Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Matt Rhinesmith 
I know you're joking, but what you say has a... (seed?  nucleus?   
No, what's the word... oh, wait -- nugget!)  What you say has a  
nugget of truth to it.


Agreed, one might say OS 9 was very much that way.

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Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Jim Scott 

On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Matt Rhinesmith wrote:

>> What you're seeing is a kernel panic, which usually is because the OS 
>> detects a problem with the installed memory sticks. In my experience, it's 
>> because there is a mismatch in specs between two or more banks of RAM. I 
>> usually run the Apple Hardware Test and look at the specs of the RAM in each 
>> bank. For kernel-free operation (at least as far as RAM goes in 10.4.11), 
>> match the speeds, latency and other specs and you should resolve your issue.
> 
> Kernel-free operation, eh? Just gonna let all them applicayshuns run wild? ;-)
> Matt Rhinesmith

Ha-ha. Haven't you ever heard of free-range Apples? 'Course, I meant to say 
"kernel panic-free". Glad you're paying attention.
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Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Joshua Juran 

On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Matt Rhinesmith wrote:

What you're seeing is a kernel panic, which usually is because the  
OS detects a problem with the installed memory sticks. In my  
experience, it's because there is a mismatch in specs between two  
or more banks of RAM. I usually run the Apple Hardware Test and  
look at the specs of the RAM in each bank. For kernel-free  
operation (at least as far as RAM goes in 10.4.11), match the  
speeds, latency and other specs and you should resolve your issue.



Kernel-free operation, eh? Just gonna let all them applicayshuns run  
wild? ;-)


I know you're joking, but what you say has a... (seed?  nucleus?  No,  
what's the word... oh, wait -- nugget!)  What you say has a nugget of  
truth to it.


Josh


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Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Matt Rhinesmith 
What you're seeing is a kernel panic, which usually is because the  
OS detects a problem with the installed memory sticks. In my  
experience, it's because there is a mismatch in specs between two  
or more banks of RAM. I usually run the Apple Hardware Test and  
look at the specs of the RAM in each bank. For kernel-free  
operation (at least as far as RAM goes in 10.4.11), match the  
speeds, latency and other specs and you should resolve your issue.



Kernel-free operation, eh? Just gonna let all them applicayshuns run  
wild? ;-)

Matt Rhinesmith

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Re: VersionTracker "folds"

2010-09-20 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio 
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Joshua Juran  wrote:

> On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:42 AM, ah...clem wrote:
>
>  On Sep 19, 10:02 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:
>>
>>  How can the Windows users stand it?
>>>
>>
>> u . . . they're WINBLOZE users.  duh!  how intelligent or
>> discriminating could they possibly be?  they've already demonstrated
>> their willingness to eat s#*! and then beg for more.  they're the kind
>> of people that make amerika great.  people with world's highest cash
>> to IQ ratio.  herren und damen, doesn't it just make you want to break
>> into a chorus of Gott Bless Amerika?
>>
>> btw, i predict that this thread will be terminated by the moderators
>> almost instantly.  denken sie nicht?
>>
>
> That won't be necessary, as you've already done us the favor.  ;-)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
>


Josh! Dude, thanks for the much needed cold water.

Posting this law to FB where it will be much appreciated.

Um, sorry Clem " you broke the president". Thanks for the provocation.
Without it Godwin's Law would be unknown to me!

Somebody had to observe the phenomenon and record it.


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Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Jim Scott 

On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Drew Anderson wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I sometimes get a message on my G4 Sawtooth, "You need to restart your 
> computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or press restart." 
> in 4 or 5 languages. Is this  an OS glitch? Hardware problem? Memory problem? 
> I've been getting the same message a lot on my G4 iBook as well.
> 
> G4 Sawtooth w/Sonnet 1.3Ghz dual core.
> OS 10.4.11
> 1.5 GB RAM

What you're seeing is a kernel panic, which usually is because the OS detects a 
problem with the installed memory sticks. In my experience, it's because there 
is a mismatch in specs between two or more banks of RAM. I usually run the 
Apple Hardware Test and look at the specs of the RAM in each bank. For 
kernel-free operation (at least as far as RAM goes in 10.4.11), match the 
speeds, latency and other specs and you should resolve your issue.

Jim Scott

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Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Fabian Fang 

On Sep 20, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Drew Anderson wrote:

I sometimes get a message on my G4 Sawtooth, "You need to restart  
your computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or  
press restart." in 4 or 5 languages. Is this  an OS glitch? Hardware  
problem? Memory problem? I've been getting the same message a lot on  
my G4 iBook as well.



These are "kernel panic" messages:



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Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio 
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Drew Anderson wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I sometimes get a message on my G4 Sawtooth, "You need to restart your
> computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or press restart."
> in 4 or 5 languages. Is this  an OS glitch? Hardware problem? Memory
> problem? I've been getting the same message a lot on my G4 iBook as well.
>
> G4 Sawtooth w/Sonnet 1.3Ghz dual core.
> OS 10.4.11
> 1.5 GB RAM
>
> __


Under what conditions. After idling or sleep? Or just after startup? How old
is your hard drive? How old is the mobo battery ?



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Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Glen McKnight 


On 20 Sep 2010, at 22:59, Drew Anderson wrote:


Hello All,

I sometimes get a message on my G4 Sawtooth, "You need to restart  
your computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or  
press restart." in 4 or 5 languages. Is this  an OS glitch? Hardware  
problem? Memory problem? I've been getting the same message a lot on  
my G4 iBook as well.


G4 Sawtooth w/Sonnet 1.3Ghz dual core.
OS 10.4.11
1.5 GB RAM

Cheers,
Drew



Hello Drew

Try restarting your machines with an installer disk in and running the  
Disk Utility.app and see what turns up.


Have Fun

Glen



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Re: VersionTracker "folds"

2010-09-20 Thread Joshua Juran 

On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:42 AM, ah...clem wrote:


On Sep 19, 10:02 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:


How can the Windows users stand it?


u . . . they're WINBLOZE users.  duh!  how intelligent or
discriminating could they possibly be?  they've already demonstrated
their willingness to eat s#*! and then beg for more.  they're the kind
of people that make amerika great.  people with world's highest cash
to IQ ratio.  herren und damen, doesn't it just make you want to break
into a chorus of Gott Bless Amerika?

btw, i predict that this thread will be terminated by the moderators
almost instantly.  denken sie nicht?


That won't be necessary, as you've already done us the favor.  ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Anyway, I'll see your recommendation of AdBlock Plus and raise you  
NoScript.  NoScript blocks any Javascript-based ads (that ABP doesn't  
already catch), but more importantly, it's your best line of defense  
against scripting attacks.  It also makes browsing faster by not  
loading useless scripts like analytic trackers.  The catch is that you  
have to selectively enable scripts for each site which needs them, and  
often sites don't tell you to enable scripting -- and fail in non- 
obvious ways if you don't.


Josh


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Hardware or Software Problem?

2010-09-20 Thread Drew Anderson 

Hello All,

I sometimes get a message on my G4 Sawtooth, "You need to restart your 
computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or press 
restart." in 4 or 5 languages. Is this  an OS glitch? Hardware problem? 
Memory problem? I've been getting the same message a lot on my G4 iBook 
as well.


G4 Sawtooth w/Sonnet 1.3Ghz dual core.
OS 10.4.11
1.5 GB RAM

Cheers,
Drew


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Re: late 05 g5 question

2010-09-20 Thread Dan Palka 
Tadaa:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2652?viewlocale=en_US

On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:08 PM, roger deghetto wrote:

> hello
> i have a late 05 powermac g5 dual core 2.0   when i turn my machine on
> the power light  goes red for a minute and i was wondering if this is
> normal for this model? its been doing it since i got it back in jan of
> 2010 i read about a red light of death is that what it is cause my
> machine seems to run fine.

Regards,

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Re: late 05 g5 question

2010-09-20 Thread Mac User #330250 
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Subject: late 05 g5 question
Date:Montag 20 September 2010N
From:roger deghetto 
To:  "G-Group" 

> i have a late 05 powermac g5 dual core 2.0   when i turn my machine on
> the power light  goes red for a minute and i was wondering if this is
> normal for this model?

I have the same model. The red light is one for about 2 or 3 seconds. 
Thereafter no more red, only green :-)

Sorry, don't know more.
Could be a lose contact, e.g. for the air deflector or so.


If it works, it works, right?


BTW: This model “features” a sudden death when the battery goes empty: you'll 
only hear the fans roar and that's it. Solution: simply replace the battery. 
Type: CR2032, 3V
I just had this happen, and it took me some time to figure it out.
Just my 2¢.


Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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late 05 g5 question

2010-09-20 Thread roger deghetto 
hello
i have a late 05 powermac g5 dual core 2.0   when i turn my machine on
the power light  goes red for a minute and i was wondering if this is
normal for this model? its been doing it since i got it back in jan of
2010 i read about a red light of death is that what it is cause my
machine seems to run fine.

thanks
roger deghetto

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Re: VersionTracker "folds"

2010-09-20 Thread Dan 

At 6:32 PM -0700 9/19/2010, Cliff Rediger wrote:

Did you notice where VersionTracker has been folded into CNET
download.com  ?

Now the noise of all those advertisements and the general feel isn't
as simple.

so it goes


I have subscribed RSS feeds for both VersionTracker and MacUpdate. 
VT's feed has been lagging for so long, I hadn't bothered to visit it 
recently.


VT has been getting slower and slower over the past year+.  I figured 
it was CNET's influence, adding more ads, grody scripts, etc.  Today, 
I see the "new" VT is everything I've come to expect from CNET.  Must 
slower to load and more difficult to read - especially after you bump 
the font size up a bit.  For that added bonus, when I clicked on the 
"full specifications" link it took me to a page not found error. 
Great job, CNET.


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Re: VersionTracker "folds"

2010-09-20 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT) 
Get Adblock Plus for Firefox and you will see 90% fewer ads. :)

http://www.adblockplus.org

Hey! Not everybody can afford a G5! ;)

I'm still waiting to get enough spare cash to buy a few Quicksilver '02s. :)

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 08:42, ah...clem  wrote:
> On Sep 19, 10:02 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:
>
>> How can the Windows users stand it?

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Re: VersionTracker "folds"

2010-09-20 Thread ah...clem 
On Sep 19, 10:02 pm, "Tina K."  wrote:

> How can the Windows users stand it?

u . . . they're WINBLOZE users.  duh!  how intelligent or
discriminating could they possibly be?  they've already demonstrated
their willingness to eat s#*! and then beg for more.  they're the kind
of people that make amerika great.  people with world's highest cash
to IQ ratio.  herren und damen, doesn't it just make you want to break
into a chorus of Gott Bless Amerika?

btw, i predict that this thread will be terminated by the moderators
almost instantly.  denken sie nicht?

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Re: VersionTracker "folds"

2010-09-20 Thread Dennis Myhand 

Tina K. wrote:
I came across that the other day when I was looking for an older 
version of something, one feature of VT that I did like. I've never 
been a fan of download.com/cnet and I really can't see myself ever 
using that site again, it's just awful.


How can the Windows users stand it?

Tina



It is all that most of them know.  I use oldversion dot com for a lot of 
older programs that I still like, that don't have a lot of the bloat the 
newer programs have (I just realized that as our programs bloat up, some 
have our young people.  I wonder if there is a corollary there?)  Of 
course I just check that site and there were two ads there now.  The 
world is going to hell.  Peace, Dennis


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