jumper settings on optical drives
Hi Group: When I got my dual 1.2GHz MDD a few months ago, I found it had two optical drives fitted, although only the upper one was functional. Clicking the 'open drive' icon showed one drive: the button always opened the top one and sometimes the lower one would open too. As I had it out of service today to install my newly acquired SCSI card (and that's another story - showed up in Profiler but no OSX drivers available), I decided to replace the non-functioning drive. I removed the drive cage, and then I noticed that both drives were jumpered as 'Master'. Ahah! I thoughtthat's why drive 1 isn't working, so I jumpered it as slave and restarted the machine. And suddenly I had two DVD drives showing when I clicked on the open Drive button.and reacting individually.Great I thought, but drive 1 still wouldn't recognise any optical media I put in it. So pretty obviously borkedpossibly a non-operative laser...the drive is a Sony combo drive dated October 2003 so quite likely to have expired. Having an old DVD ROM that came out of my dead Sawtooth, I decided to try that. Jumpered as 'Slave' I fitted it and tried a reboot. No joy, and I no longer had two drives showing in the drive open button. But I did have another DVD ROM that I had bought BNIB from a thrift shop some months ago. That went in, showed up in System Profiler as a Lite-on DVD SHD - 16P1S rev. GS07, but again was not showing on the button, and I could only open it by pressing the 'open' button on the front of the drive. But when I put a DVD in I got the 'Assign Region Code screen, so that was set to R1, because I have quite a few of those, and since the machine has the 128MB GeForce Ti Graphics card (what a monster: straddles the PRAM battery and runs the length of the machine!) driving a 21 Mac CRT monitor, it's excellent for media (and I have a choice of MacPro speakers or LaCie Firewire speakers so it sounds OK too!). It plays perfectly, and will open by ejecting the disc from the Desktop. I watched my just-bought In the heat of the night (twice: second time with commentary - that's why I like R1 discs!): I then ripped it with Mac the Ripper, and that file plays absolutely perfectly with VLC. This new drive doesn't show in Disk utility either, but the other drive (TSST corp CD/DVDW TS-H552U rev. US06) does and (almost) always has worked fine. I don't know if it's relevant, but I got an unopened copy of iLife 08 last week, and the DVD of that would NOT mount on this machine (tried 3 or 4 times, including after a reboot - sounded like it was spinning up then down again: the iWork trial CD; also brand new, opened fine, as did two different movie DVD's) although this iLife DVDworked perfectly on my G4 iMac So any thoughts as to what may be going on here? I tried resetting PRAM on the off chanceI know clutching at a straw!...obviously no difference, and also tried a safe boot in case it was a cache issue: again zilch! Running 10.5.8 with 2GB memory, and two 160 GB hard drives, one original one new.. I did try drive 0 as slave and 1 as master - no change, also both as cable select - no difference. Is it perhaps a firmware issue, either with the G4 or the non-Apple drives perhaps? Hoping someone here has a solution to this little mystery. Dan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
Once I had a card that put out full 1080p resolution in my PowerMac G4 Quicksilver Single 800mhz. It was a great card but I cannot remember which one it was, I have about 30 cards around here for PC and Mac, so I would have to test them one by one in the PowerMac -Jeremiah From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 1:01:54 AM Subject: Re: Flashing Video Card for G5? On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Oops... I meant the X1900 card. It only works with PCIe G5s though. I still suspect the PCIe X1900 will require flashing unless you get a Mac Edition card, and that card will be really expensive compared to a PC card. As for AGP cards, there are a lot of options available. The GeForce 7800 I posted earlier is the largest and fastest of the AGP cards that can be flashed for PPC Macs AFAIK, but there are many others with less VRAM that are slightly slower, and probably cheaper too. --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: jumper settings on optical drives
The MDD should show both optical drives (mine does); the first and easiest thing I would try is to blow out both drives with a can of compressed gas. Sometimes a little dust gets in and interferes with the laser just enough to mess with you. On Feb 3, 5:48 am, Deiniol ap Deiniol autolycus.mercat...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Group: When I got my dual 1.2GHz MDD a few months ago, I found it had two optical drives fitted, although only the upper one was functional. Clicking the 'open drive' icon showed one drive: the button always opened the top one and sometimes the lower one would open too. As I had it out of service today to install my newly acquired SCSI card (and that's another story - showed up in Profiler but no OSX drivers available), I decided to replace the non-functioning drive. I removed the drive cage, and then I noticed that both drives were jumpered as 'Master'. Ahah! I thoughtthat's why drive 1 isn't working, so I jumpered it as slave and restarted the machine. And suddenly I had two DVD drives showing when I clicked on the open Drive button.and reacting individually.Great I thought, but drive 1 still wouldn't recognise any optical media I put in it. So pretty obviously borkedpossibly a non-operative laser...the drive is a Sony combo drive dated October 2003 so quite likely to have expired. Having an old DVD ROM that came out of my dead Sawtooth, I decided to try that. Jumpered as 'Slave' I fitted it and tried a reboot. No joy, and I no longer had two drives showing in the drive open button. But I did have another DVD ROM that I had bought BNIB from a thrift shop some months ago. That went in, showed up in System Profiler as a Lite-on DVD SHD - 16P1S rev. GS07, but again was not showing on the button, and I could only open it by pressing the 'open' button on the front of the drive. But when I put a DVD in I got the 'Assign Region Code screen, so that was set to R1, because I have quite a few of those, and since the machine has the 128MB GeForce Ti Graphics card (what a monster: straddles the PRAM battery and runs the length of the machine!) driving a 21 Mac CRT monitor, it's excellent for media (and I have a choice of MacPro speakers or LaCie Firewire speakers so it sounds OK too!). It plays perfectly, and will open by ejecting the disc from the Desktop. I watched my just-bought In the heat of the night (twice: second time with commentary - that's why I like R1 discs!): I then ripped it with Mac the Ripper, and that file plays absolutely perfectly with VLC. This new drive doesn't show in Disk utility either, but the other drive (TSST corp CD/DVDW TS-H552U rev. US06) does and (almost) always has worked fine. I don't know if it's relevant, but I got an unopened copy of iLife 08 last week, and the DVD of that would NOT mount on this machine (tried 3 or 4 times, including after a reboot - sounded like it was spinning up then down again: the iWork trial CD; also brand new, opened fine, as did two different movie DVD's) although this iLife DVD worked perfectly on my G4 iMac So any thoughts as to what may be going on here? I tried resetting PRAM on the off chanceI know clutching at a straw!...obviously no difference, and also tried a safe boot in case it was a cache issue: again zilch! Running 10.5.8 with 2GB memory, and two 160 GB hard drives, one original one new.. I did try drive 0 as slave and 1 as master - no change, also both as cable select - no difference. Is it perhaps a firmware issue, either with the G4 or the non-Apple drives perhaps? Hoping someone here has a solution to this little mystery. Dan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Mama Haymes wrote: I kind of thought of changing the battery before you mentioned it, but I will now try the other part you suggested. Currently I get no chimes at all. Once I push the start on the front, it starts, and monitor blinks every 7 seconds along with the CPU. This sounds like a miss seated, miss-matched or incorrectly placed RAM problem to me. The G5 PowerMacs are real touchy when it comes to RAM issues. Be sure the slots are clean and the RAM pins are clean, some times I have to reseat a couple of times to get it right. BTJM JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From Wally G4 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
Most GPUs can display 1920x1080. I have an ATI Rage 128 with 16 MB of memory that could display 1920x1080. On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:48 AM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: Once I had a card that put out full 1080p resolution in my PowerMac G4 Quicksilver Single 800mhz. It was a great card but I cannot remember which one it was, I have about 30 cards around here for PC and Mac, so I would have to test them one by one in the PowerMac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: jumper settings on optical drives
I did try drive 0 as slave and 1 as master - no change, also both as cable select - no difference. Is it perhaps a firmware issue, either with the G4 or the non-Apple drives perhaps? Early optical drives installed by Apple preferred Master, even though the optical cable is indeed of the Cable Select type. These drives would not work as Slave, just as the early Zips installed by Apple preferred Master, too, which is why the early Beige G3s had SCSI Zips, if the Zip option was chosen by the customer. Or, Apple ordered special versions of Zips which WOULD work as Slaves, until Iomega finally fixed their flawed drives. Today, drives are a commodity, and there is very little difference between them ... all are dual-layer burners and all will work properly as Master, Slave or Cable Select, as is required by the customer, and at the customer's sole option. The optical (and HD) bus cable is Cable Select for the simple reason that the firmware is using H-P's patented method of detecting the presence of a drive, detecting the drive's performance characteristics, and programming the host bus adapter appropriately. However, after POST, the machine does not use Cable Select, it uses Master and Slave. Interested readers can consult US Pat 6,523,071 for the details, which teaches how a specific drive can be placed into a reset state, interrogated, and the host bus adapter (the Mac itself, in this case) can be programmed to best handle the drive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
On Feb 2, 8:15 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: How do you flash video cards for Mac? I have a beautiful Dual G5 and the original 64MB card isn't doing it justice. Any links to a good tutorial site or video? or even a list of instructions with your method? Thanks! The best possible video card for an AGP PowerMac AFAIK is the nVidia GeForce 7800 512MB with 5.70 BIOS, and then you'll have to flash it to Mac. They're expensive, around $100 I think? Here's a flash guide:http://themacelite.wikidot.com/nvidia-geforce-7800 What ever happend to the The Mac Elite Forums? There was a link there, either in the FAQ and Wiki or in the Strange Dogs archive, in one of the posts to a wonderful page listing all (?) of the various GPUs down through the years and their various characteristics and relative performance (or at least, bandwidth). I never bookmarked the page, because I was always able to get to it through that link in the forums. Sigh. I've googled up other pages of GPU lists, but they're neither as good nor as comprehensive. The one I found there doesn't seem to come up easily in a Google search. BTW, is the ATI X800 not as good as the nVidia 7800? Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 BW IDE bus speeds (and overall performance)
Hello again! ### # Specs: # Apple Power Mac G3 Blue White (Codename “Yosemite”) #PowerMac1,1 #Rev.1 system board (faulty CMD646 IDE chip!) # 350 MHz G3 (PowerPC 750) # 1.0 GB of PC100 SDRAM # 32GB CF drive as main boot drive (using a CF-to-IDE adapter) # ATi Radeon 9200 PCI graphics card with 128 MB VRAM # USB 2.0 PCI expansion card #http://lowendmac.com/ppc/blue-white-power-mac-g3.html #http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/stats/powermac_g3_350_bl.html # Mac OS X 10.4.11 # Mac OS 9.2.2 as Classic Environment ### I've just run Xbench on my G3BW at work, and found it to be terribly slow compared to other G3 BW's with 350 MHz. Here the result: http://db.xbench.com/merge.xhtml?doc1=502694 My Xbench score: 2.70 Normal G3 BW 350 score: 7 - 12 THE drawback is of course the CF card as the main hard drive. It slows down the whole system and is the most responsible factor for this bad Xbench result. I've then read in this article: http://lowendmac.com/musings/mm07/0912.html that the second IDE bus, that is normally used for the optical drive, is even faster and better than the first IDE bus. Quote: “The BW has it all over the beige: The system bus is twice as fast (UltraATA), as is the hard drive controller - and the optical drive controller is even faster (UltraATA 66).” Is this really true? Or is it merely a misunderstanding, and the bus is just faster compared to the beige G3? I understand, that the primary IDE bus (faulty CMD646 chip) was UltraATA=ATA-4=33MB/s secondary IDE bus was UltraATA/66=ATA-5=66MB/s Why on earth was the primary IDE bus slower than the second one, which is “only” for the optical drive and the option ZIP drive? And then, wouldn't it be much better to put the hard disk drive as IDE Master and the optical drive as IDE Slave on the second IDE bus? In my case the CF card wouldn't make much difference at a faster bus anyway, but the question is just as a general thought… On Rev.1 (Rev.A) BW G3's one would additionally benefit from working around the primary IDE chip data corruption bug… Ah, now I know! Does the second bus even support booting? I'm asking because I'm at this point considering to re-fit my G3BW with a real spinning disk aka HDD for the sole purpose of speeding things up again. I liked the experiment with the CF card, but I'd have to get a faster CF card and considering the prices right now I'd be better off with a used HDD (that I have laying around here, but I'd have to backup the data first). Suggestions, thoughts, comments welcome! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 BWÂ IDEÂ bus speeds (and overall performance)
The BW G3 doesn't support drives over 128 GB on its main drive bus, but the UltraATA 66 bus used by the optical drives supports so-called Big Drives - and it's twice as fast. The HD bus is Ultra/33 (33 MB/s). The Optical bus is DMA (16.67 MB/s). Both buses can support large drives using the usual suspect techniques. The LBA48 property patch is perhaps more appropriate for later (say, Graphite) Macs, both of which buses are Ultra (although at different maximum rates). The High Cap kext perhaps works best where the buses are different, which is the BW case. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 BWÂ IDEÂ bus speeds (and overall performance)
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G3 BWÂ IDEÂ bus speeds (and overall performance) Date:Thursday, 03. February 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The BW G3 doesn't support drives over 128 GB on its main drive bus, but the UltraATA 66 bus used by the optical drives supports so-called Big Drives - and it's twice as fast. The HD bus is Ultra/33 (33 MB/s). The Optical bus is DMA (16.67 MB/s). Then the quoted article is wrong? Both buses can support large drives using the usual suspect techniques. The LBA48 property patch is perhaps more appropriate for later (say, Graphite) Macs, both of which buses are Ultra (although at different maximum rates). The High Cap kext perhaps works best where the buses are different, which is the BW case. I always thought the LBA48 property hack only works with the KeyLargo IDE chip, not with the CMD646 chip nor with the second IDE bus (whatever that chips name is). Are you certain about the G3 BW *Rev.1* to support large drives with the property patch or the High Cap driver? Anyway, about the bus speeds: I found the answer already: http://lowendmac.com/ppc/blue-white-power-mac-g3.html Quote: “A common suggestion in the old days was to put the hard drive on the 16.7 MBps ATA-3 bus used by the optical drive, but the Rev. 1 motherboard doesn't support booting from hard drives on that bus.” IMO that says it all. Thanks anyway. Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MDD problem
Hi, Yesterday I came back home after 3 months abroad and started up my MDD, it booted fine and I did some work and then played music from the harddisk. Suddenly the music playback got stuck and the Mac froze. I switched it off holding down the power button. When I started it again I got the screen that tells you to restart in many languages (a stupid thing - when you restart after seeing this screen the mac never restarts, all you get is that same sceen again over and over). But this time I didn't even get the restart screen again but only a bong and then nothing, both my monitors stayed dark. I couldn't even reset the PRAM, no second bong. Starting with the Alt button didn't work either. After reading some old posts about the PRAM-battery issues I bought a new battery today but still the same. I tried reseating the 3 RAM-sticks, 2 512 and one 1024 MB, still no go. What more can I try to get my Mac to work again? I am running mostly Tiger and sometimes Panther if I want to use older Adobe apps. Would this be a bad power supply? I live in a relatively cool climate, the Netherlands, the fan of my MDD 1.25 GHz (last model with FW 400) only speeds up sometimes when it's very hot in the summer. Thanks for your comments. Best regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mac Pro Memory
Since the Mac Pro Mac Intel lists seem to be all but dead I'll ask this here. Apparently the current Mac Pro use 3 channel memory, which if I understand correctly means that you'll get better performance on a SP with 3 identical sticks of RAM than you would with 4, and with 6 instead of 8 on a DP. Is this correct? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:40 PM, yawg wrote: But this time I didn't even get the restart screen again but only a bong and then nothing, both my monitors stayed dark. The fact that you got a bong or chime was good. Did you try Safe boot holding the Shift key? I couldn't even reset the PRAM, no second bong. Might be a keyboard issue? Something could have happened the the keyboard when you were gone? I tried reseating the 3 RAM-sticks, 2 512 and one 1024 MB, still no go. If you get stuck, remove RAM to only one stick at a time. I don't think it's likely this is a power supply problem. You might try booting a install CD/DVD and running Disk Utility on the HD. You also might consider reinstalling the latest Combo Update if you have further problems. For certain do a Safe Boot holding the shift key because this will trash problematic cache files and get you a relatively clean start. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower
A couple of things have popped up. I have the radeon 9600 card, it starts up when I press the power button in front, the fans turn on, but I get no video display. No startup chime whereas it had been starting up with the chime yesterday. I installed 10.4 yesterday on the new harddrive. On a whim, I attached a firewire drive with 10.4 loaded on it to the firewire port, then the computer display lit up normally. There was no startup chime, though. However, the incorrect time and date advisory came up. I suppose the pram battery is shot. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Pro Memory
This is what I've read as well. So when I got it, I upgraded to 12GB, (3 x 4G sticks) and left the one slot empty. On Feb 3, 4:50 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: Since the Mac Pro Mac Intel lists seem to be all but dead I'll ask this here. Apparently the current Mac Pro use 3 channel memory, which if I understand correctly means that you'll get better performance on a SP with 3 identical sticks of RAM than you would with 4, and with 6 instead of 8 on a DP. Is this correct? Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
The red line on the board is on, after you start? Do not stay open too much machine as cover open you may burned out CPU (i had once). If you need open cover workout you need put a 12 inch fan above cooler that emits air and put out (while only cover is open it works out when close you need fan opposite) if you look all things and found no error... check the cpu... i just got the same... cooling paste became aged and or other stuff. screw out cooler... and look white stribes arround cores. if any brownish or dark means burned out cpu... Other thing you may look... cables... and battery... you must look out cables... take off battery and wait 10 min and put back and PRAM reset... one stick ram... one hd. and no cd/dvd cabled. if those not work... look brownish white stribe arround core... if all things are good. it is nearly certain POWER. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:40 PM, yawg yaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yesterday I came back home after 3 months abroad and started up my MDD, it booted fine and I did some work and then played music from the harddisk. Suddenly the music playback got stuck and the Mac froze. I switched it off holding down the power button. When I started it again I got the screen that tells you to restart in many languages (a stupid thing - when you restart after seeing this screen the mac never restarts, all you get is that same sceen again over and over). But this time I didn't even get the restart screen again but only a bong and then nothing, both my monitors stayed dark. I couldn't even reset the PRAM, no second bong. Starting with the Alt button didn't work either. After reading some old posts about the PRAM-battery issues I bought a new battery today but still the same. I tried reseating the 3 RAM-sticks, 2 512 and one 1024 MB, still no go. What more can I try to get my Mac to work again? I am running mostly Tiger and sometimes Panther if I want to use older Adobe apps. Would this be a bad power supply? I live in a relatively cool climate, the Netherlands, the fan of my MDD 1.25 GHz (last model with FW 400) only speeds up sometimes when it's very hot in the summer. Thanks for your comments. Best regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com 0544 585 9102 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
If any one has any knowledge about this. According to HP I need to ping my HP Laserjet's Jet direct card with the Powerbook (OSX10.5.8). Any one familiar with how to do this. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
On 2011/02/03 18:49, Clmtyne so eloquently wrote: If any one has any knowledge about this. According to HP I need to ping my HP Laserjet's Jet direct card with the Powerbook (OSX10.5.8). Any one familiar with how to do this. First find out the IP address of the printer, then go to Applications/Utilities/Network Utility. Launch Network Utility and you will see a Ping tab at the top. Click the Ping tab, enter the IP address of the printer and click Ping. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
On 2/3/2011 7:49 PM, Clmtyne wrote: If any one has any knowledge about this. According to HP I need to ping my HP Laserjet's Jet direct card with the Powerbook (OSX10.5.8). Any one familiar with how to do this. If you know the IP address of the printer you can open a terminal window and type ping and the address, or you vcan type ping and the name of the printer -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
This is the information that I received- Printer and mac still not working. One reason I guess is I changed the Jetdirect Card, and the old IP Address is showing in the system, even though I've manually typed in the new IP Address. Here's what it gave me. Ping has started ... PING 152.2.78.207 (152.2.78.207): 56 data bytes --- 152.2.78.207 ping statistics --- 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8) To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 9:15 PM On 2011/02/03 18:49, Clmtyne so eloquently wrote: If any one has any knowledge about this. According to HP I need to ping my HP Laserjet's Jet direct card with the Powerbook (OSX10.5.8). Any one familiar with how to do this. First find out the IP address of the printer, then go to Applications/Utilities/Network Utility. Launch Network Utility and you will see a Ping tab at the top. Click the Ping tab, enter the IP address of the printer and click Ping. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
On 2011/02/03 19:20, Dennis Myhand so eloquently wrote: If you know the IP address of the printer you can open a terminal window and type ping and the address That's handy, but is there a way to stop it short of closing the window? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
On 2011/02/03 20:22, Mama Haymes so eloquently wrote: 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss You have no connection to the printer, or the printer is not responding. Somehow you need to correct the address or get the printer to respond, sorry I can't be more help than that. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/02/03 20:22, Mama Haymes so eloquently wrote: 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss You have no connection to the printer, or the printer is not responding. Somehow you need to correct the address or get the printer to respond, sorry I can't be more help than that. Tina Hi There, Please use the following link to download a user manual hopefully it will tell you how to manually configure the IP address of the Jetdirect card that you install into the printer. http://tinyurl.com/4l9dano Once you have set the IP address and a few other items manually you can ping the printer again at the newly assigned IP address and hopefully you see the packets not being 100 5 lost. I had to do this same thing many years ago when I install a used jetdirect card into my laserjet 4000. Hope this helps you out. Regards, Dark_Mac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
On 2/3/2011 9:43 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/02/03 19:20, Dennis Myhand so eloquently wrote: If you know the IP address of the printer you can open a terminal window and type ping and the address That's handy, but is there a way to stop it short of closing the window? Tina ctrl and c at the same time -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need to Ping HP laserjet 8000dn on Jetdirect Network with Mac Powerbook (OSX 10.5.8)
On 2011/02/03 22:04, Dennis Myhand so eloquently wrote: On 2/3/2011 9:43 PM, Tina K. wrote: That's handy, but is there a way to stop it short of closing the window? Tina ctrl and c at the same time Thank you! Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
