what do I have?
I teach at several elementary schools. At one of my schools I have what appears to be a G4, (looks like a BW G3 enclosure), but when I start the computer, it says: G3 with PCI graphics in the start-up window. If I do an about this Mac I am told that it is a 450mhz G4. What gives? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
how can I lock G5 case ?
Hi I need to have a G5 case physically locked. We have a G5 in a room that as limited access but it was opened and the hard disk and graphic card were stolen. In order ot avoid this again we would like to lock the box and fix it on the table where it is placed. Do you know any system to lock it : locker, cable or wathever ? Thanks Louis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what do I have?
On 26 Feb 2009, at 12:09, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I teach at several elementary schools. At one of my schools I have what appears to be a G4, (looks like a BW G3 enclosure), but when I start the computer, it says: G3 with PCI graphics in the start-up window. If I do an about this Mac I am told that it is a 450mhz G4. What gives? My guess is that you have a BW with a ZIF G4 upgrade. HTH - peter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how can I lock G5 case ?
io wrote: Hi I need to have a G5 case physically locked. We have a G5 in a room that as limited access but it was opened and the hard disk and graphic card were stolen. In order ot avoid this again we would like to lock the box and fix it on the table where it is placed. Do you know any system to lock it : locker, cable or wathever ? Thanks Louis Here is a site that seems to have solved the problem! http://www.sonnettech.com/product/maccuffpro.html Dan Currie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what do I have?
Also, if it's running any version of OS 9, any custom picture can be placed in the startup window, so I would trust the system profiler. If it's grey and a dark blue-grey color, then it's probably a G4, with a misleading startup graphic, and if it's bright blue with milky white plastic, then it's probably what Peter said, I had one of those that was upgraded to a 450Mhz G4. If it's running OS X, however... it shouldn't be saying anything when it starts up but the Progress bar. -Cyrus On Feb 26, 4:18 am, Peter McCourt peter.mcco...@uit.no wrote: On 26 Feb 2009, at 12:09, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I teach at several elementary schools. At one of my schools I have what appears to be a G4, (looks like a BW G3 enclosure), but when I start the computer, it says: G3 with PCI graphics in the start-up window. If I do an about this Mac I am told that it is a 450mhz G4. What gives? My guess is that you have a BW with a ZIF G4 upgrade. HTH - peter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Safari 4 Beta
Not sure if this feature was in the older versions of Safari or not, but thought I'd pass it on anyway. I accidently hit the space bar and walla, Safari scrolled down the distance of my monitor. Still have to go back up the mountain the slow way. George Mac OS X 10.5.6 Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Beta
Shift-space to go up. On Feb 26, 2009, at 9:59 AM, George R. Hozendorf wrote: Not sure if this feature was in the older versions of Safari or not, but thought I'd pass it on anyway. I accidently hit the space bar and walla, Safari scrolled down the distance of my monitor. Still have to go back up the mountain the slow way. George Mac OS X 10.5.6 Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what do I have?
On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I teach at several elementary schools. At one of my schools I have what appears to be a G4, (looks like a BW G3 enclosure), but when I start the computer, it says: G3 with PCI graphics in the start-up window. If I do an about this Mac I am told that it is a 450mhz G4. What gives?---~~--~--~--- My Yikes! PCI Graphics is overclocked to 450, and reads: Machine Name: Power Mac G3 (PCI graphics) Machine Model: PowerMac1,2 CPU Type:PowerPC G4 (2.6) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 450 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 1 GB Bus Speed: 100 MHz Boot ROM Version:1.1.2f2 It ordinarily would say 400MHz ... but I changed it to 450 using its jumpers. Its a G4 but its machine name is G3 ... was trying to remember why ... maybe uses the same mobo as its predecessor, but has a G4 cpu on it instead of a G3 ... something like that ... here's LEM info on my machine: http://lowendmac.com/ppc/yikes-power-mac-g4-pci.html Here's info on G3s: http://lowendmac.com/ppc/blue-white-power-mac-g3.html Also a good (free) source for info on unmodified Macs: http://www.mactracker.ca/ Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what do I have?
On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:09 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I teach at several elementary schools. At one of my schools I have what appears to be a G4, (looks like a BW G3 enclosure), but when I start the computer, it says: G3 with PCI graphics in the start-up window. If I do an about this Mac I am told that it is a 450mhz G4. If it looks like a BW G3 enclosure, but is gray and white, you have a Yikes model G4 which was made for a couple of months until Apple got their real G4 introductory model out of the door. It's been upgraded or overclocked if it's running at 450 mHz http://lowendmac.com/ppc/yikes-power-mac-g4-pci.html They were essentially a BW with a gray and white case and a G4 processor instead of a G3. (The code name is pretty obvious in origin. Oh NO! Steve promised a G4 by October and the one we're working on isn't ready! Yikes!! Quick, grab some G4 chips, that stack of BW's over there and some gray spray paint! Quick! Before Steve catches us!!) If it's a blue white case, then you have a G4 upgraded BW. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Beta
On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:59 AM, George R.Hozendorf wrote: Not sure if this feature was in the older versions of Safari or not, but thought I'd pass it on anyway. I accidently hit the space bar and walla, Safari scrolled down the distance of my monitor. Still have to go back up the mountain the slow way. It does work that way in older versions... Hit the shift bar and the space bar and Safari will scroll back up. Wilton -- Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G3 Smurf file server - advice required
Hi listers, I've decided to (attempt to) convert my rarely used G3 400mhz into a media file server (music and video) as I've not been at all impressed with the NAS boxes I've tried/researched, but I could do with a little help. The intention is to upgrade it to gigabit ethernet and also use a sata card for controlling 4 hd's arranged as a Raid 1+0 array using 10.3 server os. I intend using an existing IDE hd as the boot volume and dedicate the sata drives to storage, bypassing the need to upgrade the ATA controller with its drive size limits. I have 2 'U' brackets to use so that I can fit the 4 sata hds required for the array. I have 3 immediate issues I would like help with:- 1. Will 400mhz be enough for my intended purpose or do I need to upgrade the cpu. 2. Could I make do with the original psu and use molex-sata power adapters to power the sata hds or should I replace the psu with one that has more grunt and sata power built in? 3. I'm having problems finding a decent SATA card with 4 connectors, the only one I've found so far is this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SATA-Raid-PCI-Card-with-4x-Internal-Ports-for-PowerMac_W0QQitemZ270344385311QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Apple_Mac_Accessories?hash=item270344385311_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1690|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Apologies for the long link, tinyurl won't provide a working shortened version, the item no. on eBay UK is 270344385311. Does anyone have any experience of these cards and are they any good? Many thanks guku :-D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 Smurf file server - advice required
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/SATA1V4/ --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Gukumatz ivan...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Gukumatz ivan...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: G3 Smurf file server - advice required To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:32 AM Hi listers, I've decided to (attempt to) convert my rarely used G3 400mhz into a media file server (music and video) as I've not been at all impressed with the NAS boxes I've tried/researched, but I could do with a little help. The intention is to upgrade it to gigabit ethernet and also use a sata card for controlling 4 hd's arranged as a Raid 1+0 array using 10.3 server os. I intend using an existing IDE hd as the boot volume and dedicate the sata drives to storage, bypassing the need to upgrade the ATA controller with its drive size limits. I have 2 'U' brackets to use so that I can fit the 4 sata hds required for the array. I have 3 immediate issues I would like help with:- 1. Will 400mhz be enough for my intended purpose or do I need to upgrade the cpu. 2. Could I make do with the original psu and use molex-sata power adapters to power the sata hds or should I replace the psu with one that has more grunt and sata power built in? 3. I'm having problems finding a decent SATA card with 4 connectors, the only one I've found so far is this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SATA-Raid-PCI-Card-with-4x-Internal-Ports-for-PowerMac_W0QQitemZ270344385311QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Apple_Mac_Accessories?hash=item270344385311_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1690|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Apologies for the long link, tinyurl won't provide a working shortened version, the item no. on eBay UK is 270344385311. Does anyone have any experience of these cards and are they any good? Many thanks guku :-D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
cucusoft.com
I have researched programs for converting the DVDs' I already have to MP4 format to play on my iPod Classic 120GB and itunes and www.cucusoft.com was the best rated program out there from what I read. Has anyone of you out there tried cucusoft and does it work as good as it is said to work? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: cucusoft.com
On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: I have researched programs for converting the DVDs' I already have to MP4 format to play on my iPod Classic 120GB and itunes and www.cucusoft.com was the best rated program out there from what I read. Has anyone of you out there tried cucusoft and does it work as good as it is said to work? Why pay for something Handbrake does for free? http://handbrake.fr/ (And does quite well, I might add!) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: cucusoft.com
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: I have researched programs for converting the DVDs' I already have to MP4 format to play on my iPod Classic 120GB and itunes and www.cucusoft.com was the best rated program out there from what I read. Has anyone of you out there tried cucusoft and does it work as good as it is said to work? Why pay for something Handbrake does for free? http://handbrake.fr/ (And does quite well, I might add!) Good one Bruce, very good one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what do I have?
what's the start-up window?. never seen it,
despite having worked on more than 150
g3 and g4 machines,
the G3 case is either :
1/ {a light beige color.older beige G3 } ,
or :
2/ {a slightly greenish, translucent blue with translucent white. AKA
blue and white G3}.
the early G4 case is:
{a translucent grey with translucent white,. AKA graphite G4}
there were later G4's, with a different appearance, but not with a 450MHz CPU.
there's a small quantity of G4's with PCI in the description, but
most are AGP instead, and you cannot tell by the case.
you MUST know which if you wish to buy CPU upgrades.
there's specs on a sticker on the back of any of these. also a family
number beginning with M (follwed by around 4 numerals) that you can
google for more information.
it is indeed possible that this is a G3 with a G4 upgrade.
On 2/26/09, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote:
I teach at several elementary schools. At one of my schools I have
what appears to be a G4, (looks like a BW G3 enclosure), but when I
start the computer, it says: G3 with PCI graphics in the start-up
window.
If I do an about this Mac I am told that it is a 450mhz G4.
What gives?
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Re: what do I have?
there's specs on a sticker on the back of any of these. also a family number beginning with M (follwed by around 4 numerals) that you can google for more information. There's a special website where you can input one of those numbers on the back, and it will tell you what machine you have. Anyone remember what it is? I believe its in Danish or German? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
Worked flawlessly for many years. Now, without any warning, it just stopped. Won't power up at all, no sign of life whatsoever. Any suggestions where to start? Thanks! Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 Smurf file server - advice required
On 26 Feb, 16:43, Mike Baker psufa...@yahoo.com wrote: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/SATA1V4/ --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Gukumatz ivan...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Gukumatz ivan...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: G3 Smurf file server - advice required To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 11:32 AM Hi listers, snip Thanks for the reply mike, that's exactly what I need but rather pricey for my present budget which was why I was hoping to find one on eBay. Do you by any chance know what chipset the FirmTek card uses? There doesn't seem to be any info on the website regarding this. I've discovered since my original post that the card on eBay is made by Syba and has a sil3124 chipset but I would still like to know if anyone has any experience of using one of these in a Mac? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 Smurf file server - advice required
On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Gukumatz wrote: Hi listers, I've decided to (attempt to) convert my rarely used G3 400mhz into a media file server (music and video) as I've not been at all impressed with the NAS boxes I've tried/researched, but I could do with a little help. The intention is to upgrade it to gigabit ethernet and also use a sata card for controlling 4 hd's arranged as a Raid 1+0 array using 10.3 server os. I intend using an existing IDE hd as the boot volume and dedicate the sata drives to storage, bypassing the need to upgrade the ATA controller with its drive size limits. I have 2 'U' brackets to use so that I can fit the 4 sata hds required for the array. I have 3 immediate issues I would like help with:- 1. Will 400mhz be enough for my intended purpose or do I need to upgrade the cpu. 2. Could I make do with the original psu and use molex-sata power adapters to power the sata hds or should I replace the psu with one that has more grunt and sata power built in? 3. I'm having problems finding a decent SATA card with 4 connectors, the only one I've found so far is this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SATA-Raid-PCI-Card-with-4x-Internal-Ports-for- PowerMac_W0QQitemZ270344385311QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Apple_Ma c_Accessories? hash=item270344385311_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1690|66% 3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Apologies for the long link, tinyurl won't provide a working shortened version, the item no. on eBay UK is 270344385311. Does anyone have any experience of these cards and are they any good? Many thanks guku :-D Hi guku, I did what you're planning to do, but mine was a 350 Mhz BW and I used an ATA controller card with 4 data drives and 1 boot HD. It was a nightmare of cables, but it worked fine otherwise. I used this setup for 6-8 months before I got a deal on 2 DA's (533 Mhz) and decided to upgrade as the DA has a faster bus and gigabit ethernet built in. At the same time I also upgraded to a 4 port SATA card with 4-300 Gb SATA HD's. At first I ran it with all the drives inside the case, but decided to go with long SATA cables and an external case for the 4 data drives. The next planned upgrade will be to 2-1 Tb drives, but I'm waiting for the price to drop a bit more. BTW, I use ChronoSync 4 to keep the backup drives current HTH . 1st Hack: GA-945GCMX-S2 - E4500 CPU (2.2 Ghz) - 2 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 2nd Hack: GA-P35-DS3L (V2) - E8400 CPU (3.0 Ghz -45nm) - 4 Gb RAM - 7200 GS (256 Mb) 3rd Hack: MSI Wind Desktop PC - 945GC - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz CPU - 2 Gb RAM 4th Hack: GA-EP45-UD3P - Q9550 (2.83 Ghz C2 Quad) - 8 Gb RAM - 8400 GS (256 Mb) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:53 PM, BillBoggs wrote: Worked flawlessly for many years. Now, without any warning, it just stopped. Won't power up at all, no sign of life whatsoever. Any suggestions where to start? Is it plugged in? Is it plugged all the way in? Did a cat step on the power strip it's plugged into? (Don't laugh, I'm not being patronizing, each and every one of these is something that's happened to me ;-) Some Macs, and I don't know if the DA is one, will act like this when the mobo battery gets too low. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
BillBoggs wrote: Worked flawlessly for many years. Now, without any warning, it just stopped. Won't power up at all, no sign of life whatsoever. Any suggestions where to start? Thanks! Bill I will start with checking the power supply. Got a multi-meter? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what do I have?
On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:27 PM, insightinmind wrote: there's specs on a sticker on the back of any of these. also a family number beginning with M (follwed by around 4 numerals) that you can google for more information. There's a special website where you can input one of those numbers on the back, and it will tell you what machine you have. Anyone remember what it is? I believe its in Danish or German? chipmunk.nl is all I remember of it... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
Maybe a Circuit Breaker is off in your home's electrical box? Maybe a power strip needs resetting? replacement? Try another one, in another wall outlet? Some Macs, and I don't know if the DA is one, will act like this when the mobo battery gets too low. Here's instruction on how to replace the psu ... not that that is the problem, just might be of interest: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA26054 Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
Greetings ( + )!( + ) The easiest way to check an A/C power source is to plug a lamp into the place where the mac is plugged. Not the same power strip but the same socket. Best regards, Harry San Jose, ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø On Feb 26, 2:07 pm, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Maybe a Circuit Breaker is off in your home's electrical box? Maybe a power strip needs resetting? replacement? Try another one, in another wall outlet? Some Macs, and I don't know if the DA is one, will act like this when the mobo battery gets too low. Here's instruction on how to replace the psu ... not that that is the problem, just might be of interest:http://support.apple.com/kb/TA26054 Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:53 PM, BillBoggs wrote: Worked flawlessly for many years. Now, without any warning, it just stopped. Won't power up at all, no sign of life whatsoever. Any suggestions where to start? Thanks! Bill My first though here is a dead pram battery. If you can't get an official exact match, a 1/2 AA will barely fit and work fine. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
I'd try the following hardware tests in this order (from least costly to most costly): 1. PRAM Battery 2. Power Supply 3. Processor As others have said, double-check all your connections/power plugs. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
Another thing to check is the voltage specifier on the powersupply, (little red switch next to where the cord goes in) it might have gotten set to 230 instead of 115. And then just try the usual, different outlet/power cord. If none of that, I would guess it's the power supply. -Cyrus On Feb 26, 1:53 pm, BillBoggs billbo...@mac.com wrote: Worked flawlessly for many years. Now, without any warning, it just stopped. Won't power up at all, no sign of life whatsoever. Any suggestions where to start? Thanks! Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Yamaha CRW4260TX Compatibility with G3
I have a chance to pick up a used Yamaha external SCSI CD-RW burner, model CRW4260TX (4x2x6x). To my knowledge, it is a 50-pin SCSI-1. Would this old Yamaha be a good match and compatible under MacOS 9 on the G3 or if not what more recent and faster models would be compatible? I do have a SCSI-2 card installed. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yamaha CRW4260TX Compatibility with G3
Correction! I'm now told it is a SCSI-2 device, not SCSI-1 as I first stated. Sorry about that. On Feb 26, 3:48 pm, Will_i_am wmhatch...@gmail.com wrote: I have a chance to pick up a used Yamaha external SCSI CD-RW burner, model CRW4260TX (4x2x6x). To my knowledge, it is a 50-pin SCSI-1. Would this old Yamaha be a good match and compatible under MacOS 9 on the G3 or if not what more recent and faster models would be compatible? I do have a SCSI-2 card installed. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yamaha CRW4260TX Compatibility with G3
On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Will_i_am wrote: I have a chance to pick up a used Yamaha external SCSI CD-RW burner, model CRW4260TX (4x2x6x). To my knowledge, it is a 50-pin SCSI-1. Would this old Yamaha be a good match and compatible under MacOS 9 on the G3 or if not what more recent and faster models would be compatible? I do have a SCSI-2 card installed. Thanks! I've had nothing but trouble with old SCSI CD-RWs. Most are old and pre-standardization, and software such as Toast quit supporting SCSI a LONG time ago, so this means you'd need to find legacy software to function, and even then, most modern discs are a completely different animal than the 650MB discs manufactured back then. My advise: By a cheap PCI Firewire 400 card for your G3 and get yourself a modern Firewire external DVD-RW (or CD-RW). Almost any external FW enclosure should work with any modern DVD-RW unit. If you're using OS X, you shouldn't need any extra software other than perhaps Patchburn (freeware). If you're using OS 9, you're really going to be hamstrung anyways since the latest OS 9 software was Toast 5. If you're using SCSI, the last was Toast 4. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
try hitting the reset button on the mother board. also clean ram and processor slots.-Jonas On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Cyrus callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: Another thing to check is the voltage specifier on the powersupply, (little red switch next to where the cord goes in) it might have gotten set to 230 instead of 115. And then just try the usual, different outlet/power cord. If none of that, I would guess it's the power supply. -Cyrus On Feb 26, 1:53 pm, BillBoggs billbo...@mac.com wrote: Worked flawlessly for many years. Now, without any warning, it just stopped. Won't power up at all, no sign of life whatsoever. Any suggestions where to start? Thanks! Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Beta
On Feb 26, 2009, at 9:59 AM, George R. Hozendorf wrote: Not sure if this feature was in the older versions of Safari or not, but thought I'd pass it on anyway. I accidently hit the space bar and walla, Safari scrolled down the distance of my monitor. Still have to go back up the mountain the slow way. Scroll up . . . use the shift key and space bar together. Deaner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what do I have?
http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html On 2/26/09 4:54 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:27 PM, insightinmind wrote: there's specs on a sticker on the back of any of these. also a family number beginning with M (follwed by around 4 numerals) that you can google for more information. There's a special website where you can input one of those numbers on the back, and it will tell you what machine you have. Anyone remember what it is? I believe its in Danish or German? chipmunk.nl is all I remember of it... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how can I lock G5 case ?
On the back of the computer near the top left there is a lever that pulls out (the one you use to release the side panel) flip it, push it back in and you slide a lock with a bike chain/cable, laptop style cable or just the chain attached to a rather larger attack gerbil through it and they will no longer have access to the inside of the machine. We have used the bike cable and lock before, run through the table legs. mr bluellama...@embarqmail.com On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:19 AM, io wrote: Hi I need to have a G5 case physically locked. We have a G5 in a room that as limited access but it was opened and the hard disk and graphic card were stolen. In order ot avoid this again we would like to lock the box and fix it on the table where it is placed. Do you know any system to lock it : locker, cable or wathever ? Thanks Louis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clamshell issues??
if it has os9 on it, you can boot it up with the extensions disabled, (holding down the shift key) and disable extensions in groups until you get a clean boot, there may be one that is hanging the system. as far as osx, as was recommended by another on this topic, the verbose mode may also clue you in as to what is going wrong. Good Luck. On Feb 23, 6:02 pm, jonas ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 366MHZ firewire clamshell that i cheaply acquired. It will only startup in safe boot in 9.2, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4. It passed the apple hardware test and i put in a new ram chip but no change. -Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
