Re: Native resolution of LCD monitors?

2009-05-16 Thread Paul

Many, if not all, LCD monitors have a single best resolution and
frequency. This resolution tends to be the highest possible for the
monitor, and the frequency is often 60 Hz. If you're trying to find it
out without looking up the documentation, there might be software to
query it and display it, or you could just use trial and error.

LCD monitors tend not to support a lot of frequencies. Higher
frequencies aren't necessary to avoid flicker, because of the higher
persistence of the image over CRT's. 60 Hz will almost always work.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: G4 (PCI Graphics) and power Supplies

2009-05-16 Thread Paul

At least some (if not all) of the turquoise (B/W) G3 towers had the
same power supply. And I think the AGP G4 tower also had the same one.
Some of these may have more wattage, but the plugs/pins should match.

The Gigabit and Digital Audio models have power supplies that are
compatible with each other, but they won't work with the previous
models.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: G4 Graphite Video Card Upgrade

2009-05-16 Thread Paul

Before spending any money, make sure you know where the bottleneck
really is. And give more information on what you mean by very slow
at displaying screens.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Native resolution of LCD monitors?

2009-05-16 Thread PeterH


On May 16, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Paul wrote:

 Many, if not all, LCD monitors have a single best resolution and
 frequency.

Many, if not all, monitors of ANY TYPE have a single best resolution  
and frequency, moreso with CRTs than with LCDs, however.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Native resolution of LCD monitors?

2009-05-16 Thread dorayme

 From: Clark Martin


 dorayme wrote:
 At long last, I got a better card than the original that came with my
 QS 933, clearing the way for me to get a bigger screen.

 But one thing that is puzzling is how to find out the native
 resolution of my screens without digging out the documentation. 

 Without check the manf data you'll never really know if the card is
 outputing the maximum resolution of the display.  A simple google  
 search
 of the model number yielded a screen resolution of 1680 x 1050.


Thanks both you and PeterH. It looks like it is throwing up what I am  
calling the native res of the screen and I have changed to 1280 x  
1050 and it looks fine. (It will do. But my thoughts are turning to  
bigger and better screens now that I have this fancier card).

When you put the computer to sleep or the display to sleep (when it  
goes blank, not just screensaver) I assume the fan on the graphics  
card stops in both of these situations?

--
dorayme




--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Native resolution of LCD monitors?

2009-05-16 Thread Paul

On May 16, 3:41 pm, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote:
 On May 16, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Paul wrote:

  Many, if not all, LCD monitors have a single best resolution and
  frequency.

 Many, if not all, monitors of ANY TYPE have a single best resolution  
 and frequency, moreso with CRTs than with LCDs, however.



I've usually gotten a very good picture using more than one resolution
on a CRT, but I haven't yet found more than one clean-looking
resolution on an LCD monitor. With an LCD, I think what they do is
cluster a few pixels into one to handle anything less than the maximum
resolution. That makes the view somewhat fuzzy.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Native resolution of LCD monitors?

2009-05-16 Thread Paul

One way to tell if the fan stops is to open the case and take a peek.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Native resolution of LCD monitors?

2009-05-16 Thread Clark Martin

PeterH wrote:
 
 On May 16, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Paul wrote:
 
 Many, if not all, LCD monitors have a single best resolution and
 frequency.
 
 Many, if not all, monitors of ANY TYPE have a single best resolution  
 and frequency, moreso with CRTs than with LCDs, however.

Other way around.  CRTs have no inherent resolution, LCDs.  LCDs have an 
exact number of pixels, x and y.  CRTs can display pixels over a wide 
range and frequently their highest possible resolution isn't their best 
resolution.  And which resolution is best is dependent the user.


-- 
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Native resolution of LCD monitors?

2009-05-16 Thread Clark Martin

dorayme wrote:
 From: Clark Martin


 dorayme wrote:
 At long last, I got a better card than the original that came with my
 QS 933, clearing the way for me to get a bigger screen.

 But one thing that is puzzling is how to find out the native
 resolution of my screens without digging out the documentation. 

 Without check the manf data you'll never really know if the card is
 outputing the maximum resolution of the display.  A simple google  
 search
 of the model number yielded a screen resolution of 1680 x 1050.

 
 Thanks both you and PeterH. It looks like it is throwing up what I am  
 calling the native res of the screen and I have changed to 1280 x  
 1050 and it looks fine. (It will do. But my thoughts are turning to  
 bigger and better screens now that I have this fancier card).
 
 When you put the computer to sleep or the display to sleep (when it  
 goes blank, not just screensaver) I assume the fan on the graphics  
 card stops in both of these situations?

The fan will definitely stop when the computer is asleep.  I don't think 
it would stop when the display is asleep.  While the display isn't 
showing anything the video card is still processing information and 
putting pixels in the display buffer.

-- 
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Native resolution of LCD monitors?

2009-05-16 Thread PeterH


On May 16, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Clark Martin wrote:

 CRTs have no inherent resolution ...

Sure they do.

They either have one and only one horizontal sweep frequency and one  
and only one vertical sweep frequency, or they have sets of  
horizontal and sets of vertical sweep frequencies which are detected  
by the interface and automatically switched by adding or deleting  
resonant elements, usually capacitors, to select the new frequencies.

There is a limited capture range for each set of frequencies.



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a 
group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on 
Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en
Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---