FF vs iCab

2008-11-14 Thread Stephen Conrad

Interesting...when I tried to use iCab to login to pepsistuff.com it
said I needed to upgrade my flash to version 8 yet when I then tried
FF 2.0.0.18 it worked fine.

Why would one browser say I didn't have new enough flash yet another works fine?

Steve

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Prior to cloning drive...

2008-11-14 Thread Steve R

I've decided to downgrade my G5 from Leopard to Tiger, and will be 
cloning the OS partition to a firewire drive with SuperDuper prior to 
downgrading. Is there anything I should be aware of prior to making 
the clone? I plan on running Onyx or Cocktail prior to the clone.

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Re: G5 Dual 1.8Ghz video questions

2008-11-14 Thread dc

For the money it's hard to be a GeForce 6200/256MB that has been re-
flashed to work in a Mac. I have one in my G5 DP 1.8 and it runs
flawlessly, core image  quartz extreme are hardware enabled. I paid
about $40 for the PC card then flashed it in an old Dell PC; if you
buy one ready-made they run $75-100.

On Nov 14, 1:13 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, i would like to know what is the best video card that worth
 upgrading to my G5?
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Re: OSX ate my rights!! Was: Cloning problem

2008-11-14 Thread yawg

Hi all,

Sorry for the double post. I forgot about my e-mail setup and replied
directly from the Google group.

Should have replied from my G-mail account ...

Jörg.
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TOPIC: Help! I Wanna Crack A Lacie FW CDRW Case

2008-11-14 Thread Jörg
Hi all,

Sorry for the double posts. I'll try to remember next time.

Regards, Jörg.

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Re: would a new ipod touch work on os 10.3.9?

2008-11-14 Thread hackmiester / Hunter Fuller

Sorry, but the reason that won't work is that the iPod you want to
sync is only supported on certain versions of iTunes, and Apple
doesn't allow those newer versions to run on 10.3 because that'd be
too much effort to backport. I suggest that you either just give up
and run it on Windows or that you head to versiontracker.com and find
another app that runs on 10.3 and will sync the touch (doesn't seem
likely, but whatever).

2008/11/13 vacputer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 this is a copy of my question originally posted on the imac list.
 I have os 10.3.9 running on an imac g3 rev d.
 Will a new ipod touch sync? according to apple you need 10.4

 someone answered:
 On Nov 10, 2008, at 6:52 AM, vacputer wrote:
 I have os 10.3.9 running on an imac g3 rev d.
 Will a new ipod touch sync? according to apple you need 10.4


 Well, given that they MAKE the thing. I'd go with 10.4.
 10.4.9, actually, per IT8 system reqs:
 Macintosh Software
• Mac OS X version 10.4.9 or later
• QuickTime 7.5.5 or later
• 200MB of available disk space
 10.4 will run on that iMac, though.
 --
 Bruce Johnson
 U of Az  College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group
 Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs

 that didn't really help me.
 So I replied:


 Problem is, I don't have very much money.
 I'm saving up for the touch.
 even eBay prices are too high for OS 10.4 (at least for me), and the
 system only has 128 megabytes of ram. while memory is cheaper that it
 used to be, it is still pricey.
 Also, if you could, would you please note that while I can build
 (REALLY NICE) PCs (who builds macs???) and program in both BASIC and c
 + +, just to show how low my budget is, i will mention my age. I am
 eleven years old. I don't get an allowance. Just birthday and
 Christmas money.

 yes that is my real age, and yes that is my budget!
 I need this to work! I really don't want to use this with a (really
 nice, built from scratch) PC! (honestly, how much fun is that???) my
 newest hardware is a bw powermac g3 300 that my dad recovered from
 north central university's throw this away when you find time pile
 in their basement a few years ago (there are two of them). those macs
 are the best i have. please help
 an eleven year old mac-n-dos geek be more mac than DOS. (by the way,
 did you know that an IBM PS/2 running dos 5 can get on the internet
 decently well?)


 




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Re: where do I find /var/log/install.log?

2008-11-14 Thread Paul Stamsen

Previously, at 0:57 pm -0600 11/14/08, Kris Tilford
wrote:
I wrote this above, but I'm wondering . . . I called
the little
triangle icon that expands a directory in list format
a cravat but I
think this is wrong perhaps? I know, a cravat is a
necktie, but is it
also this triangle icon? If not, what is it called?


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Re: where do I find /var/log/install.log?

2008-11-14 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Nov 13, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Brian Christmas wrote:

 G'day listers

 I recently had cause to restore my 10.5.5 system from Time Machine. In
 doing so it didn't restore my user scripts stored on the boot library/
 scripts/folder action scripts. Turned out they were saved, just not
 restored.

 I reported as a bug, but now apple want a log, with no directions on
 how to find said log.

 Can anyone tell me how to locate it please (no,spotlight doesn't work)

 This is a courtesy email regarding Bug ID# 6267014. Engineering has
 requested the following information in order to further investigate
 this issue:

 If this is reproducible, please upload a /var/log/install.log to this
 report.


/var/log is part of the infamous Unix Underbelly parts of OS X.

This is the standard place for Unix system applications to save their  
log files.

To navigate here in the Finder, select Go Go to folder and enter /var/ 
log in the box (remember /'s mean folder boundaries in Unix speak, / 
var/log is the folder log inside the folder var at the very top level  
of the system (which is normally hidden from the Finder).)



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Re: Prior to cloning drive...

2008-11-14 Thread Dan

At 8:11 AM -0500 11/14/2008, Steve R wrote:
I've decided to downgrade my G5 from Leopard to Tiger, and will be
cloning the OS partition to a firewire drive with SuperDuper prior to
downgrading. Is there anything I should be aware of prior to making
the clone? I plan on running Onyx or Cocktail prior to the clone.

I guess use OnyX to clean things up a bit.  Delete the user caches, 
run the maintenance tasks.  That will save you a little space / time 
on the the clone.  Not overly necessary tho.

As for the downgrade... how come?

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Re: Video Question

2008-11-14 Thread Dan

At 11:07 PM -0600 11/13/2008, Stephen Conrad wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to download this video?
I have tried with FF 2.0.0.18 with Download Helper and MediaPirate

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1033231.html

gah.  I tried using Safari's inspector, to dig thru the page's code 
to find the video's url.  Each time I think I've about got it, the 
whole thing goes blank!  The darned page has a reload timer on it! :\

How desperate are you to grab this?

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Re: See You Later...

2008-11-14 Thread James E. Therrault

Dan wrote:
 At 2:49 PM -0800 11/13/2008, Larry Stotler wrote:
 
Agreed.  Too many lists can drive traffic and people away.  I'm
currently subscribed to about 7 groups from LEM.
 
 
 *nod*
 
 
Maybe we should have it like this:

Old World Powermacs
New World Powermacs  iMacs
Old World Powerbooks
New World Powerbooks
MacBooks
MacPro/MacMini
68kBooks
 
 
 I'd like to see MUCH less segregation.  Instead of 21+ groups, cut it 
 to 6 or less.
 
 For hardware issues:
 
 68k Macs
 
 PPC Macs
 (I'd prefer this group didn't exist.  Most of the hardware involved 
 is not much different than the newer generations, the interfaces 
 especially.)
 
 Mac Desktops
 
 Mac Laptops
 
 
 Then for software issues:
 
 Classic Mac OS
 
 Mac OS X
 
 ...I think each group name should be prefixed with something like 
 LEM's or LowEndMac's, so that the names are consistently 
 identifiable on Google.
 
 - Dan.


Sounds like a plan!

G

JT


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Re: where do I find /var/log/install.log?

2008-11-14 Thread Clark Martin

Doug McNutt wrote:
 Actually on my box, 10.3.9, the var directory is /private/var. 
 /private is declared a hidden directory  so  Finder won't show it 
 even though it doesn't start with a dot.
 
 Infamous is clearly the correct phrase.  I'm sure the folks working 
 on the bug report have no real idea that Finder doesn't allow you to 
 just select the log file and attach it.
 
 If you need access via Finder you can create a symbolic link to the 
 /var, /etc, /tmp, and others and put the links on the root, /, 
 Finder will then let you in because it treats the links the same as 
 it would an alias.
 
 ln   -s   /private/etc   /_etc
 ln   -s   /private/var   /_var
 
 for instance. The underline can be pretty much anything but it can't 
 be a dot or a slash.

There should already be softlinks to those and other directories that 
are in /private.  The OS creates them as part of the system install.

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Re: Prior to cloning drive...

2008-11-14 Thread Dan

At 11:34 AM -0500 11/14/2008, Steve R wrote:
As for the downgrade... how come?

All my apps run well in Tiger, seem a bit slower in Leopard.

This is a 1.8 GHz iMac G5 with 3 GB RAM  (trying to glean specs from 
your posting)?  How much free disk space?

Check to make sure you're not running memory poor, given you app mix. 
Get everything going then look at the Memory pane in Activity Monitor.

This G5 has run hot from the day I got it used and with Leopard it's 
been running even hotter which probably accounts for the kernel 
panics. After the last software update I started getting kernel 
panics within the apps themselves, particularly Safari which will 
panic on the first link clicked.

The OS panics - total crash of the system, requiring a reboot.

Apps crash - the app goes belly up but the system continues.

You have a thread going that details this?  If not, hit me with the 
system, panic, and crash logs (email 'em as zipped attachements 
please, not pasted text).  I'm curious to see exactly what's causing 
it.

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Re: where do I find /var/log/install.log?

2008-11-14 Thread Al

On Nov 14, 1:27 am, Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Open UtilitiesConsole. Hit the Show Log List icon in upper left. In  
 the log list at the very bottom is /var/log/ and open it with the  
 little cravat and find install.log. Highlight and select FileSave a  
 Copy as Attach copy to the report.

I have reason to follow this because of a problem that I will write up
on the imaclist.  Anyway, on my aluminum Intel Mac with OS X 10.5.2,
install.log and four items below that are greyed out and will not
highlight to open.

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Re: G5 Dual 1.8Ghz video questions

2008-11-14 Thread insightinmind


On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:37 AM, dc wrote:


 For the money it's hard to be a GeForce 6200/256MB that has been re-
 flashed to work in a Mac. I have one in my G5 DP 1.8 and it runs
 flawlessly, core image  quartz extreme are hardware enabled. I paid
 about $40 for the PC card then flashed it in an old Dell PC; if you
 buy one ready-made they run $75-100.

A bit away from the topic ... but ... What info do you have on the  
flashing?

I'd like to find a PCI cards for my Macs ... 7000 and 9200s by ATI,  
but PCI they need to be, and flash them for the Macs.

Bill Connelly
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Re: Mail date question

2008-11-14 Thread joe


On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Doug McNutt wrote:

 At 13:48 -0600 11/11/08, Bill Arnold wrote:
 Messages received via Mail show a time on the message,
 Example: Date: November 3, 2008 10:45:14 AM CST (CA)
 The same time is shown in the Date Received pane for the mailbox  
 selected.

 What time is supposed to show for received messages,ie.time sent,
 time received by ISP server, time received by Mail on my machine?

You can display both time sent and/or time received in Mail.  (Go  
View to Columns and select which fields you want to see.)

Time sent and time received are often the same, but not always, so I  
imagine sent is something that comes from the sender's mail server  
and received is something from my incoming server.  (It definitely  
isn't when Mail receives it.  I have mine set to check the server  
only manually, so I can tell those times don't correspond to the time  
Mail connects to my server and receives the messages.)

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Re: Switching to an LCD

2008-11-14 Thread kyhardhead

I had the same problem with my BW. The LCD monitor also refused to
work when booting into OSX from 8.6 or 9.x. Zapping the PRAM fixed the
problem, but only for one boot cycle.

Check your monitor cable - some VGA cables are missing the sync-on-
green pin, as did mine. When I replaced the cable with one having a
full complement of pins, problem went away.

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Re: See You Later...

2008-11-14 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Nov 14, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote:

 Heyas, Count me among the confused!

 I am on here due to my 733 G4 but recently bought a new 2Ghz iMac for
 my son.

 But I don't know what it is, exactly, LOL!

 Um, it's a Mac. Um, it's definitely an Intel Mac. I was thinking  
 it's a
 G5 but I guess that was a brain blip. For so long G5 was the newest  
 and
 greatest. Were there Intel G5s?

No. The G5 was the last of the PowerPC chip line used by Apple, which  
was the main competitor to the INtel X86 chip line.

Sort of the Macy's and Gimbel's, Hatfield's and McCoy's or Capulet's  
and Montague's of the CPU world.


 BTW, the Macintel list does not have as many posts as this but it's a
 good list, great advice so far.


The iMac list is for the iMac questions, G3,4,5 or Intel and has a lot  
more traffic than the Macintel list which was thrown together when the  
first intel macs were announced.

As for a parents list, I don't know.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



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Re: G5 Dual 1.8Ghz video questions

2008-11-14 Thread Eric Volker


 On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:37 AM, dc wrote:


 For the money it's hard to be a GeForce 6200/256MB that has been re-
 flashed to work in a Mac. I have one in my G5 DP 1.8 and it runs
 flawlessly, core image  quartz extreme are hardware enabled. I paid
 about $40 for the PC card then flashed it in an old Dell PC; if you
 buy one ready-made they run $75-100.


I bought a flashed Radeon 9700 Pro for my dual G5, and it's worked  
flawlessly. I know, I know, I could've flashed it myself, but I  
didn't have an AGP Windows PC to do the flashing with, nor did I feel  
competent enough to determine whether or not I had a 128KB EEPROM. I  
can't comment on how the Nvidia 6200 would work, but at one point I  
did have a flashed GeForce 3 in a Quicksilver - no problems there  
either.

Good luck, whatever you decide to buy. I think the only retail Mac  
card is the 9800 Pro. However, you should be able to find at least a  
handful of real Mac cards on eBay, though they'll most likely be used.

Eric
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Need to reset password or passphrase

2008-11-14 Thread deagol

I acquired a PPC G3 recently, and when trying to upgrade the OS to
10.2.8  (from 10.2), the system asks for a password or phrase.  I
called the previous owner, whose name stilla ppears on the box, but he
could not remember what to enter.  He made a couple of suggestions,
but neither works.
Is there some way to get inside to reset or bypass the password?
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Re: Need to reset password or passphrase

2008-11-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Nov 14, 2008, at 3:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I acquired a PPC G3 recently, and when trying to upgrade the OS to
 10.2.8  (from 10.2), the system asks for a password or phrase.  I
 called the previous owner, whose name stilla ppears on the box, but he
 could not remember what to enter.  He made a couple of suggestions,
 but neither works.
 Is there some way to get inside to reset or bypass the password?


If you insert the install CD/DVD containing the OS into the optical  
drive, then start up your mac while holding down the C key, your mac  
will start up from the install disk and you can install the new OS  
without the password. Jeff

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How do I access Mailboxes?

2008-11-14 Thread deagol

On my G3, I dutifully add mailboxes to keep my messages in order, but
apart from the In, Out, Trash Drafts, and Sent,
 I can't find the mailboxes.
Those five are available by using the top bar and clicking show from
the drop-down.
The Mailboxes icon  alongside the Get Mail icon does nothing at all.
I'm sure I have tried every link, icon, etc. without success.
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Re: Need to reset password or passphrase

2008-11-14 Thread Jeffrey Engle



 Unfortunately, as is often the case with used gear, all I got was the
 'puter, kb and that was it.  No disks or other accessories.

well in that case..aren't we glad that 10.2 is really cheap these  
days. Jeff
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Re: How do I access Mailboxes?

2008-11-14 Thread Brian Christmas


On 15/11/2008, at 10:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On my G3, I dutifully add mailboxes to keep my messages in order, but
 apart from the In, Out, Trash Drafts, and Sent,
 I can't find the mailboxes.
 Those five are available by using the top bar and clicking show from
 the drop-down.
 The Mailboxes icon  alongside the Get Mail icon does nothing at all.
 I'm sure I have tried every link, icon, etc. without success.


G'day

What mail client are you using?

Regards

Santa

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Re: where do I find /var/log/install.log?

2008-11-14 Thread Brian Christmas


On 15/11/2008, at 2:31 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote:


 Previously, at 0:57 pm -0600 11/14/08, Kris Tilford
 wrote:
 I wrote this above, but I'm wondering . . . I called
 the little
 triangle icon that expands a directory in list format
 a cravat but I
 think this is wrong perhaps? I know, a cravat is a
 necktie, but is it
 also this triangle icon? If not, what is it called?


 caret
 --  
 Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies
 because they become fashions.
 -- G. K. Chesterton


G'day

According to the Characters palette, the caret symbol is the ‸ symbol

▶▼ are listed as right and down black triangles.

A Chevron comes close, being listed on the net as and upwards or  
downwards triangle.

Regards

Santa
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