Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
Use OWC program for backwards compatability. On 7/10/09, Nick Burman nbur...@gmail.com wrote: I tried installing Tiger on a Beige (yes it's beige) PowerMac G3. After the install failed, and I got a pile of error messages on the screen, I realised it wasn't worth the effort and now want to install Jaguar on it again. I tried wiping the hard drive (from another machine, in an external enclosure) but the thing still won't startup. Holding down the C key gets me the happy mac icon, then it restarts. Then it loops restarting endlessly. I tried reseting nvram (reset-nvram) and restarting with Cmd Opt P-R. but I get the same results. Anyone know how to make this Mac startup from a CDROM so I can install Jaguar? ~Nick -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Sonnet Encore ZIF G4
I bought a Sonnet Tech Encore ZIF G4 Processor Upgrade Card for my Power Mac G3, but it (the power mac) crashed. I'm planning to buy a Power Mac G4 AGP graphics to replace my old G3. My question is: does my Sonnet Card work with this computer? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
Use OWC program for backwards compatability. On 7/10/09, Nick Burman nbur...@gmail.com wrote: I tried installing Tiger on a Beige (yes it's beige) PowerMac G3. After the install failed, and I got a pile of error messages on the screen, I realised it wasn't worth the effort and now want to install Jaguar on it again. I tried wiping the hard drive (from another machine, in an external enclosure) but the thing still won't startup. Holding down the C key gets me the happy mac icon, then it restarts. Then it loops restarting endlessly. I tried reseting nvram (reset-nvram) and restarting with Cmd Opt P-R. but I get the same results. Anyone know how to make this Mac startup from a CDROM so I can install Jaguar? ~Nick The Beige G3 will not allow an installation of any version of OSX other than 10.2.8, unless you use XPostFacto. I was able to run 10.4.11 on my Beige, but the installation was not easy. Larry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Airport N + dialup?
I'm thinking about buying an Airport Extreme N to use its ability to mount usb disks. (According to a detailed review, it can mount multilple usb disks through a hub. Has anyone tried this?) Problem is, I need a dial-up modem. Currently I use a disk shaped Airport Extreme g with a built in modem. Will the N Airport access a usb modem through its usb disk port, through a usb hub (so I can use drives too?) Or if I network my old Airport g with the Airport N, will I easily be able to access the dialup modem in the older Airport? We can't wait to get broadband out here Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Airport N + dialup?
You can simply plug your older AirPort into the N AirPort's WAN port, and set the N AirPort to get it's internet connection through DHCP. Chance On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 9:50 AM, starrf...@valley.netstarrf...@valley.net wrote: I'm thinking about buying an Airport Extreme N to use its ability to mount usb disks. (According to a detailed review, it can mount multilple usb disks through a hub. Has anyone tried this?) Problem is, I need a dial-up modem. Currently I use a disk shaped Airport Extreme g with a built in modem. Will the N Airport access a usb modem through its usb disk port, through a usb hub (so I can use drives too?) Or if I network my old Airport g with the Airport N, will I easily be able to access the dialup modem in the older Airport? We can't wait to get broadband out here Rich -- Chance Reecher 765-4609 491-2286 cnrtechh...@gmail.com AIM: cnrtechhead --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sonnet Encore ZIF G4
On Jul 11, 7:16 am, Lodewijk lodewijk...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm planning to buy a Power Mac G4 AGP graphics to replace my old G3. My question is: does my Sonnet Card work with this computer? No, the only G4 that can take a ZIF processor from a G3 is the PCI Graphics (Yikes) model. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sonnet Encore ZIF G4
Lodewijk wrote: I bought a Sonnet Tech Encore ZIF G4 Processor Upgrade Card for my Power Mac G3, but it (the power mac) crashed. I'm planning to buy a Power Mac G4 AGP graphics to replace my old G3. My question is: does my Sonnet Card work with this computer? In a word, no. The G4 does not have the same ZIF socket as the G3. G4 CPUs are on a daughtercard. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Airport N + dialup?
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Chance Reechercnrtechh...@gmail.com wrote: You can simply plug your older AirPort into the N AirPort's WAN port, and set the N AirPort to get it's internet connection through DHCP. While I am not hands on familiar with either of these AirPort routers, the suggested procedure of using the WAN point to connect the routers seems a little off to me. Even if it works, you'd still be using NAT (and DHCP?) in both routers. That would frankly confuse the heck of me, if not also the routers. You could also try looking at this article for suggestions on how to setup additional routers as Access Points added to an existing DHCP/NAT router. The article is targeted at non-Apple products so I don't know how well it will translate for you to Apple's approach at configuring wireless aka AirPort. I would expect the concepts to also apply to the Apple devices even if the terminology is different. How To Convert a Wireless Router into an Access Point http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30338/228/ By the way, anyone know why on earth Apple insists on referring to wireless as AirPort? Is this just plain heels dug in stubbornness à la Steve Jobs or does some useful corporate (legal?) advantage follow from this? -irrational john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
igoogle gadgets
I have several igoogle gadgets I'm trying to get rid of but don't know how. Any takers? TIA. Pete. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
On Jul 10, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Po-en Tsai wrote: On 11/07/2009, at 12:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Yank the pram battery. Press the CUDA switch. Wait 15 minutes, re- insert PRAM battery, press cuda switch again, boot. In the quoted post, Bruce says to press the CUDA button twice between a boot. According to the Apple Help Documents, it mentions clearly that you must ONLY press the CUDA button ONCE between boot up. Maybe I am wrong? Note the first instruction, yank the battery Pressing the CUDA discharges any remaining charge in the PRAM circuit. Then after the wait time, pluge the battery back in, and press it once. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Digital Camera Question
I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2. Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it. How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm that I want to share with family and the local news. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
On 7/10/09 9:11 PM, Nick Burman at nbur...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know how to make this Mac startup from a CDROM so I can install Jaguar? Hi Nick, Well, I am running here Mac OS 10.4 on a Beige G3 with 512MB RAM, and without graphics card (using the 6MB VRAM motherboard video port). The first time I tried to install 10.4 I'e got similar problems to what you're relating here, but then I tried a different methot and it worked. Here's the recipe: 1. I've partitioned my 80GB Samsung HD in two halves: one with aprox. 7.7GB and other with aprox. 66.7GB; 2. Then I installed Mac OS 9.1 in the 66.7GB partition; 3. I've downloaded XPostFacto and put it at the root of the 7.7GB partition; 4. Then I installed Mac OS 10.2 (the last X release to work natively on Beige G3s) on the 7.7 partition. 5. After going trough all the of 10.2 install process, I've booted trough it and used Softwer Update to install the security updates, the Mac OS 9.2.1, 9.2.2 and Classic Environment updates and the combo 10.2 - 10.2.8 update. 6. Before restarting in 10.2.8, I've removed the buggy ATI Driver ; 7. After rebooting in 10.2.8, I rebooted again in Mac OS 9 holding the Option key after the boot sound; 8. In Mac OS 9, I went to XPostFacto to select the 7.7GB partition to install 10.4 over it, rebooting trough the Mac OS 1.4 Tiger install DVD; 9. *The most important thing*: I've made a DIRTY install of Mac OS 10.4, updating the previous Jaguar folders instead of replacing it. This way, the drivers responsible for controlling hardware aspects sepcifical to your Beige G3 (which aren't present in the 10.4) will be mantained. 10. Voilá! You got a Beige G3 running Tiger smoothly. Now install the Tiger security, Java, QuickTime, iTunes and Safari updates and be happy...;-) -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
