Re: Any tricks for PCI video card in a Beige G3 MT?
I'm an expert on the Beige, which is about as hard as they come for Macs. It has a lot of little quirks and just plain voodoo behavior, but problems with PCI video cards isn't one of them. I'm assuming the card is an ATI card, hopefully a Radeon, but perhaps a Rage? I'm guessing you didn't get the card fully seated in the slot? You could try another slot. One problem specific to the Beige is the problem with the NVRAM/PRAM. There's some capacitor in the power supply that can leak voltage back into the PRAM/NVRAM, so when you zap the PRAM using Cmd-Opt-P-R or reset the NVRAM using Cmd-Opt-O-F and commands set-defaults reset- all, sometimes these don't work, and won't clear the PRAM/NVRAM. The only solution is to Shutdown, open the case, remove the PRAM battery, remove the cable from the power supply to the motherboard, and press the CUDA reset button. I usually wait 5 or more minutes, and press the CUDA again, and then reassemble in reverse order. There can be times that you can get the PRAM/NVRAM screwed up so that a Beige will refuse to boot from almost anything, but if you pull the PRAM battery cable from power supply, and press the CUDA, and then let it sit overnight, and press the CUDA again, I've never had this fail to revive any Beige that won't boot. Whenever you change a CPU or add or remove a PCI card it's a good idea to start over by pressing the CUDA reset button (near the 3rd PCI slot) with the PRAM battery and power supply cable removed. You might not need to wait, but I've not had great success with instant reassembly, and feel that a 5 or 10 minute wait has some value. As for PCI cards, you'll want a Radeon card so you can enable Quartz Extreme using PCI Extreme 3.1, which works in all versions so OS X except for one specific version (10.4.3 I think?), so if you load 10.4.11 you can have full Quartz Extreme support. My Beige has a G4 450 and a Radeon 9100 (Mac 8500) w/10.4.11 and full 768mb RAM. It's nice, but times have moved on, so I rarely boot my Beige any longer, although I did boot it yesterday for a while. If you need specific assistance, I can help off-list. If the PRAM battery is dead, I strongly suggest getting a new one ASAP. The dead PRAM battery could be part of the problem here. After you get the video card working, you might want to disable the onboard video using Open Firmware commands. The instructions can be found on the XPostFacto forums under the Beige category. If your Beige has a Wings AV input/output personality card, this card shares VRAM with the onboard, so it's possible that a poorly seated personality card might effect the video output somehow? The Wings card only works well in OS 9, although there was an OS X driver that didn't work too well. A Beige can be a fun (and hard) project Mac. Best luck! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB stick read only
Yes, that's a good point in this context. Remember what everyone told you about floppies?: Don't carry them in your shirt pocket! Always put them into their sleeve! Fortunately, my stick is not gone yet: I used a standing-around PC laptop to copy the data (3 GB or more, that would have taken ages on the G4, with USB 1.1) reformat the stick and move everything back. Now my G4 is happy to write on it again. But I'll be more careful in the future, i.e. don't rely as much on sticks keeping their data. Maybe I'll start write-protecting it when I only want to read from it -- again kind of like I did with floppies back then: use one for moving files from Mac to PC and another one for moving files from PC to Mac, write-protecting that one before inserting it into the Mac. Is there some way to make the Mac ask permission for writing on a volume when you mount it? I mean like this: I insert a stick or connect a HD and a dialog comes up asking: How to mount volume Backup? with options Readwrite (default) and Read only. Dan wrote: Anecdotal... but I'd venture that many usb sticks go bad because people can't be bothered to (or don't know to) wipe off / clean the contacts or anything. The sticks gets stashed in fairly hostile environments - pockets, purses, etc, collecting crud. Shove 'em into the socket, they short out, gersparken, poof. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How should a family of five share one computer?
set a single user account for all Simple initially but in the long run it could become far more trouble I agree; also you'd want to give each kid their own desktop, picture folder, etc. The extra Admin account for yourself is a good idea, especially as their mom might change the password, then forget it. One other thing you could add is TeamViewer, so you can check the QuickSilver from your home. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OpenOffice vs Oracle
hum. Things are getting messy. An interesting read... http://www.infoworld.com/t/desktop-productivity/openofficeorg-under-oracle-still-viable-746 http://www.mail-archive.com/d...@native-lang.openoffice.org/msg04865.html Anyone using the 3.3 beta builds? Feels like Oracle wanted to play rock-paper-scissors, but has come up lizard. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB stick read only
At 6:01 AM -0800 11/23/2010, Geke wrote: Is there some way to make the Mac ask permission for writing on a volume when you mount it? I mean like this: I insert a stick or connect a HD and a dialog comes up asking: How to mount volume Backup? with options Readwrite (default) and Read only. Messing around with the disk arbitration can be problematic. Start here: http://tinyapps.org/blog/mac/201008170700_mount_disks_read_only_or_disable_automounting.html - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OpenOffice vs Oracle
On 2010/11/23 08:32, Dan so eloquently wrote: hum. Things are getting messy. Corporate America has peed in the pool yet again. Feels like Oracle wanted to play rock-paper-scissors, but has come up lizard. Couldn't have said it better myself. Not sure that I could say it at all without laughing. Thankfully iWork suits my needs just fine, it's not free but then again it's not Office. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD, Webcam, Pix, and Images: why are they soooo different
On 2010/11/16 09:18, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: DVD's are encoded via MPEG2, which is an asymmetric codec: it's significantly less computationally intensive to decode versus encode. (this is how it was developed to be, to allow cheap DVD players. Also why it takes iDVD all night to encode a hour's video to DVD on a G4 with a 1Gig CPU and a gig of ram.) Was Blue Ray designed asymmetrically as well? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OpenOffice vs Oracle
On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Dan wrote: hum. Things are getting messy. Maybe or just another fork in the road. An interesting read... http://www.infoworld.com/t/desktop-productivity/openofficeorg-under-oracle-still-viable-746 http://www.mail-archive.com/d...@native-lang.openoffice.org/msg04865.html Feels like Oracle wanted to play rock-paper-scissors, but has come up lizard. This is largely told from the POV of the open source community; but Oracle is a Big Company whose object is to make money. More philosophically, Open Office is sort of the odd man out in the Oracle acquisition of Sun. MySQL, Java and VirtualBox all have direct applications to their core business (MOST of Oracle is written in Java nowadays; ownership of Java was reasons #1-#1000 that Oracle bought Sun.) MySQL is a replacement for their old Oracle Personal product, and I expect VirtualBox will be leveraged to allow a bunch of improvements to the infrastructure for the various bits of their server and other products. I've used it myself to get an ancient version of Oracle running on modern equipment for some recovery purposes. All this said, this isn't the first time this has happened in the OSS world. This is the Way of Open Source. Feefees get hurt or principles compromised and people go off and fork projects. A lot of developers approach their OSS work as a Holy Mission Untainted By The Base Influence of Filthy Lucre, and that conflicts mightily when a commercial enterprise takes over an OSS project. Some folks working for other companies might well be disallowed from working with Oracle whereas Sun was not a direct competitor. Time will tell. I expect that if OpenOffice is useful or profitable for Oracle, they'll continue to develop and market it. I welcome any competition for Microsoft. It will be the Safe, Bean counter-approved version with per-seat licensing and service contracts and the official stamp of Corporate Approval. LibreOffice will be the choice of the Holy OSS Faithful. Maybe we'll even get some more competition as the forks diverge. Perhaps the LibreOffice folks will even comprehend that the US English localization for the Mac is the same regardless of processor type, and put the PPC port of LibreOffice back on an equal footing with the Intel port. This situation with Open Office 3 being officially released in the PPC Mac version for Afrikaans, Mongolian and Estonian but not English is, frankly, stupid, and makes 'em look like officious morons. Having to go delving into weird nightly build mirrors just to find the PPC installer is user-hostile. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Sawtooth problem
I'd bet OP meant encode and burn. I still love my MDD G4 (so 1.25Ghz) and saw 2 hours encode time per hour of DV. On Nov 21, 3:13 pm, hecowan heco...@islandnet.com wrote: Did you mean burns DVDs in 5 minutes? 5 hours seems a little slow. I put a 22x DVD burner in my Quicksilver, it burns DVDs pretty fast. Figured a dual g4-500 would have made a nice old OSX 10.3 machine for utility work. On Nov 20, 10:31 pm, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 20, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Powermac wrote: I snagged a G4-400 Sawtooth in the hopes of upgrading it to a dual G4-500. Unfortunatly I didn't know you need a Uni-n rev 7 or higher for the setup to work (the machine boots into OS 9.2.2 fine and System profiler shows 2 x 500 CPUs with cache, but OSX installs kernal panic on booting from the OS disk). So what would be my options other then sticking the single G4-400 back into the system? Are sawtooth motherboards with rev 7 chip common and cheap? Will a newer motherboard (GiGE?) fit and work with the old PS? I too snagged a Sawtooth looking to upgrade. Had a Uni-n 5. Damn! Went to OWC and picked up a single Powerlogix 1.6 GHz processor. That was my main machine till the Intel iMac followed me home. Still a strong machine and my backup. Burns DVD's in about 5 hours. I control the Sawtooth, a Gig-E and Digital Audio from the iMac. Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How should a family of five share one computer?
On Nov 22, 10:42 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: And set a firmware password. Tina Setting a firmware password introduces some admin complexity. A Google search shows that people can have problems doing it correctly. Here is Apple's article on how to proceed. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1352 With Time Machine and Parental Controls, it may not be necessary to do this, at least until the kids prove that you must do it. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
