will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
I just got a Gigabit with a Sonnet Encore ST/G4 1GHz processor upgrade inside. Now I want to swap that Sonnet with the 466MHz cpu in my Digital Audio, but before I do that, I wanted to check two things here: 1. How tricky is it to put the DA's CPU into the Gigabit? The CPU is the same, but I read that the location of the CPU card on machines previous to the digital audio would require some modifications to the motherboard/case. (The other way I can manage; I have the Sonnet instructions for putting in the Encore.) 2. What do I gain by this swap? I mean, the DA is a bit newer and faster, but is it worth it, or should I just switch to the Gigabit? - I have already tried the DA's video card in the Gigabit and it works OK; does it make a big difference that the DA is AGPx4 and the Gigabit AGPx2? - The RAM in both computers is PC-133 - Does the slower ATA bus speed of the Gigabit make a big difference in actual practice? Thanks in advance for your views! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Geke wrote: I just got a Gigabit with a Sonnet Encore ST/G4 1GHz processor upgrade inside. Now I want to swap that Sonnet with the 466MHz cpu in my Digital Audio, but before I do that, I wanted to check two things here: 1. How tricky is it to put the DA's CPU into the Gigabit? The CPU is the same, but I read that the location of the CPU card on machines previous to the digital audio would require some modifications to the motherboard/case. (The other way I can manage; I have the Sonnet instructions for putting in the Encore.) 2 Main considerations. 1) I think with the DA Card (I know with a QS card) you have to remove one of the 2 IDE connectors on the motherboard to get it to fit. We are talking board level soldering. 2) The DA has a 133MHz bus speed and the gigabit has a 100MHz. The 466 has a 3.5 x multiplier so if you do the work above you will only have a 350MHz machine. 2. What do I gain by this swap? I mean, the DA is a bit newer and faster, but is it worth it, or should I just switch to the Gigabit? Between the faster bus speed and 4 x AGP, yes, switch. - I have already tried the DA's video card in the Gigabit and it works OK; does it make a big difference that the DA is AGPx4 and the Gigabit AGPx2? If the card can take advantage of it, yes it does. - The RAM in both computers is PC-133 Good, it is swappable - Does the slower ATA bus speed of the Gigabit make a big difference in actual practice? AFAIK, the ATA drive interfaces are the same. There is a faster motherboard bus speed on the DAs (133 vs 100) and that DOES make a difference. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Geke wrote: - Does the slower ATA bus speed of the Gigabit make a big difference in actual practice? I seem to remember someone saying, that the System Bus speed bump from 100 to 133 was significant, but that after that (167?) folks didn't see much improvement on G4s. www.barefeats.com might have some benchmarks ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
On Aug 6, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Geke wrote: 1. How tricky is it to put the DA's CPU into the Gigabit? The CPU is the same, but I read that the location of the CPU card on machines previous to the digital audio would require some modifications to the motherboard/case. (The other way I can manage; I have the Sonnet instructions for putting in the Encore.) The Giga-Designs processor upgrades were designed from the outset to fit in either processor position: the old position as found in the Gigabit Ethernet G4s or the new position as found in the Digital Audio and Quicksilver G4s. Giga does this by having a two-position processor cooler, and an innovative board layout which accommodates the special need of the Gigabit Ethernet for access to its optical/ ZIP drive PATA channel. The Giga-Designs processors were also designed for easy changes from a 100 MHz bus machine to a 133 MHz bus machine. I don't know if Encore offers this same flexibility. 2. What do I gain by this swap? I mean, the DA is a bit newer and faster, but is it worth it, or should I just switch to the Gigabit? - I have already tried the DA's video card in the Gigabit and it works OK; does it make a big difference that the DA is AGPx4 and the Gigabit AGPx2? - The RAM in both computers is PC-133 - Does the slower ATA bus speed of the Gigabit make a big difference in actual practice? It can make a difference, but that difference is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 minutes to do a complex DVD authoring/ mastering job on a Gigabit Ethernet (100 MHz bus, an slower ATA channel) to 120 minutes to do the same job on a Digital Audio or a Quicksilver (133 MHz bus and faster ATA channel). In stark contrast, a Shuttle SP35 OSx86 Hackintosh can do that same DVD authoring/mastering job in 12 minutes ... a 10-to-1 improvement in wall-cock-time, which is certainly one important measure of performance. I still retain 133 MHz bus G4s for ordinary work (such as web access and Mail.app access, for which a 133 MHz bus and a dual 1.0 GHz G4 processor is certainly satisfactory). All the heavy lifting in my shop is now run on OSx86 Hackintoshes with, variously, 800 MHz to 1600 MHz buses and dual or quad Intel processors in the very high 2 MHz to low 3 MHz range (Pentium Dual- Core E6700 3.2 GHz, but over-clockable to 3.8 GHz to Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz, but over-clockable to 3.4 GHz; however, I rarely operate my processors over-clocked, preferring reliability over excessive stress on the various components). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: we don't need no stinkin' adapters!
The cheapo adapters only provide a single voltage, which will power the drive, but won't allow it to operate in lower-power mode, and doesn't support hot swap. Read the article I put in my post. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 15:03, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: Unfortunately, it's not that easy. Native SATA power provides additional voltages that aren't available on older power supplies to support lower power consumption and hot-swap. Umm... if that were the case, there wouldn't be cheapo adapters?? I'm looking at the adapters in my hand... Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
I can't agree with that. A P4 is the definition of hype verses performance. My G4 933 mhz Quicksilver is more responsive then a P4 at twice the clock speed and the ram is PC133 on my QS and it is still the better machine. P4s were not even that great with windows. Plus a P4 is basically a space heater in a computer case. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it will fit. Yes, it will be much faster. But you don't gain terribly much from it. It's still an old G4, and it won't blaze along at very many things. If you want speed, just pony up $100, buy a faster P4 desktop, and OSX86 the thing. Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC architecture. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Peter Haas peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Geke wrote: 1. How tricky is it to put the DA's CPU into the Gigabit? The CPU is the same, but I read that the location of the CPU card on machines previous to the digital audio would require some modifications to the motherboard/case. (The other way I can manage; I have the Sonnet instructions for putting in the Encore.) The Giga-Designs processor upgrades were designed from the outset to fit in either processor position: the old position as found in the Gigabit Ethernet G4s or the new position as found in the Digital Audio and Quicksilver G4s. Giga does this by having a two-position processor cooler, and an innovative board layout which accommodates the special need of the Gigabit Ethernet for access to its optical/ZIP drive PATA channel. The Giga-Designs processors were also designed for easy changes from a 100 MHz bus machine to a 133 MHz bus machine. I don't know if Encore offers this same flexibility. 2. What do I gain by this swap? I mean, the DA is a bit newer and faster, but is it worth it, or should I just switch to the Gigabit? - I have already tried the DA's video card in the Gigabit and it works OK; does it make a big difference that the DA is AGPx4 and the Gigabit AGPx2? - The RAM in both computers is PC-133 - Does the slower ATA bus speed of the Gigabit make a big difference in actual practice? It can make a difference, but that difference is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 minutes to do a complex DVD authoring/mastering job on a Gigabit Ethernet (100 MHz bus, an slower ATA channel) to 120 minutes to do the same job on a Digital Audio or a Quicksilver (133 MHz bus and faster ATA channel). In stark contrast, a Shuttle SP35 OSx86 Hackintosh can do that same DVD authoring/mastering job in 12 minutes ... a 10-to-1 improvement in wall-cock-time, which is certainly one important measure of performance. I still retain 133 MHz bus G4s for ordinary work (such as web access and Mail.app access, for which a 133 MHz bus and a dual 1.0 GHz G4 processor is certainly satisfactory). All the heavy lifting in my shop is now run on OSx86 Hackintoshes with, variously, 800 MHz to 1600 MHz buses and dual or quad Intel processors in the very high 2 MHz to low 3 MHz range (Pentium Dual-Core E6700 3.2 GHz, but over-clockable to 3.8 GHz to Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz, but over-clockable to 3.4 GHz; however, I rarely operate my processors over-clocked, preferring reliability over excessive stress on the various components). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: we don't need no stinkin' adapters!
I need to be more clear of my intentions. I'm using an internal Firmtek 1V4 card to connect 4 sata drives inside my MDD powermac All I want to do is switch the stock molex power connectors with sata without using an adapter to achieve this? I will not be using the 3.3v connection in this case. Jeff On Aug 6, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: The cheapo adapters only provide a single voltage, which will power the drive, but won't allow it to operate in lower-power mode, and doesn't support hot swap. Read the article I put in my post. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 15:03, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: Unfortunately, it's not that easy. Native SATA power provides additional voltages that aren't available on older power supplies to support lower power consumption and hot-swap. Umm... if that were the case, there wouldn't be cheapo adapters?? I'm looking at the adapters in my hand... Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
The Short Answer: Yes a bad cpu can give you a good Power On Self Test Chime. What you do is keep downclocking the CPU till it eventually gives you video and boots. You may even have to go to the lowest setting your motherboard allows before it does gives video and boots. If a CPU has been heat stressed in the past, it may say that it is a 500 MHZ processor, but may work just long enough to pass the P.O.S.T. and give a chime, and then lock up (at its 500 MHZ settings). Lower clock speed = less heat = more likely to boot. (For the archive). Thanks all that helped with this problem. Gus. On Jul 20, 2:19 am, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: System: G4 Yikes with 400mhz Processor clocked to 450 / 750 mb memory. a PC keyboard hooked to the USB port. PC mouse hooked to the USB port. I got this processor from ebay. Says it is a 500 mhz G4. DId a one for one swap with the G4 on my Yikes board. (left jumpers at 450). Chime, But no video. No turn over to open firmware. (no cd boot, no disk activity at all) Cant zap pram (think it is because of the PC Keyboard) But should I need to? Swapped the 400 mhz processor back in, and I get video right away. Boot turns over to open firmware and up it comes. I am not changing any jumpers during the swap and I I have a no boot cpu and the original cpu that boots fine. STRONGLY SUSPECT I HAVE A BAD CPU. BUT!!! I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything. Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz g4, Still chimes, no video. Thanks so much you guys.. You have always been here when I have needed help!!! Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
On 8/6/10 1:48 PM, Gus wrote: The Short Answer: Yes a bad cpu can give you a good Power On Self Test Chime. What you do is keep downclocking the CPU till it eventually gives you video and boots. You may even have to go to the lowest setting your motherboard allows before it does gives video and boots. If a CPU has been heat stressed in the past, it may say that it is a 500 MHZ processor, but may work just long enough to pass the P.O.S.T. and give a chime, and then lock up (at its 500 MHZ settings). Lower clock speed = less heat = more likely to boot. It's not just a matter of heat. The chip may just not be able to run at a given speed regardless of how hot it gets doing it. One suggestion, keep dropping the clock speed till it boots and works okay... then drop it one more. You may be right on the edge of it working okay and any little thing could push it over such as temperature. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
On 8/6/2010 3:14 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I can't agree with that. A P4 is the definition of hype verses performance. My G4 933 mhz Quicksilver is more responsive then a P4 at twice the clock speed and the ram is PC133 on my QS and it is still the better machine. P4s were not even that great with windows. Plus a P4 is basically a space heater in a computer case. Agreed, I just replaced a 1.8 GHz P4 with a dual 933 P3 system. The P3 outperforms it lol. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: will DA processor fit in Gigabit?
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Jason Brown jason_brown1...@att.netwrote: On 8/6/2010 3:14 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I can't agree with that. A P4 is the definition of hype verses performance. My G4 933 mhz Quicksilver is more responsive then a P4 at twice the clock speed and the ram is PC133 on my QS and it is still the better machine. P4s were not even that great with windows. Plus a P4 is basically a space heater in a computer case. Agreed, I just replaced a 1.8 GHz P4 with a dual 933 P3 system. The P3 outperforms it lol. -- ___ Not unique, As testified to by the PCI Macs archive many found certain G3 setups outperforming G4s. A source of wonder and bemusement on that list for years -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: we don't need no stinkin' adapters!
On Aug 6, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I need to be more clear of my intentions. I'm using an internal Firmtek 1V4 card to connect 4 sata drives inside my MDD powermac All I want to do is switch the stock molex power connectors with sata without using an adapter to achieve this? I will not be using the 3.3v connection in this case. Jeff On Aug 6, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: You may find something here at this site. http://www.digikey.com/?cshift_ck=2045367971cs511275661WT.srch=1 John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: we don't need no stinkin' adapters!
On Aug 6, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: The cheapo adapters only provide a single voltage, which will power the drive, but won't allow it to operate in lower-power mode, and doesn't support hot swap. Read the article I put in my post. On Aug 6, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I need to be more clear of my intentions. I'm using an internal Firmtek 1V4 card to connect 4 sata drives inside my MDD powermac All I want to do is switch the stock molex power connectors with sata without using an adapter to achieve this? I will not be using the 3.3v connection in this case. Yes, you do need to be more clear. I'm guessing you want to cut the wires from the power supply that go to one of the standard molex power jacks, and splice an SATA power cable in its place? If this is what you're asking about, my reply is: Use the cheapo adapter. You'll make a mess of splicing the wires Mess? a neat solder job and some shrink tubing? and that's assuming I have to cut the wires at all. , and probably short out your power supply with some bonehead mistake. Use the adapter, that's what they're made for, they work. I use several in my older computers with no problems. Kris, If I honestly thought this was more of a job than what I could do, I wouldn't attempt it in the first place After some research of my own, I found out that a simple push-down sata power connector can simply, and I mean simply replace the molex connectors... I ordered several to have a few extra for future projects. Regardless, thanks for the advice. Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: we don't need no stinkin' adapters!
On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:00 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Mess? a neat solder job and some shrink tubing? and that's assuming I have to cut the wires at all. If I honestly thought this was more of a job than what I could do, I wouldn't attempt it in the first place After some research of my own, I found out that a simple push-down sata power connector can simply, and I mean simply replace the molex connectors... I ordered several to have a few extra for future projects. Great! Since you know what you're doing, I'd suggest doing it without first posting to the list. In my opinion your rewiring job is make- work. The 99¢ or less adapter accomplishes identical functionality in a fraction of the time or effort. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: we don't need no stinkin' adapters!
On Aug 6, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:00 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Mess? a neat solder job and some shrink tubing? and that's assuming I have to cut the wires at all. If I honestly thought this was more of a job than what I could do, I wouldn't attempt it in the first place After some research of my own, I found out that a simple push-down sata power connector can simply, and I mean simply replace the molex connectors... I ordered several to have a few extra for future projects. Great! Since you know what you're doing, I'd suggest doing it without first posting to the list. In my opinion your rewiring job is make-work. The 99¢ or less adapter accomplishes identical functionality in a fraction of the time or effort. the subject line comes from a mel brooks comedy. sorry if it looked like a slam on adapters. It wasn't meant that way. J -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: we don't need no stinkin' adapters!
At 19:00 -0700 8/6/10, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Mess? a neat solder job and some shrink tubing? and that's assuming I have to cut the wires at all. You'll find that Molex, and AMP too, recommend against soldering those crimp terminals. The high temperature and solder blobs interfere with the flexibility of the metal and the mating force of the connectors after assembly. Use a crimp tool! -- -- The best programming tool is a soldering iron -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:39 AM, admin oneluc...@mac.com wrote: Anyone still work with them? For what uses? How? Thanks. They are very much around and useful for those who know how. Do you have enough RAM ? MAX it ! Want to speed up your Photoshop or other application ? Make a RAM disk according to the OS help instructions online or from your drive. Copy the application and any source files to the RAM disk. The system treats it like a physical drive. Do your chore. Copy out the work to a physical medium often. In case the system fails. Because Application calls to itself in RAM disk are faster than calls to mechanical hardware things work faster and smoother. you can set it up so it appears on boot and also have the apps there too. Want to browse the web but empty the cache files for good on shut down? Put whatever browser caches or any other unwanted files into RAM disk. When you shut down they are gone with anything else in RAM. No traces. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
