Re: My Quicksilver

2010-10-09 Thread Stephen Conrad
> Also, am getting an HD (2 if they are cheap) and was wondering if CCC

> > (Carbon Copy Cloner) would be OK to make me a new HD
> Yes.
>
> Al Poulin
>
> OK, the only HD they had that says on the box it would work on my Mac is a
WD USB 2.0 320 GB  My Passport.
They had a 1 TB Seagate but the box explicitly said it required a G5 Mac or
better

Once I move my HD stuff (via CCC) over to this new HD will I be able to boot
from it if my current HD dies?

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Re: G4 MDD and a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get?

2010-10-09 Thread Eric Herbert

On Oct 9, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Ashgrove wrote:

> On Oct 9, 7:43 pm, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
>> Eric, that's the NVIDIA 9800 pro (that's a Mac card right? I don't  
>> want to do the PC card flash dance:-) Jeff
> 
> Eric is actually talking about the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro card. The Mac
> version is kinda hard to get. Well-flashed PC versions should work as
> well. Either of them should work without any taping nonsense.
> 
> Ah, Flashdance! :-)
> 
> Felix

The original post referenced an nVidia 6800 Ultra as well as the Radeon 9800 
Pro.

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Re: G4 MDD and a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get?

2010-10-09 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 9, 7:43 pm, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
> Eric, that's the NVIDIA 9800 pro (that's a Mac card right? I don't  
> want to do the PC card flash dance:-) Jeff

Eric is actually talking about the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro card. The Mac
version is kinda hard to get. Well-flashed PC versions should work as
well. Either of them should work without any taping nonsense.

Ah, Flashdance! :-)

Felix

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Re: G4 MDD and a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get?

2010-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Oct 9, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Eric Herbert wrote:



On Oct 9, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Chance Reecher wrote:

I thought the only time graphics cards could "help each other out"  
was

in SLI and CrossFire configurations? By all means correct me if I'm
wrong.
Chance


Nope, you're 100% correct.  The previous poster is the one who's  
wrong.  A PCI card will do absolutely nothing to help out an already  
more powerful AGP card.  All it would provide is extra screens if  
you needed it.


The original poster just needs any AGP graphics card with a Mac ROM  
that supports the Dual-Link DVI setup.  Some models of the Radeon  
9600 support it, and the 9800 Pro series and later all support it.   
Several of the nVidia cards also support the dual-Link DVI mode, but  
I believe that a 6800 Ultra is required on the Mac for the 30"  
display.




The Nvidia geforce 6800 pro is an 8xAGP card?  my mdd is 4x agp? how  
does that work? I want a card that requires no taping or flashing:-)  
Jeff


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Re: G4 MDD and a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get?

2010-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Engle


On Oct 9, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Eric Herbert wrote:



On Oct 9, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Chance Reecher wrote:

I thought the only time graphics cards could "help each other out"  
was

in SLI and CrossFire configurations? By all means correct me if I'm
wrong.
Chance


Nope, you're 100% correct.  The previous poster is the one who's  
wrong.  A PCI card will do absolutely nothing to help out an already  
more powerful AGP card.  All it would provide is extra screens if  
you needed it.


The original poster just needs any AGP graphics card with a Mac ROM  
that supports the Dual-Link DVI setup.  Some models of the Radeon  
9600 support it, and the 9800 Pro series and later all support it.   
Several of the nVidia cards also support the dual-Link DVI mode, but  
I believe that a 6800 Ultra is required on the Mac for the 30"  
display.




Eric, that's the NVIDIA 9800 pro (that's a Mac card right? I don't  
want to do the PC card flash dance:-) Jeff


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Re: G4 MDD and a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get?

2010-10-09 Thread Eric Herbert

On Oct 9, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Chance Reecher wrote:

> I thought the only time graphics cards could "help each other out" was
> in SLI and CrossFire configurations? By all means correct me if I'm
> wrong.
> Chance

Nope, you're 100% correct.  The previous poster is the one who's wrong.  A PCI 
card will do absolutely nothing to help out an already more powerful AGP card.  
All it would provide is extra screens if you needed it.

The original poster just needs any AGP graphics card with a Mac ROM that 
supports the Dual-Link DVI setup.  Some models of the Radeon 9600 support it, 
and the 9800 Pro series and later all support it.  Several of the nVidia cards 
also support the dual-Link DVI mode, but I believe that a 6800 Ultra is 
required on the Mac for the 30" display.

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Re: Quicksilver Graphics Trouble

2010-10-09 Thread Eric Herbert

On Oct 9, 2010, at 3:47 PM, themargate...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

> I fear I know the answer to this question but just to check if anyone
> here had any other idea's.
> 
> I've got a PowerMac G4 Quicksilver (2001) that used to work
> beautifully, but had to have it in storage for a few months while I
> moved house, went to set it up again today and install a fresh copy of
> Leopard on there and noticed a problem, the display is horribly
> bright, even when darkened everything on the screen looks like it's
> brighter then it should be. Now, I've checked the vga cable and
> monitor with a Dreamcast console (Lots of modern tech as you can tell)
> and they look great, so I fear the fault is my 256mb nVidia GeForce
> 6200 graphics card (PC card that's been flashed) is on it's last legs,
> I've tried cleaning the contacts on the card, and using compressed air
> to clear the AGP slot and I still have this same problem. Is there
> anything else that may be going on here, or is it time for me to
> invest in a new card for this mac, which is a shame as this one seemed
> good for the machine!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sam Walker

I had this problem a few years ago with a Sawtooth and it just about drove me 
nuts.  Changing the video card won't help you out because it's a color-sync 
problem.

What fixed it for me was navigating to /Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Displays and 
deleting any files that are currently in that folder.  Then restart the 
computer and calibrate your color through the Displays control panel.

Mind you, this is the Library folder on Macintosh HD, not the one in the main 
System folder or the one in your user folder.

I've had this happen almost exclusively with Tiger, maybe once with Leopard, 
and NEVER on Snow Leopard.  It looks like you have the brightness turned way up 
and everything is very washed out, just about nothing will fix it that I've 
tried except for what's suggested above.

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Re: G4 MDD and a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get?

2010-10-09 Thread Chance Reecher
I thought the only time graphics cards could "help each other out" was
in SLI and CrossFire configurations? By all means correct me if I'm
wrong.
Chance

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Alex  wrote:
> An ATI Radeon X800XT will get the job done. You might want to get a
> supplemental PCI graphics card to help it out though.
>
> On Oct 9, 5:10 pm, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
>> G4 MDD dual 1.42ghz 176mhz system bus w/fw800 motherboard. and
>> a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get? Is it even possible?
>>
>> Jeff Engle
>> Kamiah Idaho 83536
>
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Re: G4 MDD and a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get?

2010-10-09 Thread Alex
An ATI Radeon X800XT will get the job done. You might want to get a
supplemental PCI graphics card to help it out though.

On Oct 9, 5:10 pm, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
> G4 MDD dual 1.42ghz 176mhz system bus w/fw800 motherboard. and  
> a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get? Is it even possible?
>
> Jeff Engle
> Kamiah Idaho 83536

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G4 MDD and a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get?

2010-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Engle
G4 MDD dual 1.42ghz 176mhz system bus w/fw800 motherboard. and  
a 30" cinema display = what video card do I get? Is it even possible?


Jeff Engle
Kamiah Idaho 83536

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Re: My Quicksilver

2010-10-09 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Re: My Quicksilver
Date:Samstag 09 Oktober 2010N
From:Bruce Johnson 
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com

> On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Al Poulin wrote:
> > On Oct 9, 1:56 am, Stephen Conrad  wrote:
> >> OK, we know the HD is dying and the Ethernet port is flakey
> >> HOWEVER, will any ethernet card I buy at Walmart work in this thing?
> > 
> > I would be more confident with a USB to Ethernet adaptor.  Check the
> > user reviews with various machines:
> > http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB442Z/A
> 
> Poor advice. Any Realtek 8169 based ethernet card will work; Trendnet
> sells a 10/100 ethernet card pretty cheaply that works out of the box.
> 
> 

I used a Realtek 8169 PCI card in my Power Mac G4 AGP 400 MHz and it was very 
much slower than the build-in Ethernet port. I don't know why. Maybe the card 
was faulty? Used to work in a PC before… but wasn't used for a long time. 
Maybe it was broken…

Anyway, yes, any RTL8169 PCI card should do the job. Mine was recognized out-
of-the-box. A very simple plug-and-use installation. I used Mac OS X 10.5 
Leopard (maybe there was my problem… 400 MHz!).

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Quicksilver Graphics Trouble

2010-10-09 Thread Kris Tilford

On Oct 9, 2010, at 3:47 PM, themargate...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

I've got a PowerMac G4 Quicksilver (2001), so I fear the fault is my  
256mb nVidia GeForce

6200 graphics card (PC card that's been flashed) is on it's last legs


Your card has the pins 3 & 11 modification? If not, perhaps that's the  
problem, although I think they normally won't work at all if they're  
not modified? See:



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Quicksilver Graphics Trouble

2010-10-09 Thread themargate...@tiscali.co.uk
I fear I know the answer to this question but just to check if anyone
here had any other idea's.

 I've got a PowerMac G4 Quicksilver (2001) that used to work
beautifully, but had to have it in storage for a few months while I
moved house, went to set it up again today and install a fresh copy of
Leopard on there and noticed a problem, the display is horribly
bright, even when darkened everything on the screen looks like it's
brighter then it should be. Now, I've checked the vga cable and
monitor with a Dreamcast console (Lots of modern tech as you can tell)
and they look great, so I fear the fault is my 256mb nVidia GeForce
6200 graphics card (PC card that's been flashed) is on it's last legs,
I've tried cleaning the contacts on the card, and using compressed air
to clear the AGP slot and I still have this same problem. Is there
anything else that may be going on here, or is it time for me to
invest in a new card for this mac, which is a shame as this one seemed
good for the machine!

Thanks

Sam Walker

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Re: My Quicksilver

2010-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Al Poulin wrote:


On Oct 9, 1:56 am, Stephen Conrad  wrote:

OK, we know the HD is dying and the Ethernet port is flakey
HOWEVER, will any ethernet card I buy at Walmart work in this thing?


I would be more confident with a USB to Ethernet adaptor.  Check the
user reviews with various machines:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB442Z/A


Poor advice. Any Realtek 8169 based ethernet card will work; Trendnet  
sells a 10/100 ethernet card pretty cheaply that works out of the box.




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Re: My Quicksilver

2010-10-09 Thread Al Poulin
On Oct 9, 1:56 am, Stephen Conrad  wrote:
> OK, we know the HD is dying and the Ethernet port is flakey
> HOWEVER, will any ethernet card I buy at Walmart work in this thing?

I would be more confident with a USB to Ethernet adaptor.  Check the
user reviews with various machines:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB442Z/A

> Also, am getting an HD (2 if they are cheap) and was wondering if CCC
> (Carbon Copy Cloner) would be OK to make me a new HD
Yes.

Al Poulin

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