Re: Next for PPC? (Sorry, VERY long post)

2009-09-03 Thread Paul Kemner
Distro-hopping is probably the biggest reason people spend a lot of time
working on their computer with linux. There are new distros coming out every
week, and if you have a fast internet connection it's easy to download the
ones that sound appealing and burn a live cd. If you decide to install it,
then you spend time setting everything up the way you want it. You'd only do
that once every few years with Windows or OS X. The number of specialty
distros is getting crazy. I'm waiting for one geared to ophicleide and
serpent players, but when it comes out it will probably be for left-handed
green-eyed ophicleide and serpent players!
everything just works, hunh? Here's a challenge for you: Get a handspring
visor pda, and get it to sync with OS X Tiger. Go ahead, I double dog dare
you. (then tell me everything you did in detail that you did so I can
reproduce it)

I've just had it with commercial software. I'm making 1/10 the dough I was
in pre-crash days, so I can't just go out and plunk down more money to keep
software I've already bought.

As an example from the PC side- I had spent serious money buying Finale and
Gigastudio- two music applications that I could use to type in musical
accompaniments and play them with samples of 17th-century harpsichords and
organs and 18th-century fortepiano. Two years later, my antivirus program
said I had to upgrade to XP, and all the music software croaked. I could
have spent several hundred dollars to upgrade to the newest version, but how
long would it be before it happened again?

I like the old mac hardware ( 450 DV iMac and dual 1.42 MDD G4 ) and Tiger,
but I'm not running ANY commercial applications on any computer I own.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Question regarding non-mac monitors/display

2009-09-03 Thread Swigart, Kurt A [NTK]
Hello,


Quick question, request for advice. I was wondering what are some of the pros 
and cons and/or pieces ( cables/etc...) that I would need to hook up a 
non-apple display to a G5 Quad? Is this even possible? The monitor I am looking 
at does have a DVI port. Thanks in advance.




  
This e-mail may contain Sprint Nextel Company proprietary information intended 
for the sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. If you 
are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies 
of the message.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Linux on PPC- which distro? ... and G3 project.

2009-09-03 Thread Paul Kemner
For the people who are using linux on a PPC computer, which distro do you
use? Yellowdog? Fedora? What? Why?
Any experience with Crux-PPC http://www.cruxppc.org/ ?? Here's why:

I'm involved with a nonprofit that takes donations of (mostly pc) computers,
refurbishes them, and gives them to people who can't afford one, and to
nonprofits. Mostly we get PC's, wipe the drives and install some version of
linux. But...

Sometimes we get old G3 iMacs. Sometimes the HD is gone, but we've got spare
drives sitting around. I'm not sure of the legality of installing OS X or 9
willy-nilly on these boxes, and some of them are a bit problematical for
general-use due to a lack of a modern browser.

With some pc's, we install Quimo http://www.qimo4kids.com/ , an operating
system designed for kids to use.

I'd like to come up with a good kids system for the G3, and CruxPPC sounds
like it's still active and lightweight. The
gComprishttp://gcompris.net/-en-games would be a good starting
point.

Is there anyone around that can help?

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Question regarding non-mac monitors/display

2009-09-03 Thread Ted Treen






From: Swigart, Kurt A [NTK] kurt.a.swig...@sprint.com

Subject: Question regarding non-mac monitors/display

 Hello,
 
 
Quick question, request for advice. I was wondering what are some of the pros 
and cons and/or pieces ( cables/etc…) that I would need to hook up a non-apple 
display to a G5 Quad? Is this even possible? The monitor I am looking at does 
have a DVI port.
Thanks in advance.
 
 

  _
Hi Kurt,

All you need is a DVI-DVI cable and that's it.

Pros are that non-Apple monitors are cheaper

Cons are that you need to check the quality is OK for your needs.

That's all.

Good luck with it,

Ted

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Linux on PPC- which distro? ... and G3 project.

2009-09-03 Thread Dan

At 9:07 AM -0400 9/3/2009, Paul Kemner wrote:

Sometimes we get old G3 iMacs. Sometimes the HD is gone, but we've 
got spare drives sitting around. I'm not sure of the legality of 
installing OS X or 9 willy-nilly on these boxes

Look up the exact Mac model on lowendmac.com or everymac.com, to find 
out the original version of the OS that shipped with it.  Then just 
slap that onto the HD.  The original license is non-transferrable, 
even if the original (CD/DVD) discs are AWOL.  Replacement discs, 
btw, which include bundled apps, can often be obtained from Apple for 
free or just shipping costs.

and some of them are a bit problematical for general-use due to a 
lack of a modern browser.

For OS 9, use Classzilla - an updated Mozilla (Firefox).

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Next for PPC? (Sorry, VERY long post)

2009-09-03 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:22 AM, Paul Kemner wrote:

 everything just works, hunh? Here's a challenge for you: Get a  
 handspring
 visor pda, and get it to sync with OS X Tiger. Go ahead, I double  
 dog dare
 you. (then tell me everything you did in detail that you did so I can
 reproduce it)


Well, I don't know about 10.4, but I've synched a number of Palm-based  
devices (including the oddball Garmin GPS/PDA iQue) with my Mac using  
the iSync Palm conduit, and Palm's software.

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/isyncpalmconduit.html
 
 

and specifically for the visor here:

http://www.visorcentral.com/content/Stories/1472-1.htm

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Next for PPC? (Sorry, VERY long post)

2009-09-03 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:22 AM, Paul Kemner wrote:

 Distro-hopping is probably the biggest reason people spend a lot of  
 time
 working on their computer with linux. There are new distros coming  
 out every
 week, and if you have a fast internet connection it's easy to  
 download the
 ones that sound appealing and burn a live cd.


This is PRECISELY my point about working ON your computer instead of  
WITH your computer. To drag out the Standard Car Analogy; this is the  
difference between people who spend all their free time in the garage,  
hood up tinkering with their cars and the vast majority who want a box  
that moves them from Point A to Point B reliably and without too much  
work.

Oh, and further info on that Visor and OS X

http://tinyurl.com/n22muc

Or just freakin' pick up a newer palm for cheap. Mine is an M500 I got  
for $25. Still going strong, still useful, syncs like a charm using  
Palm 4.1 software and iSync.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Linux on PPC- which distro? ... and G3 project.

2009-09-03 Thread Paul

That's the same as Classilla, right?

http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Question regarding non-mac monitors/display

2009-09-03 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Swigart, Kurt A [NTK] wrote:

 Hello,


 Quick question, request for advice. I was wondering what are some of  
 the pros and cons and/or pieces ( cables/etc...) that I would need  
 to hook up a non-apple display to a G5 Quad? Is this even possible?  
 The monitor I am looking at does have a DVI port. Thanks in advance.



The G5 should have a DVI port on it's video card, just connect 'em up.  
I've never seen one that didn't. Most have one DVI and one ADC, except  
for the ones that had two DVI ports...

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Linux on PPC- which distro? ... and G3 project.

2009-09-03 Thread Dan

At 9:16 AM -0700 9/3/2009, Paul wrote:
That's the same as Classilla, right?

http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/

Yes.  Thx.  I've now updated the spill chuker.  LOL

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Linux on PPC- which distro? ... and G3 project.

2009-09-03 Thread Clark Martin

Paul Kemner wrote:
 For the people who are using linux on a PPC computer, which distro do 
 you use? Yellowdog? Fedora? What? Why? 

YDL, Fedora, Debian and SUSE.  Why?  Now I'm not sure.  I wanted to play 
around with them and I wanted to see what the characteristics of each 
was.  I still haven't found a good comparison of the different distros.

I've found Yellowdog to be the buggiest.  SUSE seems okay but I just 
haven't really gotten around to using it.  Debian has the best support 
for Old World Macs.  Debian and Fedora seem to be on a par for useability.

 
 Any experience with Crux-PPC http://www.cruxppc.org/ ?? Here's why:

Never heard of it.

 
 I'm involved with a nonprofit that takes donations of (mostly pc) 
 computers, refurbishes them, and gives them to people who can't afford 
 one, and to nonprofits. Mostly we get PC's, wipe the drives and install 
 some version of linux. But...
 
 Sometimes we get old G3 iMacs. Sometimes the HD is gone, but we've got 
 spare drives sitting around. I'm not sure of the legality of installing 
 OS X or 9 willy-nilly on these boxes, and some of them are a 
 bit problematical for general-use due to a lack of a modern browser. 
 
 With some pc's, we install Quimo http://www.qimo4kids.com/ , an 
 operating system designed for kids to use. 
 
 I'd like to come up with a good kids system for the G3, and CruxPPC 
 sounds like it's still active and lightweight. The gCompris 
 http://gcompris.net/-en- games would be a good starting point.
 
 Is there anyone around that can help?

I've worked at a grade school and one of the things we found early on is 
that even the Kindergarteners had no trouble with the standard Mac GUI. 
  Some of the Kinder teachers wanted to coddle them (have the machine 
logged in and the app launched ahead of time) but other teachers just 
had the kids do it and they had no problem.

Just make sure there is a password protected admin account and an 
account for the kids to use.  The worse the kids can do is totally trash 
the kids account which can always be recreated.

I suppose having some tool like the dock in OS X that let's them select 
the app directly instead of having to navigate the Application menu in 
Linux would be useful but that's about it.


-- 
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Question regarding non-mac monitors/display

2009-09-03 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Hello,


Quick question, request for advice. I was 
wondering what are some of the pros and cons 
and/or pieces ( cables/etcŠ) that I would need to 
hook up a non-apple display to a G5 Quad? Is this 
even possible? The monitor I am looking at does 
have a DVI port. Thanks in advance.



I recently bought a Dell 20 flat wide screen 
monitor for my G4.  Works perfectly and it was a 
great deal at $112.00 delivered.  If Apple 
monitors were that inexpensive, I would rather 
have gone with one of thembut you know the 
drill.

So the pros:  Price and performance
The Cons:  none
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Jeffrey Engle

Here's the problem:
My wife buys something for me for Christmas/birthday etc. online  
then you have paypal,ebay,amazon etc. emails with complete info in the  
subject line etc. to tell me all she bought.

How can she lock an email to where I can't see it?
I can't see the sender, the subject, the date, and the body of the  
email without a password?

we've tried two paypal accounts, different mail addresses all to no  
avail. We need something that will work with one family (my wife and  
I) computer... any ideas? mail plug-in perhaps? Jeff 

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Sep 3, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:


 Here's the problem:
   My wife buys something for me for Christmas/birthday etc. online
 then you have paypal,ebay,amazon etc. emails with complete info in the
 subject line etc. to tell me all she bought.

ONly if YOUR email address is the one she's using for this.


 How can she lock an email to where I can't see it?
 I can't see the sender, the subject, the date, and the body of the
 email without a password?

No.


 we've tried two paypal accounts, different mail addresses all to no
 avail. We need something that will work with one family (my wife and
 I) computer... any ideas? mail plug-in perhaps? Jeff

Yes, it's simple...you each have to have your own email, paypal,  
amazon, etc etc accounts, and your own login on the computer, so that  
her email account info isn't stored in your keychain and vice-versa.  
She'll have to log in as her to read her email, where all purchases on  
her Amazon account go, and vice versa.

Only one of you can use it at a time, anyway, and so long as you're  
using 10.4 (maybe 10.3, I forget when fast user switching was  
introduced) switching between the two is fast and easy.

This is the basic function and rationale for having a multi-user  
operating system.

If you insist on using one computer login, then make sure you don't  
save your email logins in the keychain.

This gets tricky when you have shared media resources (one iTunes and  
iPhoto library, for example) but those can be set so tht you can  
access them from each account.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Chance Reecher

I suggest that she get a GMail account for herself and her own
paypal/amazon/whatever account, and only use them for transactions
that she wants to keep private.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Bruce
Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:


 On Sep 3, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:


 Here's the problem:
       My wife buys something for me for Christmas/birthday etc. online
 then you have paypal,ebay,amazon etc. emails with complete info in the
 subject line etc. to tell me all she bought.

 ONly if YOUR email address is the one she's using for this.


 How can she lock an email to where I can't see it?
 I can't see the sender, the subject, the date, and the body of the
 email without a password?

 No.


 we've tried two paypal accounts, different mail addresses all to no
 avail. We need something that will work with one family (my wife and
 I) computer... any ideas? mail plug-in perhaps? Jeff

 Yes, it's simple...you each have to have your own email, paypal,
 amazon, etc etc accounts, and your own login on the computer, so that
 her email account info isn't stored in your keychain and vice-versa.
 She'll have to log in as her to read her email, where all purchases on
 her Amazon account go, and vice versa.

 Only one of you can use it at a time, anyway, and so long as you're
 using 10.4 (maybe 10.3, I forget when fast user switching was
 introduced) switching between the two is fast and easy.

 This is the basic function and rationale for having a multi-user
 operating system.

 If you insist on using one computer login, then make sure you don't
 save your email logins in the keychain.

 This gets tricky when you have shared media resources (one iTunes and
 iPhoto library, for example) but those can be set so tht you can
 access them from each account.

 --
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



 




-- 
Chance Reecher
765-4609
491-2286
cnrtechh...@gmail.com
AIM: cnrtechhead

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Dan

At 3:54 PM -0700 9/3/2009, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
My wife buys something for me for Christmas/birthday etc. online 
then you have paypal,ebay,amazon etc. emails with complete info in the 
subject line etc. to tell me all she bought.

How can she lock an email to where I can't see it?
I can't see the sender, the subject, the date, and the body of the 
email without a password?

we've tried two paypal accounts, different mail addresses all to no 
avail. We need something that will work with one family (my wife and
I) computer... any ideas? mail plug-in perhaps? Jeff

His  Hers Macs

Kindof like having separate bath towels - it's a necessity.

Also good for laffs.  Now and then I hear that LOUD hand slap, as my 
housemate reaches for his wife's PowerBook.

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Bill Connelly


On Sep 3, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 On Sep 3, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:


 Here's the problem:
  My wife buys something for me for Christmas/birthday etc. online
 then you have paypal,ebay,amazon etc. emails with complete info in  
 the
 subject line etc. to tell me all she bought.

 ONly if YOUR email address is the one she's using for this.


 How can she lock an email to where I can't see it?
 I can't see the sender, the subject, the date, and the body of the
 email without a password?


You could create an e-mail Inbox for each user, and create a Rule that  
would route the e-mail to that Inbox according to say the person's  
name used in the e-mail address for each purchase ... i.e., you'd have  
to have a keyword in the e-mail coming in for each person, to key on,  
to separate them.

Then trust one another to only look at your own Inbox.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Dan wrote:


 Kindof like having separate bath towels - it's a necessity.

 Also good for laffs.  Now and then I hear that LOUD hand slap, as my
 housemate reaches for his wife's PowerBook.

Is this the one who insists on using Windows? :-)

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



 On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Dan wrote:


 Kindof like having separate bath towels - it's a necessity.

 Also good for laffs.  Now and then I hear that LOUD hand slap, as my
 housemate reaches for his wife's PowerBook.

 Is this the one who insists on using Windows? :-)


Ok, i think I got the answer... she simply waits for all emails to  
arrive (ebay, paypal, amazon etc) then highlights them all and moves  
them to a previously imported mailbox. That way they are out of  
sight and all she needs to tell me is, Don't look there... she's  
happy!!!
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread yersinia

Dan writes,

His  Hers Macs

Yup! Absolutely a necessity!

I've been divorced almost a decade (no, not because of a Mac LOL), but 
while my ex-husband and I were together, we started out using one Mac -- 
mine, which I had just bought. The problem we had sharing the one Mac 
wasn't one of us getting to see the other's emails, but rather we both 
wanted to use it too much, and only one of us could use it at a time. 
A year later I bought a second Mac, gave him the original one, and he 
networked them with the printer so we could share that. We didn't have 
any more problems over who gets to use the Mac after that, so it 
worked out well.

Much more recently, my boyfriend and I also obviously do the his and 
her Macs thing. He made an account for me on his dual gig G4 
Quicksilver for when I'm up there and I've used it (to play my simmies 
on his 23 Apple Cinema Display!), but I also bring my iBook when I go 
to his place, and that's what I use to check email. I was going to 
create an account for him on my own G4 Quicksilver 867 for when he's 
here, but realized there's no need for it: when we do computer stuff 
here (other than him helping me with my upgrades!) it tends to be 
researching stuff on the web of simultaneous mutual interest, and I 
don't have any privacy or blowing surprise issues with him popping open 
Firefox. He was also bringing an iBook here too for awhile until it 
futzed out, but I just gave him a new one for his birthday so I'm sure 
he'll be bringing that when he comes over.  ;-)

~Yersinia.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Dan

At 4:13 PM -0700 9/3/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Dan wrote:
   Kindof like having separate bath towels - it's a necessity.

  Also good for laffs.  Now and then I hear that LOUD hand slap, as my
  housemate reaches for his wife's PowerBook.

Is this the one who insists on using Windows? :-)

Why yes, yes he is.

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread WhyOSX

Sometimes one has to,
but it's always a pleasure to return to REAL computers.
Lars


At 4:13 PM -0700 9/3/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Dan wrote:
   Kindof like having separate bath towels - it's a necessity.

  Also good for laffs.  Now and then I hear that LOUD hand slap, as my
  housemate reaches for his wife's PowerBook.

Is this the one who insists on using Windows? :-)

Why yes, yes he is.

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Question regarding non-mac monitors/display

2009-09-03 Thread Charles Lenington

Bruce Johnson wrote:
 On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Swigart, Kurt A [NTK] wrote:

   
 Hello,


 Quick question, request for advice. I was wondering what are some of  
 the pros and cons and/or pieces ( cables/etc...) that I would need  
 to hook up a non-apple display to a G5 Quad? Is this even possible?  
 The monitor I am looking at does have a DVI port. Thanks in advance.

 


 The G5 should have a DVI port on it's video card, just connect 'em up.  
 I've never seen one that didn't. Most have one DVI and one ADC, except  
 for the ones that had two DVI ports...

   
You have to watch the pins to holes in different dvi ports/cords. I have 
a monitor that has different hole count. If there are less holes on port 
the cable won't plug in.

See the wiki.

http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread DAN A CURRIE

yersi...@cybernex.net wrote:
 Dan writes,

 His  Hers Macs

 Yup! Absolutely a necessity!

   
... and the kids too!! We all have aging Macs that work very well and 
afford some level of privacy.

Dan II

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread PETER WARNER

On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:48 PM, DAN A CURRIE wrote:

 Dan writes,

 His  Hers Macs

 Yup! Absolutely a necessity!


 ... and the kids too!! We all have aging Macs that work very well and
 afford some level of privacy.


That's how we do it, Family of 4=4 macs of various vintages, and the  
G4 Mystic is shared for everyone (though that's where my mail is)
My 6 year old is loving her Tangerine I-Book It's the Prettiest! ;)
Peter
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Lombard power issues

2009-09-03 Thread ron



On Sep 3, PETER WARNER pe...@petermwarner.com wrote:

 Thanks Ron,
 I will try all of that on Sunday, when My wife, and my Lombard get  
 back from their trip.  As far as a different power adapter is  
 concerned, am I right in thinking that the adapters from Clamshell I-
 books are compatible with lombard and pismo?
 Peter

I cannot answer this with certainty without having one of each adapter
in front of me to read the label. Check the output voltage on each
adapter to be sure that you are not putting a high voltage into a low
voltage machine. As long as the plug fits the socket and the voltage
output also matches, you should be able to use the adapters
interchangeably.

Apple made some changes in the size of the plug/socket from one model
to another and that can cause problems if you don't properly identify
the needed model of charger. And, then Apple came out with the MagSafe
adapter which uses a totally different connection method. Thank you,
Apple, for the added confusion!
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Clark Martin

DAN A CURRIE wrote:
 yersi...@cybernex.net wrote:
 Dan writes,

 His  Hers Macs

 Yup! Absolutely a necessity!

   
 ... and the kids too!! We all have aging Macs that work very well and 
 afford some level of privacy.

His and hers Macs???  What an odd concept.  Here it's his, hers, hers, 
hers, hers, his, his, his, his, his, his...  That's every one (me, wife, 
3 kids) have a laptop and I have a few more.  Hard to see getting by on 
just ONE computer.


-- 
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---



Re: Is there a way to Lock email messages?

2009-09-03 Thread Clark Martin

PETER WARNER wrote:
 
 On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:48 PM, DAN A CURRIE wrote:
 
 Dan writes,


 His  Hers Macs


 Yup! Absolutely a necessity!



 ... and the kids too!! We all have aging Macs that work very well and 

 afford some level of privacy.

 
 That's how we do it, Family of 4=4 macs of various vintages, and the G4 
 Mystic is shared for everyone (though that's where my mail is)
 My 6 year old is loving her Tangerine I-Book It's the Prettiest! ;)

I just got a Tangerine iBook.  I do like the color and form factor.  A 
lime or blueberry just wouldn't do.  A Firewire charcoal would also be 
acceptable.


-- 
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for 
those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---