Repairing permissions
G'day to all Have recently learned that repairing permissions on Tiger takes 48 seconds, on the same machine Leopard takes 56 minutes, can anyone let me know of the reason for tthe huge difference in times ? I have an iMag G5, 20 inch, 2.0GB ram, 2.0Ghz cpu, 250 GB HDD, running both Tiger Leopard Many Thanks - ainsies -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Water Cooler Power Mac G5
no the late 05 g5 ONLY the QUAD core use liquid cooling the dual core 2.0/2.3 is air cooled On Sep 2, 7:50 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Matevž Markovič wrote: Answer: if you powermac is Late 2004 or later model, it uses liquid cooling. Nope. It's only the 2.7 GHz early 2005 and all the late 2005 G5s, no 2004 at all. All the early 2005 and before except for the 2.7 GHz are air-cooled. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing permissions
On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:14 AM, ainsies wrote: G'day to all Have recently learned that repairing permissions on Tiger takes 48 seconds, on the same machine Leopard takes 56 minutes, can anyone let me know of the reason for tthe huge difference in times ? I have an iMag G5, 20 inch, 2.0GB ram, 2.0Ghz cpu, 250 GB HDD, running both Tiger Leopard Many Thanks - ainsies They're different operating systems. There are different files, different permissions, and a different quantity of files. A more important question is why are you timing this and why is 8 seconds something to be losing sleep over? Add a few user accounts, some complex programs, several hundred thousand user files, and some age to your installation and watch the time it takes to perform a scan rise significantly. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing permissions
On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:14 AM, ainsies wrote: G'day to all Have recently learned that repairing permissions on Tiger takes 48 seconds, on the same machine Leopard takes 56 minutes, can anyone let me know of the reason for tthe huge difference in times ? I have an iMag G5, 20 inch, 2.0GB ram, 2.0Ghz cpu, 250 GB HDD, running both Tiger Leopard Many Thanks - ainsies They're different operating systems. There are different files, different permissions, and a different quantity of files. A more important question is why are you timing this and why is 8 seconds something to be losing sleep over? Add a few user accounts, some complex programs, several hundred thousand user files, and some age to your installation and watch the time it takes to perform a scan rise significantly. i think the difference between 48 SECONDS and 56 MINUTES is more than 8 seconds. I can't remember the timings on my G5 dual when I had one disk at 10.5.8, and the other with 10.4.11 (to run Classic mode). I've ceased needing the OS9 apps, so Tiger's been given an honourable retirement now. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Odd Posting issue
On Sep 2, 7:31 pm, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote: I have found that the only foolproof solution against this kind of problem is to choose the No email option and read all posts online. That's what I do, and it saves me time and aggravation. My mailbox(es) and my time are unmanageable enough as it is. Felix On the other hand, my compromise works well for me. I receive all posts in digest form, usually no more than one per day. I store them all in folders dedicated to specific groups where the content very quickly is available in Spotight. I cannot count the number of times that using Spotlight has let me avoid repeating queries that have already been asked. If I choose, I read the latest traffic of a thread online prior to getting the next night's digest. Once in a while, a posting to a lightly used group arrives in a group digest several days late. To post replies, I usually go online. Replies from the digest require replacing the noreply text in the To line. Generating a new thread in Mail is simple with just a letter or two in the To Line to select the complete group address. But there may be a delay of some hours before it appears in the forum. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Water Cooler Power Mac G5
On Sep 2, 9:24 am, James Morgan macsh...@mac.com wrote: Which models of the G5 were water cooled, and, how do we determine if we have one? If you have a PM G5 just open the side panel and slide off the G5 processor cover and you will see the hoses, Can't miss it. :-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing permissions
On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:46 AM, Ted Treen wrote: i think the difference between 48 SECONDS and 56 MINUTES is more than 8 seconds. I can't remember the timings on my G5 dual when I had one disk at 10.5.8, and the other with 10.4.11 (to run Classic mode). I've ceased needing the OS9 apps, so Tiger's been given an honourable retirement now. Ted Good point..when I replied this morning, I hadn't had my cup of coffee yet... 56 minutes does seem excessive. Was Leopard installed as an upgrade instead of a clean or archived install? Does it take 56 minutes every time you check permissions or was it a 1-time-only thing? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing permissions
On Sep 3, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Eric Herbert wrote: Does it take 56 minutes every time you check permissions or was it a 1-time-only thing? My experience is that Tiger is very quick, a couple minutes, and Leopard is VERY slow, at LEAST 10 minutes, and I've seen HOURS to Repair Permissions, and then Snow Leopard is very quick again, a couple minutes at MOST. Must be some sort of bug? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
HP 870Cse on G4 MDD
Hi All I have a G4 MDD with OS9.2.2 and I installed a GeeThree Stealth 8 pin serial card. It works as expected I can run my last century Epson Stylus 600 without a hitch, however I can't get it to run my HP 870 Cse. I hve gotten the HP drivers for OS9 but still no cigar. Has anyone had experience with this? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: HP 870Cse on G4 MDD
On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Has anyone had experience with this? I thought you had bought a Parallel-to-USB adapter for this 870CSE? Either way is a kludge, but you can enable USB Printer Sharing using the USB adapter method. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Computer Name: (2) ??? in Sharing folder changes for no reason?
Mac mini in the living room w/ external 500gb (iTunes library on it) hardwired to the network via cat5 I have a mdd, g5 powermac, g5 imac in the office. Each machine is named specifically different as not to conflict with any other and all are hardwired to the network via network switch. Here's the fun part when the mini is booted up, the Computer Name in the sharing prefs folder (system prefs) changes from Mac Mini to Mac Mini (2) ??? I've changed this computer name various times only to have it do the (2) thing over and over again? normally this wouldn't be a big issue but I hate having to type my user password in every time it does it. any clues as to why I keep getting the (2)? Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing permissions
Noticed the same thing with Leopard. I may try Permission Repair with a utility like Cocktail, or even DiskWarrior. My guess is that it will be faster. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing permissions
On Sep 3, 2010, at 4:14 AM, ainsies wrote: G'day to all Have recently learned that repairing permissions on Tiger takes 48 seconds, on the same machine Leopard takes 56 minutes, can anyone let me know of the reason for tthe huge difference in times ? Is Spotlight Indexing running some kind of interference? ... that takes a long time ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing permissions
On Sep 3, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Is Spotlight Indexing running some kind of interference? ... that takes a long time ... I don't think Spotlight has anything to do with it. I just ran Repair Permissions on three identical clones that were new, on a newly formatted and partitioned HD under Snow Leopard 10.6.2. This differences in times were substantial. The 1st clone took about 4 SECONDS; the 2nd clone took 1 minute; and the clone took 40 seconds. I repeated these each once, and the 2nd times confirmed the 1st timings. This would seem to indicate that physical location on the HD is important, and since these clones were brand new and never booted, or written before, there should have been zero fragmentation. This might mean that highly fragmented HDs that have had heavy usage take longer to Repair Permissions? The big difference is in Leopard 10.5, which is always super slow compared to either Tiger or Snow Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
