Re: birthday planning schedule

2003-04-11 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 10 Apr 2003 10:21:34 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 07:59:48AM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
 
  I think we should use the acronym spelling (FVWM) in the official
  announcements.
 
 Sigh, I can't leave this uncommented.  I am totally against
 re-introducing the FVWM vs. fvwm vs. Fvwm vs. [fF][vV][wW][mM]
 confusion again.

There are only 3 variants of spelling, not 16.
And most of the official places use and always used FVWM spelling
(web, mailing lists, cvs commits, bug tracking).

 It cost me many hours of work to reach a
 consistent state on the web pages and in all documentation I am
 aware of and I would not give it away without very good reasons.
 I don't think that it looks better in capitals qualifies as said
 kind of reason.

I didn't oppose your usage of fvwm in the middle of sentences and Fvwm
in the beggining of sentences and I continue to use this convention in
the main man page and some other technical places. Although this suggests
fvwm is not a term, but a regular English word that is not the case.
I think it would be more informative to use the convention suggested by
Olivier that only uses fvwm and FVWM to distinguish between 2 things.

Anyway, I speak here about non-technical announcements that are written
in English and any human language requires acronyms to be written as
capitals (i.e. GNU, not Gnu or gnu).

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: birthday planning schedule

2003-04-11 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 07:55:32AM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
 On 10 Apr 2003 10:21:34 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
  
  On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 07:59:48AM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
  
   I think we should use the acronym spelling (FVWM) in the official
   announcements.
  
  Sigh, I can't leave this uncommented.  I am totally against
  re-introducing the FVWM vs. fvwm vs. Fvwm vs. [fF][vV][wW][mM]
  confusion again.
 
 There are only 3 variants of spelling, not 16.
 And most of the official places use and always used FVWM spelling
 (web, mailing lists, cvs commits, bug tracking).
 
  It cost me many hours of work to reach a
  consistent state on the web pages and in all documentation I am
  aware of and I would not give it away without very good reasons.
  I don't think that it looks better in capitals qualifies as said
  kind of reason.
 
 I didn't oppose your usage of fvwm in the middle of sentences and Fvwm
 in the beggining of sentences and I continue to use this convention in
 the main man page and some other technical places. Although this suggests
 fvwm is not a term, but a regular English word that is not the case.
 I think it would be more informative to use the convention suggested by
 Olivier that only uses fvwm and FVWM to distinguish between 2 things.
 
 Anyway, I speak here about non-technical announcements that are written
 in English and any human language requires acronyms to be written as
 capitals (i.e. GNU, not Gnu or gnu).

Whatever.  I disagree completely, but as always, I can not stop
you from doing what you are going to do.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^
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Re: birthday planning schedule

2003-04-11 Thread Andre Bonhote
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 09:20:40PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
 or anyone who posted more than 20 messages on this list
 (Neil Zanella, anyone?), send a close-up photo or two to me.

Uhm, I would count myself to this group. Do you really believe that
someone wants to see the list posters?

André

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Re: birthday planning schedule

2003-04-11 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 11 Apr 2003 10:24:03 +0200, Andre Bonhote wrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 09:20:40PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
  or anyone who posted more than 20 messages on this list
  (Neil Zanella, anyone?), send a close-up photo or two to me.
 
 Uhm, I would count myself to this group. Do you really believe that
 someone wants to see the list posters?

I think without active users and supporters no project is possible.
So if you count yourself as an active supported and want to be on the
list - welcome.

Please everyone who contributed to the project, send me a picture,
so we know whom to thank. :)

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: birthday planning schedule

2003-04-10 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 04 Apr 2003 17:38:08 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 
 Second, someone has to take care of the following since I am
 determined to not lift a finger:
 
 1) April, 10th
   * Write a short announcement message for the 1st of June and
 discuss it on fvwm-workers.
   * Write the logo competition announcement message and discuss it
 on fvwm-workers.
 
Who will do this?
 
 2) Also, someone has to make a list where to send the announcements.
 
Volunteers?

Dan or someone else, can you please do this?

You may place birthday-announcement file into cvs if you decide so,
similarly to the current birthday-planing and logo-competition.

I think we should use the acronym spelling (FVWM) in the official
announcements.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: birthday planning schedule

2003-04-10 Thread Dan Espen
Mikhael Goikhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On 04 Apr 2003 17:38:08 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
  
  Second, someone has to take care of the following since I am
  determined to not lift a finger:
  
  1) April, 10th
* Write a short announcement message for the 1st of June and
  discuss it on fvwm-workers.
* Write the logo competition announcement message and discuss it
  on fvwm-workers.
  
 Who will do this?
  
  2) Also, someone has to make a list where to send the announcements.
  
 Volunteers?
 
 Dan or someone else, can you please do this?

Sorry, right now I can't.

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Re: birthday planning schedule

2003-04-04 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 04 Apr 2003 17:38:08 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 
 3) And don't forget that the old web page needs some updates too.  At
least it has to have a page with the logo contest rules.

I think we will just switch to the new web site till May 1.
So probably announcements should wait a bit until a new design is ready,
It is ok if some pages would be still html for some time.

Another optional item in your plan:

4) Gather photos of the developers.

I already have photos of 9 developers. :)
(But not Olivier, Dan, Dominik, although I know how the last 2 look.)

Please every developer who ever contributed a patch (even it was not
really applied) or anyone who posted more than 20 messages on this list
(Neil Zanella, anyone?), send a close-up photo or two to me.

I don't really know yet what we will do with them.
Probably show on Juny 1.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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