Re: FVWM: Pager improvement suggestion

2002-08-24 Thread Tomas Ogren
On 19 August, 2002 - Dominik Vogt sent me these 1,1K bytes:

   And the current page would be updated with some interval, but the question
   is. But doing screenshots using imort is quite time consuming, so maybe
   another aproach is needed, like only updateing some of the windows each
   time...
  
  The Gnome 1.x pager does incremental screenshot line by line at a small
  delay between each screen line..
 
 And what does it do for not viewable pages?

Nothing.. until you view those pages..

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Re: FVWM: Pager improvement suggestion

2002-08-19 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 01:34:16PM +0200, Tomas Ogren wrote:
 On 17 August, 2002 - Marcus Lundblad sent me these 1,9K bytes:
 
  I guess you would have to ave the conent of a page when switching pages
  and use that as the representation, so that only the current page is more
  live
  
  And the current page would be updated with some interval, but the question
  is. But doing screenshots using imort is quite time consuming, so maybe
  another aproach is needed, like only updateing some of the windows each
  time...
 
 The Gnome 1.x pager does incremental screenshot line by line at a small
 delay between each screen line..

And what does it do for not viewable pages?

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FVWM: Pager improvement suggestion

2002-08-17 Thread Erik Steffl
Cameron Simpson wrote:
 
 On 01:58 17 Aug 2002, Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 12:02:45PM +, Saku Sammakko wrote:
 |  A humble suggestion for pager:
 |  [... app thumbnails in pager ...]
 | I'm afrai, but that feature cannot be written in X in a fashion
 | that would be actually usable.  When a window is not currently
 | visible, its contents may not be anywhere in memory, so the pager
 | cannot find out what to draw in the mini window.  And even if the
 | window is on screen, this would need ridiculous amounts of memory
 | and take so long to update that nobody would use it.  I'm sorry to
 | say this, but X simply doesn't provide an interface for background
 | drawing.
 
 I think E (or Evolution? I forget) has such a pager.

  yes, enlightenment

  I just started E and it seems to be updated with small delay
(seconds), quite impressive. Another nice (as in good looking, not sure
how useful it is) feature is the zooming of the window in pager when the
mouse is over it.

erik
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Re: FVWM: Pager improvement suggestion

2002-08-17 Thread Marcus Lundblad


On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Erik Steffl wrote:

 Cameron Simpson wrote:
  
  On 01:58 17 Aug 2002, Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  | On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 12:02:45PM +, Saku Sammakko wrote:
  |  A humble suggestion for pager:
  |  [... app thumbnails in pager ...]
  | I'm afrai, but that feature cannot be written in X in a fashion
  | that would be actually usable.  When a window is not currently
  | visible, its contents may not be anywhere in memory, so the pager
  | cannot find out what to draw in the mini window.  And even if the
  | window is on screen, this would need ridiculous amounts of memory
  | and take so long to update that nobody would use it.  I'm sorry to
  | say this, but X simply doesn't provide an interface for background
  | drawing.
  
  I think E (or Evolution? I forget) has such a pager.
 
   yes, enlightenment
 
   I just started E and it seems to be updated with small delay
 (seconds), quite impressive. Another nice (as in good looking, not sure
 how useful it is) feature is the zooming of the window in pager when the
 mouse is over it.

I guess you would have to ave the conent of a page when switching pages
and use that as the representation, so that only the current page is more
live

And the current page would be updated with some interval, but the question
is. But doing screenshots using imort is quite time consuming, so maybe
another aproach is needed, like only updateing some of the windows each
time...
 
   erik
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Re: FVWM: Pager improvement suggestion

2002-08-17 Thread Tomas Ogren
On 17 August, 2002 - Marcus Lundblad sent me these 1,9K bytes:

 I guess you would have to ave the conent of a page when switching pages
 and use that as the representation, so that only the current page is more
 live
 
 And the current page would be updated with some interval, but the question
 is. But doing screenshots using imort is quite time consuming, so maybe
 another aproach is needed, like only updateing some of the windows each
 time...

The Gnome 1.x pager does incremental screenshot line by line at a small
delay between each screen line..

/Tomas
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FVWM: Pager improvement suggestion

2002-08-16 Thread Saku Sammakko

Hi

A humble suggestion for pager:

I use pager when working with pictures as one large virtual desktop, that I 
scroll around. As I use very large windows, it is useless to only have 
window names in the pager window. It would be a nice feature to have, 
besides window name, a rough bitmap of window content in the small pager 
window windows.


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Tatu

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Re: FVWM: Pager improvement suggestion

2002-08-16 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 12:02:45PM +, Saku Sammakko wrote:
 Hi
 
 A humble suggestion for pager:
 
 I use pager when working with pictures as one large virtual desktop, that I 
 scroll around. As I use very large windows, it is useless to only have 
 window names in the pager window. It would be a nice feature to have, 
 besides window name, a rough bitmap of window content in the small pager 
 window windows.

I'm afrai, but that feature cannot be written in X in a fashion
that would be actually usable.  When a window is not currently
visible, its contents may not be anywhere in memory, so the pager
cannot find out what to draw in the mini window.  And even if the
window is on screen, this would need ridiculous amounts of memory 
and take so long to update that nobody would use it.  I'm sorry to
say this, but X simply doesn't provide an interface for background
drawing.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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