exactly?  You want something that will imitate
 FvwmButtons that isn't going to run inside FVWM?  
 
 You need to be much more specific about your requirements if you want
 help with whatever your question is.

I want to have the buttons non in the button bar but as Icon on the Desktop.
I do not like the FvwmIconMan because the scrollbars and I wa not able to
stick it on the rootwindow transparent.

Exactly, I wand the Icons like under those M$ products on the desktop

The FvwmTakbar schould stay.  ;-)

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:20:27 +0100
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to have the buttons non in the button bar but as Icon on the
 Desktop. I do not like the FvwmIconMan because the scrollbars and I
 wa not able to stick it on the rootwindow transparent.

Sorry -- I still don't understand what you mean here.  Do you have a
screenshot or something which best illustrates this?

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-03 Thread Fernando Poza Saura



Michelle Konzack wrote:


Am 2006-10-31 17:52:49, schrieb Thomas Adam:



I'm drowining in your syntax here.

Most people do this the other way around, namely they replace the buggy
FvwmTaskBar[1] with FvwmIconMan, optionally swallowed in FvwmButtons.
What is it you're asking exactly?  You want something that will imitate
FvwmButtons that isn't going to run inside FVWM?  


You need to be much more specific about your requirements if you want
help with whatever your question is.



I want to have the buttons non in the button bar but as Icon on the Desktop.
I do not like the FvwmIconMan because the scrollbars and I wa not able to
stick it on the rootwindow transparent.

Exactly, I wand the Icons like under those M$ products on the desktop

If I haven't misundestood you, you could have this M$ appealing, with 
several instances of FvwmButtons, one per application, with only one 
button each, launching the corresponding application. Then you can place 
them anywhere in your desktop (or page, sorry I don't remember exactly 
which is the right word, but I think you know what I mean) using 
geometry in style lines. They are nicer with no border (0 pixels). The 
difference with those in M$ Win is that you cannot pick them up with the 
mouse and replace in a differente position (or yes?).


Said that, a question arise: It's worth it, in terms of efficiency, to 
have only one instance of FvwmButtons with all the buttons in it?


Thanks
Fernando






Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-03 Thread Gergely_Santa
On Fri, November 3, 2006 3:20 pm, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Am 2006-10-31 17:52:49, schrieb Thomas Adam:


 I'm drowining in your syntax here.


 Most people do this the other way around, namely they replace the buggy
  FvwmTaskBar[1] with FvwmIconMan, optionally swallowed in FvwmButtons.
 What is it you're asking exactly?  You want something that will imitate
 FvwmButtons that isn't going to run inside FVWM?


 You need to be much more specific about your requirements if you want
 help with whatever your question is.

 I want to have the buttons non in the button bar but as Icon on the
 Desktop.
 I do not like the FvwmIconMan because the scrollbars and I wa not able to
 stick it on the rootwindow transparent.

 Exactly, I wand the Icons like under those M$ products on the desktop


 The FvwmTakbar schould stay.  ;-)


 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
 Michelle Konzack
 Systemadministrator
 Tamay Dogan Network
 Debian GNU/Linux Consultant



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I had the same problem some moths ago.. Needed windows-like icons on
desktop for some users, which I got by configuring FvwmButtons (with
transparent background). The first problem with it was, that they can't be
moved. The second, and most annoying for these users, that these icons
launch their application on single-click.. I had some experiments with
writing functions, which had to execute on doubleclick, but for some
strange reasons they launched apps on triple-click :) After it I started
here a conversation about this problem, but no solution found (maybe since
then it exists), so I disabled FvwmButtons, and added idesk
(idesk.sourceforge.net) as startaction for Fvwm.. This is a non-fvwm
solution, but solves desktop for hard windowsbrained users :) Maybe this
will help you too..

Regards,

EdE





Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 08:27:59PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had the same problem some moths ago.. Needed windows-like icons on
 desktop for some users, which I got by configuring FvwmButtons (with

[...]

I see now, what Michelle means.  There's an explanation for this in the
main FAQ.  I would personally just use something like rox-filer or
idesk.

-- Thomas Adam

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Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-03 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-03 20:27:59, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I had the same problem some moths ago.. Needed windows-like icons on
 desktop for some users, which I got by configuring FvwmButtons (with
 transparent background). The first problem with it was, that they can't be
 moved. The second, and most annoying for these users, that these icons

No problem, they schould be there where tey are!

 launch their application on single-click.. I had some experiments with

AFAIK can the doule click be configured.

 writing functions, which had to execute on doubleclick, but for some
 strange reasons they launched apps on triple-click :) After it I started

:-/

 here a conversation about this problem, but no solution found (maybe since
 then it exists), so I disabled FvwmButtons, and added idesk
 (idesk.sourceforge.net) as startaction for Fvwm.. This is a non-fvwm
 solution, but solves desktop for hard windowsbrained users :) Maybe this
 will help you too..

I will look at it.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-03 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-11-03 18:01:30, schrieb Fernando Poza Saura:

 If I haven't misundestood you, you could have this M$ appealing, with 
 several instances of FvwmButtons, one per application, with only one 
 button each, launching the corresponding application. Then you can place 
 them anywhere in your desktop (or page, sorry I don't remember exactly 
 which is the right word, but I think you know what I mean) using 
 geometry in style lines. They are nicer with no border (0 pixels). The 
 difference with those in M$ Win is that you cannot pick them up with the 
 mouse and replace in a differente position (or yes?).
 
 Said that, a question arise: It's worth it, in terms of efficiency, to 
 have only one instance of FvwmButtons with all the buttons in it?

Right, and FvwmButtons would be nice, IF It is transparent
and show ONLY the Icons.  I have tried to get the FvwmButtons

Is there a Example, HOW to make FvwmButtons transparent?

I have found some themes which do this, but since it is only one
file and not nice ordered, I do not know, what to do with it.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 11:45:08PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Am 2006-11-03 18:01:30, schrieb Fernando Poza Saura:
 Is there a Example, HOW to make FvwmButtons transparent?

The main FVWM FAQ, the fvwm wiki, the fvwm-forums, my own FVWM FAQ all
tell how, as does 'man fvwm-themes'.

-- Thomas Adam

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Re: FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-10-31 Thread Thomas Adam
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 02:20:59PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Hello *,
 
 After trying some IconManager to replace FvwmButton in Enterprises
 where I am Migrating to Linux, I have the need to ask here, what
 to do, since my solution should replace FvwmButton exactly.
 
 I need configurable Left/Right-Mouse-Klick (Exec + PopUp) and xpm
 support.  Preferable Icon options like Inactive and Pressed.

I'm drowining in your syntax here.

Most people do this the other way around, namely they replace the buggy
FvwmTaskBar[1] with FvwmIconMan, optionally swallowed in FvwmButtons.
What is it you're asking exactly?  You want something that will imitate
FvwmButtons that isn't going to run inside FVWM?  

You need to be much more specific about your requirements if you want
help with whatever your question is.

-- Thomas Adam

[1]  Aww, truth hurting is it?

-- 
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Song, by The Monkees.



FVWM: Icons on the Desktop (should replace FvwmButton)

2006-10-31 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *,

After trying some IconManager to replace FvwmButton in Enterprises
where I am Migrating to Linux, I have the need to ask here, what
to do, since my solution should replace FvwmButton exactly.

I need configurable Left/Right-Mouse-Klick (Exec + PopUp) and xpm
support.  Preferable Icon options like Inactive and Pressed.

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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